Micro 654: Great Idea Mafia - Game over!

[Ircher]

/confirm

My

role sucks, but maybe it'll

deter

scum.

[Ircher]

VOTE: Ircher

[Ircher]

That would be fun!

[Ircher]

So, what we waiting for? Let's play!

[Ircher]

Okay!

VOTE: Ircher

Too eager.

But I'm always eager!

[Ircher]

VOTE: McMenno
Confirmed Meme Troll

[Ircher]

VOTE: Karnos

[Ircher]

This game is starting off slow.

Would you like to play a game?

I'm thinking of a number between 1 and a googol. If you correctly guess the number, I'll reveal my role. If you incorrectly guess my number, I'll have you lynched. If you refuse to play the game, I'll target you with my night power, assuming I have one.

ill play

[Ircher]

VOTE: Ari

[Ircher]

VOTE: Ari

[Ircher]

Ari aint no jester.

[Ircher]

VOTE: Charloux

Vedith's obvscum lynch target.

[Ircher]

Yeah, he could've.

You can be the target of a lyncher and be scum at the same time; why cant you?

[Ircher]

Yes. You said that scum could be the target of a lyncher. I'm calling you out on such a logical fallancy.

[Ircher]

Wait a second.................................

This game is either 1) multiball 2) Strongman or 3) Roleblocker (and Variants)

Pedit: This is Great Idea. Besides, lynchers get targets defined by the mod generally anyway.

[Ircher]

VOTE: Aero

[Ircher]

McMenno, please join the wagon!

[Ircher]

Lol, don't be rude; mistakes happen!

Karnos, join the Aero wagon!

[Ircher]

Going ahead & claiming Mason Doctor (with no mason partner).

I unfortunately think I deleted my pms concerning night actions .

[Ircher]

Wait, I found them:

N1 --> Protected Vedith
N2 --> Protected Suzune
N3 --> Protected Suzune

VOTE: Karnos

[Ircher]

Popcorning McMenno for mass-claim; we might as well.

[Ircher]

If Karnos doesn't answer, we can lynch him for the win.

[Ircher]

Interesting.....

There was an unaccounted roleblock/redirect/strongman kill N1.

[Ircher]

Wait, Karnos prob. doesn't have a partner that he's in love with....

Suzune can claim now.

[Ircher]

unvote mcmenno; suz needs to claim.

[Ircher]

WHERE IS SUZUNE???

[Ircher]

There's 4 of us, right?

If we no lynch, I'm the oonne getting night-killed.

[Ircher]

What's the possibility scum no killed?

I'm not sure who to lynch rn.....

UNVOTE:

[Ircher]

hi I confirm

and I'm gravedigger so trackers will track me to nightkilll targets and watchers will see me at nightkill targets

VOTE: Aristophanes

Can scum get this role in Great Idea?

[Ircher]

So no roleblocker....

What about doctor variants? I'm not CPR so something else?

Pedit: He claimed lover without lover partner.

[Ircher]

Nevermind. I realized there can be only 1 scum left, and the game is over if we don't lynch scum. i'm a town lover. I have no idea who the other lover is, but if you lynch me they die too.

Mcmenno is scum, his claim is an obvious scum role cover claim.

[Ircher]

So, no false variants which means I was redirected or roleblocked N1. That or scum strongmanned Vedith.

[Ircher]

Refresh me though... How does great idea work?

Is Mason-Doctor in the list cuz I kinda find my role strange.

[Ircher]

Ah, ok.

So, do you think scum no-killed last night?

[Ircher]

We could no lynch. And I already softed.

Which is another weird thing -- If there is a strongman/roleblocker, why did my protect fail N1 yet was successful N3? Unless scum are being super clue-less, my soft was pretty note-worthy.

[Ircher]

Welp, Suzune feels very town + we're talking night actions.

Scum must have a RBer actually --> And I more than like saved Suzune, so we might as well treat Suzune as 99% Confirmed Town.

That leaves a Town Lover with no lover partner claim (Karnos) and a Gravedigger claim (McMenno).

...Argue your cases against the other...

[Ircher]

Wait, scum can RB amd kill in the same night..... Weird....

[Ircher]

Alien Prober (targets one player; target is roleblocked and Prober gets investigation result of "Werewolf" or "Not werewolf")

Argh... This is a possibility too making Suzune possible scum.... But we havent had 2 kills in a night have we?

[Ircher]

I have strong reason to believe that Gamma got a guilty on Charloux and was killed N2 due to suspicions. Not solid, but seems highly plausible.

[Ircher]

McMenno, get in here and tell me who you think is scum and why.

[Ircher]

I think I can rule out the Alien possibility since there was still a kill N2... Now, who would make a N2 kill on Gamma?

[Ircher]

VOTE: McMenno

Why did Karnos make this vote despite the Aero wagon?

[Ircher]

Really leaning Karnos rn... Also feel like Karnos is avoiding this thread... But not sure at alll....

[Ircher]

The final scum may be Werewolf which points at McMenno.

It's plausible --> Perhaps both scumteams targeted Vedith N1 which means my protect was irrelevent.

[Ircher]

So yeah, my protect was definitely received N1 (had to double-check that) so one of three probabilities for N1:

1) I got roleblocked (Most likely).
2) Vedith was strongmanned (Unlikely - Strongman is multishot and kill didnt occur last night; no 1-shot strongman as far as I can tell either)
3) Multiball (Both scum targeted Vedith)

Option 4 is a Vig shot, but I find it even more unlikely since we lynched a vig D1.

Option 3 strongly suggests McMenno, but it is unlikely from a prob. standpoint...

[Ircher]

Someone is obviously lying or the game is multiball.

McMenno couldn't've roleblocked me cuz he made his claim in his 1st post. That means his claim isn't a lie, but that doesn't make it impossible to be scum -- There is a Werewolf Gravedigger.

Karnos claimed lover without a partner & stayed off the D3 Aero wagon for some odd reason to vote McMenno.

Suzune claimed Tentacled Townie, and while I tried to see if Alien was a possibility, it seems highly unprobable due to the N2 kill.

Still, what if Karnos is a Roleblocker and lied about his role? But that makes little sense because I had already stated that my protect in some way was blocked or nullified N1 cuz Vedith got killed N1. Not claiming roleblocker, even as a scum roleblocker, makes little sense to me.

[Ircher]

Seriously I'm not. I'm town. If I reveal my role scum wins, so not going to happen. Lynch me and scum wins. Scum nightkills me and scum wins. I said too much already, but if you don't lynch me today and someone can protect me at night, we have a chance.

This makes sense from Karnos if he's a lover he misunderstood how the setup works.

A town lover Karnos could've assumed he had a random partner he did not know about. And, if he or his partner was lynched, then that would pos. mean gameover for town.

Sorry McMenno, but the evidence points strongly towards you right now, all things considered.

[Ircher]

VOTE: charloux

this has been settled then

Votecount 2.1

Charloux (4) - Ircher, Gamma Emerald, Aeronaut, McMenno

Not voting (7) - karnos, Charloux, Suzune

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch someone.

(expired on 2016-11-08 19:18:00) remain until day end

Hrm... Would scum!McMenno bus his partner like this and hammer them despite so little evidence?

[Ircher]

I wouldnm't put it past McMenno to do such esp. since the lynch was pretty much inevitable.

Bus early and strong versus late and weakly.

VOTE: McMenno

Suzune, get here & hammer

[Ircher]

Mod topic: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p8436002
Dead chat: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p8448137
Mafia chat: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p8436069
Werewolf chat: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p8436079

The game itself was basically a clownfest. No real scumhunting until the little flurry at the end of the last day. I hope you all still had fun anyway, it was fun to watch.

Yep, basically!

I worked it out at the end though with the mass-claim despite the little amount of post info was left.

Also, your final VC is flip-flopped from what it should be!

Thanks for modding!

[Ircher]

McMenno for future reference if you had made literally any other claim I feel like you would have won

Possibly, but the deciding factor for me was what happened N1 in relation to the claims in the mass-claim. He might have been able to get away with a RBer claim with a N1 roleblock on me though.