STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

Creature · Post Post #9175 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:13 am

If farside22 flips scum, it's very likely the other scum are the ones not in the top wagons (aka grapes and kraska would also be town).

Creature · Post Post #9176 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:15 am

So last scum would be between Shiro/randomidget/TheFuzzylogic99/TheWayItEnds/MagnaofIllusion/Shadow_step

Creature · Post Post #9177 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:17 am

We need to clear one of these if we want to auto-win (assuming the NKP is always 1).

Creature · Post Post #9178 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:19 am

After farside22 and TWIE are gone, I want to start with who's being useless (Shiro, randomidget, MagnaofIllusion).

Randomnamechange · Post Post #9179 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:23 am

Gem Crystals are all town guys.
I think we need to lynch Farside at this point. She is too much of a liability to town.
I'm not allied.
VOTE: Farside
(test)

Creature wrote:So last scum would be between Shiro/randomidget/TheFuzzylogic99/TheWayItEnds/MagnaofIllusion/Shadow_step

I agree with this analysis. My top choice out of these would be MoI. I have a pretty strong event in the bag btw

grapes · Post Post #9180 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:26 am

Yea I'm not gonna believe that they're all town at face value that's how you lose games.

What's their wincon?

Massclaim doesn't sound like a bad idea but thoughts are appreciated.

Town is and has been at an info disadvantage for way too long it needs to stop. I can almost tell who the other earth are just because they're as lost/apathetic as I've been.

This is no good brochachos.

Creature · Post Post #9181 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:26 am

Hey random, let's ally.

Creature · Post Post #9182 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:27 am

We don't need to massclaim yet as we have two scum to lynch.

TheFuzzylogic99 · Post Post #9183 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:28 am

In post 9179, Randomnamechange wrote:Gem Crystals are all town guys.
I think we need to lynch Farside at this point. She is too much of a liability to town.
I'm not allied.
VOTE: Farside
(test)
Creature wrote:So last scum would be between Shiro/randomidget/TheFuzzylogic99/TheWayItEnds/MagnaofIllusion/Shadow_step
I agree with this analysis. My top choice out of these would be MoI. I have a pretty strong event in the bag btw

not true...Kfkyu flipped 3rd party........ I think atleast there is atleast 1 more 3rd party left over

grapes · Post Post #9184 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:28 am

Well then I'd at least like to know all public info and claims.

Time to start solving this shit.

How do you know there's 2 scum left?

TheFuzzylogic99 · Post Post #9185 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:31 am

If Far is 3rd party it doesn't hurt scum to lynch her...as she could just as easily use her ability to lynch scum ( even if by accident )

I have no idea where to go from here

TheFuzzylogic99 · Post Post #9186 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:32 am

Right now Far seems dangerous to both the town and the scum.

Creature · Post Post #9187 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:34 am

Taking a look at the first Steven Universe, there should not have more than 6 scum in total).

Creature · Post Post #9188 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:36 am

I believe there are two Crystal Gems alive, farside22 could be one, MoI could be the other.

grapes · Post Post #9189 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:38 am

Okay so we can't even lynch today because what the fuck let's all pile on snarky.
Thought after the skybird flip he looked more town. Which is why I voted kraska for the lynch thing.

Shadow_Step - meh
Almost50 - wouldn't lynch today
Shiro - meh
Farside22 - good lynch
Reasonably Rational - wouldn't lynch today
mastin2 - wouldn't lynch today
Kraskaeaque - good lynch
MagnaofIllusion - meh
TheFuzzylogic99 - wouldn't lynch today
Creature - wouldn't lynch today
randomidget - meh
TheWayItEnds - good lynch

Just completely off the top of the dome. I know twie looks pretty bad especially since he didn't vig I mean he might've been blocked but really it's getting more and more convenient.

Reasonably Rational · Post Post #9190 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:40 am

In post 9179, Randomnamechange wrote:Gem Crystals are all town guys.
I think we need to lynch Farside at this point. She is too much of a liability to town.
I'm not allied.
VOTE: Farside
(test)
Creature wrote:So last scum would be between Shiro/randomidget/TheFuzzylogic99/TheWayItEnds/MagnaofIllusion/Shadow_step
I agree with this analysis. My top choice out of these would be MoI. I have a pretty strong event in the bag btw

why didn't you ally with us last night.

Also, it looks like we won't have enough votes for a lynch unless the event is ended. Let's get everyone's claim and test done, and then I guess we have to end it.

-Cerb

Reasonably Rational · Post Post #9191 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:51 am

In post 9179, Randomnamechange wrote:Gem Crystals are all town guys.
I think we need to lynch Farside at this point. She is too much of a liability to town.

No they're not town. They are a self aligned third party faction. Furthermore, Yume told us one win condition and Titus a different one. At this point, it's not safe to assume they're benevolent and the best case scenario would be that they have a wincon that doesn't mean town loses. Even then, we have to have one of us survive to win, so it's clear the gems can (and will, I'm quite sure, if they have the chance) win alone.

~Drixx

farside22 · Post Post #9192 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:04 am

In post 9114, Shiro wrote:
In post 9112, farside22 wrote:I thought he was scum and I was tired of the argument going on.
Anyways. First things first, who targeted me last night and why?
Second who is in an alliance?
BS, if you thought he was scum you would know he wouldn't get lynched. Only town was hated.

How do you know I didn't have 5 votes to add?

See that means you believe or paid attention to my claim.

Anyways add 4 and he's scum the argument ends.
You get that somewhere.

He wasn't, I was wrong, we can still win but some scum apparently don't want to organize things first here.

Randomnamechange · Post Post #9193 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:06 am

In post 9181, Creature wrote:Hey random, let's ally.

Sure

In post 9183, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:
In post 9179, Randomnamechange wrote:Gem Crystals are all town guys.
I think we need to lynch Farside at this point. She is too much of a liability to town.
I'm not allied.
VOTE: Farside
(test)
Creature wrote:So last scum would be between Shiro/randomidget/TheFuzzylogic99/TheWayItEnds/MagnaofIllusion/Shadow_step
I agree with this analysis. My top choice out of these would be MoI. I have a pretty strong event in the bag btw
not true...Kfkyu flipped 3rd party........ I think atleast there is atleast 1 more 3rd party left over

Third party aligned with town.

farside22 · Post Post #9194 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:07 am

In post 9125, Reasonably Rational wrote:Also, I think everyone who stated they can't vote should place a vote somewhere to prove that's the case, before kraska ends the event.

VOTE: Farside22

And once he does end the event, NOBODY VOTE UNLESS IT'S ON FARSIDE, since we know she can place at least 5 votes, so right now everyone is at l-2.

-Cerb

This doesn't happen unless votes can't be reached.
Don't listen to the player who isn't trying to find scum.

Here is my thought.
If we can get enough votes without getting rid of the event, scum can't do actions or kill, everyone else can.

That means everyone should use there ability and those that can get info about others can clear players that make them confirmed.

Reasonably Rational · Post Post #9195 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:10 am

In post 9194, farside22 wrote:
In post 9125, Reasonably Rational wrote:Also, I think everyone who stated they can't vote should place a vote somewhere to prove that's the case, before kraska ends the event.

VOTE: Farside22

And once he does end the event, NOBODY VOTE UNLESS IT'S ON FARSIDE, since we know she can place at least 5 votes, so right now everyone is at l-2.

-Cerb
This doesn't happen unless votes can't be reached.
Don't listen to the player who isn't trying to find scum.

Here is my thought.
If we can get enough votes without getting rid of the event, scum can't do actions or kill, everyone else can.

That means everyone should use there ability and those that can get info about others can clear players that make them confirmed.

...

Because scum would have caused an event that would keep them from submitting kills, instead of just making sure they had alliances in place? That, by the say, is shy I want everyone who CLAIMS they can't vote to place a vote, so no alliances arranged between scum and kept secret can exist.

-Cerb

Reasonably Rational · Post Post #9196 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:12 am

In post 9194, farside22 wrote:
In post 9125, Reasonably Rational wrote:Also, I think everyone who stated they can't vote should place a vote somewhere to prove that's the case, before kraska ends the event.

VOTE: Farside22

And once he does end the event, NOBODY VOTE UNLESS IT'S ON FARSIDE, since we know she can place at least 5 votes, so right now everyone is at l-2.

-Cerb
This doesn't happen unless votes can't be reached.
Don't listen to the player who isn't trying to find scum.

Here is my thought.
If we can get enough votes without getting rid of the event, scum can't do actions or kill, everyone else can.

That means everyone should use there ability and those that can get info about others can clear players that make them confirmed.

Translation:

"If I can just snooker these idiots into letting me live another day, I get to trade for even more town!"

~Drixx

Reasonably Rational · Post Post #9197 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:14 am

In post 9192, farside22 wrote:
In post 9114, Shiro wrote:
In post 9112, farside22 wrote:I thought he was scum and I was tired of the argument going on.
Anyways. First things first, who targeted me last night and why?
Second who is in an alliance?
BS, if you thought he was scum you would know he wouldn't get lynched. Only town was hated.
How do you know I didn't have 5 votes to add?

See that means you believe or paid attention to my claim.

Anyways add 4 and he's scum the argument ends.
You get that somewhere.

He wasn't, I was wrong, we can still win but some scum apparently don't want to organize things first here.

This is also bullshit. Nobody is saying you didn't have 5 votes to place.

We're saying your previous vote would have been removed, based on all my experiences with literally every other varsoon game since I started playing on this site.

This means adding 5 votes to his 4 was REALLY only adding 4 votes, because your previous vote was removed.

8 total votes only lynched town.

Therefore, you either don't know how your own ability works, OR you knew he was going to flip town and only used enough points to lynch him.

Let's just ask the moderator.

@Varsoon: when someone places a new named vote using a different voting mechanic, if that mechanic doesn't specify that previous named votes remain in place, what happens to their previously placed votes?

Reasonably Rational · Post Post #9198 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:15 am

In post 9197, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 9192, farside22 wrote:
In post 9114, Shiro wrote:
In post 9112, farside22 wrote:I thought he was scum and I was tired of the argument going on.
Anyways. First things first, who targeted me last night and why?
Second who is in an alliance?
BS, if you thought he was scum you would know he wouldn't get lynched. Only town was hated.
How do you know I didn't have 5 votes to add?

See that means you believe or paid attention to my claim.

Anyways add 4 and he's scum the argument ends.
You get that somewhere.

He wasn't, I was wrong, we can still win but some scum apparently don't want to organize things first here.
This is also bullshit. Nobody is saying you didn't have 5 votes to place.

We're saying your previous vote would have been removed, based on all my experiences with literally every other varsoon game since I started playing on this site.

This means adding 5 votes to his 4 was REALLY only adding 4 votes, because your previous vote was removed.

8 total votes only lynched town.

Therefore, you either don't know how your own ability works, OR you knew he was going to flip town and only used enough points to lynch him.

Let's just ask the moderator.

@Varsoon: when someone places a new named vote using a different voting mechanic, if that mechanic doesn't specify that previous named votes remain in place, what happens to their previously placed votes?

-Cerb, btw, sorry

Reasonably Rational · Post Post #9199 (ISO) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:17 am

I do agree though that unless we're 100% positive the lynch today will be on scum, the event should be left active if it's possible to attain a lynch while it's in effect. That will preserve kraskas stress modification without moving things in the wrong direction, AND preserve his event nullification in case any other nasty things come our way.

Unfortunately though, it certainly seems like we won't have enough votes for a lynch.

-Cerb