Open 656- Tit For Tat - Endgame

[alban]

lol?

VOTE: NJAC

VOTE: NJAC

{FancyPants}
{Gamma Emerald, Fire Assassin, eagerSnake}
{Kop, texcat, Sgz13, persephone325}
{Yuria}
{alban, NJAC}

How are you doing trouble maker?

Hi! I already caught the whole scumteam!

Yuria remains a town read. Firebringer seems also town. Harko is now null, I don't like his ego posts.

Do you townread and scumread people based on how much you personally like them?

If not - what does ego have to do with my alignment?

NJAC bus texcat for towncred

VOTE: NJAC

i agree, his reads are terrible this game. i think its bcz he's scum.

farside gamma kop fa, vote njac pls.

Hark, care to explain your back and forth on NJAC?
Also, is it just a coincidence that you are asking NJAC to vote for Texcat moments before Farside votes for NJAC and then you vote for NJAC too?
Also, is it just a coincidence that NJAC was your RV too? Full circle.

[Gamma Emerald]

That's not a back-and-forth.

[FancyPants]

I like your paranoia Alban, but that looks pretty consistent to me. I think you're reading this:

{FancyPants}
{Gamma Emerald, Fire Assassin, eagerSnake}
{Kop, texcat, Sgz13, persephone325}
{Yuria}
{alban, NJAC}

Backwards.

[alban]

Hark

is probably town but that whole scum claiming business is pretty annoying and anti-town. Do you get Nk'ed early in games often?

Yuria

seems to be game-solving for me, but I can see her potentially fooling me.

Gamma

is pretty null, struggling to get a read, why do you town read textcat gamma?

NJAC

is a town lean but has collectively said very little.

I''m town reading both

Eager

and

Fire Assasin

for similar reasons (that basically boils down to a IDGAF attitude).

That leaves the lurkers of Kop, Sgz and Persephone.
I can definitely see two scum in those three.

VOTE: NJAC

i agree, his reads are terrible this game. i think its bcz he's scum.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: NJAC

Yep.

What did NJAC do in last two days for you to change your townread?
What happened to your scumreads on Yuria, Kop, Sgz and Persephone?
Is it because you are not able to generate required traction on any of those?

[alban]

Up to now, I'm liking Fancypants, Fire Assassin for town. Slight town reads on Yuria, Hark, Alban, Eager. Null on SGZ, NJAC, Persephone. Slight scum reading on Texcat, Gamma.

Hark is only a slight town read simply because I don't see suicidal play like that as scum. It's simply not a viable game play that I would see scum do at this stage of the game, to openly put themselves out there. And if I think more about it, I think it's reaction testing to see who would actually push it to get an easy lynch by doing what he is doing. It's probably not the best strategy to finding scum because it has higher risk of backfiring, and less reward, or I may even be thinking out the box and this isn't his sole intention. I wouldn't call him newb town, or a VI, but I think it could be just his way of generating discussions, engaging with people, and looking for reactions, it appears poorly played, but it's his own unique way.

Kop, if you vote for NJAC, you should answer the same q I am asking others.

[alban]

NJAC can very well be scum.
But how about justifying your vote?
Only declaration. No reasoning.
It's frustrating.
This game is so weird.

[alban]

I like your paranoia Alban, but that looks pretty consistent to me. I think you're reading this:

{FancyPants}
{Gamma Emerald, Fire Assassin, eagerSnake}
{Kop, texcat, Sgz13, persephone325}
{Yuria}
{alban, NJAC}

Backwards.

My bad.
I have usually seen players writing their lists in the descending order of suspicion.

[FancyPants]

I gave my latest scum pool here:

Actually don't bother, I don't think you're scum, just illogical.

Anyway I really think we should lynch a lurker.
I'm talking about anyone in Kop, Farside, Persephone, and NJAC.
Preferably Persephone.

This has been the perfect game for scum to hide, most of the active players have been at least somewhat town. Textcat and Eager are my outside shots for scum in the active pool of players.

NJAC makes sense, he'll do.

[alban]

NJAC bus texcat for towncred

Hark, forget my question to you.
It's not back and forth.
Dunno why I misread bus as vote.
But it would still be nice to get a reason behind voting NJAC.
Sure you suspected him from the start, but why?

[FancyPants]

As for my reasoning it's largely due to process of elimination from Town reads and the belief that scum have been laying low.

[alban]

And suddenly five people were ready to vote for NJAC?
That was like a quicksand.
I hope I am not defending NJAC wrongly. And doing his job for him.
NJAC where are you? Start defending yourself

[alban]

I gave my latest scum pool here:

Actually don't bother, I don't think you're scum, just illogical.

Anyway I really think we should lynch a lurker.
I'm talking about anyone in Kop, Farside, Persephone, and NJAC.
Preferably Persephone.

This has been the perfect game for scum to hide, most of the active players have been at least somewhat town. Textcat and Eager are my outside shots for scum in the active pool of players.

NJAC makes sense, he'll do.

If you still have nothing more on NJAC as compared to the other 4, shouldn't you think whose lynch gives the city max info?
Going by interactions and content, it should be Kop > Farside > Persephone > NJAC in the descending order.
If I were you, I will keep Gamma at the top.
Their sizeable interaction pool gives me more to analyse even if they are wrongly lynched.
NJAC has hardly participated in the game. Sure he can be lying low, but if he flips town, his lynching doesn't give any info to me. Does it to you?

[Harkonnen97]

blah-blah-blah

vote NJAC

[farside22]

I'm town

Yeah, very good post. I'm happy with my vote on you.

this

VOTE: alban

Cause that RVS thing.

I don't like this vote, call it gut:

VOTE: Sgz13

Finished reading.

@Gamma: your vote on alban is different from Sgz's. What's your point?

this

HI Mr vague, how are you.
That's just a bunch of quotes.
Why are they scummy?

[Gamma Emerald]

You're voting him too dude.

[Harkonnen97]

thats irrelevant

[farside22]

What is this quick wagon on NJAC?
Surprising even though I suspect him too.

You're voting him too dude.

Yes, I know that. I also haven't explained my scum read.
You on the other hand are a scum read as well so........??

[Yuria]

Yuria: Always discrediting. Playing hardball. And going off on a tangent. But maybe not scummy? Dunno. Could be either.

lol well this is wrong. Or you're using the loosest meanings of words "discredit" and "tangent".

NJAC bus texcat for towncred

I'd vote NJAC.
Last time I played with text he read horribly scummy and was town.
He actually reads better then I remember him, so I'm not sure why he reads scum.

Yeah this is kind of why I've been avoiding him, though I have no strong scum or town gut feel about him.

[Yuria]

I feel like post 400 betrays kops sentiment that texcats flip will bring a lot information, though he admits that he's potentially scummy assuming her town flip. It seems a bit risky as scum, though I imagine he thinks he's less scummy among the ones voting her because he's going through the motions of scumhunting in trying to interact with her.

[Harkonnen97]

I feel like post 400 betrays kops sentiment that texcats flip will bring a lot information, though he admits that he's potentially scummy assuming her town flip. It seems a bit risky as scum, though I imagine he thinks he's less scummy among the ones voting her because he's going through the motions of scumhunting in trying to interact with her.

vote njac bby

[FancyPants]

I gave my latest scum pool here:

Actually don't bother, I don't think you're scum, just illogical.

Anyway I really think we should lynch a lurker.
I'm talking about anyone in Kop, Farside, Persephone, and NJAC.
Preferably Persephone.

This has been the perfect game for scum to hide, most of the active players have been at least somewhat town. Textcat and Eager are my outside shots for scum in the active pool of players.

NJAC makes sense, he'll do.

If you still have nothing more on NJAC as compared to the other 4, shouldn't you think whose lynch gives the city max info?
Going by interactions and content, it should be Kop > Farside > Persephone > NJAC in the descending order.
If I were you, I will keep Gamma at the top.
Their sizeable interaction pool gives me more to analyse even if they are wrongly lynched.
NJAC has hardly participated in the game. Sure he can be lying low, but if he flips town, his lynching doesn't give any info to me. Does it to you?

The problem with Persephone is that she appears to be such a raw newb, it's hard to know if she's just scum trying to stay under the radar or just doesn't know how to play effectively.
The problem with the Sgz slot is that he appeared to just have no time in general as opposed to actively lurking and using inactivity to his advantage.
I would be just as happy with a Kop lynch.

So NJAC is a good option, ideally the Vig takes care of Kop.

[Yuria]

I feel like post 400 betrays kops sentiment that texcats flip will bring a lot information, though he admits that he's potentially scummy assuming her town flip. It seems a bit risky as scum, though I imagine he thinks he's less scummy among the ones voting her because he's going through the motions of scumhunting in trying to interact with her.

vote njac bby

mayb around deadline hun. I don't like to compromise

[farside22]

Yulia I'm very confused. Do you think Kop is scum?
One post reads like your not sure and the other supports a vig kill.

[Yuria]

Im less confident than I want to be, but he is one of my best guesses on whos scum

[farside22]

Fair enough.
He's one of four scum reads I have.
His questions to me just read as filler, they don't really go anywhere.