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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:38 am

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If leonshade is scum, he would have had to been creative enough to come up with "even-night-only cop" and also about having been roleblocked.
In fact, if leonshade is scum he could probably just have faked a guilty onto me or sgz and have won the game easily.
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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:38 am

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So we're at the low probability argument again?
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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:42 am

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VC 4.1
McMenno (2)- Sgz13, Heartache
callforjudgement (1)- Leonshade
Heartache (1)- McMenno

Not voting (2)- callforjudgement, 1 Shot Vanilla Town
With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:43 am

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Isn't it literally fact?

It's more so the cherry on top than anything else though, if you can follow any read progression in his iso please tell me how.
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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 4:01 am

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In post 650, Heartache wrote:If leonshade is scum, he would have had to been creative enough to come up with "even-night-only cop" and also about having been roleblocked.
In fact, if leonshade is scum he could probably just have faked a guilty onto me or sgz and have won the game easily.
But if Leonshade is town and McMenno is scum, then who's McMenno's buddy? From your point of view, it can only be me or 1SVT, unless there's something I'm missing.

I agree that McMenno's claim is terrible and that his ISO is terrible, but by far the most plausible McMenno buddies are Leonshade and you. The other possibilities require some rather implausible jumping around of blocking roles. So you might want to re-evaluate your reads, taking theory into account.

@Leonshade: I'm really tired right now, so I'm not likely to be able to manage any complex theory immediately, but I'll have a look at seeing if there's some sort of breaking no-lynch strategy when I wake up. (My initial guess is that there isn't, though.)

@1SVT:
If you're scum
, you almost certainly have an unclaimed blocking-like role (unless Heartache is your buddy). There are plenty of scenarios where you aren't scum at all, though.

Note that Leonshade could have been either Rolestopped by someone (presumably scum), or Ascetic (in which case Leonshade is scum); both of those would explain Heartache's no-result without you being able to see why, and without Heartache being scum. So that isn't exactly a 1v1
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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 4:04 am

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In post 654, callforjudgement wrote:@1SVT: If you're scum, you almost certainly have an unclaimed blocking-like role (unless Heartache is your buddy). There are plenty of scenarios where you aren't scum at all, though.
Didn't you have a question to go with this worthless comment?
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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 5:08 am

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After thinking about it, there's no way to verify my claim N4, and the only one who can verify I'm not Ascetic N4 is Heartache.

I'm not interested in a McMenno lynch today, if ever. I guess he could be CFJ's buddy, but I think it's Heartache instead.
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 5:09 am

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In post 653, Heartache wrote:Isn't it literally fact?

It's more so the cherry on top than anything else though, if you can follow any read progression in his iso please tell me how.
No, the chance we have 1 VT is 100%. The chance McMenno is a 2nd VT on setup alone is 21%. Simples.

Can we move on from maths now please?

Also, if you're talking about careless votes at mylo you just put someone at L-2.
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:31 am

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It's cool, I don't think Heartache's buddy is gonna sheep onto McMenno. He's budy distancing at the moment.
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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:38 am

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:roll:
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:40 am

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You're like titus.
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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:13 am

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So we have either heart or leo as confirmed scum then.
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:02 am

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Anyone see a reason not to lynch Heartache at this point?
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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:05 am

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then why aren't you voting them
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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:08 am

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You seem keen.
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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:09 am

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A Heartache/McMenno team is highly unlikely, so I'm not sure why you're still voting for McMenno Sgz.
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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:09 am

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A Heartache/McMenno team is highly unlikely, so I'm not sure why you're still voting for McMenno Sgz.
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:11 am

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VOTE: Heartache
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:21 am

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VOTE: Leonshade
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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:25 am

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Does that vote have any purpose other than post flip confusion?
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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:26 am

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where's your vote for that matter, leonshade?
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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:26 am

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In post 650, Heartache wrote:If leonshade is scum, he would have had to been creative enough to come up with "even-night-only cop" and also about having been roleblocked.
In fact, if leonshade is scum he could probably just have faked a guilty onto me or sgz and have won the game easily.
In post 668, Heartache wrote:VOTE: Leonshade
Same page, too, that read changed fast.

I think I'd still prefer CFJ first, due to the unexplained block on me, but I'm more than happy to lynch Heartache today.
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:27 am

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In post 601, McMenno wrote:let's not delay this further

VOTE: Heartache
This is proof mcmenno is the scum. Only a mislynch ends the game, and his words betray that he knows this is a mislynch.
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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:28 am

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you're
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grasping at straws now
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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:28 am

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In post 672, Heartache wrote:
In post 601, McMenno wrote:let's not delay this further

VOTE: Heartache
This is proof mcmenno is the scum. Only a mislynch ends the game, and his words betray that he knows this is a mislynch.
McMenno proven scum -> vote Leon?
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