Shadow_step wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:23 amnn30 is today's lynch.
Shadow_step wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:56 amThe fact that nn30 was off the Eager wagon is more damning. Scum knew he was town and didn't want to be on his wagon. They wanted town to destroy themselves, look at LUV's wagon position. He was so reluctant to join the Eager wagon.
I don't think it's damning to make a vote that three confirmed towns made. Another possible interpretation is that LUV was reluctant to bus Day 1, he took a hard stance between Eager/Shadow by voting Shadow and wound up just lolhammering Eager so I don't really think being on a wagon that flipped town was the biggest concern. His vote makes a lot of sense if boring is scum and Eager is town. P-edit: nn beat me to it but I'll leave this anyway.
Can you explain to me why you don't think his vote makes sense if boring is scum?
boring wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:22 pmPrism, I'm going to need you to reread my post. I said your argument was crap because it's based on the assumption that I have the intelligence and subtlety of an Easter ham, which, frankly, anyone would find a bit insulting. Either way, it's time to move onto crazy tunnel #4. Maaaaybe PP?
I've read it. Saying "I'd have to be stupid to do that" is not convincing. On the contrary, I'm suggesting that you are
too intelligent
to be surprised by scum's choice of kill given the knowledge that jailing Gamma is a waste of a jail, and that scum can risk one kill-less night. I also think that killing someone who is suspicious of you is a solid play. I see no reason to go on PP-the only questionable thing he's really done is overplay the brash behavior when he realized people townread it. That's scummy, sure, but that's definitely possible as town. If anything right now my second choice would be Grendel-my first impression of his case on Shadow is that he knows he's not winning vs. nn30 and needs a hail mary, especially if you're scum with him. Assuming no two death nights, scum needs at minimum 3 mislynches to win, and they're not going to make themselves. Somebody has to create them, and it's not happening if a red flip comes today.
I'm not trying to insult your intelligence and I'm sorry if it comes off that way. That said, I think it's more likely that you're playing up your offense just to be more dismissive, because I have actual points I've given, and you're willfully just skipping to taking offense and insulting me. You can be frustrated because it's entirely possible that my theories are
completely untrue
, but acting like they're irrational and impossible is another thing.
Zoronos wrote:What is the rest of the case, beyond 'a bunch of town voted for her D1'?
I guess I'm missing the thrust of the case kinda other than the bussing part but maybe I'm the dumb.
Only speaking for me but a few of the reasons I'm voting her are:
-Maria death
-Acknowledging why Gamma wouldn't be jailed but claims to be confused about why he died
-Voting LUV with me really doesn't convince me given the timing. LUV did something incredibly scummy and it doesn't take a town to see that. This may be confirmation bias speaking but a lot of her votes both today and other days seem opportunistic, ex.
#1763 gives the possibility of her switching to Gamma. Kind of hypocritical of me to point out as I've said numerous times to make sure your vote is somewhere it counts, but the
who it is
question is still there.
-LUV voting Shadow then quickhammering Eager rather than just voting one of Eager/boring in a natural way to begin with is really strange if they're both town.
-Part of it is just me staring blankly at my computer, blankly looking at the names Dierfire/Grendel/boring/PenguinPower, and asking myself who's the most likely scum out of the 4.
Still trying to make time to reread Grendel/Dierfire but life happens and I'm really busy today and tomorrow. I'll try and make it happen ASAP because if this flips town I need to be ready to go with alternative ideas. Right now I'd be pretty lost.
