The New Set-Up Review Thread

[Andrius]

So, does one have to have a certain standing/ meet a requirement to look over a set-up? Because I'd totally be willing to help people out if there's not something prohibiting me from doing so.

[Andrius]

Ok, thanks Incognito! I'm playing alot now, and I'll start modding once I hit the residency requirement.

So yeah. I PM'd Wolframnhart about his, but if someone wants/needs me to look over a setup I'd love to help out!

[Andrius]

For certain types of games, yes, Andrius.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 48&start=0

The 1st step when preparing to mod a large theme, for example, requires that the reviewer is qualified with that type of game. I haven't checked, but I'm sure it is likewise for other types of games.

Qualified, as in, you can mod that type of game or you can play that type of game? :/

[Andrius]

Mod the same type of game.

Bah. So, I can't review anything until I can mod, right?
That sucks, if true.

[Andrius]

Well, you can't be the 'official' reviewer for a game, no. But that doesn't mean you can't use your experience to help somebody look at a setup, poke holes in their theme, etc. We just like to have somebody with a bit of experience at that type of game 'sign off' on it before it's run, to avoid problems later.

Wow, I feel kinda' honored to have Mr. Flay helping me out. XD
Alright, that makes sense. Thanks Flay!
In that case, Parama, I'll totally look ar your set-up, as long as you know I can't be used as "official".

[Andrius]

I'll look at it, FCG, but know that I can't count as an "official" reviewer when the time comes, so.
Otherwise, yeah, I'm willing.

[Andrius]

Why do people keep saying stuff like this?

[/offtopic]

You're (kind of) a big deal. XD
I mean, nothing like mith descending from mafiscum-heaven to help out, but still. Thanks.

[Andrius]

I guess I'll just send a PM. lol

[Andrius]

Plum and I need some reviews for

Lord of the Rings: Mafia

.

We're looking for some Setup Reviewers for the awesome setup we've designed. Its 24 players, and a Large Theme game. Experience is great.
If you are interested in helping in either form, please contact me or the joint-modding account titled Bilbo Baggins.

Please and thank you~!

-Andy

I think we're good, reviewer wise.
Thanks to xReckx, mallowgeno, CallMeLiam, Faraday, Kdub and ooba. <3

[Andrius]

Hey, need a review for a mini-theme mafia game. Send me a pm if your available to review.

No one?

You should've PM'd Reck. That's what I did.

But sure. Send it to me. I see you're from Spokane.

[Andrius]

Plum and I need some reviews for

Lord of the Rings: Mafia

.

We're looking for some Setup Reviewers for the awesome setup we've designed. Its 24 players, and a Large Theme game. Experience is great.
If you are interested in helping in either form, please contact me or the joint-modding account titled Bilbo Baggins.

Please and thank you~!

-Andy

I guess that there's no need to PM you as Plum will discuss the setup with me anyway, I'm sure, unless you'd mind. We always discuss setups.

**edited because I fail at reading. See the below post**

[Andrius]

Wow. My reading abilities are kaput.
Sure, I don't mind the sister-sister talk. What am I supposed to do, prevent you two from talking about it? lol
/fail at reading

[Andrius]

I like this version better, but the potential for Town to lose after one Day is still not appealing.

So you'd rather the town lose D1?

[Andrius]

What form does reviewing usually take? I have my game setup, role PMs and flavor all ready in PowerPoint and Keynote form, so I would like to use email. Or is there some other way to do it, normally?

In my experience, I've usually received setups I review in PMs. Usually the roles are just listed in a list in a PM. For more complicated setups, I've seen a QT. Personally, I use Excel sheets for setup designing, but then transfer them to a list in a PM.

And Faraday is awesome. Do whatever he says. lol

[Andrius]

I'm not sure how to put everything in PM form... Just list roles and things without flavor or what?

If its a Normal Game, yeah. It shouldn't have too much flavor- hence Normal- so yeah. List roles and such.

VT
VT
Doc
Cop
NK-Immune Miller Vig
...

You get the point.

[Andrius]

I need a reviewer and general help for

Mafia at High Noon

. If you've seen the previously-run game Last Man Standing, this is similar. If you haven't, the general idea is that everyone has a gun and isn't afraid to use it.

Half of the problem I'm having is in writing flavor, so if'n yeh can speak like the locals of an ol' western town, that'll be a right boon.

I can cross-review.

OH GOD YES. I LOVED THAT GAME. 8D
That game made me a fan of hohum, you, and VP Baltar. <3

I'm willing to help you out. I'd play, but it would probably be just as fun to watch. I mean, do all the characters have to speak the same dialect? Like, could one be an indian, one be a city slicker, recent immigrant, that type of deal. Even if they all have the same role dealio, (or unless you're planning on all the mafioso to be one group/dialect and the other to be different), a bit of linguistic freedom would go a long way in making the game special.

[Andrius]

I know I haven't modded a mini normal yet (I'm near the top of the queue!), but I'm planning on making a

Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World Mafia

the second I can; based off the comics/graphic novels AND the movie. Right now I only have a general idea of what the setup'll look like, so I'd love someone to bounce ideas off of for a bit. Flavor knowledge is

highly

recommended. And no rush, of course.

Also willing to cross-review to the best of my ability, although I recommend not using me as the sole reviewer since I'm not that confident in my reviewing abilities yet.

You can;t mod that in the Normal Queue, so I'd wait a little bit before making it.

Design it anyway. Its good practice.

[Andrius]

Okay.
I have an incredibly swingy, incredibly bastard game I need reviewed. I'm not looking for ABSOLUTE balance, but more for someone to read this setup and tell me how fucking ridiculous it's going to be and how I can either amp up (or tone down) the ridiculousness of it. Also, a worst-case-scenario town loss and best-case-scenario town win would be nice too.

Best case scenario town win should be nothing like as easy as the Guys 2 mini-theme. That was ridiculous. Since when do you make a lyncher's target one of the scumbags? rofl

QFT.

[Andrius]

Hey mallow. If its an Open Setup, you can post it in the Open Setup Discussion Thread, where its discussion especially for Open Setups.

[Andrius]

I have time for a couple of reviews this week if anyone needs a second pair of eyes.

I might hit you up later on. Still working things out with RC.

[Andrius]

Man.... its hard to get people to review a game.

I'd review it, but I want to play

and get awesome-as-f*** scumboss again

.

[Andrius]

I've got a 12-player mini theme game based off The Godfather. (It will be the first game in short series of Godfather-themed games.)
If I could have one more set of eyes look it over that would be great. (Already reviewed by

CallMeLiam

.)
-Andy

Edit:

CSL

has offered to review it. So I'm all set reviewer-wise, but if you'd like to review you certainly can. XD

[Andrius]

Agh. I'd help, but I'd rather play...

I'm honored.
Its alright though; I got 2 reviewers, and I'm very confident in the balance, so.
Should I put you down as a pre-in? You can back out later if you're busy or something. XD

[Andrius]

Yeah, let me know when it comes up; if it's winter after things start to die down around here, I'll probably play.

Oh. Well, it would probably be sooner rather than later... unless ReaperCharlie and I hammer out The Breadcrumb Bakery in time.

I should probably get that reviewed, thinking about it. XD

[Andrius]

/in to review Fugi's game, if he wants.

Dude, just PM him. XD

[Andrius]

Hey so I'd like a couple (1-2) reviewers to look over the Lord of the Rings mini theme I plan on running soon.
(Note: Its sort of a sequel to the large Plum and I ran, so it doesn't exactly follow a set film/novel.)
Flavor knowledge isn't necessary, BTW.

edit: Ok cool I have 3 people. I think that's good.
Thanks to Kit, Reck, and Empking (or his alt's alt?)

[Andrius]

I'd like to get some feedback on my mini theme, "Advance Wars: Mafia Strikes." There are lots of different roles and ability interactions, so it would be really nice to get someone interested in PR/ability balancing. Thanks in advance to any takers!

*waves*

edit: /laughs at pun in the "thanks in

advance

".

[Andrius]

AGM
PUT ME AND FATE IN FOR ADVANCE WARS IF THERE'S ANOTHER ONE
PUHLEEEEZE

And Vas.
And Socio.

[Andrius]

Yes, I've heard. I'd like to try it anyway. I had one mod look at it and she says she thinks it will work for the site and be fun.

Of course, by the time I am able to mod it, I will have played on these forums for quite a while and modded some other games here. If I am lucky, I will gain a good reputation and people will want to play in my games.

If I can find a way to cut it down while still keeping the balance, I will. That's one of the reasons I was asking for reviews.

More info: It's a deep theme game.

I have modded other big games (45+) on other sites all by myself, which much shorter turnover time for gameplay, so I am not really worried about the workload.

Who exactly looked at it? lol
45+ would be very hard, IMO.
I've never seen more than 28.

[Andrius]

Hey, I need 2 people (or more) to look over a Large Theme for me (and dana) based on Greek Mythology.
20 players. Power-heavy (reminiscient of Greek Mythos). No Cults or bastard moddery.

I'm just looking for people who are willing to spend a bit of time working over the setup, bounce ideas off, look for breakage. Typical stuff.

-Andy

[Andrius]

I totally would but I might need to play that game. Hmmm. Decisions decisions. Maybe I'll just tell Pom to pre-/in . . .

/Pre-in. Definitely.
We just need to grab Joh and Jack back from the graveyard...
I'll PM all the vets of the mini when /pre-ins are open.

[Andrius]

Could use somebody who DOESN'T want to play Succession Mafia II to kick some ideas around with - I don't have the setup finalized in the 'roles and rules' stage yet, because Weird Mechanics are eating my brain. Need a reality check...

I might have to. I'll be gone for two weeks in June and two week V/LAs are outside prod range, so. :/
I'll get back to you; I need to saw out my committments before late June.

[Andrius]

HEY TIMEATER.

If its Open you can post it in the Open Setup thread, and if its closed you just get people to look at it privately. Works like a charm.

[Andrius]

I'm looking for a couple reviewers for Encore Mafia: Moderator Edition. There's no setup now as its designed around the players playing the game (all players will get a role from a previously modded game of theirs), but 1-2 people willing to help design/balance the setup when the time comes would be awesome.

Thanks much!


edit: Thanks Vi!

[Andrius]

I'm looking for someone (or two)

to make sure Toast and I aren't on moonbeams

to look at my mini theme and make sure its not badly balanced.
Much thanks.

-Andy

edit: No longer needed, thanks Trumpet of Doom!

[Andrius]

Ok. So I need 1-2 people to look at my next mini theme, which may or may not

it will

have something to do with lord of the rings.

-Andy


edit: Thanks dram and Empking!

[Andrius]

I'm looking for someone to bounce ideas off/help design a game that may become Battle for Your Souls. Shoot me a PM if interested.

[Andrius]

Need a reviewer or two to look over

Breadcrumb Pastry Mafia

.

Bribing you with a Hobbit cake.

[Andrius]

I am looking for a couple reviewers for a The Butcher, The Baker, the Pastry-Maker Mafia a large theme game based on... baked goods and pastries.

Game will be a uPick, so I'm looking for a couple people to review the game after the players select baked goods/pastries.

Thank you quadz and Cephrir!

[Andrius]

I'm thinking of a big theme game. I would like someone to teach me the ropes or link me to must reads for new mods or some interesting discussion.
Another question is, do all games need to be reviewed? What happens if a game is reviewed but they think it's not balanced or something?

No. Not all games need to be reviewed. Non-Open Games are most often reviewed by at least one reviewer to check for various things. Always for balance, often for breaking strategies or interactions that the mod may have missed in design.

Large Theme Games

require

reviews. Smaller games to not require them but it is generally good form to have games reviewed.

This is a decent-length read written by Vi years ago on modding. There's a lot of good things in here.

What happens if a game is reviewed but they think it's not balanced or something?

This is a bit more complex; reviewers generally must agree to the setup in its final state.
But generally the reviewer will give the mod their criticism and comments on the game.
The mod, being the creator/designer, can choose to add/remove/modify their setup as they wish. After all, if a mod wishes to run a game and ignore their reviewers they are fine to do so as long as the reviewer is not listed as giving their approval.
But generally reviewers are not asses and generally provide feedback or recommendations to balance a game.

[Andrius]

Need a couple reviewers for DEFCON MAFIA 4.0.

Reviewers are not barred from playing since its an open game.

Thank you.

Thank you to Spy, Gamagooey, and TBM.

[Andrius]

Would like a reviewer (or two) for Pictomafia IV, a 13 player Mini Theme and Closed Setup.

Thank you in advance!

[Andrius]

Would like a reviewer (or two) for Pictomafia IV, currently sitting as a small-sized Large (14-15).

Thank you in advance!

[Andrius]

Looking for a reviewer for Darkest Dungeon Mafia, a 13-player Mini Theme, which has a unique Stress Mechanic.

Thank you in advance!

Thank you MagnaofIllusion!