In post 2336, Prism wrote:In post 2319, Grendel wrote:I had this weird feeling creeping up on me yesterday that Prisum has been trying to pocket me this whole game.
But has made zero attempts at white knighting since I've come under fire. So I guess I was wrong?
In past days I've said virtually nothing about your alignment, the only times I did were that I liked your RVS questions and that I liked one specific post Day 2. The only reason I've ever given to townread you is based off Maria's death. In contrast, I've also pointed out that certain posts of yours were bad, and some of them worse yet replying to me without actually reading the original post (which suggests you weren't interested in them to begin with). You've been basically in the middle to bottom half of the game, and I've made it explicit that I intend to vote you today if I can't get boring. If boring is town, you are almost certainly scum by PoE. If boring is scum, you are still a very likely candidate for the partner.
You didn't even acknowledge repeated announcements for you as a potential alternative lynch, both today and yesterday. I'm not just not whiteknighting you, I'm straight up more on the offense. Between this and 2-3 other posts that appear unconcerned as to what I'm actually thinking, and boring pushing a PP lynch, you've definitely earned the second spot. I'll ISO you sometime tomorrow night.
If I’ve been bouncing around the middle of bottom you reads what was up with the times you scratched my chin? Like announcing whenever I made a high quality post? Do you just randomly hand out compliments to your scum reads?
Yea, I had you as town for a while, but wasn’t super interested in teaming up with you so I didn’t give your posts and cases priority over the others that I needed to sort, or was more interested in generally. Do you normally consider people that are clearly disinterested in you to be scummy?
I could see what you mean if I had you down as a strong scum read, but that isn't the case.
I’m pretty sure the only time I entirely forgot something you presented was when I was confused that you blindly followed Implosion’s meta argument, which you explained as a miscommunication. You are now mad that I had forgotten that first encounter, which I am explaining as a miscommunication on my part. Do you want an Asop, or is my point clear?
In post 2435, nn30 wrote:In post 2433, Grendel wrote:2) I think that boring is town, but a lot of it is based off of gut, and notes I took yesterday. I don't think I can lynch her.
What do you think of the case on her though? Obviously you believe it to be incorrect - why though?
The thing about the boring case is that I feel like she has been in a lot of peoples scum lean for much of the game. In this position its more likely that scum would try to lurk out the pressure. From what I’ve seen boring has been pretty on top of things and actively contributing to the gamestate. The near constant pressure makes me think that town is just being paranoid, thus watching and dissecting boring more than any other player. Also, more than town paranoia there is the chance of mafia taking advantage of this at some point, and into today.
Things that could possibly point to scum boring look circumstantial, like scum reading her for her unvote to LUV. It seems like she had some doubts about the Doc claim but didn’t want to make a mistake and accidentally flip the town doctor. It was a pretty natural reaction that I don’t think was fake. I don’t wholly understand how LUV’s lack of a counter strike towards boring should paint boring as bussing scum since LUV would want to distance himself from boring, which I don’t really recall happening. I also don't see boring being the hard bussing type, and she was on the LUV wagon for extended periods of time all of D2, even with the existence of an appetizing Gamma wagon was happening on the side. She had multiple times she could of justified leaving the LUV wagon. The only time she unvoted LUV was when he fake claimed, but most people did at the time so...
I don’t agree with what Eager had as a case on boring. I don’t agree with his tone read on boring being happy with the D1 cc. Or his assurance that boring must be scum based off a lack of action on her wagon early into D1. I mainly believe this to be so because there were people who voiced suspicions, but didn’t scum read her enough to put any more votes down. I think if scum were jumping on boring’s wagon they’d do it when she was the focus of discussion. Lastly, the fact that Penguin is swayed by Eager’s argument now after a whole day goes by looks opportunistic. If he truly thought that Eager was on to something why did he why so long to point this out?
I still don’t think Maria night kill points towards boring!scum.
I did wonder when I first thought that shadow is scum if he was hard defending boring because he wouldn’t want another buddy bussed with him being a claimed role and all. But at the same time, if shadow sees that town!boring is today’s lynch he may be trying to put himself in a good light by town reading her.