In post 2646, PenguinPower wrote:In post 2643, nn30 wrote:@PP - Also, holy hell I'm glad you didn't leave me digging for breadcrumbs for too long. I would never have found that.
I didn't want anyone to find it. I wanted to use that as "proof" later on so that my investigations would be believed. Now we mass claimed, so may as well point to it.
In post 2651, Grendel wrote:Hey Penguin. I know you think I'm scummy, but if you were to assume I were town. Do you think that Deirfire and nn30 are scummy, and have scum chemistry with LUV?
Zoronos wrote:1) Breadcrumbs are dumb. I don't understand why people do them, and I further don't understand why anyone believes them. As the NN30 / Penguin interaction showed, that crumb would never have been found without it being pointed out, which makes it intrinsically useless since anyone could leave any number of similarly un-findable crumbs, and then point back to any arbitrary claim.
In post 2661, implosion wrote:You're right in the sense that this does make them theoretically useless. You're wrong in that in practice no one does this. No one is saying a breadcrumb should be a be-all end-all. But empirically I don't think I've ever seen a scum player breadcrumb multiple things.
In post 2658, PenguinPower wrote:Are you serious right now? I could have easily claimed VT with the rest of you, especially since I wasn't even up on the chopping block to date.
You're really making me reconsider my Grendel read with you continued focus on me instead of probable scum.
In post 2657, nn30 wrote:@Implosion - the breadcrumb only implies planning. Scum could have thought ahead - I'm agreeing on the town read but don't rule this out.
Why else is PP town for you?
In post 2644, boring wrote:In post 2639, Shadow_step wrote:I'd prefer boring right now.
She tries to throw shade on PP without committing to a stance. Asks for town consensus about PP claim.
I saw his claim and unvoted because that what you're supposed to do when people claim. Am I supposed to welcome into the town fold with open arms after the fake doc claim yesterday? He's been scummy all game, just like LUV.
Anyway, it looks like you're throwing shade at me without committing to a stance because you know you're next in my scum-line, and you might as well get ready for an OMGUS. You follow it up by throwing shade at the guy who comes right after you in my read list. Not very subtle.
PP, you didn't actually expect anyone to pick up on that "breadcrumb", did you? By the way, did you spend the whole game with the knowledge that you were Deputy, or were you informed when Gamma was killed?
In post 2648, boring wrote:In post 2579, Shadow_step wrote:@boring #2571
How does believing a claim make me scum? what is your argument here? I don't get it at all.
I'll try to explain in more detail.
It's not the fact that you believed his claim that is fishy to me. It's that you stated intent to hammer because, and I quote,In post 2085, Shadow_step wrote:I want to lock LUV into a claim, I think he is also scum.
If that was your thinking, your purpose, then why would you take it entirely at face value? It makes the whole thing seem staged, like "okay little buddy, time for you to claim now"...
The next quote I mentioned, aside from indicating your belief, added what looked like a slip.In post 2092, Shadow_step wrote:Brilliant, all the lynch baits got all the good PRs :/
Because again, why is this a thing worthy of " :/ "? If all the "lynch baits" can be established as conf. town, that's good news. That is, unless your "scum hunt" is just a hunt for easy mislynches.
p-edit: I'll look through your interactions with Gamma around the claim, and see if it looks congruent with the deputy claim. Were you offered a read last night, since Gamma died, or is it supposed to start tonight?
Zoronos wrote:
I have seen scum do this.
Maybe nobody on *this* board does it (or nobody you've seen), but I absolutely guarantee it happens and is very easy to do.
So. Practice reasonable skepticism and play the game in front of us.
Zoronos wrote:If you want me to even begin to agree with a Boring lynch, you should explain to me why in the presence of multiple 'easy' trains yesterday, she stayed locked on LUV.
She played anti-opportunistically. Why do that as scum and instead sit locked on for an unnecessary D2 bus?
It's really easy to float to day 1 or day 2 in order to give your teammates something to bus, and that matches his behavior.
In post 2664, Shadow_step wrote:In post 2657, nn30 wrote:@Implosion - the breadcrumb only implies planning. Scum could have thought ahead - I'm agreeing on the town read but don't rule this out.
Why else is PP town for you?
This is why I keep thinking you are scum. You just do surface level analysis and jump to conclusions.
Let's imagine PP is scum here, how many days do you think he can get away with? He has to say his night result everyday. There are 4 people he cannot investigate. Himself, implosion, zoro and me. One will get lynched today. That leaves 4 people. He can't pretend to have been RBed. He can't fake a guilty cause we can test his result. How does he explain him not getting killed at night?
Basically there is no way PP is scum.
boring wrote:Because again, why is this a thing worthy of " :/ "? If all the "lynch baits" can be established as conf. town, that's good news. That is, unless your "scum hunt" is just a hunt for easy mislynches.