Open 656- Tit For Tat - Endgame

Fire Assassin · Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:25 pm

In post 1123, farside22 wrote:Fire and Infinity what are your current scum reads?

I don't know, your definitely a possibility for one of them, but I am not lynching you today.

Fire Assassin · Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:26 pm

I still lean on a Eager lynch but some of Kops ISO that I skimmed doens't leave me hopeful on that.
And his reads on me, hark, and Fancy leave me paranoid as fuck that one of them has to be scum.

eagerSnake · Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:31 am

In post 1121, FancyPants wrote:I was going to continue my case on Eager but there is some interesting back and forth between Eager and Kop, they were at each others throats quite a bit this game.
I'm unsure if this makes Eager look better.
Here's an interesting question, if you are scum here to you jailkeep your most suspected buddy or go for jailkeep on a suspected vig? I half expected the vig shot to bounce off Eager.

@Eager, care to explain how you knew NJAC would flip town here:
In post 1104, eagerSnake wrote:
If I'm scum why don't I just hammer NJAC?

It's probably worth having a look back at all the wagons with the flipped player information

I didn't "know" he would flip town but I figured he might I got townvibes from his at-the-end appeals

FancyPants · Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:54 am

In post 1127, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 1121, FancyPants wrote:I was going to continue my case on Eager but there is some interesting back and forth between Eager and Kop, they were at each others throats quite a bit this game.
I'm unsure if this makes Eager look better.
Here's an interesting question, if you are scum here to you jailkeep your most suspected buddy or go for jailkeep on a suspected vig? I half expected the vig shot to bounce off Eager.

@Eager, care to explain how you knew NJAC would flip town here:
In post 1104, eagerSnake wrote:
If I'm scum why don't I just hammer NJAC?

It's probably worth having a look back at all the wagons with the flipped player information
I didn't "know" he would flip town but I figured he might I got townvibes from his at-the-end appeals

Kinda feels like you didn't even consider the possibility.

Who's scum?

eagerSnake · Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:16 am

not sure I was thinking Kop was scum but since he died in the night I'll have to assess everything again and haven't gotten around to that yet

eagerSnake · Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:18 am

In post 1128, FancyPants wrote:
In post 1127, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 1121, FancyPants wrote:I was going to continue my case on Eager but there is some interesting back and forth between Eager and Kop, they were at each others throats quite a bit this game.
I'm unsure if this makes Eager look better.
Here's an interesting question, if you are scum here to you jailkeep your most suspected buddy or go for jailkeep on a suspected vig? I half expected the vig shot to bounce off Eager.

@Eager, care to explain how you knew NJAC would flip town here:
In post 1104, eagerSnake wrote:
If I'm scum why don't I just hammer NJAC?

It's probably worth having a look back at all the wagons with the flipped player information
I didn't "know" he would flip town but I figured he might I got townvibes from his at-the-end appeals
Kinda feels like you didn't even consider the possibility.

Who's scum?

Also it kinda feels like you're trying real hard to paint me as scum here

eagerSnake · Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:22 am

It's probably as simple as looking at the people who are trying to paint me as scum. [infinity 324, fire assassin, fancypants]

At least one of them guys is probably scum the other 1-2 are just mislead townies

farside22 · Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:52 am

VOTE: fire

Would also vote hark (insert replacement name here

Fire Assassin · Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:42 pm

In post 1132, farside22 wrote:VOTE: fire

Would also vote hark (insert replacement name here

I am not getting lynched Farside.
I am confirmed town.

Now explain this scummy vote.

Fire Assassin · Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:42 pm

In post 1129, eagerSnake wrote:not sure I was thinking Kop was scum but since he died in the night I'll have to assess everything again and haven't gotten around to that yet

You had nothing before, so you are re accessing nothing.

eagerSnake · Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:06 pm

In post 1133, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 1132, farside22 wrote:VOTE: fire

Would also vote hark (insert replacement name here
I am not getting lynched Farside.
I am confirmed town.

Now explain this scummy vote.

How are you confirmed town?

Fire Assassin · Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:37 pm

Just by how bad I am.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:10 pm

It's hard for me to imagine someone being scum other than eager and farside here

FancyPants · Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:54 pm

In post 1137, Infinity 324 wrote:It's hard for me to imagine someone being scum other than eager and farside here

I'm kind of with you.

The Hark replace out was pretty town, hard to imagine scum replacing out of such a favourable day 2. Given that I town read the slot beforehand it's probably a safe town bet.
I have strong town reads on Infinity and a slightly less certain town read on Fire Assasin. It kind of has to be Eager and Farside.

It's fair to say that if we mis-lynch now we probably lose.

If we mis-lynch a townie scum only have three possible vig targets. There's also a strong chance they have at least one or two townies cleared as "cannot be vig".
Considering they have a JK still in the game perhaps a mass claim is in order? Is that a terrible idea? It feels like it might be optimal.

FancyPants · Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:31 am

In post 1132, farside22 wrote:VOTE: fire

Would also vote hark (insert replacement name here

Farside will you share why you think FA is scum?
Also why you think Eager is a bad lynch for today.

farside22 · Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:55 am

In post 1133, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 1132, farside22 wrote:VOTE: fire

Would also vote hark (insert replacement name here
I am not getting lynched Farside.
I am confirmed town.

Now explain this scummy vote.

I see nothing town.

FancyPants wrote:
In post 1132, farside22 wrote:VOTE: fire

Would also vote hark (insert replacement name here
Farside will you share why you think FA is scum?
Also why you think Eager is a bad lynch for today.

I'm going to be blunt.

I think eager is the vig.

The kill on Kop and his read on Kop make sense to be vig.
So it's poe at this point.
I'm town reading you and based on lack of interaction I'm leaning fire and Hark.

Basically I'd lynch anyone one of fire/hark/Infinity at this point.

Explain why hark replacing reads town?
NJAC thought he was scum.

FancyPants · Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:57 am

In post 1140, farside22 wrote: I'm going to be blunt.

I think eager is the vig.

The kill on Kop and his read on Kop make sense to be vig.
So it's poe at this point.

I actually had the same thought which is why I called for a mass-claim...
Guess we'll see how this pans out.

To be fair if you are scum you could have come to that conclusion easier, but since I came to that conclusion myself I can't blame you.

FancyPants · Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:32 am

VLA till Sunday morning.

FancyPants · Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:38 am

Last thoughts before I leave.

Eager should probably claim now, we've either given scum a good lead, or Farside is scum but in either case if you are the vig you should speak up. Then if we get a counter claim at least our odds of hitting scum have go up to 50%.
Also Farside and I have soft-claimed not vig, and Hark can't be the vig so the vig pool from a scum perspective is pretty small at this point.

As for Hark I did think his replace out was townie but her did make one comment early in the game, somewhere along the lines of "I always get town read as scum" that I thought was dodgey, perhaps worth a relook.

No drastic action before I get back please.

Fire Assassin · Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:57 am

lynch Farside and Eager, if Eager is Vigi, I don't care for this game. We can take the loss. Being vigil doesn't mean lurking the fuck out of the game:

VOTE: Eagersnake

Also, yeah I am not vigil thats a claim. I am not a power role at all.

If you guys think I would push as many bad wagons as I have well....I don't blame you 100% but I know my scum game involves more bussing to look somewhat competent, I am just not competent at all in this game.

eagerSnake · Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 8:01 am

Fire Assassin who do you think is the vig?

farside22 · Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:53 pm

I'm voting scum.

Fire Assassin · Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:11 pm

In post 1146, farside22 wrote:I'm voting scum.

Explain why I am scum.

This makes zero fucking sense from my stand point on you.
I said start of this day, not sure but I think it might be you.

You play this up that you are sure that its me.

Compare this to ANY town game of yours, in this similar situation, you would be going back and forth.

This makes no sense for you to just post stuff like this.
Compare this with me, the only reason I think its more likely you is that I have no idea who Eager ally could be.

Do you read Eager as Town?
Who is my ally?

Fire Assassin · Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:12 pm

In post 1145, eagerSnake wrote:Fire Assassin who do you think is the vig?

Infinity since Fancy already claimed he wasn't.
Are you claiming vig?

Cause even if you did, I am not moving my vote.

farside22 · Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:20 pm

In post 1147, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 1146, farside22 wrote:I'm voting scum.
Explain why I am scum.

This makes zero fucking sense from my stand point on you.
I said start of this day, not sure but I think it might be you.

You play this up that you are sure that its me.

Compare this to ANY town game of yours, in this similar situation, you would be going back and forth.

This makes no sense for you to just post stuff like this.
Compare this with me, the only reason I think its more likely you is that I have no idea who Eager ally could be.

Do you read Eager as Town?
Who is my ally?

One of hark or Infinity.

Here's where I have issues with you and what id expect from town fire.
Some logic.
You know I'm not vig and fancy isn't claiming vig.
Your poe should come down like I did with those you town read and who is left.

Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 1145, eagerSnake wrote:Fire Assassin who do you think is the vig?
Infinity since Fancy already claimed he wasn't.
Are you claiming vig?

Cause even if you did, I am not moving my vote.

I see nothing town about this either.

Also not claimed is one other pr.

I think mass claim is at hand.
We just need a replacement for hark asap.