Open 659- Jungle Republic

[Realeo]

You know what I loved about moderators who didn't lock the thread?

FIRST!

[Realeo]

well hello

i got myself a snazzy lil green role pm here

that i do

OMG! We have a pre-game soft claim!

D1 soft-claim, common.

page 1 soft-claim, common in newbies game.

pre-game soft claim, priceless.

[Realeo]

SEVENTH

This is one of the more interesting setups I have seen, with asymmetric multiball.

You are 5th.

Werewolf is a creature that cannot count because they have no capability of calculating.

BTD can't count.

If

A = Werewolf

B = BTD

C = Calculating

And given

A->C and B->C , using mathematical induction, we can conclude A->B, which means Werewolf is BTD.

VOTE: BTD

[Realeo]

(Frank Sinatra Accent)

Oh My God.

[Realeo]

I am pleased that I am not the only who understand math joke. However, there is an incorrect statement

C should be C = cannot calculate. You rectify my calculation but made a mistake in the process instead.

VOTE: BTD_6 Maker
HURT: keyenpeydee
HEAL: Realeo

Now, we're ready to play some RPG.

Original Roll String: 1d20

1 20-Sided Dice: (13) = 13

[Realeo]

It feels awkward to continue RVS, isn't it? Do we need RQS now?

[Realeo]

Gl folks. None of the votes pre-day 1 are being counted so I think RVS is still okay.
VOTE: BurgerKing
This is my first game with multiple scum factions. If I think someone is a werewolf specifically rather than a mafia member is there a different term for that or is it just a scumread? Also do morning flips show if players were killed by wolf or gunshot in this format?

You mean wolfread and mafread?

And for second, mafia don't kill.

[Realeo]

A friendly reminder not to have the RVS as far as L-1.

Not sure if ssbm didn't read the rules or tried to force a town slip.

On a normal case, I will wait for someone to "foreshade" back. I have seen town foreshad his early skeptical and the scum took this as a chance to foreshade the original skeptist. On that case, I will think the initial skeptic is town and the foreshade backer is scum.

But interesting that no one foreshades back...

There is at least one anti-town in {Kyouko,Transcend}

[Realeo]

Oh wait, scrap that read. I was too premature to call it. It was just 18 hours after the post. Invalid read especially since some players soft V/LA during weekend. Scum maybe offline.

[Realeo]

Finally, someone don't just swallow statistic as - is and question it.

=D

I find the tendency that if a town foreshades someone, scum will foreshade back (Transcend! Why do you try to foreshade him?) I find scum sometimes afraid to foreshade, but not afraid to foreshade back.

So when no one foreshades back, two possibility

1) scum!transcend so ofcourse scum doesn't want to hurt his partner

2) scum!Kyouko to avoid association if either the defender or defended flips

But I was too quick to play my trap card.

[Realeo]

Throwing shade.

[Realeo]

purple

AHHH! TRIGGER! Donald Trump! Purple State! Fucking Florida.

On a serious note. That's a quick accusation. Elaboration, please.

[Realeo]

I won't be that surprised if IO and Transcend in the same scum team.

[Realeo]

That BurgerKing voting Tenshii need some explanation.

[Realeo]

Are we officially out of RVS? I am confuzed.

[Realeo]

The exchange between Tenshii, Transcend, Vedith confuses me..

[Realeo]

Knowing you, you'll probably forget your alignment during Day 4.

Ah! Ircher's game! A classic example of how town can screw an auto win.

VOTE: Vedith

Help me, Vedith. We know this is not your town game.

@shamu:

I am not surprised that Io-Transcend will be both scum because they seem to be not awkward. I remember in a game where I was talking to my another scum about our scum game in the past, it doesn't feel awkward. An example of something that is awkward is the interaction of BTD v Vedith.

[Realeo]

I didn't like his response to be wagoned pregame and early d1 and pushed to stop RVS when he was being voted in it.
Also the jumping on the wagon of Verdith when clearly me and Trans weren't even being remotely serious is highly suspect of just bandwagoning especially with his push to get out of RVS early on.

1. No one is being lynched pre-game so no need to worry.

2. I don't understand your accusation of my early d1 wagon reaction. Elaborate.

3. But I am being serious on the Vedith wagon. This is not his town play and whether you are in the wagon or not is not the consideration. The explanation is an ongoing game, however.

[Realeo]

There's one completed game of town!Vedith and me so actually I can talk about that.

My experinece of town!Vedith was he was serious from the get go. He was being analytical. When he say "I read him like like a book", ugh this is not you?

[Realeo]

Help me, Vedith. We know this is not your town game.

You don't know shit.

[Realeo]

Stupid me. As a scum, I should have known that asking something about a vote is scummy.

VOTE: Tenshii

Especially when the vote is naked.

[Realeo]

Now we are talking. Thank you.

UNVOTE:

Is his scum action consistent from D1? Or this is more "I have a trigger for scum!Transcend and he triggered it". I need to limit my reading scope.

[Realeo]

I am busier that my normal schedule.

Can you pinpoint the game where he is town and scum? Don't tell me where he change. I will try to make my own conclusion.

[Realeo]

I see a tendency where he(Transcend) is more sensitive as a scum. When I mean more sensitive, sensitive to feeling, not sensitive to scum hunting.

Noted. Not conclusive, but it is credible and noted.

[Realeo]

The very early D1 is quite a contrast. Other players need to check it.

[Realeo]

I am reading the game and am not finding

that much

that is concrete enough for me to work with.

Also, you did not answer my point. Please do.

VOTE: Vedith

Enlighten me. Do you have initial hypothesis? Not that much means somewaht considerably.

[Realeo]

WW's will kill you tonight on a mis lynch today.
Then that also gives up Io on you flipping scum.

So who's the thirds scum? There are 3 mafia in this game. According to you, Transcend, Io, and ___________?

[Realeo]

If he's green, I'll be happy. It'll encourage wolves to go for a scumfuck.

I am trying to parse this...

[Realeo]

VOTE: Transcend

I have seen a town makes an early tunnel, but Trans' tunnel is peculiar. I understand each player has their own unique game play, but each game play shows a character and motive. I can't really link them.

[Realeo]

@Vedith

I don't see scum!Io.

[Realeo]

@Vedith

Do you scumread everyone who disagrees with you?

[Realeo]

Transcend has flipped several times on how bothered he is with Vedith's pressure. He has gone from threatening to replace out to not being that bothered to wanting to call Gladiator on Vedith. This seems suspicious at best. Vedith, is threatening to replace out and generally using AtE part of his scum meta? Either way, it is at least best to keep pressure on Transcend until he makes up his mind.

If it's the best to keep pressure, why are you not voting him?

For the record, my vote is a genuine fos. It has nothing to do with Vedith's speculation.

[Realeo]

I am not a merkan but I have a question:

Is it normal for a merkan got drunk in 1pm? 1 am, normal. 1pm?

In 1pm, Transcend make a big jump. 10 pm, he claimed to be sober now. Which is implying that during the big jump, he is drunk? It is normal for people to be irrational when drunk, but 1 pm?

[Realeo]

I'm an American and on some days off work I wake up at 1 and start drinking immediately

So I may have a weak case on Transcend...

UNVOTE:

[Realeo]

personal situations.

I have lied about them.

[Realeo]

Who's pushing you off?

I find your lack of faith of my scumhunting process disturbing.

personal situations.

I have lied about them.

So?
There is no way to prove it at all so it's such a pointless thing to do.

I may as well give an extensive explanation of my vote to make the context clear.

Prepare for a wall of post.

[Realeo]

So Transcend is threatening Vedith for a 1 : 1 trade. What we need to do is understand the motive.

A 1 : 1 trade is usually done because of

anger

and anger is caused by

contempt

.

So we need to understand, is there enough contempt to create it?

u brought the panda back

anyways fine answer i guess but everyone else has voted their non-RVS foses by now and it's pretty clear cut we're out of that stage so why aren't u making am ove

VOTE: Vedith

Sure

We can do this 1v1 style

U can stop ur insufferable death tunnel on me or u can hang

It's up to you, V

Bring it

I'm no longer assed in finding anymore scumfucks until me, or this guy dies.

K I'm sober now are you gonna stop being a douche and play the game

Or are you gonna experience a rope around your neck.

I feel the contempt is unnatural. I mean, the natural process is fos -> scum tunnel -> 1 v 1. It's not pissed off -> 1 v 1.

So why the drunk is important? 157 is troubling me. If he's sober, then I will not expect the "Or are you gonna experience a rope around your neck." because he's sober?

part 1 of 3

[Realeo]

But Transcend argued that he's his playing style. Maybe his an exception?

But I don't buy it.

Transcend has been gut-saying "Realeo is town", "Shamu is town".

I pinned him as happy-go-lucky not saddy-go-grumpy. I believe that if a player believe that he is a gutsy player, he will less likely to be stubborn.

I think town can violate his own logic. Human is subjective and at the end a composite of fallacious error. But I don't think town will violate his own mood.

Unless his drunkness violates his own mood.

So I believe that I have a solved case, but the drunkness is important. If I fail to explain it, the whole case falls down.

part 2 of 3

[Realeo]

In addition to that, I think Shamu is town.

(snip)

But beyond that I'd like to go into the verdith - transcend thing.

This is, actually very strange to me. But for some reason I feel like verdith is dead serious? While normally I'd just ignore this and move forward, I think he actually believes that transcend is scum...

and in this case transcend, the powertown is going to absolutely destroy verdith.
even when transcend is scum he's powertown.

I hope people will elaborate more on reads outside of verdith/scend. It was nice having some new blood posting but when it's just the same people it's kinda hard to do things.

This may be the most confusing thing I've ever said in a game ever but...

I just had deja vu about this game.

And I feel like BTD6 is going to carry it.

That was weird as fuck to say but like for some god awful reason I had deja vu?????



beyond that, I have made reads - I'm sorry that I haven't formatted it in a rainbow shaped funnel down to the bottom.
Like - I think any read I have is both implied and practical. And if you don't see that than whatever, I'll care more if more people find the need to ask.

This is a progression that I expect from town. Confronted against it, I expect the first thing that town would face is confusion and not anger. A town will try to solve his confusion first before anything else.

shamu does not exactly shout TOWN, but he spared from d1.

part 3 of 3

[Realeo]

Sooo. What's contempt?

contempt

[Realeo]

If you want to make a point that you are now sober, I would expect a shift towards calmer, more rational analysis than what Transcend posted.

That is part of my argument.

It's also wrong since 1v1's come out of extreme confidence.

I do not believe this

per se

. A tunnel, yes, extreme confindence. Judging from my experience, a 1 v 1 usually has an additional part of contempt. Unfortunately, this part is an ongoing game.

[Realeo]

Guys, lynch deadline in 4 days...

VOTE: transcend

[Realeo]

VOTE: key

[Realeo]

Wee!

Ok. Key makes me confuzed. Io, help me senpai!

[Realeo]

Only because of the self though

[Realeo]

Boo, I need you though. We're looking to lynch WW, not you.

So let me buddy the crap up to you for now?

VOTE: io

Is this bad?

wot

[Realeo]

I have as much case as anyone right now.
Common sense is my only advantage here. The kill was a newb kill.
This takes all you, Titus, Real and Io out of the WW night kill for me.

Thank you for the compliment.

Not WW;
Me
Titus
You
Io
Real
Probably not BTD

Not Scum
Me
You More than likely
Most likely not Titus
Probably not BTD

I'm trying to understand how you classify the not scum? I had made a perfect read at mafia v sk before, but not mafia A v mafia B. I'm trying to understand the progress of you townreading Transcend...

I mean, I saw this.

You're probably not Mafia, and you are never WW.
(I am thought processing as I type, hence the change).

Want to make sure that it's not for granted.

[Realeo]

shamu seems political?? shamu made good arguments on being town but seems too early for AtE??

RESIST. THE. TEMPTATION. TO. META.

[Realeo]

after leading on WW as such.

You mean your bussing that back fired?

With that, I call for VPA.

[Realeo]

Shamu, Kyouko, DBW, Io, Realeo, key, Transcend...

Surprisingly, nobody backed off or unvoted in certain pattern showing uncertainty.

And Vedith..

VOTE: Transcend

Let's try.

VOTE: keyenpeydee

anyone need context for this or?

also I dunno what's up with tenshii - I wish it was easier for me to look at more posts while I type this up.

This is not a bus attempt. That vote stayed for 100 posts.

Given the casualness of the wagon, I don't think there is ww there.

[Realeo]

My finger will be on either Tenshii or BTD. BTD seems non-commital?

VOTE: BTD

For now, I assume that burgerking is non-existent and by the power of prod, he soon willl be replaced.

[Realeo]

I disagree.
Shamu voted where it was safe to, and then got in too deep with everyone else joining.
Between Shamu voting, too many people jumped on the wagon - Unvoting would have brought too much attention.
The only comment after the vote is 258 everything else is trying to push else where. By the point of 258 too many votes on Shamu.

If not Shamu, it's more than likely Tenshii.

My only problem with this argumentation is why Shamu doesn't deserve the benefit of doubt(Shamu starting the wagon) when Tenshii receives the benefit of doubt(explicitly rejecting to hammer)?

Like, Shamu does not react well? Elaborate.

[Realeo]

Shamu posts noting apart from 1 comment after the vote and then after the hammer says it's a good hammer but tries to point to the slot possibly being town.

WRONG.

Very happy with this hammer by the way

Although apparently self voting is a town thing (?)

shamu never imply that. He was questioning the general consensus.

[Realeo]

Like, that fucking question mark was sandwhiched by the bracket. How come you miss it when you reply to it!

Very happy with this hammer by the way

Although apparently self voting is a town thing (?)

It's a 50/50.
I don't think it was a terrible hammer, but not my prefered.
He looked more frustrated scum that town anyway.
A self hammer would have made me think town more than scum.

[Realeo]

SO IT'S SHOWING DOUBT STILL YOU FUCKING FLAMINGO!

[Realeo]

Shamu was trying to show doubt on the read.

What's the problem of showing doubt?

Idiots. Why rush.
He's flipping scum 9/10 but Trans was the better option.
His wagon resistance makes me believe Mafia more.

Where's the 1/10? Doubt?

Gfto Vedith.

[Realeo]

I hate you both. :<

Come back when you have something that is not THAT conspirational. I mean, imagination is good, but even I can land back and return to real life

[Realeo]

Apparently me and Transcend is only 2 days different in joining date.

[Realeo]

Spoiler: For old memories

---

Other players, you're allowed to join the avatar game or insert new analysis (or ideally both)

[Realeo]

Pretty sure that sexual joke is outside the rule..

Let us get back to the game.

What do you think of Tenshii? Iso, I don't see scum!Tenshii..

[Realeo]

Isn't McDonalds better than BurgerKing? Hmmm...

Key posted this while Realeo was at L-3. I think Key got scared of the potential Realeo lynch and attempted to counterwagon. I don't see why as WW he needs to counterwagon unless Realeo is his partner.

VOTE: Realeo

You are accusing me for something that happens during RVS?

[Realeo]

I was about to vote tenshii - but apparantly he's a town slot?

If you disagree, show your disagreement with a vote.

[Realeo]

Like, you don't need a permission as a town to do his town duty, assuming you are town.

[Realeo]

Let us remember that there is a seer. We don't have to hit werewolf. Let us put faith on our seer and assume competency.

I want to see some development on mafia read. Too many emphasis on werewolf today.

[Realeo]

That being said, I, until now, still amazed by people who can call "he is mafia not ww!" or "he is ww not mafia"

I can't read people's extreme confidence.

[Realeo]

why, realeo, that's a great idea!

u may bestow the dog avatar for however long u please.

[Realeo]

Titus, I am surprised you haven't explain your Io read.

[Realeo]

Titus, I am surprised you haven't explain your Io read.

And I am even more surprised that Io does not press for it..

Lo and Titus for mafia? #ClassicScumTell #ScumTooCasual

VOTE: Lo (Io)

Spoiler: Lo?

From now on, that's my nickname for anti-town!Io

[Realeo]

Took me some time to understand the joke until I scroll up. =D

[Realeo]

VOTE: Lo

Cuz nobody believes in my Realeo read.

Does no one see how scummy this is? He votes me without reason, sheeping his scum read, and

the fact that I've already said

I think Realeo is scum agreeing with him.
Literally he ignores every part of his own reads.
There is no way that can be town.

Lo just failed the lie detector test. You never said I am scum agreeing with Tenshii. The only recollection of your word was Tenshii spent 1/4 of his iso on me.

[Realeo]

I was going to unvote Lo because I because it turned out that she didn't challenge my read? Apprarently Io not asking fos read on him is a play style? So I can't generalize the classic scum tell?

But that lie detector though

[Realeo]

VOTE: Lo

Cuz nobody believes in my Realeo read.

Does no one see how scummy this is? He votes me without reason, sheeping his scum read,

and the fact that I've already said I think Realeo is scum agreeing with him.
Literally he ignores every part of his own reads.
There is no way that can be town.

But I completely agree with this..

[Realeo]

@Mod: Can you change the color from the post above from blue to purple? I thought modcolor is purple so I use blue.

No. I refuse

[Realeo]

God. An inactive player join the funk.

Like, explain your shit.

[Realeo]

Are you the kind of people who if got accused or the accused defend himself, she never follows up?

[Realeo]

Can you put that question into a readable format because that literally makes no sense after reading it 3 times.

You gave me an accusation.

OK but seriously PLing Vedith aside Realeo is scum.

VOTE: Realeo

I didn't like his response to be wagoned pregame and early d1 and pushed to stop RVS when he was being voted in it.
Also the jumping on the wagon of Verdith when clearly me and Trans weren't even being remotely serious is highly suspect of just bandwagoning especially with his push to get out of RVS early on.
Talking about #44 with him wanting to end RVS by the way. First line in it.

I defended it.

I didn't like his response to be wagoned pregame and early d1 and pushed to stop RVS when he was being voted in it.
Also the jumping on the wagon of Verdith when clearly me and Trans weren't even being remotely serious is highly suspect of just bandwagoning especially with his push to get out of RVS early on.

1. No one is being lynched pre-game so no need to worry.

2. I don't understand your accusation of my early d1 wagon reaction. Elaborate.

3. But I am being serious on the Vedith wagon. This is not his town play and whether you are in the wagon or not is not the consideration. The explanation is an ongoing game, however.

How do I know what is your current status (accusing me) if you don't rebuttal my rebuttal? If you say nothing, I assume that rebuttal accepted.
UNVOTE:

[Realeo]

Something is wrong with Titus-Io-Tenshii dynamic.

[Realeo]

To be precise, Titus-Io-Tenshii-Realeo dynamic.

[Realeo]

To be precise, Titus-Io-Tenshii-Realeo dynamic.

And what is the dynamic?

I was trying to wrap this around my head.

Titus attacks Io?

Spoiler: quote

Hey Io, I think you or Tenshii should be lynched.

Io does not bother with Titus reasoning???

Spoiler: quote

Hey Io, I think you or Tenshii should be lynched.

Don't you always?
You should probably know I disagree with half your assessment.

Tensii would be either WW or town. He's probably not Mafia since he was dead set on Trans being scum pushing a mislynch. That Twilight being 9% sure it was a mislynch also points to either town or WW overreacting to his buddy being lynched. I don't think he can be mafia at all though with how much he tunneled Trans day 1.

Titus agrees with Io?

Spoiler: Quote

VOTE: Tensii

This is right.

At this point, I can see that Titus agrees with Io about his assessment at Tenshii. That makes sense. But I was having problem understanding the asssesment why Tenshii > Io.

Io see this as a town. Understandable.

Spoiler: quote

Yeah Titus is town.
At least he has the right priorities. Definitely not the WW that's for sure.

I'm gonna narrow down the WW pool as much as I can.
Tensii is on there for the end of d1 like I said just now.
Shamu's opening few posts I'm thinking are from a scum. I can't really tell which scum team it would be from. They are really playing up the newbie card which is something I did my first game as scum and worked pretty well for me so I find it scummy now.
BTD and Realo are the only other 2 on that list. Mostly for the fact I actually can't get a read on them with their high volume of useless posts. BTD never voted for Key though so I'd put him as higher on the likely to be WW list.

That list is in order of people I think are WW. Also got a good feeling 2-3 of those are in a scum team. Maybe not all 4, I'm not a god.

VOTE: Tensii

At this point, some ideas are only taken for granted, but no big logic loop.

Tenshii comes in?

Spoiler: quote

I had to reread because I didn't remember anything about this game.

I think the NK implied WW interpreted Kyouko's early posts as a town slip, and possibly a Seer slip I guess. There weren't any townreads by Kyouko so this is the only conclusion I can come too. I don't really see why this is a newb kill.

I don't understand why Titus is being TR'd.

I think we should hit WW today. I think since Key was playing pretty cautiously/scared, his interactions point to the WW pool probably being {Chicken/Titus, BTD, Realeo}

Isn't McDonalds better than BurgerKing? Hmmm...

Key posted this while Realeo was at L-3. I think Key got scared of the potential Realeo lynch and attempted to counterwagon. I don't see why as WW he needs to counterwagon unless Realeo is his partner.

VOTE: Realeo

Tensii would be either WW or town. He's probably not Mafia since he was dead set on Trans being scum pushing a mislynch. That Twilight being 9% sure it was a mislynch also points to either town or WW overreacting to his buddy being lynched. I don't think he can be mafia at all though with how much he tunneled Trans day 1.

Wait what? I don't remember tunneling on Trans. And I don't understand how you got the conlcusion of your last sentence at all.

Io and Titus buddying

Spoiler: Quotes

The VCs suggest you wanted Trans really dead. Is that not the case?

A good quarter of your ISO was dedicated to Trans. First part was all about Realeo but you dropped that and switched to Trans.

I was having problem understanding this. It is true that for Titus, Tenshii > Io. But isn't Io still Titus scumread? Buddying is normal, but a scumread buddying the person scumreading is a little bit confusing?

I don't know how to exactly spell this out. Language barrier.

Enter Titus explaining why Tenshii is scum to Tenshii. Tenshii don't get it?

Enter Tenshii awkward move to vote Io.

SO WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE WEIRD DYNAMIC? Next wall post.

[Realeo]

SO WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE WEIRD DYNAMIC

1. Titus later explained that he beleives in a {Io,Transcend} scum. This is consistent. The one that is confusing is the decision to flip from Io to Titus? What was the basis. Both of them is equally scum, eh? WW and Mafia? Is the {Io,Transcend} only came after progress?

2. IO jumped the logic twice. The first is the minor one where he didn't ask for Titus' reasoning. The second was this.

You never bus a 2 scum team. That should be just common sense rule #1 of Mafia. You will just lose if you bus your partner with only 2 players.

Yeah I don't get it. Saying it's just common sense or you'll lose isn't an actual justifcation. Also by using the 2 scum team bus logic, isn't this comparable to the White Flag Gambit?

Tenshii did a well done rebuttal there.

I don't remember Io is the kind of person who is taking things for granted???

SO WHAT AM I TRYING TO WRAP AGAINST MY BRAIN?

I was trying permutation like {Io:Town, Tenshii: Town, Titus:Mafia} or {Io: Mafia, Tenshii: Town, Titus:Werewolf} but it just doesn't click? I cannot find the right combination.

[Realeo]

So to clarify, you have that read from the get go?

Understandisimida.

[Realeo]

Shamu? Explanation?

[Realeo]

Realeo is no longer a townread

Reason: not being a dog

Did Real scum claim?

Yeah, this is a forced joke.

[Realeo]

I assume that "I did not understand the entire second point" as a joak.

[Realeo]

Wait...

HOW EXACTLY DOES YOUR BRAIN WORK?

[Realeo]

I will explain later but there is a high chance that Io v Tenshii is a T v T.

[Realeo]

So I am catching a literal train. So let me explain it.

When we make an isolated analysis on Lo, I agree that Lo is scum.

When we make an isolated analysis on Tenshii, I can understand why people think Tenshii is scum. I think Tenshii is town but I understand the perspective of those who scum read him.

The problem is, when I put 2 and 2 together. It just feels weird?

So let us ask this. What is the current status of werewolf. If I were a werewolf, I would play more cautiously. I will treat myself as I were a serial killer. Too towny, I would lose the end game. Too scummy, I would lose early.

I don't think the word "cautious" describes either Io or Tenshii? Io has been blantant with her read and Tenshii is being reckless with his vote...

I don't buy there's a ww in Io-Tenshii block. I would be flabergasted if Io v Tenshii is a mafia theater.

So my final instinct is at least 1 mafia in a block. But I am having hard time to pin which one. I pinpoint Io logic jumping and the fact that only Io protesting about it means I was not hallucinating? The problem is, Io seems genuinely confused with the situation. Tenshii also genuinely lost as well with the argument?

Unless one of them is an expert at faking confusion, I think Io v Tenshii is a T v T.

[Realeo]

Dude, under that analysis we should be lynching you for being the WW or just lynching Political Clout for being a lurk sack.

That being said, that makes zero sense.

The targets look confused, so it must be T v T.

We're still at the point where all factions are scumhunting.

Why would me the WW? How in the whole world the POE lands on me?

[Realeo]

But yeah, I'm still confused by the multiple faction thingy.

[Realeo]

@shamu: Why mafia!Titus?

[Realeo]

Hey Transcend. Remind me why you townread Tenshii??

[Realeo]

Hey Vedith. Same question as well!

[Realeo]

Shaddup. Serious question.

[Realeo]

And Io don't?

I mean, I agree that Io logic is sloppy but I thought his sloppiness is genuine?

Idk. Give me an explanation why Tenshii passed the test why Io don't. I don't see the discriminating reason.

[Realeo]

Ding!

10 points!

I was testing... He.He.

Explain your Io vote then.

[Realeo]

I am not buddying? I buddy Trans hard especially with the dog avi joke?

What distinct me with Io?

[Realeo]

BTD. Can I have your stand please?

[Realeo]

@Tenshii: Since get go I said BTD. He responded with "Why I should be commital?". Well, fair enough. But with people keep towning up and he's V/LAing up, I have to settle with POE read.

[Realeo]

@Tenshii: Since get go I said BTD. He responded with "Why I should be commital?". Well, fair enough. But with people keep towning up and he's V/LAing up, I have to settle with POE read.

I have to add that I am not comfortable with Vedith and Transcend. But this is more to "pissed off" instead of "getting scummy aura", although I do get the "aura"

[Realeo]

@Tenshii: Since get go I said BTD. He responded with "Why I should be commital?". Well, fair enough. But with people keep towning up and he's V/LAing up, I have to settle with POE read.

I have to add that I am not comfortable with Vedith and Transcend. But this is more to "pissed off" instead of "getting scummy aura", although I do get the "aura"

Now I think this again...

VOTE: Vedith

[Realeo]

I will explain later or tommorow but this maybe my d2 vote.

[Realeo]

But the more I think...maybe Io is town after all?? I think I downgrade from "Io is scum but it doesn't make sense" to "Io is town"..

[Realeo]

Nah

So yay for Vedith?

[Realeo]

Yea

Follow me then.

[Realeo]

No

Thank you for finally giving a reason to tr you d2

[Realeo]

Well then we have an issue. The Seer can just check on of the 2 and find out which is the wolf then we just lynch Mafia today.

VOTE: Trans

Since when you scumread Trans?

[Realeo]

Given the demography, a near-consensus that Io is anti-town and somewhat popular opinion that Tenshii is wolf, I am up to Io deadline lynch.

[Realeo]

Can I asume your competency Flubbernugget and not just replace in and replace out?

[Realeo]

Despite having no clue what that's supposed to mean I can still tell you're being a dick

Ah no.

If you read the whole game, you will understand that we're pretty much flustered the constant replacement. You will see it.

[Realeo]

Especially your slot, Flubbernugger. Your slot, is kinda special.

[Realeo]

Given the demography, a near-consensus that Io is anti-town and somewhat popular opinion that Tenshii is wolf, I am up to Io deadline lynch.

So, you don't want a wolf lynch today?

I don't buy the "it is going to be a wolf". Yes, she is in wolf list but she is a wolf when you dont compare other is a nope.

[Realeo]

Given the demography, a near-consensus that Io is anti-town and somewhat popular opinion that Tenshii is wolf, I am up to Io deadline lynch.

So, you don't want a wolf lynch today?

I don't buy the "it is going to be a wolf". Yes, she is in wolf list but she is a wolf when you dont compare other is a nope.

I mean, seriously though.

Your logic is this. The wagon is unlikely to have a ww bus. So your logic is looking for counter wagon? Tenshii started the counter wagon.

The probability that you are correct is only 68%. Do you have further reasoning on this point?

How did you get 68%?

VOTE: Shamu

WHICH HAPPENS IN PAGE 2 AND WE JUST HAPPEN WHEN WE EXIT THE RVS!

I mean, say this to yourself. Slowly. Yeah, extreme reach, right?

So naturallly, I will downgrade the read from ww!Tenshii to mafia!Tenshii, right? Not in this case. Your case is exclusively to werewolf, which I find ridiculous, but you present no case that mafia!Tenshii and I townread Tenshii (at certain point so let me iso my self back later on. I remember why but not when and what.) so Tenshii lynch is out.

VOTE: Io

[Realeo]

L-1

[Realeo]

I'm going to be honest my last post was just me typing something up without adding content to the game, at this point whatever I was thinking by not hammering has not been here. While I wanted more from the two new slots at this point I'm wondering if just hammering will be telling.

Also just something of notice - Io isn't really fighting hard even though by all means she should be as the lynch?

I think I'll be able to add more later, I guess I'll go with

Intent to hammer

This is the most confusing "intent to hammer"

[Realeo]

How come bk is not prod?

[Realeo]

btw light/realeo and shamu played really well and i tip my hat. not really sure why realeo subbed out when i'm sure no one would've lynched him ever. in fact my tr on that slot started dissipating quite a bit.

I had a fight with Vedith. LQ know this.

[Realeo]

Seer was supposed to vote first...

and tell everyone to vote with them....

That's terrible play. Conftown votes last in lylo.

That is assuming that the conftown is not blitzed first.

[Realeo]

btw light/realeo and shamu played really well and i tip my hat. not really sure why realeo subbed out when i'm sure no one would've lynched him ever. in fact my tr on that slot started dissipating quite a bit.

I had a fight with Vedith. LQ know this.

in this game or an ongoing game?

The fight is an ongoing game.

[Realeo]

Tbh, when Trenscand confbias at me, the only thing I need to do is to seal the game is to make shamu is also townread and hope the best that Transcend is neither killed or werewolf, since he cannot be lynched due to massive activity.

[Realeo]

Tbh, when Trenscand confbias at me, the only thing I need to do is to seal the game is to make shamu is also townread and hope the best that Transcend is neither killed or werewolf, since he cannot be lynched due to massive activity.

Just as long as you don't put this game on your wiki, I think that is just fine.

Y? Meta?

The game or the comment?

[Realeo]

Oh, that one.

[Realeo]

Oh, that one.

What do you mean, "that one?" I was talking about this game.

The that is refering to my wikia. I wasn't even thinking about my wikia.

[Realeo]

That's a caring of you. =D