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[Transcend]

Please stop voting this mislynch

Holy fuck you morons

Gerryoat is

P r o b a b l y

Town

[XnadrojX]

Nice probably.

thanks Josh

[XnadrojX]

Ugh
UNVOTE: Josh
Agh i just dont feel that anyone is scummy.

[XnadrojX]

I'll probably go through a few ISOs and reread the thread later over the weekend I was kinda disconnected from this game for a while, I'll just get back into it over the next few daya

[kraska77]

Hey nadragdthv vote ssbm with me

[kraska77]

Also I'll do proper catchup after weekend is over

[XnadrojX]

VOTE: MTD

Briefly skimming thru the thread, this is the person I feel most comfortable on

[kraska77]

Seriously? With ssbm and mykonian around, you still feel most comfortable about lynching mtd?

[Road Kamelot]

I dunno myks p scum but MTD could also be scum
I want a votecount im sorta lost on the votes atm. Also kyoukos town kraska
Transcend is still town :P

[kraska77]

Also kyoukos town kraska

Why

If mykonian flips town, mtd is maybe suspect but generally nothing about his posting stands out to me so I don't see why xnadgshh thinks popping out yet another vanity wagon is helpful at this point

[XnadrojX]

Well mykonian doesn't feel scum to me and neither does ssbm. MTD feels scum to me

[Road Kamelot]

Errant i dont like u voting Jordan after that one post esp after saying gamma is good pressure and that mykonian isnt a gr8 wagon
What are you seeing that im not seeing bc jordan looks plenty town

Pedit MTD gives me the jeebies kraska
kyouko is town bc of their response to my vote

jordan what makes someone feel scum to you

[XnadrojX]

Uh I look at their posts, and just MTD gives me the feel like he just needs people dead. Lemme go quote them

[Road Kamelot]

Most insidious scum do not let their killing intent leak out
the mark of a true evil warrior
this is 100% true i watched an anime one time

[XnadrojX]

Spoiler: Pretty much a whole bunch of stuff between these posts feel off

Also i am afraid i will have to find someone whose read on transcend i can copy.
His playstyle so far annoys me greatly and i dont think i can be objective enough with that.

I mostly agree with myko on josh, although i think most of his current way of playing does come from other places' meta.

Potato potato. I didn't misrep anyrhing, do you know what reactive devaluation is? And why is gamma allowed to get away with a master plan of seeing if I contribute? Of course I'll go on, what do you want me to do, stop playing and start getting into a pointless back and fourth with mykonian? Maria says my read post is bad for the reason it's bad and nobody comments on it? So many questions, the only real answer is I'm almost positive there's 1-2 scum in mykonian gamma and gerry, and you morons lynching me is a stupid mislynch that should not happen and you'll regret later but at least it'll teach me my place here or is that an ate that makes me obvious scum omg lynch me I scum slipped!!!

All I can say is you guys have weird methodologies, no clue why transcend is so sure I'm town but props

Oh I do know what reactive devaluation is. That has nothing to do with what i am talking about though.

In your post you claim myko still had a scumread on gamma.
Myko points out that was not the case and asks you to actually read his posts.
You claim you did read them.

This leaves three options:
a) You read the posts and understood them, but decided to lie.
b) You read them and didnt understand them.
c) You lied about reading them.

None of those leaves you in particularly good light.

Gives me more of the "I don't want to be scumread, scumread that other dude" feel than the "I'm a Townie he's the scum" feel.

[XnadrojX]

And if I'm wrong, I learn through failure I guess

[Road Kamelot]

Ehhh im not rly on board w that logic but i remembered 483 rly sucked so

Still myk wagon is fun wagon i aint leaving it w/o a good reason

[kraska77]

Player List:
mykonian-calling half the playerlist scum and changing votes every 2 pages...I have trouble believing his reads are even remotely genuine. But then again his play is screaming scum...if he's scum hes def not putting any efforts into hiding it.. which is why I feel more comfortable with a ssbm lynch today
MTD-mean town
Errantparabola-town mostly for his early posts...I fit dig the switch from myko to gamma
Road Kamelot- obvious town
Transcend rep. Kane- no clue lol.......
gigabyteTroubadour rep. Rem- town
kraska77
Joshz- obvious town
ssbm_Kyouko- get rope
XnadrojX- I like his posts on this page....town lean
MariaR- lean scum
gerryoat- unreadable useless slot...someone vig this before it makes it to lylo
Gamma Emerald- town

[kraska77]

Mtd lean* town

[kraska77]

Errantparabola-town mostly for his early posts...I fit dig the switch from myko to gamma

I dont* dig

[Road Kamelot]

kraska noooo too scummy to be scum dont fall into that trap
Also why do u dig the switch from myko to gamma when u think myko is super scummy looking and gamma is town

Pedit OH lol nvm <3

[Errantparabola]

uh fuck here's a phonepost prodge

proceeds to wallpost like a champion

I have response to your "myko is buddying" arg and justifications for a general myko townread but i'll see what myko says to it
My stance on myko has started on an early townread. I became less confident in that townread as time went on and considered him a someone i'd like to priority sort. it's back to townread now. I never really supported a myko wagon.

Why could I not be a day 1 lynch if I'm scum?

this is an ugly sentence. that whole post and josh vote is awful.
and to respond to you josh-- the process of lynching someone often yields information along the way. lynches are not fast. they put a person under the spotlight and unless the person just crumbles and folds, then there are going to be some interactions.

I am 75% sure mykonian is scum and 70% gamma is. They're bigger scum reads that also have bigger payoff if they do flip town. Risk = lower and reward = higher, not rocket science zz

this is an INSANE amount of confidence for a DOUBLE scumread here and makes me less confident in how genuine i think it is, so walk me through what makes you so confident about these two being scum.

Errant i dont like u voting Jordan after that one post esp after saying gamma is good pressure and that mykonian isnt a gr8 wagon
What are you seeing that im not seeing bc jordan looks plenty town

Pedit MTD gives me the jeebies kraska
kyouko is town bc of their response to my vote

jordan what makes someone feel scum to you

its actually hard to say. somewhere between giga's post (where in response I mentioned gamma being a good vote) and the jordan vote, i think a combination of things happened.

i internalized a reluctance to go after gamma because of people tying gamma scum and mykonian scum-- I think that at this point in the game, that sort of logic is a lot fishier than anything gamma's posted so far. giga, jordan, josh, some others maybe. yeah, its illogical but a lot of people pressuring gamma right now are people that i'm uncomfortable with and that makes me a little uncomfortable pushing gamma.

also jordan made bad posts. I'll give MTD and maybe a few others a look-over later.

[Errantparabola]

kraska noooo too scummy to be scum dont fall into that trap

NOTE: the following post is not something i'm applying to anything game relevant currently but I thought it so I'll say it, because I think this kind of thing a lot in games. So there's a chance it'll come up later.

I think it's interesting that "too scummy to be scum" is seen as a trap by people.
Its definitely applied wrongly in a lot of instances.
However, mafia is ultimately a game that incentivizes disingenuous town play. If people are naturally wishy-washy or not confident or display one of many many traits that are seen as "scummy" then people try to hide that. But many people come to mind as "natural lynchbait" (skybird immediately comes to mind) because they never develop any persona that serves as a town presence, and i think the trick is to develop certain ways of reading those people, and part of that is to understand that, yes, some people are really scummy and that's not scum.

that's all.

[Transcend]

Nadr is playing too carefully imo

[gerryoat]

Something seems off about me and yet Gerry's joining the same wagon as me TYEERYREXYR5XUY5

Yes, how does it make you feel that your scumread is voting the person you're voting?

Shouldn't I be asking you this question

I already outed why I'm voting him and i didn't care if you were voting him or not. I'm saying how do you feel about me, your scumread, following the person you're voting. Answer and don't deflect please.