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I want to know what people found scummy on me cause this is sounding REALLY familiar to the game where I was obv af town and one person outted a sr and it slowly became a thing
I want all 3 of you to answer btw it'd help sort my sr's and nul lreads outI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I on the other hand can't get over how bad the votes
onmyko were.
very much looks like a scum driven wagon.still the same old MTD- MariaR
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Join the gamma wagon we got cookiesIn post 602, MTD wrote:I on the other hand can't get over how bad the votes
onmyko were.
very much looks like a scum driven wagon.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Why are you trusting me on transcend town but disagreeing w literally every other one of my reads????In post 601, MTD wrote:Ok, i'll trust rk on transcend town.
I believe myko is town.
i want to lynch ssbm or josh at the moment, but i have only skimmed nadroj so far, i'll get back to that later today
Again why are you trusting me when my myko vote is so badIn post 602, MTD wrote:I on the other hand can't get over how bad the votes
onmyko were.
very much looks like a scum driven wagon.Reflect on yourself in the heat of passion to reveal what the cold eye of logic sees not.-
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I mean, is it? If it's anything below 50 it's not a scum read to me, a slight scum lean would be like 60 and a strong would follow up from there.In post 571, Errantparabola wrote:
proceeds to wallpost like a championIn post 534, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:uh fuck here's a phonepost prodge
I have response to your "myko is buddying" arg and justifications for a general myko townread but i'll see what myko says to it
My stance on myko has started on an early townread. I became less confident in that townread as time went on and considered him a someone i'd like to priority sort. it's back to townread now. I never really supported a myko wagon.
this is an ugly sentence. that whole post and josh vote is awful.In post 545, XnadrojX wrote:Why could I not be a day 1 lynch if I'm scum?
and to respond to you josh-- the process of lynching someone often yields information along the way. lynches are not fast. they put a person under the spotlight and unless the person just crumbles and folds, then there are going to be some interactions.
this is an INSANE amount of confidence for a DOUBLE scumread here and makes me less confident in how genuine i think it is, so walk me through what makes you so confident about these two being scum.In post 549, Joshz wrote:I am 75% sure mykonian is scum and 70% gamma is. They're bigger scum reads that also have bigger payoff if they do flip town. Risk = lower and reward = higher, not rocket science zz
its actually hard to say. somewhere between giga's post (where in response I mentioned gamma being a good vote) and the jordan vote, i think a combination of things happened.In post 561, Road Kamelot wrote:Errant i dont like u voting Jordan after that one post esp after saying gamma is good pressure and that mykonian isnt a gr8 wagon
What are you seeing that im not seeing bc jordan looks plenty town
Pedit MTD gives me the jeebies kraska
kyouko is town bc of their response to my vote
jordan what makes someone feel scum to you
i internalized a reluctance to go after gamma because of people tying gamma scum and mykonian scum-- I think that at this point in the game, that sort of logic is a lot fishier than anything gamma's posted so far. giga, jordan, josh, some others maybe. yeah, its illogical but a lot of people pressuring gamma right now are people that i'm uncomfortable with and that makes me a little uncomfortable pushing gamma.
also jordan made bad posts. I'll give MTD and maybe a few others a look-over later.
I still feel Jordan idle a really easy scum push so far and a lynch on him is too easy. His iso is p bad, his votes are p bad, but imo they're too scummy for him to be scum if that makes any sense at all.-
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On one hand I want to say MTD's posts have felt like they're trying too hard to be townie and aren't genuine, but I've scum read almost everyone else who's voted me so I'll leave it for now.
Along my jordan logic I am pretty sure at least one of the people pushing me is scum, because I'm new here and I look like an easy target and then they cop out "oh well he looked scummy my bad!?!" The difference is from my other experience via tos I know how noobs are used as easy buffers and that's why the first couple people to go after me and Jordan look significantly worse to me. Jordan especially because in a vacuum he does look scum, I agree with that, so he's a really easy push. I take back getting no info from lynching him at least because idr the first 2 chronologically to wagon him but I'd be willing to bet 1 of those 2 is scum.
On another note: can someone tell me if we are likely to have a jailor and a mayor?-
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I dont think you are an idiot.In post 604, Road Kamelot wrote:
Why are you trusting me on transcend town but disagreeing w literally every other one of my reads????In post 601, MTD wrote:Ok, i'll trust rk on transcend town.
I believe myko is town.
i want to lynch ssbm or josh at the moment, but i have only skimmed nadroj so far, i'll get back to that later today
Again why are you trusting me when my myko vote is so badIn post 602, MTD wrote:I on the other hand can't get over how bad the votes
onmyko were.
very much looks like a scum driven wagon.
I disagree with almost all of your reads, yes, but that is likely to not always be the case throughout the game. I see no reason why your other reads should be reasons to distrust this one unless another one of your reads is directly conditional to your transcend read.
I didnt have the impression that was the case, but if it is, please tell me.still the same old MTD- Gamma Emerald
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Define the first oneIn post 607, Joshz wrote:On one hand I want to say MTD's posts have felt like they're trying too hard to be townie and aren't genuine, but I've scum read almost everyone else who's voted me so I'll leave it for now.
Along my jordan logic I am pretty sure at least one of the people pushing me is scum, because I'm new here and I look like an easy target and then they cop out "oh well he looked scummy my bad!?!" The difference is from my other experience via tos I know how noobs are used as easy buffers and that's why the first couple people to go after me and Jordan look significantly worse to me. Jordan especially because in a vacuum he does look scum, I agree with that, so he's a really easy push. I take back getting no info from lynching him at least because idr the first 2 chronologically to wagon him but I'd be willing to bet 1 of those 2 is scum.
On another note: can someone tell me if we are likely to have a jailor and a mayor?
Governor is likely not here<Embrace The Void>
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you can find which roles are likely to appear here: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Gamestill the same old MTD- gigabyteTroubadour
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lmao really gamma??In post 612, Gamma Emerald wrote:Jailor is not a role on this site.
also mayor is called doublevoter here, we definitely don't have one tho.
usually for CSes we don't claim D1 because there isn't a set strategy like there is for open/semi-open setups. exception is if someone has a negative utility role (e.g., miller, ascetic)
but it's usually not a good idea to speculate about roles in general D1
gonna catch up later today thoi no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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ehm, what? What about Jordans votes has been reasonable?
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sorry myko for the hard-to-quote format
I don't understand why you wouldn't want to get a feel for multiple players? If you're town you should be trying to sort every slot besides your own.In post 343, mykonian wrote:I am not like you. Gamma is also not the person I'd need to get a feel for, it's kamelot in this case, they are the active personality.
I disagree that people would have a set path for when specific tells would come into play... but i mean i respect the fact you at least have personal experience hereIn post 343, mykonian wrote:I have had a couple of proper newbie games as IC actually, the longwinded lie tell tends to come in a little later as people get a bit more confidence in playing scum, or if they are under attack somehow, that can push people into overexplaining. Here, I don't really get that feel. I get where you come from, but what's the cool term nowadays? NAI? It feels playstyle based rather than allignment, but we can see how that develops. Currently doesn't ring any alarms for me.
i guess it's NAI on its own, but like... it still pings me because a lot of his posts are +1'ing other people, which generally doesn't need a lot of explanation behind it. do you disagree that it looks like he's trying to look like he's contributing? I'm starting to lose my scumread of the slot personally, because a few of his later posts felt townie, but i don't townread him either. Where are you now in sorting him?
the problem with lynchbait is that people are too willing to lower the bar sometimes... but like my issue with you and gamma is that you didn't lower the bar until RK called you out for your push on him, which makes the thought process to you making that value call seem inorganic.In post 343, mykonian wrote:Eh, if you know he's a bit lynchbaity, you adjust the calibration, imo. You somehow have to discern town lynchbait from scum lynchbait. As for the association, right now, you could see it in there, it's a judgement call if you feel RK is a bit too far on Gamma's side and lets go of some suspicion that they might be scum after all altogether. However, if there's a flip, that crystallizes it, at that point, yes, I think it's rather obvious. That is not a scum-scum interaction from a solid, but newer player on MS. RK doesn't strike me as a particulary gambitty player, hence solid.
as for the associations, i'm glad you at least agree that it's not a SvS dynamic there
You don't think his stubbornness is town stubbornness though? Also, I don't think you would be able to get into his position as scum because a portion of it comes from being new (and not being useless,In post 343, mykonian wrote:I've kicked up my share of dust, didn't change his engagement. Calling him out only made him stubborn. For me, if I were scum, I'd love to get away with the position he currently is in, and he's getting away with it. So it's not just frustration, it's also that if he's scum, I want him out in the open.xnadr).
Spoiler: ketchup
needs to talk to me because my townread on her slot is going ... kyouko is not the scummiest person in the game and we need to sort that shit out tbh.Kraska "kraskos" "kranksa" Seventy Seven
also there's questions in that spoiler to various people that i don't feel like extracting yet. maybe later. i feel exceptionally lazy this game dunno why
should i towncase josh btw because i s2g if someone else votes for him i'm going to scream??? he's super obvtown and actually sheepable (which is pretty sick for a newbie imo). i just... don't get the push on him at all.i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess
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Even on PS! it's called Jailkeeper.In post 616, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:oh woah
yeah that's the tos jailer oops
i assumed he was talking about PS! roles sorryShowTranscend: His name is Jordan backwards, just call him Jordan.
Something_Smart: Your name is Dnecsnart backwards, should I call you Dnecsnart?
Transcend: lol that actually sounds funny
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I can't reiterate this paragraph enough. It was kinda skipped over due to my jailor question (my fault sorry) but I feel very strongly about it.In post 607, Joshz wrote: Along my jordan logic I am pretty sure at least one of the people pushing me is scum, because I'm new here and I look like an easy target and then they cop out "oh well he looked scummy my bad!?!" The difference is from my other experience via tos I know how noobs are used as easy buffers and that's why the first couple people to go after me and Jordan look significantly worse to me. Jordan especially because in a vacuum he does look scum, I agree with that, so he's a really easy push. I take back getting no info from lynching him at least because idr the first 2 chronologically to wagon him but I'd be willing to bet 1 of those 2 is scum.
Multi quote sucks but "should i towncase josh btw because i s2g if someone else votes for him i'm going to scream??? he's super obvtown and actually sheepable (which is pretty sick for a newbie imo)."
Is that a compliment? Zz
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