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...I can sympathise.
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Not sure, but I think his nose will explode.In post 338, rb wrote:what would happen if pinnochio said, "my nose will now grow!"- CCC
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Hmmmm. This seems very...In post 397, Transcend wrote:I don't like his posts and i don't think his progression through the game is genuine.genericto me. Can you point out something in his posts that you particularly didn't like?- CCC
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...that seems a very weak reason for the strength with which you're scumreading her.In post 428, Transcend wrote:In post 117, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:This game is going to be a pain to reread.In post 205, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Why were you so focused on proving your alignment rather than looking for scum?In post 203, Impoetic wrote:
why not? It was a quirky, fun entrance that somewhat proved my alignment in that I probably wouldn't have come up with such a weird dumbtell as scum, and it got reactions. I don't really know what to think of transcend's reaction, but it did get reactions.In post 198, mhsmith0 wrote:
And you did this because ___?In post 193, Impoetic wrote:I am aware that it looks like a dumbtell and it sort of was in that I realized team moon was probably something else before posting it, but decided to post it anyway.
so, tldr: idrc
I also haven't read up yet and am multitasking ATM so excuse the late response.
I don't like the tone or genuity of these posts.In post 329, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Smells like some next level reaction testing- CCC
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In post 492, Impoetic wrote:you mean when I said that people's PR/non-PR reads on me were like completely irrelevant to my actual role half the time? Why would you assume it was proven? Are you implyingyouknow my role?Halfthe time? How accurate is that figure? Do you perchance have stats (drawn only from completed games, of course) to back that up?- CCC
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That would actually make you very good at hiding your role.In post 493, Impoetic wrote:(And FTR it's not because I think I'm good at hiding my role, it's because I'm too stupid to remember my role and/or give the usual PR or non-PR tells when I do remember it.)- CCC
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...he looks just like he did in the last, now completed, game I played with him. He was scum there.In post 499, Transcend wrote:Ye we prob have town!Gerry
Mind you, I've never played with town!gerry, and he hasn't really done anything alignment indicative yet that I've seen, so it could be nothing...- CCC
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Is this an actual, serious scumclaim? I have a very strong urge to park my vote on you now.In post 504, Impoetic wrote:
friendly reminder that I'm the mafia goon with a factional kill to direct at whoever I want tonightIn post 498, JaeReed wrote:
eyyyy you CAN readIn post 495, Impoetic wrote:Actually he's likely town from a logical perspective given my perception of Gerryoat's approach to the game but I'm not sure and I think it's too soon to be sure but w/e- CCC
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You seem to have very strong scumreads on very flimsy evidence.In post 527, Transcend wrote:Alright assuming there's 3 mafia like there usually is I'm gonna go for 3/5 in luv, rb, smith, burger and hermie.
Ccc can possibly be scum but i don't think he's scum with luv and luv is my best scum read.
I also think after careful thinking that rb is scum.
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Why do you think your SR was wrong?
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...wait, how do you know that there's daychat?In post 574, mhsmith0 wrote:If lil if scum he has two afk/bad teammates or is just letting them bus him. Like, my goodness is there nothing in that ISO; I figured with day chat there would at least be some kind of fake content at this point instead of whatever the hell is going on there. Probably a similar story with vxxxyxyxz.- CCC
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...you're right. IIn post 583, mhsmith0 wrote:In post 393, CCC wrote:...sixteen pages within twenty-four hours?
I can see I have some catching up to do.In post 394, CCC wrote:...I can sympathise.
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Not sure, but I think his nose will explode.In post 338, rb wrote:what would happen if pinnochio said, "my nose will now grow!"In post 396, CCC wrote:Okay, so...
Transcend. You say you have a really really strong scumread on Lil Uzi Vert.
Why? What has Lil Uzi Vert done so far this game that you think he's scum?
This is a town read? For five posts? I guess you'd say because he was defending you? I mean, it's such a bizarre read on basically air.In post 425, CCC wrote:
Hmmmm. This seems very...In post 397, Transcend wrote:I don't like his posts and i don't think his progression through the game is genuine.genericto me. Can you point out something in his posts that you particularly didn't like?amTown, but I don't see how anyone can have a strong Townread on me after just these five posts (looked at from an external point of view, they look pretty much null to me).- CCC
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Insufficient evidence. I'd posted nothing but fluff and one or two minor questions before that read.In post 596, rb wrote:wait why would Uzi be confscum just because he saw CCC as conftown?
Yeah, but generally Town waits until it has a bit of evidence first, one way or the other. I'd posted practically nothing before that read.In post 600, rb wrote:
Well that's patently false as most town players develop strong scum or town reads in most games.In post 598, Hermie wrote:
Because scum are the only players who can be confident with their reads! Town is uninformed, scum knows.In post 596, rb wrote:wait why would Uzi be confscum just because he saw CCC as conftown?
Makes it look like Lil Uzi Vert might just have decided in advance how he wanted to read me, then ignored my actual posts. Which would seem more of a scum strategy than a town strategy.- CCC
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...I was going to vote Transcend today, if he couldn't at least give a decent reason for his scumread on Lil Uzi Vert.
And he didn't. But now Lil Uzi Vert is also making reads on basically nothing. And if they were both scum, then they'd both know it... hmmm. And sometimes scum do bus each other.
Hmmmmm.
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Yeah... that's why I'm suspicious of Lil Uzi Vert for his correct read on me based on practically nothing.In post 626, Hermie wrote:This is somewhat meta but scum knows who is cum so they read each post with the knowledge of what that players alignment is. Therefore they can see exactly what is townie about each post. For me it is very hard to call some people town and some people scum when I am maf. I either see everyone as town and have to entirely fabricate my scum tells(sure way to end up misspeaking and dieing) or I see everyone as scum and noone trusts me because I read them as scum when they know they are town.Hope that makes sense but the wiki does have a page on this. Scum has the best scum read and town reads of all the players in the game. They know and therefore can see the signs in each player's post.
Town is dumb; scum is smart.
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DO NOT ATTEMPT TO MAFIA WHILE DRIVING!In post 628, Hermie wrote:Mobile while driving really sucks.
You should be paying attention to the road! Watching other traffic! Paying attention to the pedestrians and/or cyclists in your vicinity! NOT dividing your attention with a mobile browser!
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Ah, right. Good. That's okay, then.In post 630, Hermie wrote:I'm riding but the road is rough enough that I keep hitting the wrong buttons.- CCC
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...ah, thank you for that clarification.In post 631, Impoetic wrote:
That's a figure of speech, not a statistical estimation. I meant nothing more than that in the other version of mafia I play, people tend to overanalyze/overestimate how much I play to my role. I cannot list games where this happened because it's not forum mafia. Cloud plays there too.In post 615, CCC wrote:In post 492, Impoetic wrote:you mean when I said that people's PR/non-PR reads on me were like completely irrelevant to my actual role half the time? Why would you assume it was proven? Are you implyingyouknow my role?Halfthe time? How accurate is that figure? Do you perchance have stats (drawn only from completed games, of course) to back that up?- CCC
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I don'tIn post 632, Impoetic wrote:
What do you think?In post 618, CCC wrote:
Is this an actual, serious scumclaim? I have a very strong urge to park my vote on you now.In post 504, Impoetic wrote:friendly reminder that I'm the mafia goon with a factional kill to direct at whoever I want tonightthinkit's serious, but if it turns out that youarescum, then it's going to turn out to be incredibly embarrassing to ignore that post.
...hmmm. Fair enough.In post 632, Impoetic wrote:because he came and posted some things that seemed really genuine to me. It wasn't necessarily a strong read in the first place.
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It's also possible that he's not TownreadingIn post 634, mhsmith0 wrote:
Because that kind of confidence in a read based on nothing would be obvious bullshit / fake reads, and that's pretty damn obv!scum.In post 596, rb wrote:wait why would Uzi be confscum just because he saw CCC as conftown?anyone- that his Towniest reads were null, and everyone south of that was being read, to a greater or lesser extent, as leaning scumwards. Then it would make sense to put the guy that has given practically no indication one way or the other with the nullreads at the top of the list.
What Idon'tlike is that, even given plenty of opportunity, he didn't suggest this as his reason.
I don't see how his behaviour here matches the Town meta you describe. He's not doing much questioning, his reads aren't fluid (he's pretty much fixated on Lil Uzi Vert), and his reads have no substance.In post 634, mhsmith0 wrote:This is pretty likely town!trans. See my meta case on him in LYLO the first time we played (and he was a wolf)
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The caveat here is that skimming his ISO there's not much in the way of questioning (more just shit-posting early on), but I don't see him pursuing an agenda, I don't see him pushing himself out of the spotlight, and I don't see any kind of focus on how he's being perceived by the board. It's not 100%, but unless he intentionally swung his meta (which is hard to do btw) just to fool me, I think it's just a lot more likely he's simply town.
...I looked there, andIn post 634, mhsmith0 wrote:PS My day chat knowledge comes from a really cool place. I'm going to spoil it because it might just blow your mind
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It's a weak scumread.In post 666, rb wrote:Um all these reasons for why Uzi would be confscum for being confident in his reads are really not realistic, just silly speculation imo. Uzi feels town to me, I like him more than smith/vwxyz right now.
Gerry 'towntell' is NAI - someone would probably say it as either alignment.
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...this while his vote is on Uzi and not on rb or me.In post 672, JaeReed wrote:trans/io/cloud/herm/impo/gerry town
vw probtown
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Explicitly voting someone who's not your top scumread without good reason trips all my scum detectors.
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...fair enough. But I'll keep an eye on you, just in case.In post 755, Impoetic wrote:
Ohhh, I get it now. Don't worry, I'm not. If you're really worried, you can probably verify with JaeReed, Transcend, Gerry, or Cloudkicker, as they've all played games with me before, and know I tend to make comments like that. I believe I said it in a followup to Jaereed saying jokingly that was my role.In post 753, CCC wrote:
I don'tIn post 632, Impoetic wrote:What do you think?thinkit's serious, but if it turns out that youarescum, then it's going to turn out to be incredibly embarrassing to ignore that post.
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New day, and the site is back! Hooray!
...alright, that's enough. Scumhunting time. We now know that both Lil Uzi Vert and Gerryoat were Town. Gerryoat was killed by the mafia, Lil Uzi Vert was lynched.
Gerryoat scumread both BurgerKing and Impoetic. If scum are smart, this will mean nothing.
Lil Uzi Vert's vote was on gerryoat - put there in the first post and never moved. Doesn't help much.
Jae seems very certain that Impoetic is Town, and I'm wondering why. Does this come from scum knowledge? Or is Jae basing this read entirely on things that were in the thread?
Yesterday, I thought that one of Lil Uzi Vert and Transcend was probably scum (but not both). Today, I know that Lil Uzi Vert was Town, which makes Transcend's continual push on Vert on day one look extremely suspicious.
I think that at least one, possibly both of Transcend and JaeReed are scum. JaeReed still edges out Transcend in scumminess for the moment, though.
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Independent reads, carried over from yesterday.In post 840, rb wrote:Why is one of Jae/Trans scum?
I think Trans may be scum because of his push on Lil Uzi Vert yesterday, based on basically nothing.
I think that JaeReed may be scum because yesterday he was voting the person he claimed as his third-top scumread:
I haven't found anything to associate them yet, though.In post 758, CCC wrote:
...this while his vote is on Uzi and not on rb or me.In post 672, JaeReed wrote:trans/io/cloud/herm/impo/gerry town
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Explicitly voting someone who's not your top scumread without good reason trips all my scum detectors.
I'm going to finish catching up before I vote, but unless I see something pretty blatant I'll be voting for JaeReed once I'm caught up.
They look like weak reads, and give me the impression of being a WIFOM trap.In post 840, rb wrote:Why would Gerry's scumreads mean nothing?
Nightkill analysis is often a good thing. I just don't think it gives us anything useful today.In post 840, rb wrote:It's arguably going into the realm of wifom to analyse it, so it may be pointless but I'm not sure if your point is that NK analysis isn't necessary and that's contributing to Jae being scum in your eyes?
But no, it's not contributing to my scumread of Jae.
I must have missed that explanation, then. Could you point me to it? I know that his last post yesterday started with:In post 840, rb wrote:Also Jae did actually explain their townread on Impoetic, so I can understand if you don't agree with the reasoning or something but to say he's not even explaining it doesn't make sense, don't know where that even comes from it's just shade throwing. I actually hate this post VOTE: CCC
...and I haven't seen any explanation why he thinks Impoetic is Town since that post.In post 773, JaeReed wrote:Impo might have drawn scum. :/- CCC
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Are you being at all serious about this whole Mason thing?In post 860, Io wrote:VOTE: Trans
In case you missed it on the PT Trans I'm going to distance you a bit so they don't think we are really Masons.
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That was a major part of it, yes.In post 870, mhsmith0 wrote:
I'd guess that CCC's post was in reaction to this. It's a blanket statement that she's town. So, why did you broadcast what read as relative certainty that she's town, if in fact you're harboring meaningful doubts?In post 837, JaeReed wrote:Impo is town tho so if he got nked for reads it's because burger is scum.- CCC
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Hmmmm. I'd read "not on my radar" to mean "not seeing any major signs of scum", thus implying a Townish lean - was this incorrect?In post 872, JaeReed wrote:
It was made 2 hours after a post where rb specifically asked me if she was town and I responded that she's not on my radar but has lots of could be scum moments. With Impo making one post in between which really wasn't AI.In post 870, mhsmith0 wrote:
I'd guess that CCC's post was in reaction to this. It's a blanket statement that she's town. So, why did you broadcast what read as relative certainty that she's town, if in fact you're harboring meaningful doubts?In post 837, JaeReed wrote:Impo is town tho so if he got nked for reads it's because burger is scum.
Mostly, that's "Impo is more town than burger is to me right now" and was an off-handed comment. You're seriously gonna push on semantics? It won't end well for either of us, I can guarantee you that, because I will just hard scumread you and actually push for the lynch. If you're town you REALLY don't want that, buddo.- CCC
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Scum have daytalk in this game. They don't need to try to coach in-thread, they can just pop over to their scum daytalk thread and yell at each other there.In post 880, Io wrote:What makes me lean more towards you both being scum was Impo's comment in 664 dismissing the idea scum would coach which is exactly what I feel like you 2 were doing, making interactions that just were not substantial and just superficial.- CCC
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Yeah, this is the major reason for my scumread on Jae.In post 895, mhsmith0 wrote:Which then opens up the question of why you were voting LUV, a wagon likely to go through (regardless of knowing the exact vc, it was clear he was the #1 wagon), if not only was LUV your #3 scum read, but you thought that rb was mafia actively spewing him town with his WK. Explain?- CCC
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Last game I played in, there were two players who voted for a player while that player was not their top stated scumread. Both turned out to be scum.In post 913, mhsmith0 wrote:So basically you're departing substantially from your normal way of doing things, and sheeping trans regardless of your personal reads logic is part of this. Meh. Null, maybe a scum lean at this point. Would be nice if you had a more defined wolf meta to compare against, but obv there isn't much on that front.
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If he was trusting Transcend's reads above his own, then surely he would have had Lil Uzi Vert as his top scumread yesterday (with the reason of "Transcend think this is scum")?In post 918, Impoetic wrote:really not seeing it as such a scumtell. Like, I can see how you can interpret it as such, but I don't think it is just because trusting someone else's reads over your own is something I've done before too (oops)?
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Nah, not that one. Mini 1830.In post 922, mhsmith0 wrote:Ccc, which game were u referencing, and which scum/which votes? Note that if you say wakes role madness I'm in advance not gonna bother looking though.
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(fixed links)In post 932, CCC wrote:
Nah, not that one. Mini 1830.In post 922, mhsmith0 wrote:Ccc, which game were u referencing, and which scum/which votes? Note that if you say wakes role madness I'm in advance not gonna bother looking though.
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Looking back at your massive wall post, you're clearly letting other people's reads influence your reads:In post 923, JaeReed wrote:
Trusting someone's read over my own doesn't mean I have to disregard my own reads completely. THAT would be scummy, because it'd be trying to avoid drawing associations.In post 920, CCC wrote:
If he was trusting Transcend's reads above his own, then surely he would have had Lil Uzi Vert as his top scumread yesterday (with the reason of "Transcend think this is scum")?In post 918, Impoetic wrote:really not seeing it as such a scumtell. Like, I can see how you can interpret it as such, but I don't think it is just because trusting someone else's reads over your own is something I've done before too (oops)?
predit: why would scum "try to look like scummy town"? also jae i know you're joking but if you do that I'm going to tunnel back regardless of whether my read changes on you past that point so don't try it thx
Yet, even after looking at Transcend's push on Uzi, you still had Uzi as only your third-place scumread - while nonetheless voting for Uzi. It just doesn't match up.In post 883, JaeReed wrote:CCC is a scum read flat out but holding back on that because smith might be town and if so his opinion is valued.- CCC
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That seems highly unlikely.In post 935, JaeReed wrote:@CCC those are different to this. They were actively trying to set up teams with the person they were voting.
Assume I get announced as Innocent Child (confirmed town) who do you then think is mafia?
But if it were to happen, then my top scumread would be Transcend - that's a substantially weaker read.- CCC
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Yeah, the analogy's not aIn post 937, mhsmith0 wrote:I'd say that the analogues to Gerry aren't perfect though. Gerry "hard scum read" one player and then voted someone else in a dependency read, while Jae's vote on LUV comes across as primarily lazy.perfectmatch. It's still the best scumread I've got right now.- CCC
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Good luck.In post 944, Transcend wrote:I work retail
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Quite frankly, I haven't seen good reason to trust any of your reads - even if you were confirmed Town. You seem to rely a lot on 'tone', which from my point of view is as useful a reason as 'magic' - I don't see what you see in people's tones, and so it makes it look like you're either making up your reads or you've got weak reads with little to no justification.In post 945, JaeReed wrote:
So you wouldn't take into account that he's my hardest townread, despite me having meta on him and being confirmed town to you, nor would you re-evaluate and look at people's interactions around the confirmed town?In post 936, CCC wrote:
That seems highly unlikely.In post 935, JaeReed wrote:@CCC those are different to this. They were actively trying to set up teams with the person they were voting.
Assume I get announced as Innocent Child (confirmed town) who do you then think is mafia?
But if it were to happen, then my top scumread would be Transcend - that's a substantially weaker read.
For the moment, I'm leaning towards the idea that you're making up your reads as scum and then using the word 'tone' to try to avoid giving much in the way of actual explanations of those reads.- CCC
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...okay, I don't agree with everything in this post, but I do like that you've actually done some serious analysis here. I'm now starting to question my scumread on you. Your day one push on Uzi was still terrible, mind you.In post 968, Transcend wrote:{Io}
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Hmmmm. rb and Hermie have been pretty null for me so far; maybe I should look more closely at them. Burger could be scum, but that's an extremely weak read.In post 970, Transcend wrote:rb/Burger/Hermie gg.- CCC
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I think it'sIn post 983, Impoetic wrote:CCC when you say jae being innocent child is unlikely, are you saying you think it's unlikely they're going to be cleared or unlikely that they'retown, period?highlyunlikely that they're an actual Innocent Child, and I think they're slightly more likely to be scum than to be town.- CCC
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I'm not saying that tonereads can't be valid.In post 992, JaeReed wrote:
This is actually confirmed mafia in my eyes right now.In post 985, CCC wrote:Quite frankly, I haven't seen good reason to trust any of your reads - even if you were confirmed Town. You seem to rely a lot on 'tone', which from my point of view is as useful a reason as 'magic' - I don't see what you see in people's tones, and so it makes it look like you're either making up your reads or you've got weak reads with little to no justification.
For the moment, I'm leaning towards the idea that you're making up your reads as scum and then using the word 'tone' to try to avoid giving much in the way of actual explanations of those reads.
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Wake & Drixx already disproved this train of thought in the dead thread with you.
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mhsmith0 has it almost exactly. There's just one further point that I can add: as an additional reason for me to mistrust Jae's tone reads, I know for a fact that this particular tone read is completely wrong:In post 1005, mhsmith0 wrote:Essentially ccc seems to be extrapolating jae not substantiating his tonal/gut read into the idea that jae is unable to do so because it's a fake read (and that it's a fake read because he's a wolf). There's nothing in there that argues against the idea of a tone read itself being necessarily illegitimate, and it's kinda misreppy (or lazy reading) to represent it as if that's what he'd said.
As for ccc's take itself, it's obviously plausible that this is why jae hasn't substantiated it, but it's equally plausible that jae simply isn't good at expressing exactly what it is that he's seeing in trans. Which is why ccc is a town read (I think his push is reasonable even if I'm not sold on it) and jae remains largely null for me.
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Tone. There's a glaring tonal difference and his scum game tone matches this one to a T.In post 952, mhsmith0 wrote:That reads list was a decent post (though a bit neutral about Io and impo). It doesn't make you cleared town given day chat and the possibility it was discussed in PT, but it's worth villager points.
What in particular strikes you as more similar to ccc scum game than town game in comparing isos?
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To be fair, I've had enough Town people thinking I'm Mafia when I'm actually Town in previous games that I don't think I can really consider "thinking I'm Mafia when I'm Town" to be particularly alignment indicative.In post 1015, mhsmith0 wrote:I'd further point out that in your push on CCC, by not being clear about what you're seeing, if he's mafia (which I really don't buy), he's able to discredit your read since you seemingly can't back it up. And if he's town, he's going to think you're full of shit and casting shade that you can't back up, and (somewhat predictably) think you're a wolf for it.
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I have one scumread, and it's a pretty firm scumread, so I'm trying to push it.In post 1022, Transcend wrote:CCC: Why are you being so neutral today? You've only taken a stance on Jae today and even then it was pretty weak and I didn't like the way you voted him.
Ihadyou as my second-top scumread at the start of the day (for your push on Uzi day one) but you've been looking a lot less scummy today - I don't know if it's because you're actually Town, or because you're a good actor.
I have a few Townreads as well, I'm not going to be voting for them unless I'm convinced my read is wrong
...and those are the reads I've got. I'm only pushing one person, because I only have one decent scumread. The way I see it, if we take him down today, then we can track down the rest of scum afterwards.- CCC
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The reasoning's good. I want to see more reasoning from him. Specifically about all the reads where he just says 'tone' and seems to think that that explains it.In post 1026, Transcend wrote:I just wanted your stance and nothing else lol- CCC
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...I fail to see howIn post 1027, JaeReed wrote:1) This has been proven false to me through every previous game of mine where I have tried. In fact, I got WORSE at getting my point across every game I tried to do it in.notexplaining would be better than a poor explanation. You're not getting your point across atallby remaining silent.- CCC
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You haven't been silent, but you haven't explained your scumread of me either. You just provided two isos - one of me as Town, and one of me as Mafia - and said my tone sounds more like the second than the first, which isn't an explanation.In post 1044, JaeReed wrote:
I have not remained silent.In post 1037, CCC wrote:
...I fail to see howIn post 1027, JaeReed wrote:1) This has been proven false to me through every previous game of mine where I have tried. In fact, I got WORSE at getting my point across every game I tried to do it in.notexplaining would be better than a poor explanation. You're not getting your point across atallby remaining silent.
Okay, fine then. How about this, then - can you point to one or two posts of mine that you considerIn post 1044, JaeReed wrote:You just picked out one part and ignored the part where I literally said I can't get my words to do what I want to explain it. I cannot explain it. There's a basis there that I can't explain, and I was actually relying on someone else looking at the evidence and putting it into words because I can't. Not everyone can manage to spin words their way all the fucking time.particularlyscummy? Instead of trying to get people to read through my entire ISO and then come up with their own reasons, pointing at a couple of specific posts at least gives everyone else a hint as to your thought processes.- CCC
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I have no strong opinions one way or the other on rb.In post 1045, Transcend wrote:Anyone besides hermie wanna give a reason why rb shouldn't die?- CCC
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You gave threeIn post 1050, JaeReed wrote:FUCK ME I GAVE EVIDENCE
I GAVE THE FUCKING LINKS AND EXPLAINED WHAT I WANTED PEOPLE TO LOOK AT WITH REGARDS TO THE DIFFERENCES.
STOP WITH THIS MISREPPY BULLSHIT THIS IS THE ACTUAL LITERAL WORST THING YOU CAN DO AS TOWN.
I LITERALLY GAVE THE EVIDENCE I WAS ABLE TO GIVE LIKE FUCK OFFentire ISOsand basically told people to make their own case. That's not evidence, that looks exactly like a fake read with no real case.- CCC
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...I could go for a burgerking post.
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Hmmm. It could be that Jae's scumpartners don't think he's taken enough votes to be at risk yet... but you do have a good point, there isn't really any resistance to this push from anyone else.In post 1066, mhsmith0 wrote:FWIW I'm developing a slight town read on jae, mainly because of how consistently they're engaging with the push against them. It's a bit difficult to maintain that level of "how dare you suspect me" type hostility, and I'm not especially sold that it's within their scum range. I feel like they're probably just kind of hanging out as the vote leader right now (not certain given non-current VC), and I don't especially get a sense of resistance to it. Like, maybe it's trans/jae/lurker or jae plus two lurkers, but it doesn't quite *fit* in my head right now that way.
Probably should look into our lurkers hermie, burger, rb, vw. technically io and ccc have low post counts too, but I can actually remember stuff they've been done (rb has a somewhat higher post count, but a huge chunk of it has been shit posting)
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She's Town because she has empty hands.In post 1071, mhsmith0 wrote:
Talk through Impo a bit? What in particular have you seen from her to make her a solid town read? I've been kind of null on her, though honestly I haven't especially focused there so I could have just missed something important.In post 1069, CCC wrote:
mhsmith0 and Impoetic.In post 1038, Transcend wrote:Who are your few good town reads?
...yeah, this won't mean anything yet. If it becomes necessary - that is, if either me or Impoetic are in serious danger of a lynch - then I can go into more detail. If I'm killed by scum, then this post should suddenly make sense, and you'll know everything I know.- CCC
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The only thing I saw in those posts you quoted was that you think I'm scum because I made a case on you instead of asking you direct questions. It seems a bit weak to me; that's a matter of playstyle, not alignment.In post 1078, JaeReed wrote:@CCC I literally quoted a handful of posts already I am not doing it again. Go.Through.My.ISO.And.Learn.You.Haven't.Been.Reading.
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