NY 198: Nexus is Now a New Normal Mafia (Game Over)

[rb]

There's not really anything wrong with TF or Pine's early game play.

They lack conclusions and conviction, but anyone who thinks that's the only things that benefit town in the early game is simply wrong. A good early game often comprises mostly of questioning and simply interacting and getting interactions out of people.

People are being lambasted with accusations of being shit - that needs to stop from everyone. If something is scummy, fine. Don't just blanket someone as shit because it's not alignment related.

[GuyInFreezer]

VC 1.03

Transcend (1):

Aeronaut

Aeronaut (2):

Zachstralkita, Shadow_step

JarJarDrinks (1):

Pine

TwoFace (2):

Gamma Emerald, Transcend

Pine (4):

kraska77, davesaz, JarJarDrinks, Zulfy

Killthestory (2):

drealmerz7, rb

Zulfy (2):

Lil Uzi Vert, TwoFace

Gamma Emerald (1):

Killthestory

Not Voting:

None

With

15

alive,

8

votes to lynch.

The deadline is in (expired on 2016-11-29 23:15:34).

[Transcend]

this voting log is a giant

[drealmerz7]

this voting log is a giant shitlog

ftfy

[Zulfy]

why

[drealmerz7]

probably scum on pine in those 4

[Zulfy]

why

[drealmerz7]

nn

[Pine]

why

Opportunism would be the scumtell associated with my wagon. It's easy to jump on in the middle of an active wagon, because then you can't really be blamed for a mislynch. There's almost always a lot more scrutiny on the last few votes. Unfortunately, this also makes it a lot harder to identify which of those early/middle votes are the scum, because sheepy Town does the same thing. This kind of VCA is a lot more effective in late game, when half or more of the game has flipped. You can say "Huh, everyone on that terrible wagon has flipped Town, except this one guy. Probably scum."

[drealmerz7]

I generally like partial-wagon analysis. I find it very effective. It makes the pools smaller and motivations easier. Add associations of previous wagons, and, yeh. Don't underestimate the mid-Day wagon analysis. Ever.

[Transcend]

[davesaz]

Pine is a little better, but having a good size wagon is good for town so I'll stay.

I was wrong about the comparison of KTS to the recent town game, which was Bebop btw. I was matching based on memory of post structure, which was very reactive, short stream without much structure, and occasionally rude. When I went back to compare content, there is a lot more bulk in this game than in the other one. The substance of the match between games is NAI playstyle, so not an explicit TR any more. I'm going to have to read it again to see what's chaff and what's wheat. Then I can see if the wheat is rotten or good.

Pedit: Having a wagon is good for exactly that reason, couldn't have put it better if I'd tried.

[drealmerz7]

seriously cracked up out loud

[drealmerz7]

It's a guy at microphones right? poised to say...

...

...

..

.

[rb]

Davesaz, reads on KTS, Pine, Aeronaut and Zulfy please.

[rb]

Also everyone needs to give me their read on Transcend asap - he shitposts and fucks around too much to be easily readable. Vig shot here if he doesn't change.

[rb]

Vig shots are Kraska/Transcend rn.

I think if we can't consolidate on a lynch, we lynch Kraska as well.

[Transcend]

why am i avig shot ? ?? ? ? ?

im good player : )

[Zulfy]

z

ulfy's game has been as baseless as he accuses yours of being

and he's determined to throw as much shade as possible early game + his RVS feels fake as fuck

Misrepping isn't a wacky reason.

Being useless by complaining about somebody else being useless

isn't a wacky reason.

Not sure how to feel about this continued mimicry alignment-wise.
Heh

[Zulfy]

Also an observation will always have more value than a trait.
My observation of your uselessness is inherently superior to your simple uselessness. But that's another story whatevs

[Zulfy]

Ya know what TwoFace you're probs town

[Pine]

Also everyone needs to give me their read on Transcend asap - he shitposts and fucks around too much to be easily readable. Vig shot here if he doesn't change.

Shitposting and fucking around IS a read. It's useless behavior that doesn't mean anything, especially D1.

I honestly have no idea why all you new players are obsessed with having strong reads on practically everyone right away. Give it time, let your impressions grow gradually. Otherwise, you run a severe risk of accidentally confirmation-biasing yourself when they start to actually show behavior that can actually be analyzed

[Pine]

Pine is a little better, but having a good size wagon is good for town so I'll stay.

I was wrong about the comparison of KTS to the recent town game, which was Bebop btw. I was matching based on memory of post structure, which was very reactive, short stream without much structure, and occasionally rude. When I went back to compare content, there is a lot more bulk in this game than in the other one. The substance of the match between games is NAI playstyle, so not an explicit TR any more. I'm going to have to read it again to see what's chaff and what's wheat. Then I can see if the wheat is rotten or good.

Pedit: Having a wagon is good for exactly that reason, couldn't have put it better if I'd tried.

You know what, I've decided not to let this go. This post looks like cognitive dissonance; saying one thing but keeping a vote that doesn't match it is one of the most reliable scumtells

Unvote
Vote: Davesaz

I'd like to see some pressure here

[rb]

Also everyone needs to give me their read on Transcend asap - he shitposts and fucks around too much to be easily readable. Vig shot here if he doesn't change.

Shitposting and fucking around IS a read. It's useless behavior that doesn't mean anything, especially D1.

I honestly have no idea why all you new players are obsessed with having strong reads on practically everyone right away. Give it time, let your impressions grow gradually. Otherwise, you run a severe risk of accidentally confirmation-biasing yourself when they start to actually show behavior that can actually be analyzed

I don't confbias.

But anyway this would be relevant if I had faith that Transcend would show behaviour that could be easily analyzed later. KTS probably won't either.

Besides, why are you contesting my Transcend comments anyway?

[rb]

For what reason are you making excuses for Transcend?