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Post Post #20 (isolation #0) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:47 am

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In post 4, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: TheseViolentDelights
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Who?

VOTE: Io

I didn't feel like typing
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Post Post #21 (isolation #1) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:48 am

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This is my first game onsite, actually!
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Post Post #25 (isolation #2) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:01 pm

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In post 23, TwoFace wrote:
In post 21, TheseViolentDelights wrote:This is my first game onsite, actually!
Why skip the newbie que?
because I've played a few games before
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Post Post #29 (isolation #3) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:20 pm

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In post 28, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 27, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 26, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:VOTE: havingfitz

You aren't getting away this time.
What happened?
Nothing happened. I'm just participating in RVS.
Why do you feel the need to participate in RVS?
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Post Post #34 (isolation #4) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:48 pm

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In post 31, MisaTange wrote:
In post 29, TheseViolentDelights wrote:
In post 28, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 27, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 26, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:VOTE: havingfitz

You aren't getting away this time.
What happened?
Nothing happened. I'm just participating in RVS.
Why do you feel the need to participate in RVS?
Why are you questioning him and not GE/me/Io for participating in RvS?

...Or do you not understand that around this site, voting for "random" people for bullshit reasons is common in the first pages of day one?
Because they posted what seemed like non-bullshit reasoning under the guise of a bullshit game stage
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Post Post #41 (isolation #5) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:51 pm

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VOTE: Aristophanes
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Post Post #42 (isolation #6) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:52 pm

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awful entrance
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Post Post #44 (isolation #7) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:54 pm

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What it means is that he's scum
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Post Post #45 (isolation #8) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:55 pm

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town does not come in heavy hinting their PR on their first post
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Post Post #47 (isolation #9) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:56 pm

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Does that matter in any way how much I know Aristophanes
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Post Post #49 (isolation #10) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:59 pm

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One must be confident at mafia to be competent at mafia
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Post Post #51 (isolation #11) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:59 pm

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[ and because I'm not new to mafia]
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Post Post #55 (isolation #12) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:07 pm

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In post 53, TwiszTed wrote:
In post 45, TheseViolentDelights wrote:town does not come in heavy hinting their PR on their first post
VOTE: TheseViolentDelights

Town doesn't push a PR crumber because anyone making such posts drastically reduces their lifespan.

Only scum has reason to want to kill a PR.
Ok.

So from a town perspective; If you roll a PR you're going to want to stay quiet about it. It doesn't make sense to come in and alert everybody that you're a PR like that, because that gets you killed, and renders you useless.

Ari has been around long enough to know this. You people haven't.
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Post Post #95 (isolation #13) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:23 pm

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In post 56, TwiszTed wrote:
In post 55, TheseViolentDelights wrote:
In post 53, TwiszTed wrote:
In post 45, TheseViolentDelights wrote:town does not come in heavy hinting their PR on their first post
VOTE: TheseViolentDelights

Town doesn't push a PR crumber because anyone making such posts drastically reduces their lifespan.

Only scum has reason to want to kill a PR.
Ok.

So from a town perspective; If you roll a PR you're going to want to stay quiet about it. It doesn't make sense to come in and alert everybody that you're a PR like that, because that gets you killed, and renders you useless.

Ari has been around long enough to know this. You people haven't.
From a scum perspective, you're not going to lie about being a PR right out of the gate because staying alive will raise eyebrows.
Not really, no. Aristo coming in and making it pretty obvious like that without giving away what the role is means that all we know is that he's a power role.

Basically, if we're like hey Ari why aren't u dead yet, he can just claim that he's a BP or even that someone protected him. The "well he'd die as town" perspective looks good on paper, not really in practice.
In post 57, Hiraki wrote: TVD - do your page 2 questions imply that your page 1 vote was somewhat serious
Not at the time, why? I don't see how they're connected.
you get much better by the end of page 2 but the stuff you say at the top is pretty nonsensical but since we're on page 3 i think we can just pretend that never happened
Thank's for your offer, but no.
In post 61, FrankJaeger wrote:
In post 4, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: TheseViolentDelights
obvious Aero alt
I thought the same
why. Do I play like them?
In post 63, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Ari seemed like he was either reaction testing or being sarcastic. Leaning the latter.

I think TVD is hiding how experienced based on his response to Gamma's . He dodges a very simple and straight forward question. Can anyone else find any other logical reason(s) as to why he would answer in such a way? I have a feeling he's an alt and is afraid to give himself away because of the reputation of his old account.
Again, I really didn't dodge shit.

The account on my home site has the reputation of being very handsome
In post 65, MisaTange wrote:@TVD: You mentioned you have mafia experience. What type of mafia? How long? You don't have to mention specific sites if you don't want to.
Site-mafia. Just over three years.
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Post Post #99 (isolation #14) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:56 pm

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In post 38, Aristophanes wrote:Whoops, I've said too much... :S

VOTE: Fitz
Don't like the sarcasm in the jump on Io. I dislike the vote by Io on an empty slot, but I dislike your vote there more.
What do you mean the sarcasm? All they did was vote. If there's anything to not like, it's the naked vote, and even that is a pretty silly thing to not like seeing as it's page fucking 1

Do you agree with IO's theory?
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In post 68, FrankJaeger wrote:Im liking Hiraki so far
What do you like about him?

Tbh I'm not a fan atm.
Why aren't you a fan of Hiraki?

Also, why did you decline to comment on the discussion about you?
In post 71, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 70, Hiraki wrote:im sorry i don't want to suck your ego off about your softcrumb that's stupid

i can't wait to hear in day 3 that it was just a prank bro :)))))))))))))))))
See, I now like you better already :P

What makes you suspect it's all just a prank?
See; this is even worse. Ari is now perpetuating the "I might be a PR, I might not be" narrative; once again, do you see town A) asking more people about this 'accidentally' slipped PR, or do you see town saying shit maybe we shouldn't talk about this so openly
In post 77, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 66, Hiraki wrote:
In post 63, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I have a feeling he's an alt and is afraid to give himself away because of the reputation of his old account.
(maybe it's not important)

disclaimer: i honestly know nothing
Feels like it could be. Might give us an understanding of how he or she plays.
In post 67, FrankJaeger wrote:
In post 66, Hiraki wrote:
In post 63, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I have a feeling he's an alt and is afraid to give himself away because of the reputation of his old account.
(maybe it's not important)

disclaimer: i honestly know nothing
Yeah, there is no way to prove it.

We just have to take his(her?) word for it.

Any actual debate about it is incidentally also anti-town.
Why would it be anti-town? You seem to be trying to shutdown a discussion that could potentially help in the long run.
It does not help in the long run. You know the only information that is valuable, that I know your meta, and know how to play the game. Everything else is busy-talk.
In post 88, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I guess my main thing with how this started was how it was labeled as a push rather than bringing something into the spotlight. I can see newb town doing the latter or even a player who's not familiar with MS meta which is why I'm curious as to whether TVD is an alt or not as well as his or her experience.

Looking forward to his/her response as well as everyone who hasn't chimed in yet but I have a feeling that TVD might be the most optimal play for today. Especially since I've been a little suspicious ever since he/she asked such an odd question regarding RVS.
Ok.... so I'm newbtown, but I'm the "optimal play?"

both statements are wrong, both statements point to you being scum.
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Hiraki:
I'm curious as what else you or Ted want me to talk about while we are waiting for 4 replacements.

What's wrong with being suspicious of a question?

Don't get your last point. Especially after I said how I'm looking forward to others thoughts on the matter.
If I was opportunistic like you seem to be implying, I would have voted for TVD already.
Yeah. The fact that you're throwing shade without actually voting is honestly much worse. The bolded just shows your scum thought process for doing so.

You're sitting here talking about how I'm not really "pushing" my read, yet you're not even voting for yours.
In post 94, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 91, Hiraki wrote:1) talking all of this shit that's getting us just about nowhere
What makes you say this?
2) you're suspicious of a question
I was too, I think many were
3) "I can see newb town" -> "TVD might be the optimal play for today"
Not mutually exclusive
What are you talking about? They are absolutely mutually exclusive.
In post 97, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 95, TheseViolentDelights wrote:
In post 61, FrankJaeger wrote:
In post 4, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: TheseViolentDelights
obvious Aero alt
I thought the same
why. Do I play like them?
Aero's sig has your username in it
Aero must also like Shakespeare?
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Post Post #100 (isolation #15) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:57 pm

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@IO: In your #6 and #10 are you being serious? Like do you plan on actually voting based on those statistics? Or do you have impressions of the game so far?
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Post Post #102 (isolation #16) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:59 pm

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People who are town: FrankJaeger, Hiraki, Twoface, and probably TwiszTed.

People who are scum: Aristophanes, Lil Uzi Vert
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Post Post #105 (isolation #17) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:01 pm

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In post 101, Gamma Emerald wrote:Oh that's Shakespeare
Also he's saying though your play COULD be newbtown your actions make you a decent lynch
what it says to me is that he's saying "Oh, he could be Newtown, it depends on whether he's an alt or not", and then later on saying I'm the optimal lynch anyway; meaning that he doesn't actually care whether I'm new or not but that I should be lynched anyway
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Post Post #106 (isolation #18) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:02 pm

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VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert
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Post Post #115 (isolation #19) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:46 pm

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In post 109, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
@Hiraki:
I'm not entirely sure what's the problem. I was simply just trying to get a better understanding of TVD's play since I assumed he was an alt. You still aren't suggesting other topics to talk about by the way.

I could see scum easily asking that question in attempt to look like they're trying to understand thought processes and motive.
But I could say the same about you asking about whether I'm an alt

I'd be wrong, but I could ask it.
And no I can't, but I may be able to get a better idea and that's the big picture. You seem to be missing that and I'm not sure why.
Ok; so what is the intel you've gathered from knowing where I come from play-wise?
@TVD:
I felt it can and I still think it can. It's okay if you disagree.

I didn't call you newb town. I was saying the way you put Ari's RVS post into the spotlight is something I could see newb town doing. I also said you
might
be the most optimal play for today. Key word is might there. As in, when Day 1 is close to being all said and done, if you're a lynch candidate, you would have the strongest chance of flipping scum.
Why could you see it coming from Newtown? And what other factors make you think I'd flip scum?
Could you describe in a little more detail how me interpreting "reeks of opportunity" as someone trying to say I'm opportunistic throwing shade?
What do you mean?

You "throwing shade" means that you're here half-calling me scum but not actually voting outside of your RVS vote.
I didn't really think you were pushing for a lynch because you didn't really advocate for anyone to sheep you. You just stated a case I found very week and now it looks like you're currently trying to sort Ari.
So, if I'm sorting Ari, does that not fall under pushing a lynch?
I'm not scum reading anyone at the moment. I can see how you think I was though. I find your vote on Ari NAI.
Ok then why talk about it for three pages and then talk about whether I'm an Alt for three more?
What are you doing to solve the game if you don't think either of those things are AI?
In post 110, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 102, TheseViolentDelights wrote:People who are town: FrankJaeger, Hiraki, Twoface, and probably TwiszTed.

People who are scum: Aristophanes, Lil Uzi Vert
Mind explaining your town reads?
Sure.

FrankJaeger

#58
for recognizing that Ari's introduction was anti-town at best.
#67 & #82
for recognizing that the conversation about whether or not I was an alt was pointless, whereas scum could have kept riding that

TwoFace

#33
for seeing what I did in Lil's weird RVS post.
#78
also for seeing that the alt-spec was useless and pointless, where scum him could easily continue talking about it looking busy

Hiraki

#91
and
#91
, as well as a general feeling of non-artificiality from most of their posting

TwiszTed

For 81, and also for his push on Gamma. I don't know how I feel about gamma yet, but I know that that push seems like he's at least trying to get somewhere
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Post Post #117 (isolation #20) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:24 pm

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well to be honest, I also don't see scum pointing out reasons not to townread them
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Post Post #126 (isolation #21) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:51 pm

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VOTE: Eric Rasputin
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Post Post #127 (isolation #22) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:51 pm

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VOTE: Uzi

Never mind. I thought you had said something differently
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Post Post #402 (isolation #23) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:49 am

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Hi guys, I'm going to be V/LA until Sunday because of holiday shenanigans. Sorry :(
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Post Post #555 (isolation #24) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:24 pm

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hey people, I'm going to be able to play catchup probably tomorrow. Sorry for the shit lurk :/
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