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[XnadrojX]

Lemme read the game

[XnadrojX]

UNVOTE: MTD

intent to hammer Gamma

[gigabyteTroubadour]

gamma's not in hammer range jordy

Why Gamma over Kyouko?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Skimmed through my opinions so far are still scum MTD

gigabyteTroubadour is Town.

Gamma

and mykonian are town lean

????

jordy???

(btw i know this is BAD but i don't think this is scummy it's just??? how did this read progress)

[mykonian]

It's insane the amount of excuses you guys are making for Jordan.

Is he that hot?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

he at least tries to be consistent as scum from my experience........... as do most people.

also jordy is adorable not hot that's weird tbh.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

{gerry, josh, rk, ep} - Strong town
{jordan, kraska, transcend} - Town
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{mykonian, MTD, Maria} - POE not-town?? myko doesn't really make sense with any team besides Myko/MTD/Gamma/Kraska, not feeling MTD as either alignment (he's someone I prefer to read via flips, I've figured), and I liked Maria's early play but there's just a large gap between them and my townreads
{Gamma, Kyouko} - One of these is probably scum? i'm not even sure at this point

hm. i just typed up a readlist and my confidence in the gamestate just went down the drain

the only combination completely from the bottom five that makes sense is Myko/Gamma/MTD but I'm just not really feeling it with how the three of them piled onto Kyouko so quickly (kraska could probably take MTD's place but A: I think this is kraska's towngame, and B: their placement on the wagon would make even less sense tbh). For Kyouko, I only have Maria as a possible partner (yes, having more possible partners for gamma makes it seem like I *should* be voting him but his wagon is ick in comparison to Kyouko's mostly because of maria and how the wagon itself grew) so idfk??

Jordan's last few posts and his activity is making me feel a little worse about him but I still think he's town? Like for sure all it really has told me is that scum!Jordan is not partners with gamma. "reading" the last few posts and then instantly logging off (timestamp between entrance and unvote was 1 minute) just feels really weird, and the unexplained reads are just going to drive me crazy. it's definitely not partner interaction.

but the point is nothing really seems to fit and i'm wrong SOMEWHERE. top four are like undeniably town. that's all i'm really sure about. i was hoping with so many townreads i'd be able to PoE down this game D1 but like i'm fucking up??

also the stalling counterwagons at deadline gives me the heebie jeebies from like a lot of my last games. i don't know what it means (both are town or one is scum), but chances are the vanity voters are town in a scenario like this (EP 100%, jordan probably, and it's good points for Gamma but I could see him making a weird play like vanity-ing while his life is on the line as scum). i'm trying to pick two names from one wagon and one from the other (since that DID work out in both of the games i've had situations like this) but i feel like i'm aimlessly mashing together random teams and seeing what sticks...

transcend (or kraska or just someone whose judgement i trust at this point tbh but transcend is probably online) where the fuck am i going wrong?? i need a fresh perspective i'm not getting

i'd wait for flips but like i want to get into this game again?? gaughhgf

[gigabyteTroubadour]

fuck transcend is not online

why did i have to get my second wind in life a day before the actual deadline??

[kraska77]

Vote Gamma, he is mafia. Look at how hard it is to get him lynched when his content was not any good at all.

are u freaking kidding me
if theres anyone hard to lynch in this game its

fking ssbm

like the entire playerlist has been after gamma's derriere. if it werent for like 2 or 3 ppl constantly calling the wagon shit because it is, gamma would have been lyched eons ago
ssbm's wagon on the other hand has real resistance. too many counterwagons magically pop up whenever ssbm's taking the hot seat

[kraska77]

i really would love bullets on both gerry and jordan just because theyre being annoying on purpose

[mykonian]

take note that Giga really struggles to get any resemblance of scumreads out by page 44, takes the two leading wagons as scum, and has 2/3 talked about suspected players in his suspected pool.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

take note that Giga really struggles to get any resemblance of scumreads out by page 44, takes the two leading wagons as scum, and has 2/3 talked about suspected players in his suspected pool.

because there were events that lead me to believe my original leading suspects were wrong and i'm stuck trying to figure out where I went wrong??

like i'm pretty sure you didn't read my post but i'm only confident in my townreads this game and basically all of the games i've played recently

[mykonian]

Nah, I read your post. I saw 7 townreads and got curious. You are a very trusting for a townie, where's the paranoia? And when you actually read the post, you can see the scumreads aren't even there. You went with the flow, and don't even have reasons for half of them, which you don't do a very good job of of covering up. So yeah, I read that lengthy post and saw it said very little.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

dunno. i don't really see the point of paranoia as town? like in my scumgame i pretended to be paranoid because people expect it and it's a good way to not make an otherwise obviously townslot lynchable.

i guess kraska and transcend being lower than the top is paranoia from misreading them in the past?? i'm not really sure, i've just been subconsciously less sure of them being town. i used to think i was good at reading kraska but in our last game i fucked up really badly because she was obviously playing to her scumgame but i just refused to see it.

and obviously the post said nothing?? the point of posting it was "i have no idea what the fuck is happening any more can someone whose abilities i trust lend me a hand"? there's nothing to cover up about that. i need back-and-fourth with kraska and transcend about reads because sometimes that's just what i need to get a jumpstart in my reads when i'm stuck.

and my reasoning for my scumreads have been in-thread for a while now so i don't see why that post would have to have them on it??

[Joshz]

When's deadline because I don't want to be working through it

[XnadrojX]

ok ignore everything there I just woke up and was like fuck I have 3 hours to prodge so I just typed what came to mind after seeing the VC aka someone on 5 votes and I was like "fuck this shit" and yeah.

I just read through the past few pages and Transcend is acting scummier than before. I'll go quote them in a sec.
VOTE: Transcend

[XnadrojX]

Spoiler:

I've flaked out of games as town

I've flaked out of games as scum

The reasons I flaked were sometimes not even related to the game

Now can you put that theory to rest plz

Gamma, no.

This scum fuck hangs some other time.

a lot of the stuff here contains a lot of fluff and a either a lack of effort or just horrible language

[XnadrojX]

Spoiler:

I've flaked out of games as town

I've flaked out of games as scum

The reasons I flaked were sometimes not even related to the game

Now can you put that theory to rest plz

Gamma, no.

This scum fuck hangs some other time.

a lot of the stuff *between* here contains a lot of fluff and a either a lack of effort or just horrible language

EBWOP

[kraska77]

Hey
Look at the deadline timer And votecount
And then look me in the eye and tell me you think a transcend lynch is happening today. vote gamma or ssbm or just prodge and eat a bullet

[Gamma Emerald]

We have 24 hours
And I wouldn't be opposed to a Transcend lynch at this point
His lynch immunity that he gave to Maria is bad

[Gamma Emerald]

24+ even
We have at least a day ok

[kraska77]

Thank u 4 ur useless input
Deadline flashwagons are dumb

[Transcend]

I might have a vengeful power

I fucking dare you to lynch me

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Transcend

[Transcend]

He dared

Lol