Mini Normal #1838 - Game Over

[nn30]

I also must implore town, in the event that I die or survive into tomorrow, to ignore any WIFOM related to BV. He could leave me alive because he knows I'll advocate for him or he could kill me because he knows I'll advocate for him.

We have no good way of rigorously proving this one way or another... so it's moot.

[Prism]

Reading the past page is going to have to wait, I've been busier than I thought which is a common theme but unavoidable. I'm dealing with minor health issues right now which has made it difficult to function normally and really do anything other than bare minimum.

With that in mind if I don't change my mind on DF, and I see no reason to, then I want to get this show on the road ASAP.

[BlackVoid]

Just give me a few days to read this game. 100+ pages full of walls is a lot but I'll try and look for important parts. I don't want to get to lylo. That would suck. Just want to make absolutely sure.

[Prism]

If we're talking doublechecking DF it might be worth reading, but in the context of "Picking someone in case Dierfire flips town", unless your name is Implosion I see no reason to worry about that now. It's not like random pages are going to disappear on Day 6.

[BlackVoid]

Yeah, I'm talking about double-checking DF.

[podoboq]

Official Vote Count 5.04

Lynching

With 5 votes in play, it takes 3 to lynch.

Dierfire (1): nn30

Not Voting (4): BlackVoid, Dierfire, implosion, Prism

V/LA: Prism

Deadline: (expired on 2016-12-03 09:00:00)

[Prism]

Preliminary proddodge, I'm trying to make time but you see the results.

[Dierfire]

I apologize for doing this, but I'm busy with Thanksgiving and haven't yet found anything useful from reading again, so I'm dodging for today.

[nn30]

I to am prod dodging

[implosion]

La la la.

[BlackVoid]

Haven't gotten to reading the game but will try and do that this weekend.

[Dierfire]

I've read through intermittently over the last few days, and I'm not finding anything groundbreaking that changes my opinion.

If Prism is Mafia then I am deceived completely.

I don't rate nn30 being Mafia as impossible but I rate it less likely than BlackVoid being Mafia.

[nn30]

I have this sneaking suspicion that it's actually just Black Void and I'm wrong about Dier. If he's scum, he's playing this 'okay fine kill me thing' incredibly cool.

Let's discuss town.

UNVOTE:

[implosion]

i simply do not believe that shadow would have thought to counterclaim ascetic in a backhanded, crumbed way as scum.

[nn30]

@Implosion - the best way I can reinforce your argument is to bring up that Shadow subbed out.

I think that if Shadow, as scum, had successfully pissed off town to that degree he'd just ride the wave of confusion into LyLo. Instead, he quit.

Yep convinced myself again. BV is town.

VOTE: Dier

[Prism]

Last dodge, I promise.

[podoboq]

Official Vote Count 5.05

Lynching

With 5 votes in play, it takes 3 to lynch.

Dierfire (1): nn30

Not Voting (4): BlackVoid, Dierfire, implosion, Prism

V/LA: Prism

Deadline: (expired on 2016-12-03 09:00:00)

[podoboq]

BlackVoid has been prodded.

[BlackVoid]

Still a hard decision.

@nn30, how did you go from scumreading me to suddenly townreading me and then pushing Dierfire as the lynch? You did a similar thing where you were townreading Boring and I pushed her, and then you out of nowhere voted her too.

[nn30]

Just now?

It felt too easy to get Dier to agree to the plan. He's nkt flailing, so I thought I was wrong about him.

Then I thought about you and Prism and between you two I scum read you the most. Then I talked myself out of that and therefore back onto Dier.

It's been a while with Boring. I don't know when you're referring to and likely won't remember

[Dierfire]

I've nothing further to add; I'm just avoiding a prod.

I guess that I'll put my vote on BlackVoid, but unless Prism comes back with a radically different opinion I thought that we were mostly defaulting to lynching me and then sorting things out at LYLO.

VOTE: BlackVoid

[implosion]

VOTE: Dierfire

[BlackVoid]

So, from an ISO of Dierfire, I find him somewhat scummy. He's very hesitant to push Boring D1 and prefers the Eagersnake wagon which I hate. Then is also hesitant to consider the MariaR kill to be indicative of Boring being scum. But he slowly moves towards her as a scumread, briefly votes her, says she and Grendel are the team and switches to Grendel. Finally there's the lame vote on me. The only thing that gives me pause is that he seemed really intent on checking to see if Boring was scum before finally lynching her D4. I'd expect scum to be more bus-happy when it became rather obvious that Boring was going to be the lynch. Overall, probably scum but nothing stands out like a smoking gun and I don't think it's impossible for him to have those progressions as town. I'll take a look at nn30 more closely but unless something is extremely incriminating, I'm probably going to vote Dierfire as the path of least resistance and if I'm wrong, move to 3P lylo.

[nn30]

That just felt really bad out of BV.

[Prism]

Okay, have time now, post will come in an hour at the latest. I'll hammer unless something about my thinking changes while I read.