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no-lynch haters love to hate on no-lynch!
all the RVS votes of stupidity and meaninglessness, and ppl just want to KILLLLL the person who has a peaceable approach, even in RVS!!! I generally tend to look for scum in the ppl who are trying to make an issue out of an RVS no-lynch vote -
now, saying that, no-lynch is GENERALLY a bad idea for town on D1 and scum know that and don't draw themselves into attention by doing that, so there is just a ton of WIFOM there anyway and I think the simple "attention draw" about it has me lean town about it rather than scum
I love to throw out a no-lynch vote for reactions on occasion. Or sometimes I do want it because of reasons (no good scum reads and being a cop, for example.)- drealmerz7
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ooof, are we still talking about this no-lynch stuffs? well, good I guess, but only because it created content, well done 1SVT!
it's helped me get some reads
1SVT - not serious vote in that he doesn't really want no-lynch, serious in that he did it to get reactions or at least serious RVS (knowing it's a joke), which means nothing (which I don't think scum would do in RVS, this is a case in point as to why, ppl are too touchy about even the mention of it, even in RVS) - townleany for this
30nn - view of situation is similar to mine, I think others are trying to possibly make the NL vote seem more scummy than it was and they are the ppl to look at - very townlean here
PP - bit towny after it
Pine - bit scummy after it
TB - the most scummy after it
No, and I don't like to talk in generalities, if you're still unclear on my position in regards toIn post 60, Dark Horse wrote: are you saying that suggesting No lynch is something that seems more town than scumthisgame, let me know, everything else is theoretical and a distraction.
Well, I often use a lot of punctuation, caps, italics, etc, to empassion my words. It's NAI for me, and I'ma not change, of course. Don't know what else to tell you cept it's all genuine. *shrug* (hey, I *shrug* often enough too!)In post 64, nn30 wrote:
I'm scum reading you for your '!' and '!!!' in the above post.In post 51, drealmerz7 wrote:no-lynch haters love to hate on no-lynch!
all the RVS votes of stupidity and meaninglessness, and ppl just want to KILLLLL the person who has a peaceable approach, even in RVS!!! I generally tend to look for scum in the ppl who are trying to make an issue out of an RVS no-lynch vote -
now, saying that, no-lynch is GENERALLY a bad idea for town on D1 and scum know that and don't draw themselves into attention by doing that, so there is just a ton of WIFOM there anyway and I think the simple "attention draw" about it has me lean town about it rather than scum
I love to throw out a no-lynch vote for reactions on occasion. Or sometimes I do want it because of reasons (no good scum reads and being a cop, for example.)
Seems like you're trying to pretend to have a reaction here.
*shrug*
Anecdotally, I won my first scum game by suggesting a no-lynch D1 and intentionally playing it off like I was newb town. I knew exactly what I was doing and it worked like a charm so it is a viable strategy if you know how to pull it off.
Town has good reason to denounce the no-lynch suggestion: the only motivations for it are scum or bad town play.
In your win, did you suggest it in RVS, or later? Anecdotally, in my first game I argued a lot for a no-lynch despite the rigorous explanations of why it wasn't a good idea, and most ppl were definitely aware that I might just be pretending to be noob about it and actual scum. I was an investigative role though and knew I'd get a result and so used that to push the issue (and knew I wouldn't likely get NKed because of the controversy.) It's actually become a whole thing with me on my HS, no-lynch discussion / voting and all that. I sometimes will do no-lynch in RVS to indicate I have an investigative role, but for that reason I also do it when I don't and for other reasons, just randomly really anymore, to keep it all mixed up.- drealmerz7
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This question is a bit scummy to me, a little reminiscent of the question you asked me about "does that mean you think it's towny to vote no-lynch" which felt a bit like you were trying to twist what I said but I let it go then...In post 88, Dark Horse wrote:What exactly is a rate where scum reads "develop naturally," nn. It seems like this is where our disagreement stems from
asking for an "exact rate" of something that "develops naturally" is a bit ridiculous
it's like asking how fast the grass grows - you can get an AVERAGE rate, but an exact rate is impossible, because it FLUCTUATES depending on the specifics of the environment/climate
reads develop naturally - case by case basis game by game, it just depends how much the scumness grows and how much that is counteracted by townness- drealmerz7
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mmm, I think you're blurring some things maybe
or maybe we just view the game differently
I think a lot of time people force their early reads because they want to be able to say they "have something", when they don't and they just like to feel confident where doing so makes no sense. It's best to just let things grow and develop (naturally!) without having to DECIDE what you think it means. It could mean this, it could mean this, different things put it in different light and it grows or dies and multiple things accumulate, dissipate, and it all flows and grows.- drealmerz7
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Pressure and question, absolutely, but don't dig at nothing and try to make it something. Let things accumulate. You'd be amazed at what you can actually find if you just kind of "loosen" a bit.In post 94, Dark Horse wrote:That's a pretty passive way of playing mafia. Why should we sit back and hope that our questions about our reads get answered, instead of pressuring and questioning our reads- drealmerz7
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Well then prepare to SR me, because this is a lot of the way I play the game. I play in possibilities and likelihoods of those possibilities.In post 95, Secret Agent Jin wrote:. They often write reads that are easily back tracked on which contain words like maybe, possibly, could be.
I will lay 10 possibilities on the table, all of which certainly CAN NOT be true, and weigh them all and want to talk about them all / hear what others have to say about them all, get reads from all of that and let that influence everything and then gauge what I think is most likely to be the case, always with the caveat in mind (and often in my ramblings) that "of course maybe not"
to me it is a healthy way to play, and then from there what you need to do is judge who is just throwing around shit to cause problems and confusion, and who is actually trying to solve the game and figure things out- drealmerz7
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I truly am blessed, I guess.In post 116, Pine wrote:most sites that are not MS are essentially random lynching most of the time, or else overly rely on PRs.
My HS is more... hardcore? than here, coming here I am a little like "woahh, they're a little fast and easy with the lynching, eh??"- drealmerz7
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ooof, that is definitely not how I'm used to doing it
I mean, yeah, you get a claim and give time for ppl to get off if they want, but, the self-vote AtE-fest super-cedes all of that, imo, combined with a VT claim...yeahhhh....there's no question, all time does it give bussers time to get off or the wagon to stall and doubt to raise - it's scum tactics, in my experience anyway- drealmerz7
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I'm fucking devastated. Seriously. It's fucking bogus. Scum tactics through and through. He sells it well, but I am NOT BUYING IT. If he hadn't self-voted I MAYYYYYYYBE would have MAYYYYYBE dropped it depending on the rest of it, but, nononononono, that is just SCUMMMMMMMMMMM. And if he gets replaced because you guys let him go...omfg...graaahhhhhhhhhhhhh...."ohno they caught me replace me" - it's a fucking free passIn post 181, Pine wrote:
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This guy is WAY too disappointed at the dissolution of the Josh wagon. Why so invested in it? He was an easy lynch, looks like disappointed scum.
NOOOOO.
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well it's not, again, HS culture, no doubtIn post 187, ThinkBig wrote: I really do not like this post. This speaks more as faux outrage and feels very contrived.
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