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Post Post #13 (isolation #0) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:00 am

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VOTE: Kop
At least fakeclaim cop believably. You didn't even spell it right.
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Post Post #17 (isolation #1) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:51 am

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But he is not Yoda, he is Kop.
VOTE: EagerSnake
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Post Post #22 (isolation #2) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:12 am

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He had 1 post.
That's not enough to form a solid townread dude.
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Post Post #32 (isolation #3) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:41 am

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VOTE: Harkonnen
For faking an attempt to get out of RVS.
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Post Post #41 (isolation #4) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:07 pm

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In post 40, persephone325 wrote:I don't know who to vote for yet... Nothing's really raised any red flags for me yet.
This is RVS. Vote for whatever reason.
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Post Post #43 (isolation #5) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:12 pm

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In post 42, persephone325 wrote:
In post 41, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 40, persephone325 wrote:I don't know who to vote for yet... Nothing's really raised any red flags for me yet.
This is RVS.
I'm still new. What does that stand for?
Random Voting Stage.
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Post Post #46 (isolation #6) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:18 pm

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What in 5 posts is giving you such a strong scumread?
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Post Post #48 (isolation #7) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:31 pm

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Not really, I thought you had a solid reason to vote him.
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Post Post #54 (isolation #8) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:56 am

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This feels like the best vote.
VOTE: alban
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Post Post #56 (isolation #9) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:42 am

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Sheep me Yuria
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Post Post #65 (isolation #10) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:02 am

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LOL Eager just let the game flow, talk will happen.
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Post Post #89 (isolation #11) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:25 pm

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In post 86, texcat wrote:VOTE: FancyPants
It was odd that Hark called him town off one or two posts. But even odder to me that Fancy didn't question it.

Also I'm not wild about FireAssasin's entry and leap onto the Alban wagon without anything else. But I'm willing to give him another post.
Agreed. This wagon is better.
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Post Post #101 (isolation #12) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:03 am

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89 was me sheeping Texcat, plain and simple.
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Post Post #107 (isolation #13) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:19 am

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In post 106, Harkonnen97 wrote:free towncred for the person who puts alban at L-1
What the hell is this
Naw fuck the FancyPants wagon
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Post Post #109 (isolation #14) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:28 am

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In post 108, Harkonnen97 wrote:
In post 54, Gamma Emerald wrote:This feels like the best vote.
VOTE: alban
At the time. LOL taking my words out of context.
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Post Post #111 (isolation #15) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:42 am

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The fact you said "free towncred to the person who puts him at L-1"
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Post Post #113 (isolation #16) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:46 am

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Eager want to help me push this obvious mafian?
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Post Post #116 (isolation #17) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:02 am

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In post 115, Harkonnen97 wrote:
In post 113, Gamma Emerald wrote:Eager want to help me push this obvious mafian?
if u think im scum bussing my partner, why dont u help me bus?
Because his alignment isn't determined yet; yours is. You could be forcing a mislynch or hard bussing.
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Post Post #118 (isolation #18) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:07 am

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In post 117, FancyPants wrote:You seem quite excitable Gamma, 6 votes in 5 pages? Even if you take 3 of those as RVS that seems high.

Harks comment sounded like he was trying to maximise potential bussing on Alban.
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Post Post #127 (isolation #19) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:45 am

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My reason is not just "you said RVS", there's more to it. You were the second voter; obviously it was RVS. So why the need to specify?
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Post Post #128 (isolation #20) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:46 am

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BTW I checked, alban is not a newb.
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Post Post #133 (isolation #21) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:41 am

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@Alban the fact you said RVS makes it look like you are afraid about your vote meaning something. The reason why being a newb matters is because I did the exact same thing as town in my first game.
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Post Post #141 (isolation #22) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:18 am

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In post 140, Fire Assassin wrote:Advising quick lynch on Texcat to get game actually moving for a few reasons:
1) Light scum reading them.
2) They are voting me.

So, how about it?
That looks a bit shady, but I don't think it's malicious. However, I kinda think she is town.
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Post Post #144 (isolation #23) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:19 am

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You are shady.
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Post Post #154 (isolation #24) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:32 am

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Dude not picking up your role PM means nothing. If someone is less engaged in the game and likes a particular alignment better, that's a bit more telling.
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Post Post #156 (isolation #25) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:39 am

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In post 155, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 152, Yuria wrote:my friend I have been playing mafia way longer than you, I really don't care what you think.

There's no need to defend, but discrediting people is generally what scum do (or people too cocky for their own good). I don't think it's the later in this case.

And no, scummyiness is usually completely individual. Partner connections without flip is unnecessary and usually foolish.

"Things will unravel themselves in time" Nothing will happen unless you make it happen. Scum don't suddenly out themselves randomly. My reasons are clearly outlined in the past post and the one where I voted you; You are doing nothing to hunt. Six pages is clearly enough for a few reads or guesses, but you have none and aren't developing on them. Let me ask: You said someone on your wagon is scum. Who is your guess? You wouldn't say such a thing if you weren't looking at them already. So I wanna know if that accusation is a throwaway to get people off your back or something with *some* basis.
Its posts like this that I don't like.
Why don't you like it?
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Post Post #164 (isolation #26) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:10 am

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If you're going to say there's scum on your wagon, it's best to say who other wise it's fearmongering.
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Post Post #166 (isolation #27) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:19 am

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Also what is the deal with the green text?
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Post Post #172 (isolation #28) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:59 am

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LOL WTF is this. Voices are absolutely NAI bullshit and you should feel bad for thinking it's a real tell.
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Post Post #177 (isolation #29) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:25 pm

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In post 175, eagerSnake wrote:Gamma who is your hardest tr?
Probably texcat.
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Post Post #180 (isolation #30) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:54 pm

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Indeed. I will proceed to likely ignore everything Eager says.
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Post Post #182 (isolation #31) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:01 pm

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In post 181, Harkonnen97 wrote:
In post 162, eagerSnake wrote:Read his posts with the voice of a Sith Lord; it doesn't matter which one. It doesn't even effect the tone; that's not a good sign.
LOL

u already pocketed me senpai
Do you scumread me, or are you just shitting around?
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Post Post #184 (isolation #32) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:04 pm

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In post 183, Harkonnen97 wrote:
In post 173, eagerSnake wrote:But I hear voices in my head. They council me; they understand. They talk to me.
eager is lock town lmao
LOL this is someone to ignore as well I guess.
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Post Post #186 (isolation #33) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:07 pm

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Also the mod missed my vote for Hark
VOTE: Harkonnen97
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Post Post #191 (isolation #34) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:15 pm

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He's barely posted in other games too.
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Post Post #196 (isolation #35) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:23 pm

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51 was pretty much my vote too.
81 looks a little awkward but I wouldn't call it scummy.
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Post Post #200 (isolation #36) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:33 pm

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I'd like to townread that meta, but saying it's the same play isn't doing many favors. However he is using a personal favorite tell of mine so he can go to null for now.
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Post Post #205 (isolation #37) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:38 pm

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LOL the WIFOM is real with Hark.
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Post Post #212 (isolation #38) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:51 pm

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I think I'm just gonna throw all of this to the WIFOM wolves and declare you null.
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Post Post #221 (isolation #39) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:04 am

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In post 220, eagerSnake wrote:So who are we lynching again?
You.
VOTE: EagerSnake
You don't need to ask who to lynch; just lynch.
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Post Post #227 (isolation #40) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:30 am

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In post 226, NJAC wrote:
In post 51, Sgz13 wrote:VOTE: alban

Cause that RVS thing.
I don't like this vote, call it gut:

VOTE: Sgz13
Dude. THAT'S THE EXACT SAME REASON I VOTED!
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Post Post #235 (isolation #41) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:02 pm

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In post 234, NJAC wrote:Finished reading.

@Gamma: your vote on alban is different from Sgz's. What's your point?
It may look different but it's for the same reason: declaring "RVS" on your vote is rather stupid and looks like you are afraid of how the person you are voting will react.
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Post Post #240 (isolation #42) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:41 am

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That first thing is a common loaded question.
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Post Post #243 (isolation #43) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:10 am

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DO NOT CLICK THE LINK
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Post Post #245 (isolation #44) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:13 am

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Suuuuure...
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Post Post #247 (isolation #45) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:19 am

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Yeah yeah get back to the game, this is stupid.
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Post Post #256 (isolation #46) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:27 am

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We got time dw
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Post Post #290 (isolation #47) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:07 am

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I can understand how you thought she was a townread of mine, but I just sheeped her vote because I felt the same way.
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Post Post #291 (isolation #48) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:08 am

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Also, I'd probably lynch FA or FancyPants rn.
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Post Post #294 (isolation #49) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:13 am

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Oh yeah, whoops. I said that because she plain rejected my sheeping.
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Post Post #295 (isolation #50) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:14 am

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In post 294, Gamma Emerald wrote:Oh yeah, whoops. I said that because she plain rejected my sheeping.
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Post Post #298 (isolation #51) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:42 am

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VI = Village Idiot
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Post Post #302 (isolation #52) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:50 am

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In post 301, FancyPants wrote:Gamma in case you missed it I was asking why you find Fire Assassin and I scummy?
You for reasons texcat listed, FA for his suggestion of a quicklynch on tex for bad bad reasons.
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Post Post #304 (isolation #53) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:04 am

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140 definitely looks like something scum would say. That's the post I find scummiest in his ISO in fact.
As for the Eager vote, that was a bit of a joke vote, though what he did deserved mention.
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Post Post #307 (isolation #54) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:08 am

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...I do not follow.
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Post Post #312 (isolation #55) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:11 am

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Likely gambitting scum.
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Post Post #319 (isolation #56) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:00 am

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Nice attempt to discredit Hark.
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Post Post #338 (isolation #57) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:26 am

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Nah at least one of FA and alban is scum.
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Post Post #340 (isolation #58) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:25 am

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Goddammit I'm still on my Eager vote
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Post Post #342 (isolation #59) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:06 am

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In post 341, FancyPants wrote:
In post 338, Gamma Emerald wrote:Nah at least one of FA and alban is scum.
Why specifically those two? Why not both? Why not neither?
I said at least one, and because of their throwing shade at Hark in unison. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they both flipped scum.
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Post Post #354 (isolation #60) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:34 am

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Don't know why you're asking me specifically but sure I'll try.
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Post Post #358 (isolation #61) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:35 am

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1) I townread Hark now
2) I never threw shade like that
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Post Post #364 (isolation #62) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:59 am

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In post 140, Fire Assassin wrote:Advising quick lynch on Texcat to get game actually moving for a few reasons:
1) Light scum reading them.
2) They are voting me.

So, how about it?
Looks like pseudo-OMGUS
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In post 152, Yuria wrote:my friend I have been playing mafia way longer than you, I really don't care what you think.

There's no need to defend, but discrediting people is generally what scum do (or people too cocky for their own good). I don't think it's the later in this case.

And no, scummyiness is usually completely individual. Partner connections without flip is unnecessary and usually foolish.

"Things will unravel themselves in time" Nothing will happen unless you make it happen. Scum don't suddenly out themselves randomly. My reasons are clearly outlined in the past post and the one where I voted you; You are doing nothing to hunt. Six pages is clearly enough for a few reads or guesses, but you have none and aren't developing on them. Let me ask: You said someone on your wagon is scum. Who is your guess? You wouldn't say such a thing if you weren't looking at them already. So I wanna know if that accusation is a throwaway to get people off your back or something with *some* basis.
Its posts like this that I don't like.
First instance of throwing shade.
In post 239, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 237, texcat wrote:
In post 216, Harkonnen97 wrote:who else beside yuria is ur scumbuddy texie ?
:shifty: And when did you quit beating your wife?

Are you trying to tie me to Yuria? Why?
I have no idea what the first sentence is in reference to.

and he doesn't need to tie you to Yuria. You two are already somewhat tied.
Normally preflip associations aren't bad but this one feels different. If FA and one of Yuria and texcat flips scum the other one is likely town because of this.
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In post 253, Harkonnen97 wrote:{FancyPants}
{Gamma Emerald, Fire Assassin, eagerSnake}
{Kop, texcat, Sgz13, persephone325}
{Yuria}
{alban, NJAC}
In post 314, Harkonnen97 wrote:i kinda regret clicking "submit" so quickly, that post ^ is kinda bad lol. but i still think fire assassin is scum.
Want to explain your transition here?
This aggression feels fake. He's also doing that thing where someone gets on a person's case for not explaining exactly how their reads changed.
In post 317, Fire Assassin wrote:I don't think the inconsistency is really scummy from you. You just seem to be in your own little world here.
Throwing shade by calling Hark's sanity into question.
In post 330, Fire Assassin wrote:This game has been going on for more than a week.
Thats about a page and a half a day.
One of the players seems brain dead.

Can we get a lynch, pls?
Same as the last one.
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Post Post #366 (isolation #63) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:49 am

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BTW that was my case on Fire Assassin if you weren't aware.
What's up with that vote Eager?
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Post Post #370 (isolation #64) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:54 am

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@Eager: Are you going to adopt his habit of getting banned?
Okay so you have no explanation for your vote.
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Post Post #390 (isolation #65) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:53 am

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EagerSnake is an eager snake.
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Post Post #397 (isolation #66) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:40 am

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If she flips scum, we can try to ascertain her partners from the list.
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Post Post #405 (isolation #67) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:58 am

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I loled.
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Post Post #407 (isolation #68) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:11 am

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LOL NJAC you can't even give a real reason. Vote someone you can actually case.
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Post Post #409 (isolation #69) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:32 am

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Why are people policy lynching texcat? What has she done that would necessitate a policy lynch?
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Post Post #421 (isolation #70) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:07 pm

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In post 420, Fire Assassin wrote:You are totally the bad guy.
In other news, why hasn't texcat been lynched?
Because the only reason provided is "policy lynch".
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Post Post #424 (isolation #71) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:21 pm

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I'll look myself and see if I can find anything.
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Post Post #431 (isolation #72) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:22 pm

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In post 429, Fire Assassin wrote: There's a few unsaid rules on how to get townread easily.
1) post frequently
Scum version: post spamming
2) don't filter yourself
Might work, but I doubt it.
3) don't let someone else define you and always reframe an argument over arguing some label someone gives you.
What does that even mean?
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Post Post #446 (isolation #73) » Sat Oct 22, 2016 4:48 am

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VOTE: NJAC
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Post Post #448 (isolation #74) » Sat Oct 22, 2016 5:32 am

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In post 28, NJAC wrote:
In post 27, eagerSnake wrote:I'm town
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Yeah, very good post. I'm happy with my vote on you.
this
In post 226, NJAC wrote:
In post 51, Sgz13 wrote:VOTE: alban

Cause that RVS thing.
I don't like this vote, call it gut:

VOTE: Sgz13
In post 234, NJAC wrote:Finished reading.

@Gamma: your vote on alban is different from Sgz's. What's your point?
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Post Post #451 (isolation #75) » Sat Oct 22, 2016 5:48 am

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That's not a back-and-forth.
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Post Post #464 (isolation #76) » Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:47 am

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You're voting him too dude.
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Post Post #485 (isolation #77) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:07 am

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In post 483, NJAC wrote:Can't post much on weekends. Kop seems town. There's scum on my wagon. Don't have time today to find out who, though.
Sweet accusation. Not giving me any confidence in you being town.
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Post Post #491 (isolation #78) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:47 am

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What I believe Hark is saying is "if it's the only option, flip it"
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Post Post #508 (isolation #79) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:57 pm

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In post 507, Fire Assassin wrote:Was I supposed to respond to something here?
probably not
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Post Post #512 (isolation #80) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:13 pm

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@FA: who do think is scum with texcat?
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Post Post #514 (isolation #81) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:14 pm

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Yup.
Fire Assassin is a Firebringer alt.
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Post Post #552 (isolation #82) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:36 am

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In post 542, MiniDeathStar wrote:Because he's an easy lynch and they are the ones who made it happen. Harkonnen drove the wagon, but they are the ones who gave it momentum. Also they never had strong suspicions on him, they only hopped on the lynch once a universal town read invited people to do it. I guess they thought they can try to shift the blame onto Hark tomorrow, and claim how scummy NJAC was and how they were all doing us a favour.

(Again, this is only if NJAC is town. If he's scum, then I don't know.)
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Post Post #553 (isolation #83) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:37 am

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In post 545, farside22 wrote:
In post 538, MiniDeathStar wrote:I think NJAC is the VI. I think scum plays a lot more carefully than he does.

Farside and Gamma instantly sheeped NJAC as soon as you Harkonnen said that. What did Gamma say? "this. this. this." More manufactured tells.

I'm not sure what farside is. She reads somewhat town, but she's very experienced so I don't know. I liked her initially for pushing on Gamma but then she dropped the vote and went on NJAC. Just like that. He wasn't even one of her scum reads. She could have been bussing Gamma for all I know.

Yuria, Kop and Harkonnen feel town for now.

I think Fire Assassin feels town, too.

Unsure on FancyPants, but if Gamma is scum, I doubt Fancy is scum.

Not a lot on eagersnake or persephone. Eager is the more suspicious of the two.

Texcat looks scummy. But the fact everyone else think she is scummy makes me doubt that read somewhat. Then again, why are so few people voting her?

NJAC is most likely a VI.
I have NJAC on my scum list at the end of my post.

His game here as I said is nothing like are last game together.
He's more lurky, only one scum read, nothing else of value here.

I don't disagree with Gamma, he completely in gores my question plus you have the hark scum read to sheeping hark.

Yes I think they are scum together.
Look how little Gamma has tried to push that scum read.
It's a town read now on Hark, silly.
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Post Post #555 (isolation #84) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:05 am

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I have more but that's what I felt I needed to respond to upon catching up.
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Post Post #556 (isolation #85) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:08 am

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Me saying "this and this are why I scumread X" is not a manufactured read(WTF is a manufactured tell?). Look for contradictions, not nitpicks(which someone took issue with me doing I believe).
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Post Post #557 (isolation #86) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:10 am

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Actually I don't know why I'm letting this slip by at all.
VOTE: eagerSnake
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Post Post #558 (isolation #87) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:17 am

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In post 64, eagerSnake wrote:ok guys dont be shy there is a caviat to being inactive
Trying to force discussion while not actually discussing anything. Scum satisfied with the game state trying to fake town dissatisfied with the game state.
In post 162, eagerSnake wrote:Read his posts with the voice of a Sith Lord; it doesn't matter which one. It doesn't even effect the tone; that's not a good sign.
BSed reads people?
In post 220, eagerSnake wrote:So who are we lynching again?
Town should not ask this question. Town votes their scum reads.
In post 371, eagerSnake wrote:I did it for the lulz
Still RVS voting apparently. WHY IS HE RVS VOTING ON PAGE 20-SOMETHING?
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Post Post #561 (isolation #88) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:34 am

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LOL I can't change who I push? I've seen people being idiots about me changing my reads but this is something else. I CAN'T DECIDE TO CHANGE MY FOCUS AS TOWN? WTF LOGIC IS THAT?
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Post Post #562 (isolation #89) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:48 am

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In post 559, MiniDeathStar wrote:Fake scumhunting. If you're scum and you know someone isn't but want to lynch them, you have to make up reasons. I feel like this is what you've been doing for a good part of the game. "Pseudo OMGUS"? "Throwing shade"? What do these even mean?

You've been voting pretty much everybody this game. You FOSed Harkonnen and FancyPants. Then you made some weak case on Fire Assassin, then you abandoned it when nobody seemed interested. Then switched to Eager. Then to NJAC. Is that not a contradiction?

Your defence was literally "IDGAF about you". You never asked me what I thought was fake about you until I prompted you to.

You never addressed any of farside's concerns. She's been voting you the longest. Why are you ignoring her?

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OMGUS = voting/scumreading someone because they voted/scumread you.
Throwing shade is harder to define. It's a general term for attacks like ad hominem.
Hark vote was because he was pushing a lynch in a bad way. I townread him most of the day, including now.
FancyPants was legit me sheeping texcat's reasoning(sheeping means you have the exact same reason). Is it a crime to agree with people?
I switched off FA because I felt like it. If I had multiple votes, one would have likely been left on FA when I switched to Eager.
As for NJAC, I was of the opinion that a deadline wagon needed to be avoided. Now IDGAF as evidenced by my vote on EagerSnake.
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Post Post #577 (isolation #90) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:40 am

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I understand what Hark is trying to say and I both see it and don't see it.
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Post Post #580 (isolation #91) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:42 am

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I think it is the best play for NJAC to claim now so we can avoid rushing in the last hour to form another wagon.
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Post Post #588 (isolation #92) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:51 am

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I've seen this "lynch the VT claim" idea before and while I don't necessarily agree with it, if EagerSnake doesn't get a wagon on him I'm fine with voting NJAC.
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Post Post #594 (isolation #93) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:55 am

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How is that scumhunting
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Post Post #599 (isolation #94) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:05 am

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In post 596, NJAC wrote:
In post 594, Gamma Emerald wrote:How is that scumhunting
Seeing who would be willing to vote a scum read and who wouldn't. That's scum hunt in my book.
I understand now.
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Post Post #637 (isolation #95) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:00 am

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@NJAC how far are you?
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Post Post #640 (isolation #96) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:05 am

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@MiniDeathStar you seem to be scumreading me and Eager. Is this correct?
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Post Post #644 (isolation #97) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:20 am

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Also, MDS has pretty much said "I'm going after Gamma no matter what NJAC flips". No townread for you.
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Post Post #646 (isolation #98) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:24 am

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LOL you aren't paying attention at all.
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Post Post #649 (isolation #99) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:25 am

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In post 642, NJAC wrote:
In post 559, MiniDeathStar wrote:Fake scumhunting. If you're scum and you know someone isn't but want to lynch them, you have to make up reasons. I feel like this is what you've been doing for a good part of the game. "Pseudo OMGUS"? "Throwing shade"? What do these even mean?

You've been voting pretty much everybody this game. You FOSed Harkonnen and FancyPants. Then you made some weak case on Fire Assassin, then you abandoned it when nobody seemed interested. Then switched to Eager. Then to NJAC. Is that not a contradiction?

Your defence was literally "IDGAF about you". You never asked me what I thought was fake about you until I prompted you to.

You never addressed any of farside's concerns. She's been voting you the longest. Why are you ignoring her?

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Oh, more posts while I was typing. Okay so NOW you switched to eagerSnake once again? What the hell?
@Harko: Jail Mini tonight. They're a valuable player.

And Gamma is scum:

VOTE: Gamma
In post 645, NJAC wrote:Go, go the Gamma lynch.

I finished catching up.

Gamma and farside are scum reads.

LET'S LYNCH GAMMA. Thanks!

VOTE: Gamma
This is what I'm talking about.
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Post Post #653 (isolation #100) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:29 am

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I scumread you NJAC.
I don't really expect you to like my case. I'm a scumread of yours. Why would you trust me?
My point was that you just voted me twice.

And I answered your questions in reverse order.
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Post Post #656 (isolation #101) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:35 am

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I scumread you because you play feels a bit unfocused and it appears to me that you are scum because of that.
Do you townread Eager, and if so, why?
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Post Post #660 (isolation #102) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:42 am

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Why did you vote me two posts in a row?
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Post Post #665 (isolation #103) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:46 am

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Post Post #668 (isolation #104) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:52 am

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About farside: I kinda feel like she is town with how she has been playing, may reISO and try to reorganize because I've mostly been playing the forward game.
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Post Post #670 (isolation #105) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:00 am

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Not liking farside's early posts on reread. They were a large part of why I townread them so that is a major change.
VOTE: farside22
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Post Post #673 (isolation #106) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:18 am

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In post 671, Harkonnen97 wrote:this is some epic bussing lol

i think if NJAC flips scum, the scumteam is {NJAC, Gamma, Farside}
UM
I think one flip isn't enough to conclude that, especially him.
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Post Post #701 (isolation #107) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:37 am

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In post 689, farside22 wrote:
In post 661, NJAC wrote:What's your read on farside, @Gamma?
My iso isn't that big to find that already explained.
In post 662, NJAC wrote:
In post 660, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why did you vote me two posts in a row?
To try to gain more attention towards your wagon.
In post 664, FancyPants wrote:Farside is a minor scum read, her scum reads seem pretty convinient.
Would you mind posting that Gamma scum game?
In post 668, Gamma Emerald wrote:About farside: I kinda feel like she is town with how she has been playing, may reISO and try to reorganize because I've mostly been playing the forward game.
In post 670, Gamma Emerald wrote:Not liking farside's early posts on reread. They were a large part of why I townread them so that is a major change.
VOTE: farside22
Look at that scum 180 degree turn around.
Fascinating.
'Scuse me? how does that scum game relate to my vote?
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Post Post #708 (isolation #108) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:59 am

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Given how directionless persephone was while in, I can agree with that sentiment.
VOTE: persephone325
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Post Post #730 (isolation #109) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:18 am

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In post 658, NJAC wrote:
In post 656, Gamma Emerald wrote:I scumread you because you play feels a bit unfocused and it appears to me that you are scum because of that.
Do you townread Eager, and if so, why?
Eager is null. I'm not a fan of his posts, but him not giving a f..k and joking around kinda feels townish.

If I feel unfocused it's because I haven't had the time to properly engage in this game. But I'm finding the time now, so if you need clarification about my thoughts this is the time to ask.
This post expresses why I feel he is town. He had a big activity gap which resulted in his opinions changing seemingly very fast. The main thing that was holding me up at that point was the repeat votes and he explained that so I have him as a townlean.
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Post Post #731 (isolation #110) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:18 am

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That was in response to MDS BTW.
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Post Post #732 (isolation #111) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:18 am

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In post 724, MiniDeathStar wrote:
In post 722, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 721, MiniDeathStar wrote:
Why is everybody ignoring
the complete and total turnaround in attitude in both NJAC and Gamma Emerald?
A gamma lynch isn't going to happen today.
Elephant. Room. Etc etc.
WTF?
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Post Post #739 (isolation #112) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:29 am

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@MDS: Wow. Did you not see that Fire Assassin voted persephone first?
If FA flips scum please powerlynch MDS.
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Post Post #756 (isolation #113) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:46 am

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WTF is Nike?
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Post Post #762 (isolation #114) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:51 am

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persephone is at L-2
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Post Post #767 (isolation #115) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:17 am

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=67979
Total spazz Day 1.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=68310
Day 1 and Day 2: wishy-washy except for my vote on Doomfeathers/Loopdan.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=68156
LOOK AT DAY 3. I VOTED ALMOST IMMEDIATELY.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=68495
Was tunnely here but the strategy is very different than any other game.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=68299
My scum game. I'm pretty sure I was more tunnely here than in most games where there wasn't a huge gimmick(see the last game for more).
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=68380
Kept flipping between two people Day 1.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=68345
Unfocused pretty much every Day until Day 4 I believe. Detailed by EagerSnake already.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=68707
This is the only Town game which is both one where I was tunnely and had a setup that didn't revolve around a gimmick(there was a gimmick but it was minor).

Basically, as town I'll usually be erratic at least once per game.
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Post Post #776 (isolation #116) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:20 am

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In post 775, farside22 wrote:
In post 763, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 759, farside22 wrote:
In post 736, eagerSnake wrote:Gamma wagons every chance he gets as town it's a NAI thing for him - he just changes his mind frequently. I think I already said this.
Link?
As I said I did a quick search and only got through 2 games that had him more tunnelling then voting whatever wagon appeared.
In this mini normal he was town and on the following wagons-

D1- Grendel, CCC, Square World, CCC, Manuel87, eagerSnake,

D2- CCC, VictorDeAngelo,

D3- The_Jester, gerryoat, Huntress,

D4- malpascp

So, 6 wagons D1, 2 wagons D2, 3 wagons D3, and then the only wagon D4

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
Ummm maybe I'm wrong but I'll see if I'm crazy when I ask one simple thing.
You do realize hes tunneling the same 3 players for a good part of day 1, how does that read the same thing here?
Wow cannot read there's five separate people there. The point is not that I'm not tunnely as town: it's that I vote wildly as town.
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Post Post #785 (isolation #117) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:53 am

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@Farside:
1) Still something to hold your slot accountable for.
2-4) Not really anything to comment on just pointing out the error in 1.
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Post Post #797 (isolation #118) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:34 pm

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That wording doesn't look right.
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Post Post #799 (isolation #119) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:36 pm

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Post Post #801 (isolation #120) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:11 pm

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These posts are what make me think persephone is scum.
In post 40, persephone325 wrote:I don't know who to vote for yet... Nothing's really raised any red flags for me yet.
Sounds like she hasn't seen anything she can push yet.
In post 82, persephone325 wrote:UNVOTE: Kop

Kop seems reasonable and logical, at least in my opinion. For my new vote, I'm in between FancyPants and Hark because I just find it odd that Fancy voted for Alban for his vote against Campion because he said it was a random vote. (Hope that made sense? lol) Isn't that what this vote is supposed to be? And Hark was immediately like "Oh, Fancy must be town."

That's my feelings on one little thing, though.
Why no vote? She expressed a scum read here. Making
In post 131, persephone325 wrote:I still feel suspicion towards FancyPants and Hark for the reason I stated before. Just so I don't have a no-vote on my record, I'm gonna VOTE: Hark. And there's still time left in the voting, so I can change it later if need be.
Even more awkward. Why not vote him before?
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Post Post #805 (isolation #121) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:28 pm

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In post 803, MiniDeathStar wrote:Gamma, she feels like she's totally new to the game. I think she's just being super careful with her vote and afraid of lynching a townie.
But why not vote in the post she expressed the scumread in?
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Post Post #833 (isolation #122) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:45 am

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People I know:
Fire Assassin(his main was part of a hydra in the game where I was scum)
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Everyone else I have no experience with I can disclose at least.
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Post Post #836 (isolation #123) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:05 am

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@Kop:
In post 82, persephone325 wrote:UNVOTE: Kop

Kop seems reasonable and logical, at least in my opinion. For my new vote, I'm in between FancyPants and Hark because I just find it odd that Fancy voted for Alban for his vote against Campion because he said it was a random vote. (Hope that made sense? lol) Isn't that what this vote is supposed to be? And Hark was immediately like "Oh, Fancy must be town."

That's my feelings on one little thing, though.
Expresses suspicion
In post 131, persephone325 wrote:I still feel suspicion towards FancyPants and Hark for the reason I stated before. Just so I don't have a no-vote on my record, I'm gonna VOTE: Hark. And there's still time left in the voting, so I can change it later if need be.
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Post Post #842 (isolation #124) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:56 am

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Actually looking back on that it looks even worse because I voted Hark the page before. Looks like waiting for an opportunity to make the vote look good.
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Post Post #864 (isolation #125) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:35 am

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...And yet you think I'm scummy.
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Post Post #866 (isolation #126) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:45 am

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In post 865, MiniDeathStar wrote:Farside didn't you just say you were super uncomfortable with Flubber's wagon?
That's what I just said.
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Post Post #870 (isolation #127) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:33 am

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I think Flubber is better than tex because I townread tex for her saying "don't sheep me". Why the fuck would scum say that?
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Post Post #873 (isolation #128) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:36 am

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Hm. That's a good point but coming from Mr. "I'm so not town" it's not really that much.
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Post Post #874 (isolation #129) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:37 am

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Wow I sound like a dick.
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Post Post #877 (isolation #130) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:39 am

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I'll reread tex discounting that statement and give you my thoughts.
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Post Post #881 (isolation #131) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:58 am

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Hm tex's popping out of the abyss to put Flubber at L-1 does not sit right with me.
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Post Post #882 (isolation #132) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:00 pm

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However, that's my only major problem with tex as I agree with her on FA.
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Post Post #894 (isolation #133) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:11 pm

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Okay you believe I am scum regardless of NJAC's alignment but his alignment can determine mine?
??????
This feels like BS.
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Post Post #902 (isolation #134) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:54 pm

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@MDS: I had a small suspicion of NJAC from his saying that my reason for voting Alban was not the same as Sgz's when it clearly was. Felt a bit misreppy to me. And my FA wagon wasn't gaining traction so I moved my vote to one I felt okay with. I also didn't really object to the current voters.
And if you want to reply with "but Gamma, you split off to vote EagerSnake!", look at my Mini 1840 game you'll see that I've tried to do a deadline wagon before. And I still believe Eager is scum, but it's obviously down to 2 right now and we have <30 hours so that's not likely.
Hopefully that clears up why I voted NJAC. If anyone still does not get something please just ask.
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Post Post #948 (isolation #135) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:31 am

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Post Post #1489 (isolation #136) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:14 pm

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In post 1465, MiniDeathStar wrote:Good job townies!

I see I was right about Gamma and farside22. Do I owe you an "I told you so" y/y? ;)
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Post Post #1502 (isolation #137) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:17 pm

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Wow Eager really bunged his N1 shot
he should have waited for claim
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