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Post Post #15 (isolation #0) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:46 am

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VOTE: eagersnake

I like wagons.
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Post Post #28 (isolation #1) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:15 am

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In post 27, eagerSnake wrote:I'm town
:roll:

Yeah, very good post. I'm happy with my vote on you.
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Post Post #31 (isolation #2) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:37 am

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Ok.
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Post Post #39 (isolation #3) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:01 pm

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In post 38, persephone325 wrote:Finally got some down time. Been busy with midterms and studying. Sorry.

Also, hello everyone. ^^
Hi. Where's your vote?
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Post Post #58 (isolation #4) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:01 am

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In post 57, Harkonnen97 wrote:no me

NJAC is scummy cant u guise see
Ok, you've got my attention. Why am I scummy?
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Post Post #76 (isolation #5) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:30 am

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@Mod: V/LA through the weekend.
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Post Post #222 (isolation #6) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:47 am

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I'm back. Reading...
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Post Post #224 (isolation #7) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:22 am

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In post 68, Harkonnen97 wrote:u are trying to paint off post as scummy when it isn't.
Nah.
In post 69, Kop wrote:It's something I wouldn't vote for, because it isn't exactly a legitimate reason I'd vote someone for.
But my vote on him wasn't for that post. Also, what's a legitimate reason for voting someone during RVS?
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Post Post #225 (isolation #8) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:27 am

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In post 88, Harkonnen97 wrote:townreading yuria too BTW
I can agree with this.
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Post Post #226 (isolation #9) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:28 am

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In post 51, Sgz13 wrote:VOTE: alban

Cause that RVS thing.
I don't like this vote, call it gut:

VOTE: Sgz13
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Post Post #228 (isolation #10) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:31 am

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In post 97, Harkonnen97 wrote:
In post 93, texcat wrote:If you are town, it is your responsibility to scum hunt. I think that questioning town reads is a good way to do that.
why didnt
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question my townread then? following ur own logic, wouldn't town!texcat do that?
I like this post. Harko can be town.
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Post Post #230 (isolation #11) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:40 am

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is a bad post. I'm not liking alban's kinda over reaction for an early wagon. He can go to the scum side of null.
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Post Post #231 (isolation #12) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:40 am

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In post 229, Harkonnen97 wrote:NJAC, in all of our games, u always townread me, dont u? :^)
I think. What's your point?
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Post Post #232 (isolation #13) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:41 am

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I think I like your playstyle and I don't remember you being scum, but I'll have to check.
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Post Post #233 (isolation #14) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:43 am

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In post 227, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 226, NJAC wrote:
In post 51, Sgz13 wrote:VOTE: alban

Cause that RVS thing.
I don't like this vote, call it gut:

VOTE: Sgz13
Dude. THAT'S THE EXACT SAME REASON I VOTED!
What are you talking about? I'm catching up and haven't finished reading.
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Post Post #234 (isolation #15) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:43 am

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Finished reading.

@Gamma: your vote on alban is different from Sgz's. What's your point?
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Post Post #373 (isolation #16) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:34 am

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Sorry guys, busy days. Going to read in a while.
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Post Post #381 (isolation #17) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:57 am

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In post 217, Sgz13 wrote:Sorry for inactivity. Not likely to improve this week, but I'll try. Anyways, strong town read on Eager and medium strength one on Hark, Yuria and Gamma.

In terms of scum reads, nothing is making me want to move off of Alban. Seems more worried about himself than anything else, clear scum mentality. Everyone else is pretty null atm.
I don't like this post, not sure how to explain but these reads don't look quite genuine.

Still labeling this slot as scum.
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Post Post #382 (isolation #18) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:59 am

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I like FancyPants' . Agree with almost all he said. He can go to my town pile.

He should vote Sgz's slot with me, btw.
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Post Post #387 (isolation #19) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:23 am

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The correct lynch is Sgz/farside.
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Post Post #388 (isolation #20) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:24 am

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VOTE: farside22
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Post Post #401 (isolation #21) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:39 am

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Yuria remains a town read. Firebringer seems also town. Harko is now null, I don't like his ego posts.
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Post Post #402 (isolation #22) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:40 am

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I think texcat is lynchbait. You should sheep me.
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Post Post #406 (isolation #23) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:04 am

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In post 403, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 402, NJAC wrote:I think texcat is lynchbait. You should sheep me.
Go on......
That's it, just vote farside with me.
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Post Post #408 (isolation #24) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:28 am

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Yeah, I can't really back it up because it's kinda gut feeling, but I've seen newbscum posting like this.

However your case on FA is not exactly a good one, so you should seriously sheep me.
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Post Post #410 (isolation #25) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:33 am

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Exactly.
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Post Post #483 (isolation #26) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:57 am

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Can't post much on weekends. Kop seems town. There's scum on my wagon. Don't have time today to find out who, though.
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Post Post #567 (isolation #27) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:13 am

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Back and reading.

Expect good content in a while...
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Post Post #570 (isolation #28) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:22 am

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In post 427, Harkonnen97 wrote:Do you townread and scumread people based on how much you personally like them?

If not - what does ego have to do with my alignment?
No, I don't townread or scumread people based on that.

Your ego posts are not good content, they don't help to game solve, they're fluff. They're not townish.
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Post Post #573 (isolation #29) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:34 am

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alban is town, his posts in page 19 are town.
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Post Post #574 (isolation #30) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:34 am

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In post 572, MiniDeathStar wrote:NJAC, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the rest of the town. Who do you think is scummy and who isn't?
Working on that. I'm catching up.
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Post Post #575 (isolation #31) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:36 am

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In post 571, Harkonnen97 wrote:
In post 570, NJAC wrote:
No, I don't townread or scumread people based on that.
In post 570, NJAC wrote:
They're not townish
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this needs to eat rope.
Yeah, that's totally a contradiction from my part. Good job champ :wink:.
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Post Post #579 (isolation #32) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:42 am

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In post 460, alban wrote:And suddenly five people were ready to vote for NJAC?
That was like a quicksand.
I hope I am not defending NJAC wrongly. And doing his job for him.
NJAC where are you? Start defending yourself :)
You're doing a good job. I'm trying to understand the "cases" on me to defend myself, but I still don't see them.
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Post Post #581 (isolation #33) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:42 am

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In post 578, FancyPants wrote:Still happy with lynching NJAC.

I think we can all agree a no lynch would be an extremely bad result.
Please get all hands on deck.

If you're scum ignore this and continue to lurk.
Again, what's your case on me?
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Post Post #582 (isolation #34) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:43 am

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In post 580, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think it is the best play for NJAC to claim now so we can avoid rushing in the last hour to form another wagon.
VT here.
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Post Post #590 (isolation #35) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:52 am

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Kop is also town. I like his .

Gamma looks scummy.

Farside's posts seem similar to those of a game I played with her and she was scum. Still scum reading this slot.
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Post Post #591 (isolation #36) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:52 am

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In post 588, Gamma Emerald wrote:I've seen this "lynch the VT claim" idea before and while I don't necessarily agree with it, if EagerSnake doesn't get a wagon on him I'm fine with voting NJAC.
Yeah, this is from scum:

VOTE: Gamma
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Post Post #593 (isolation #37) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:54 am

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In post 583, FancyPants wrote:
In post 579, NJAC wrote:
In post 460, alban wrote:And suddenly five people were ready to vote for NJAC?
That was like a quicksand.
I hope I am not defending NJAC wrongly. And doing his job for him.
NJAC where are you? Start defending yourself :)
You're doing a good job. I'm trying to understand the "cases" on me to defend myself, but I still don't see them.
Process of elimination through town reads and I see no genuine interest in hunting scum at all.
You were perfectly happy to keep quiet while the town flailed, pretty scummy behaviour.
Yeah, I haven't had much time for this game. I did some scum hunt when I asked people to sheep me.

I wasn't happy about the quiet game, I just didn't have the time.
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Post Post #595 (isolation #38) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:55 am

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In post 592, Harkonnen97 wrote:hey scumfuck, whats ur read on me?
I'm a townfuck, and I have no idea about your alignment. I said before that you are null.
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Post Post #596 (isolation #39) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:56 am

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In post 594, Gamma Emerald wrote:How is that scumhunting
Seeing who would be willing to vote a scum read and who wouldn't. That's scum hunt in my book.
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Post Post #598 (isolation #40) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:58 am

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In post 595, NJAC wrote:
In post 592, Harkonnen97 wrote:hey scumfuck, whats ur read on me?
I'm a townfuck, and I have no idea about your alignment. I said before that you are null.
I can see town motivations for your pushes, including this push on me.
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Post Post #600 (isolation #41) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:05 am

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In post 485, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 483, NJAC wrote:Can't post much on weekends. Kop seems town. There's scum on my wagon. Don't have time today to find out who, though.
Sweet accusation. Not giving me any confidence in you being town.
I've seen scum opportunistically jumping on my wagon in other games, in which I haven't been active enough. I've been lynchbait before. So it's safe to assume that at least one scum jumped on it. I think you and farside are good candidates for scum on my wagon. It's more than a sweet accusation.
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Post Post #602 (isolation #42) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:07 am

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In post 486, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 480, alban wrote:Hark, you don't respond to me when I ask you questions. You ignore me. So I gave up on interacting with you.
And now you dumping on me when I am talking to someone else. Why? Why is it so difficult to make this game a good experience?
Never again will I play with you.
Mod, I don't care about this game anymore. Please replace me.
Town post.
Agree. Alban's slot is town.
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Post Post #603 (isolation #43) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:08 am

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In post 601, Harkonnen97 wrote:btw if NJAC flips scum, vig should consider shooting Gamma. this kinda looks like last-ditch-effort distancing between the two imo.
:facepalm:

Why are you playing idiot?
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Post Post #605 (isolation #44) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:11 am

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In post 487, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 475, The_Jester wrote:Harkonnen97, FancyPants, farside22, GammaEmerald
I remember promising myself I would stop analyzing who was on a train before a damn flip, but beyond FancyPants here. I don't trust the judgement of any of the players on this lynch (Maybe Farside if she could show me an alignment), so I am wondering why its the leading wagon.

I also strangely feel the same way Farside felt about Texcat wagon. Indifferent and don't want to support it.
FireBringer is town, guys.

I need to review Fancypants, but I remember that slot being a town read.
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Post Post #606 (isolation #45) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:13 am

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In post 604, Harkonnen97 wrote:didnt u want him dead?

why are u expressing dissatisfaction at me suggesting for him to get vigged?
Your premise is wrong. You say he's scum distancing, and you´re assuming I'll flip scum.

If we were scum together this wouldn't be the best play from our part.
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Post Post #623 (isolation #46) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:31 am

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Fire Assasin's case on texcat in is very weak. Texcat is null.
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Post Post #624 (isolation #47) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:32 am

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In post 619, MiniDeathStar wrote:NJAC, to be totally honest Harkonnen asked a very reasonable question. Why are you opposed to a vig-kill on Gamma?
I never said I'm opposed to a vig-kill on Gamma.
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Post Post #627 (isolation #48) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:33 am

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In post 607, Harkonnen97 wrote:u want him dead right?

why do u care if the "premise" is wrong, if the result is right?
I care because you want to lynch me.
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Post Post #629 (isolation #49) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:36 am

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In post 612, farside22 wrote:
In post 590, NJAC wrote:Kop is also town. I like his .

Gamma looks scummy.

Farside's posts seem similar to those of a game I played with her and she was scum. Still scum reading this slot.
HI Mr. Vague you care to explain or you throwing shit to see where it sticks.

The amount of hypocrisy I've read from NJAC makes me want to drink a lot.
Open 650. People can ISO you in that game.
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Post Post #630 (isolation #50) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:37 am

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Harko was also in that game.
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Post Post #631 (isolation #51) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:39 am

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In post 523, Harkonnen97 wrote:texcat is a VI
it looks like ur case on her doesnt take that into consideration
I kind of agree with this.
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Post Post #634 (isolation #52) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:48 am

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In post 538, MiniDeathStar wrote:I think NJAC is the VI. I think scum plays a lot more carefully than he does.

Farside and Gamma instantly sheeped NJAC as soon as you Harkonnen said that. What did Gamma say? "this. this. this." More manufactured tells.

I'm not sure what farside is. She reads somewhat town, but she's very experienced so I don't know. I liked her initially for pushing on Gamma but then she dropped the vote and went on NJAC. Just like that. He wasn't even one of her scum reads. She could have been bussing Gamma for all I know.

Yuria, Kop and Harkonnen feel town for now.

I think Fire Assassin feels town, too.

Unsure on FancyPants, but if Gamma is scum, I doubt Fancy is scum.

Not a lot on eagersnake or persephone. Eager is the more suspicious of the two.

Texcat looks scummy. But the fact everyone else think she is scummy makes me doubt that read somewhat. Then again, why are so few people voting her?

NJAC is most likely a VI.
I don't consider myself a VI, but I can see why I'm lynchbait. I agree with most of what Mini says here.

There's scum in {Gamma, farside}.
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Post Post #636 (isolation #53) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:50 am

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In post 540, FancyPants wrote:@NJAC, will you give us your reads considering you look like a likely lynch candidate at this point?
Also why do you believe their are scum on your wagon?
Already answered, let me know if you want me to elaborate on something.

Still finishing catching up.
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Post Post #638 (isolation #54) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:01 am

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In post 544, MiniDeathStar wrote:
In post 543, FancyPants wrote: Maybe. Town could just have been wrong in that scenario though. I would be more interested in the people who "knew" the NJAC wagon was a bad one, he hasn't done anything that screams town in my estimation.
Who are these people other than me? Alban (whom I replaced) suspected NJAC, too. Like, everyone is saying NJAC is scummy but somehow can't quite put their finger on it. His reads are weak. So are Gamma's and Eager's reads. Where are their wagons? He hasn't said a whole lot. Neither has eager. Where's that wagon?

NJAC didn't panic with the sudden lynch on him. I think that's a town reaction. I agree his reads are weak, but it feels like he's relying more on intuition and can't quite express himself in words. He doesn't nitpick the way Gamma does.

I also think it's very scumvenient that NJAC's wagon appeared this close to the deadline when it would be too late to derail it. I feel like if NJAC was scum, his partners wouldn't have allowed that to happen. They would have steered it towards some other lurker. Who gains anything by bussing NJAC right now? I don't think anybody does.
Yeah, this is why my wagon is bad. I agree with all this.
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Post Post #639 (isolation #55) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:01 am

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In post 637, Gamma Emerald wrote:@NJAC how far are you?
The post I just quoted.
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Post Post #642 (isolation #56) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:08 am

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In post 559, MiniDeathStar wrote:Fake scumhunting. If you're scum and you know someone isn't but want to lynch them, you have to make up reasons. I feel like this is what you've been doing for a good part of the game. "Pseudo OMGUS"? "Throwing shade"? What do these even mean?

You've been voting pretty much everybody this game. You FOSed Harkonnen and FancyPants. Then you made some weak case on Fire Assassin, then you abandoned it when nobody seemed interested. Then switched to Eager. Then to NJAC. Is that not a contradiction?

Your defence was literally "IDGAF about you". You never asked me what I thought was fake about you until I prompted you to.

You never addressed any of farside's concerns. She's been voting you the longest. Why are you ignoring her?

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Oh, more posts while I was typing. Okay so NOW you switched to eagerSnake once again? What the hell?
@Harko: Jail Mini tonight. They're a valuable player.

And Gamma is scum:

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Post Post #645 (isolation #57) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:22 am

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Go, go the Gamma lynch.

I finished catching up.

Gamma and farside are scum reads.

LET'S LYNCH GAMMA. Thanks!

VOTE: Gamma
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Post Post #647 (isolation #58) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:24 am

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@Harko: Gamma is the correct lynch. Switch to that.
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Post Post #648 (isolation #59) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:25 am

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In post 646, Gamma Emerald wrote:LOL you aren't paying attention at all.
Why? What am I missing?
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Post Post #651 (isolation #60) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:28 am

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I don't see your point @Gamma.

I also don't like your case on Eager.

Also, do you scumread me or townread me?
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Post Post #652 (isolation #61) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:29 am

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In post 650, FancyPants wrote:My problem with Gamma is that he's so consistently inconsistent that it makes him hard to read.
That said he kinda
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Basically I disagree with him but I see town intent there. I'm struggling to come to terms with scum-gamma that has constructed all these elaborate theories as well as town and scum reads.

Gamma just being a VI feels correct.
Ok, I can understand this if considering Gamma as VI.

What do you think about farside?
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Post Post #654 (isolation #62) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:31 am

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Y'know I've been thinking that my wagon could have been a counter wagon to texcat's wagon. Thoughts anyone?
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Post Post #655 (isolation #63) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:33 am

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In post 653, Gamma Emerald wrote:I scumread you NJAC.
I don't really expect you to like my case. I'm a scumread of yours. Why would you trust me?
My point was that you just voted me twice.

And I answered your questions in reverse order.
Why do you scumread me? You don't seem interested in determining my alignment but in mislynching me.

Do you have any question to me?

I'm still trying to get a read from you. I don't trust you but I see some value in asking you questions.
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Post Post #657 (isolation #64) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:38 am

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In post 546, farside22 wrote:Here was the recent game were he fought when he was wagoned.

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Tell me why he's town?
Tell me why I'm scum.

What do exactly you see in that ISO that makes you think my alignment in this game is different from that game?

On the other hand, your ISO in that game (in which you were scum) shows a similar posting style to this one.
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Post Post #658 (isolation #65) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:41 am

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In post 656, Gamma Emerald wrote:I scumread you because you play feels a bit unfocused and it appears to me that you are scum because of that.
Do you townread Eager, and if so, why?
Eager is null. I'm not a fan of his posts, but him not giving a f..k and joking around kinda feels townish.

If I feel unfocused it's because I haven't had the time to properly engage in this game. But I'm finding the time now, so if you need clarification about my thoughts this is the time to ask.
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Post Post #659 (isolation #66) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:41 am

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And I answered your questions in reverse order.
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Post Post #661 (isolation #67) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:43 am

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What's your read on farside, @Gamma?
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Post Post #662 (isolation #68) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:43 am

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In post 660, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why did you vote me two posts in a row?
To try to gain more attention towards your wagon.
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Post Post #663 (isolation #69) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:44 am

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In fact I think I voted you three times.
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Post Post #666 (isolation #70) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:48 am

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In post 664, FancyPants wrote:Farside is a minor scum read, her scum reads seem pretty convinient.
Would you mind posting that Gamma scum game?
Am I scummier in your eyes than her?
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Post Post #667 (isolation #71) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:50 am

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I kind of feel better about Gamma, farside should be lynched:

VOTE: Farside
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Post Post #669 (isolation #72) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:57 am

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@All: Vote farside for epic D1 scum lynch.
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Post Post #678 (isolation #73) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:33 am

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In post 672, FancyPants wrote:I don't really like Farside as an alternative to NJAC.

Textcat or Persephone would be better.
No man, those are not good lynches. Well, maybe texcat is a good one (though I need to reread and see if my wagon was indeed a counter wagon of texcat's).

Farside is an awesome wagon. You should really trust me with this one.
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Post Post #681 (isolation #74) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:44 am

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Don't listen to Hark. He doesn't know what he's talking about. He doesn't have a case on me. He haven't even tried to address my responses to the accusations made on me.

JUST. LYNCH. FARSIDE.

I have a real case on her.
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Post Post #682 (isolation #75) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:50 am

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@persephone: you're voting an uncc'ed jailkeeper. Switch to farside and help us win this game.
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Post Post #685 (isolation #76) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:52 am

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@Yuria and @eagersnake:

Kop is not today's lynch. I think he's town. Switch to farside.
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Post Post #686 (isolation #77) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:54 am

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In post 683, Harkonnen97 wrote:u know she is scum because ur fucking scum
In post 684, Harkonnen97 wrote:just bcz i claimed jailkeeper that doesnt mean im rly jailkeeper u DUMB-DUMB
Shut up and let the adults solve the game.
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Post Post #695 (isolation #78) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:21 am

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In post 688, farside22 wrote:Some player that claimed to read the game is making busy work here.
Nah, you have to try better than this.

You have only played one game with me. In that game I was town and you scum. My ISO in that game not being identical to this one is a result of many things, including me not having enough time for this game earlier. You really have to elaborate why those subtles meta differences make me scum.

As I see it you're just trying to overjustify a supposed scum read on me, by bringing that ISO and making me look bad, without actual evidence.

Try again scum.
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Post Post #697 (isolation #79) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:24 am

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In post 690, farside22 wrote:He went from calling gamma scum to town all in one swoop.
Yeah if you don't see that as scum buddies helping get each other I can't help you
I read FancyPants' , I also skimmed Gamma's ISO in the game he linked. All this made me reconsider my read on him.

Did you read those?
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Post Post #699 (isolation #80) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:26 am

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In post 691, FancyPants wrote:This is me calling Persephone scum now so I can brag about it at the end of the game.

In other news I'm really not sold on Farside.
You didn't answer my question:

Am I scummier than Farside in your eyes?

Also you never responded to my response to your case on me.
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Post Post #705 (isolation #81) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:41 am

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To summarize my case on farside:

1) Sgz's posts are the kind of posts I've seen from newb scum. His jump on alban's wagon in his first post is especially bad, like a newb scum opportunistically jumping on a forming wagon. This is mainly gut, so I admit not being a strong point of my case.

2) Meta reasons involving farside's post style matching that of a game in which I played with her and she was scum.

3) Her opportunistic jump on my wagon, while throwing shade on Gamma at the same time.

4) Add to the above Mini's , , and .


Farside is scum my friends.
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Post Post #716 (isolation #82) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:06 am

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In post 712, MiniDeathStar wrote:I am really, really confused how NJAC and Gamma went from being sure the other is scum to completely sheeping each other in completely random directions.
What exactly are you confused about? If you have some questions don't hesitate to ask.
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Post Post #734 (isolation #83) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:25 am

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In post 723, MiniDeathStar wrote:Why did you go from Gamma being 100% scum to being town to agreeing with him and following him?
:down:
In post 697, NJAC wrote:I read FancyPants' , I also skimmed Gamma's ISO in the game he linked. All this made me reconsider my read on him.
Also my read on farside is not me "following him", it's a read of my own.

As an additional note I didn't say he was
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Why did he do the same with you?
You have to ask him, but I suppose I refuted his case on me.
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Post Post #737 (isolation #84) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:29 am

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In post 724, MiniDeathStar wrote:Elephant. Room. Etc etc.
Translation please.
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Post Post #747 (isolation #85) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:36 am

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We're not lynching Persephone without a claim.
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Post Post #766 (isolation #86) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:14 am

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In post 751, farside22 wrote:There is no way anyone can read that back and forth from NJAC and Gamma and see anything that explains why they are sheeping each other now.
You're lying scum. Where am I sheeping him?

Also, and were addressed to you, please comment/answer. And please comment my case on you in .
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Post Post #771 (isolation #87) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:03 am

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Stop ignoring me scumfarside.
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Post Post #779 (isolation #88) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:34 am

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In post 773, farside22 wrote:
In post 766, NJAC wrote:
In post 751, farside22 wrote:There is no way anyone can read that back and forth from NJAC and Gamma and see anything that explains why they are sheeping each other now.
You're lying scum. Where am I sheeping him?

Also, and were addressed to you, please comment/answer. And please comment my case on you in .
I refuse to replay a 3rd time to something I already responded.

You can keep acting like I never posted a reason but that is just a lie.
You haven't responded this:

Where am I sheeping Gamma?

You haven't responded those posts. You haven't commented on my case on you.

Try again.
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Post Post #782 (isolation #89) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:46 am

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In post 780, farside22 wrote:Njac: what is your read on perse and why? What's the difference between perse and the player i replaced?
Null. I'm considering the implication of how quick the wagon on that slot developed.

However I want the pressure on that slot not to diminish, until we get a claim.

The player you replaced made an entrance with an opportunistic vote that I didn't like. Then he sticked on alban (a town read of me), without much explanation, and didn't comment on anything else. And finally he gave some vague reads which I don't agree given the time he gave them, and I don't find them quite genuine.

Perse is a newbie. I'm not sure that slot can be labeled as scum for the content in her posts, but maybe only for the replacement.

Now, can you answer and comment what I've asked?
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Post Post #784 (isolation #90) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:52 am

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In post 781, farside22 wrote:Where did you tunnel on one read in that game? which I said in this game. Your lurking here. Which looking at your posting on site: http://forum.mafiascum.net/search.php?s ... &start=100
Yes you took time off I don't dispute that.
I'm saying you made more reads in our last game and was more foot in mouth, which none of that is here.

I also asked you to share what you see as similar? Which you avoided responding to at all.
Ok. I was more engaged in that game than what I have been here, because I didn't have the time to properly engage in this one. That's also the case with other current games, because they started earlier. I'm obviously not going to approach every game the same way, so the fact that my posting here differs from there means nothing.

And I'm not bothering to make a detailed comparison of my posts here and there. My point is that you brought that argument to incriminate me when my wagon was gaining momentum.
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Post Post #786 (isolation #91) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:54 am

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In post 783, farside22 wrote:Why did you reconsider your view?
That's what townies do in the light of new info/points of view.
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Post Post #788 (isolation #92) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:58 am

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In post 783, farside22 wrote:You keep being vague
Fine, if you think I'm being vague, then ask me exactly what you want me to explain/elaborate on.

Don't you just call me scum because of that, interact with me if you're really interested in finding out my alignment.
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Post Post #789 (isolation #93) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:59 am

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In post 787, farside22 wrote:And njac continues to dodge my question to him.
Fun.
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Ok, I may have missed something. Please point to me what's the question you want me to answer.
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Post Post #793 (isolation #94) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:03 pm

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This one?
In post 781, farside22 wrote:Where did you tunnel on one read in that game?
I wasn't so sure about my reads in that game. I saw something scummy in this one and I thought it was worth pursuing.

P-Edit: I see, I would really need to look at that game in more detail to answer that. I just remember your post style being similar. I'm not sure what you're trying to prove, though.
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Post Post #794 (isolation #95) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:04 pm

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In post 791, farside22 wrote:Who else are you scum reading NJAC and why?
Still working on that.
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Post Post #859 (isolation #96) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:12 am

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farside is still scum.

If I have to pick between Flubber and texcat, I'm voting texcat:

VOTE: texcat
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Post Post #860 (isolation #97) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:13 am

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That's L-2 I think.
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Post Post #963 (isolation #98) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 2:45 am

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I'm back people. Reading in a while.
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Post Post #964 (isolation #99) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 3:47 am

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In post 958, farside22 wrote:Ask njac who he scum reads and why he voted textcat.
He's pretty great at dodging questions
I scum read you. I voted texcat because I preferred that slot being lynched over Flubber/Perse's.

What questions did I dodge?
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Post Post #965 (isolation #100) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 3:48 am

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In post 961, Fire Assassin wrote:I am considering a gamma wagon, but Persephone was vigged so I think that's pointless?
Explain this, please. Why is a Gamma wagon pointless given that Perse/Flubber was vigged?
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Post Post #966 (isolation #101) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 3:49 am

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Can we lynch scum!farside now please?

VOTE: farside
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Post Post #967 (isolation #102) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 3:49 am

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In other news: Hark could be scum.

@Hark: why did you fakeclaim JK?
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Post Post #969 (isolation #103) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 5:52 am

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In post 968, farside22 wrote:Questions not responding to.

Who else is scum?

How is this game like our last game together?

New questio: why did you prefer texcat?
1) Still working on it. Hopefully it will be clearer after your flip. Pre-flip associations are not extremely useful so I prefer to lynch you and work with that.

2) I don't fully understand your question about our past game. I'm not bothering checking that game again unless you or someone else have something specific and want me to comment on it. As I said before what I remember about that game is you being scum and posting in a similar style to this one. If you want a short answer, I'm gonna say this game is obviously different from that game (because two games are never going to be similar), but your post style is similar to that game. Finally, if you claim your post style is similar in every game, so it's not AI for you, then I'm sticking to the other points of my case against you, to call you scum.

3) I preferred texcat because I saw nothing scummy about Perse's slot, besides the replacement, which could also be something NAI. Also, I took in consideration the possibility that my wagon was a counter wagon to texcat's, which could mean that it was a scum slot.
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Post Post #970 (isolation #104) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 5:53 am

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In post 966, NJAC wrote:Can we lynch scum!farside now please?

VOTE: farside
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Post Post #987 (isolation #105) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:49 am

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In post 975, farside22 wrote:And I'm happy with my vote.
You mean, happy like when scum are happy because the mislynch they're pushing is gaining traction?
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Post Post #988 (isolation #106) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:51 am

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In post 979, Yuria wrote:
vote: Njac
please explain you case on farside again.
:down:
In post 705, NJAC wrote:To summarize my case on farside:

1) Sgz's posts are the kind of posts I've seen from newb scum. His jump on alban's wagon in his first post is especially bad, like a newb scum opportunistically jumping on a forming wagon. This is mainly gut, so I admit not being a strong point of my case.

2) Meta reasons involving farside's post style matching that of a game in which I played with her and she was scum.

3) Her opportunistic jump on my wagon, while throwing shade on Gamma at the same time.

4) Add to the above Mini's , , and .

Farside is scum my friends.
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Post Post #989 (isolation #107) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:54 am

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@Yuria:

What's your case on me?
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Post Post #991 (isolation #108) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:58 am

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In post 985, Kop wrote:I am still confident in Hark being town.
Why are you so confident about it?
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Post Post #997 (isolation #109) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:02 am

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In post 993, farside22 wrote:The amount of times of saying your in catch up with no other scum reads.
Opportunitistic jump on textcat and vague reasons for your scum read.
Oh wait apparently thinking I'm scum for voting you while still scum reading someone and you do the same thing.
1) What's wrong with not having other scum reads? What are your other scum reads? Also I said my wagon could be a counter wagon of texcat's, so I had a slight scum read on that slot. I'm currently saying that Harko could be scum, so that's another scum read.

2) I already explained my vote on texcat. I don't consider the reasons for my vote vague, I've been very concise about them.

3) Please elaborate in this one, because I'm not following what you're saying. What same thing did I do?
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Post Post #1020 (isolation #110) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:19 am

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In post 1012, FancyPants wrote:NJAC how to you reconcile calling Textcat lynch bait to prefering her vote to Persephone?
Already explained. Also farside quoted my posts regarding that issue, just above your post, so please re read them because I'm tired of repeating the same.
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Post Post #1021 (isolation #111) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:23 am

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In post 1013, Yuria wrote:Explain as in idgi. What is an "opportunistic jump" and why is it scummy.
And the meta thing is questionable at best when i checked. Are you going to explain it further?
I'm not going to explain it further, I've already elaborated enough. Please read my posts. If you want more from me then at least answer my question:
In post 989, NJAC wrote:@Yuria:

What's your case on me?
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Post Post #1050 (isolation #112) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:59 am

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Ok. Infinity could also be scum. He's jumping on the biggest wagon without a genuine development of his read on me.
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Post Post #1051 (isolation #113) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:03 am

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I'm accepting my destiny of being today's mislynch if that's what we need to solve this game. So I'm not going to defend myself anymore.

My request is that after I flip VT you lynch farside tomorrow. Also take a closer look to those on my wagon. Don't give Hark's slot much town credit, same with Yuria.
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Post Post #1091 (isolation #114) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 3:58 am

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In post 1070, Infinity 324 wrote:What do people think
If you're town then it was a TvT scramble, which took place while other mislynches (texcat, perse) were being pushed.
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Post Post #1093 (isolation #115) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 4:16 am

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I'm doing a VCA. At first sight farside is obvscum. More later...
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Post Post #1094 (isolation #116) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 4:17 am

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In post 1092, Fire Assassin wrote:Prod dodge vote eager
You should vote farside with me.
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Post Post #1098 (isolation #117) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:28 pm

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Ok.
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Post Post #1099 (isolation #118) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:29 pm

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@Mod: V/LA through the weekend.
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Post Post #1109 (isolation #119) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:17 pm

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And there goes away my town read on Firebringer :(

LYNCH. FARSIDE. TOMORROW.
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Post Post #1506 (isolation #120) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:57 pm

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In post 1490, Firebringer wrote:Don't think anyone honestly deserved a win, maybe MDS. Almost everyone played really poorly here.
You played poorly. I caught one scum from the beginning :cool:.
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Post Post #1507 (isolation #121) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 4:02 pm

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In post 1467, farside22 wrote:1) njac you have no clue what my scum game is. There was no thing to similar to my last game and yes I was very aware of how I played.
Ok.

I had your slot as scum not only because of meta. I obviously don't know enough of your scum play, we only played once before this game.

My read was based on a combination of your predecessor's posts and how you were not interested at all in determining my alignment, but only in antagonizing me.
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