Mini 1856 - This Mafia Game is for pieguyn (Game Over)

[drealmerz7]

drive-by check-in
...

I don't do RVS most of the time, but, hey, for pieguyn, right?

VOTE: pieguyn

[drealmerz7]

What do you do instead?

oh it varies

probably best to just be exposed to it all over time (:

sometimes I do what 1SVT is doing and scold everyone for wanting to murder without cause so quickly

[drealmerz7]

woahz

catching up

[drealmerz7]

woah owah owah woawhhahahhh

what happened?!?!

okay, from the top!

I vote pieguyn, someone I don't even know, because it's RVS and game is named for him so I figure, hey, a tribute RVS vote!

In #17 I replied to #13 without having read 14-16, and then was gone until now when I came back and read 14 onward...

and

15, 16, 18, woah woah woah, scummy and scummier!!

and then right after the most scummy pieguyn vote comes:

Also as a side note on one hand I am incredibly happy with my role pm this game on the other hand I am 99% sure no one will actually believe me when I have to claim.....
So yeah just mentioning this now.

causing me to VOTE THEM RIGHT NOW OMG

VOTE: beeboy

and I continue on...

beeboy suggests townbloc ppls - scummy

AERO makes a pieguyn vote - omg wtf?

but then...a CLAIM?! woahwoahwoah...too early for a claim pieguyn! WTF?!

?!?!!!

I'm reading beeboy and smith as possible buddies as of the top of page 4...

But, I know you the least out of this playerlist. These peeps are all oldblood

I am not oldblood at all. I'm so newblood. LIES. Explain?

Then we have the ppl doing nothing like aero and gamma...
I hope by the time i get back from work they have posted... something.

What about me?!~

My problem right now is like almost everyone who's posted has posted something townie, but they can't all be town
And I highly doubt all of the scum are just in the people doing nothing

so
P-edit: actually
VOTE: pisskop

If you're just voting for "not an active poster" why not aero or gamma, people who actively have votes?

ME! WHAT ABOUT ME?!

Waiting for GiF to actually post a VC.
All you guys are dicks for voting for Pie in Pie's game, though.

What about me?! (HAH! you see what I did there?) I did it first as a special tribute!

comfy voting beeboy and mhsmith atm, they both are my only scum-reads atm

next closest is pisskop

only townlean so far is pieguyn, mayyyybe cakez

[drealmerz7]

no spazzy, you want to see spazzzzy>? !! errr....maybe tis all the meds?! (jk no meds here)

really though, just waohhh to all that happened with pieguyn so fast and all

sometimes I post in walls like that though when I need to catchup

[drealmerz7]

SHE

mygoodness

I'm reading PIE GUY N and not looking at your PRONOUN

[drealmerz7]

/joke ask for replacement due to shame in regards to the namesake of the game - omg I am not worthy!!!

[drealmerz7]

causing me to VOTE THEM RIGHT NOW OMG

What dont you like about beeboy's soft?

everything, on so many levels - it reeks to high heaven, as they say, makes the belly churrrrrrn

to find the words...ummmm....

First of all inherently softclaiming at this point is a bad move. But I don't read it as town at all. Yes, he could be happy that he is VT, and for some reason saying no one is going to believe, but, regardless of any of that, I read it that he means to disclose that he has a role of somesort (but why would you do that as town?) - and THEN goes on to set the precedent of no one believing it when he HAS to claim. The wording itself reeks " when I have to claim" instead of "if I have to claim" - to me little things like that are often (not always, but very often) scum-dications.

I don't know if I'm being clear. It's so blazingly scummy to me. I'll try to put it better if that doesn't suffice.

beeboy suggests townbloc ppls - scummy

Why's that scummy?

Because it is too fucking early to be that confident in townreads. It's like a buddying tactic. It's LAMIST. (in this specific instance is all I'm talking)

comfy voting beeboy and mhsmith atm, they both are my only scum-reads atm

next closest is pisskop

Why smith? why pisskop?

lots of scumpings of smith, like he's trying to find which agenda to push - plus buddying to beeboy on a few occasions at least

pisskop was tone on repeated posts, including his first like 3 and then it continued - plus he called me oldblood which I don't understand, so he's just generally on my radar

[drealmerz7]

ooooyes, lookatme stir the pot!!

[drealmerz7]

does dreal always play like this or

no one knows

[drealmerz7]

oh wait, I do...

I play allllll sortsa ways

[drealmerz7]

good luck forming your reads, everyone!

[drealmerz7]

good luck forming your reads, everyone!

we literally can't because you're making noise

It really wasn't that much noise though...

what is noise, exactly? I think it's content in there

[drealmerz7]

If you all are curious I've completed probably 15 games over the course of a year+ or so ? handful of bastard games in there, a roulette, a lovers, an all mafia, and have hosted a large theme as well...

we play deep games, elaborate and unusual setups, with a lot of veteran/smart players who have been playing for ages

also played a bit in meat-world (regular werewolf with a seer only and then 1NightWerewolf a bunch too)

That's not the way a newbie player's mindset works ^^;;

woah don't disservice good players just because they're new

I have seen a new player roll scum and DESTROY town because they observered 2 games and knew what the fuck they were doing through and through - it's possibly a site culture thing though, less likely to happen here that often

[drealmerz7]

Well literally anything is fakable if you think of it that way.

absolutely!!! never doubt it

[drealmerz7]

I have seen a new player roll scum and DESTROY town because they observered 2 games and knew what the fuck they were doing through and through

1 out of how many?
A good player that happened to manage to do that deserves the win, since they managed to fool everyone else.
I go by what's the norm behaviour i see from town and scum and try to incorporate a player's supposed experience into the mix + experiencial meta that i have with them if any.
In this way i can make better calls to find town and then just remove who's leftover.

I see very good noob players on my HS often, put a couple games in them and they are fighting with the 'big boys' head on no problem. It's not like we get new players that often, but in the past 6 months we've actually had several new players and all of them have done well. A couple of them have come in crazyyy exceptional players. One should be making his way around here sooner or later...I'm excited...

[drealmerz7]

I find that if I try to gauge a player by their newness I'm likely underestimating and doing myself a disservice. Sure, keep the things in mind, but, don't let it guide you or you'll end up duped more often than is good.

[drealmerz7]

good luck forming your reads, everyone!

we literally can't because you're making noise

It really wasn't that much noise though...

what is noise, exactly? I think it's content in there

Noise is posting that: doesn't generate content, is annoying to read, useless posting, etc.
So I'd say whenever you just add random ellipses and go !!!! a bunch of times it is noise cause I don't feel like reading it, it didn't really say anything, and is overall annoying to read.

ehhh, I know what noise is, I meant, what is noise in what I said, I thought I was mostly generating content, little noise...sometimes noise becomes content too...I definitely don't ever intend to be a distraction or obstacle. If anything I want to add bits of fun and I like to "get into it", but if you feel I'm being overly distracting with something, please say so. I kind of feel like you're fabricating something out of not much.

[drealmerz7]

Notably, Drealz didn't even answer me yet despite replying in thread twice, and you'd think someone so giddy would care to say something when directly addressed.
VOTE: Drealz

Stop talking about things that aren't thing game.

I actually only saw it when I went back over (missed a few posts actually) and read, and was like "mehh" to answering it

I mean...really? Looks like you're just fishing to make shit up too.

[drealmerz7]

Just because you don't find something relevant doesn't mean someone else won't.

There can be discussion and offtopic things that happen as long as it's not a huge distraction or derailment.

Wisdom - how do you know if your vote "still looks good" if you haven't seen what has progressed? It looks good like a coat of paint that hasn't weathered yet, or what?? weakassshit thatis

[drealmerz7]

beeboy TRs wisdom - that makes me feel good! *sarcasm*

[drealmerz7]

Dreal looks like spazzy, low hanging fruit town to me

I do like to dangle myself to see who wants a grab at me...get me some feeeeels

[drealmerz7]

But scum would pretend to read the thread.
Or they wouldn't come in and say they aren't reading the thread.

uhhh sure they would

WIFOM much?

[drealmerz7]

seriously sometimes nothing screams scummier to me than a fucking player WIFOMING FOR SCUM

[drealmerz7]

do me a favor and take your list of "scum wouldn't do" and THROW IT AWAY

[drealmerz7]

do me a favor and take your list of "scum wouldn't do" and THROW IT AWAY

I don't have one of those tho :<

well any time you are about to think it or type it, stop yourself and go "ooorr would they, just because one would be inclined to think they wouldn't?! hmmmmM!"

capital M is very important there

best to just go case by case basis

in this case in this game for this player in this instance, do you think they are scum having done _____

don't apply a general "well, scum wouldn't do that because..." YES, yes they would, because exactly the thought you're having...so, then go forward and evaluate the specific circumstance

I mean...that's my suggestion on how to not get mutilized by scum unnecessarily

[drealmerz7]

I just don't see the scum incentive what Wisdom is doing.
It probably is too early to read him right now but /shrug

scum's incentive is to sew doubt, confusion, fear, mistrust, contention, frustration so that town demoralizes and self-destructs in a shitstorm of awfulness

is he doing that? he seems to be trying!

[drealmerz7]

That is the opposite of what you want to do as scum.

again and again

you're going to get mutilized

watch out!

or you're scum

[drealmerz7]

Now, please, I eagerly await your half-cocked rebuttal.

*halfyawn*

[drealmerz7]

beeboy you are driving me nuts

[drealmerz7]

varsoon can easily have my vote for the record

geebus

[drealmerz7]

Other people are giving him towncred for it tho

who o.O

YOU

[drealmerz7]

oh geez, fucking "show me the evidence" - yeahhhh, cause smart scum just leave evidence lying around on purpose...noooooo, it's subtle and subversive and tangental associations and how it "feels" like you're trying to maneuver viewpoints rather than see them - that is what is scummy about you smith

VOTE: mhsmith

[drealmerz7]

If I missed answering any questions, please repeat.

[drealmerz7]

...But nevertheless, there's nothing fundamentally suspicious about it from Wisdom...

pushing and pushing your viewpoint "it's null it's null!!!" we get what you think, not everyone thinks that

this quoted phrase is erroneous because:

it's not an "okay" answer, it's essentially "why is your vote still valid if you're not current on the happenings?" with a response of "I selectively chose what to look at, out of context, and am making a judgement based on that and not using this many words to say so because if I do that it's obvious how scummy I am, so I'll use minimal words and make you guess at wtf"

[drealmerz7]

just saying

I think smith asked me some shit I don't have the energy/interest in answering, it happens sometimes, so, sometimes I just need a little coaxing, sometimes I still just won't answer cause, mehhh

[drealmerz7]

oh see that is the sort of sometimes silly question I sometimes just won't answer

doesn't hurt to ask for a reason, but, chances are if not given upon/prior to voting or after having been probed about it that an answer isn't happening, at least not yet

[drealmerz7]

not that I'm excusing pie

[drealmerz7]

can it be both?

[drealmerz7]

I am not getting the warm and fuzzy feeling I felt when I read his earlier posts.

and by that you mean:

VOTE: guyinfreezer
One true bastard test

cause that was the only post he'd made prior to you saying you wanted him in your townbloc

beeboy is scum ppls, please vote him already

[drealmerz7]

VC please, GIF!

[drealmerz7]

:

O

you can be town aidhan

torment reference?! !!!

[drealmerz7]

can't get to the meat without cutting through the fat

[drealmerz7]

VOTE: varsoon

I just ISOd you and you're bitching at my contributions and...those are yours??...

[drealmerz7]

I'll dig 'em up, give me a sec.

First, though:

VOTE: varsoon

I just ISOd you and you're bitching at my contributions and...those are yours??...

This is a garbage OMGUS attempt at revitalizing a wagon that started to lose pressure.
If this is your attempt at contributing to the game, it's all bluster and no actual work involved.
You ISO'd me? What'd you take umbrage with? OH, nothing? You just wanted a poor excuse to make it look like you're making an informed vote?

Eat rope.

those are questions you asked me I didn't respond to???

It's not any attempt at anything, it's finally deciding, yeahhhh, you're scum, I'm comfortable voting you. Your fear of what my vote might do to your wagon is telling, imo. It's not an 'attempt" to contribute, it's: there's a lot of foooey flying around in this game and so I'm trying to not get it on myself. It's like everyone is trying to paint everyone as scum, that is not my goal. The way you started and the way you've been continuously make me feel like you're one of the problems. It's like when a food fight breaks out. The guy making the most mess isn't necessarily the guy who started it. I think I found the guy who started it. That's my informed vote. I don't vote arbitrarily, ever. Even as scum. and I don't hardly ever RVS. My votes are to be taken seriously, (which I think you do and are responding as you are.)

[drealmerz7]

"scum thought his wagon would stall and in comes this drealmerz nuissance seeming guy to keep it alive? fuuuck"

[drealmerz7]

and my other top SRs are going for what I'm reading as low-hanging fruit in LF

sooo

I'm just here watching and taking notes...

and still contributing more than the guy giving me shit for my lack of contributing and even calls my contributions "attempts" - what scum

[drealmerz7]

You wrote a whole paragraph and it does nothing but the exact scumpainting that you're complaining about.

and you do nothing but shittalk instead of talk

[drealmerz7]

you just think I should be an easy lynch and are going for me, frmo the getgo pretty much, and you don't want to let go

and now that I've voted you...ohboyyyy

[drealmerz7]

if anything what I've done is talk about aspects of the game of mafia that are tangental to what is actually happening in this game that he doesn't want us thinking about because it exposes motivations

yeah luna is flailing town

beeboy + are scum trying to get that lynched, I think

[drealmerz7]

ugh, I make bunches of quotes and comment on each part and tell what I think and ppl complain

I summarize and ppl complain

mehhhhh
yes I am SRing, still, hard

maybe flailing is alittle extreme, but frustrated with the attention-towny

[drealmerz7]

don't know why you think I thin you're town-null

you are scum

[drealmerz7]

that is "beeboy plus other scum aside from beeboy"

[drealmerz7]

quit demanding

it won't get you what you want

you aren't even having any patience, I just went and took a piss and came back and you've posted more

ridiculous

[drealmerz7]

hey look, another top SR voting me, amazing

[drealmerz7]

nah, I can't even be sure they're scum, but I do recognize that ppl I tend to scumread also tend to vote me (not related to OMGUS at all) - it tends to be a playstyle rubbing thing

usually after some time I can pick out which are just playstyle differences and which are playstyle differences + scum too

this applies to pisskop, dwlee, varsoon, beeboy, and you even (and lots of ppl) - I'm not saying they all have to be scum because they're voting me, obviously, but I'm sure there's 1 or 2 scum in that pile - getting more of a feel for you, I'd probably even take you out of that list, but I'm not naive enough to just do that, maybe if we've played 10 games together...

[drealmerz7]

your posts made it look like them voting you made you more certain of them being scum

which is really dumb

it is really dumb

I guess that is why I make posts like that, because I assume the fact that most ppl playing know that is not what anyone does because doing that is dumb, so I must be doing something else and you should look deeper

I guess it's maybe commentary that could be kept to myself, but, I also think it is important to share because, well, they're my reads and reads like that I tend to be good with, they'll develop as the game goes but I need to establish that that is how it is when I feel the need to

[drealmerz7]

luna is town bc i read her posts and i can tell she's town.

to me luna is bleeding town out of each post

[drealmerz7]

dissertational reads come on D2, MAYBE

D1 is for note-taking and generating content to garner reads

I did

did you?

who else did?

put your votes down

[drealmerz7]

Town, I'd imagine, wouldn't be so dodgy when initially prompted about their alignment--...

omfg

anyone who asks someone else if they're scum I seriously think 9/10 IS SCUM - I laughed it off and gave you that 1/10 benefit of the doubt and dropped it, because, obviously it's a rhetorical question (ohno the game has too much rhetoric!!!) that I'd rather generate a read from seeing how you are about me about not answering it - and then things progressed, and progressed, and you still persist on me for stupid shit...

you're just painting me scum because you're convinced I am and convincing yourself more

I voted you when I felt comfortable in the midst of all that that "yep, you're scum" - you did not react well, and you continue

[drealmerz7]

you're just painting me scum because you're convinced I am and convincing yourself more

that is how your scum-self is portraying yourself to be town, to be clear

[drealmerz7]

I did laugh it off

you just aren't in the room with me

you brought it up again

[drealmerz7]

he already started to back it off but still you can't let go super fast:

Town, I'd imagine, wouldn't be so dodgy

yeah ill just stop you there
dont assume townies actually play like town should play, or you'll misread people all the time

this whole thing sounds like you just dislike dreal's playstyle

That's probably the case, too.

I have this happen a lot with me with scum and can identify it preeetttty accurately

[drealmerz7]

totally, GE

I was inclined to go there a couple times, considered it, and no, this is not a TvT am pretty sure, again, experience with this sort of rub

[drealmerz7]

cakez isn't scum because if varsoon and I are TvT (and varsoon and cakez arent S+S, I am pretty sure) we'll both die and then cakez will be next and he's smart enough to know that (pretty sure)

[drealmerz7]

all roads point to varsoon scum

[drealmerz7]

:|

Never bet that scum wouldnt double down on trickle down. It works. Like srsly.

nah it's more clearcut than that

[drealmerz7]

not if their tunnelee doesn't let them back down to get away from

it's not always that at all, either, because scum know that once they start putting on that act that a true act of it persists and doesn't let go

wifom galore, don't wifom for scum pls

[drealmerz7]

two wagons ppl

this is good shit

pick who you think is scummiest

[drealmerz7]

that says 2

[drealmerz7]

obviously fucking with you/us and it's a huge tossup...nice GIF!

[drealmerz7]

and parity cops

[drealmerz7]

my read is that beeboy is scum doing it to luna on purpose (and out I go...)

[drealmerz7]

Also I think dreal is a super lynchbaity player and that scum are taking advantage of that

it's often how I play to try and draw scum to me to sort them, but not always, just when I'm in the mood

issue is when I have to convince ppl on it, works better when ppl know me, but, still, tis how I play sometimes so it's how I'm playing

hint: vote varsoon

[drealmerz7]

that was for other ppl, I knwo you are

hey am I at L-1? *goes and checks*

[drealmerz7]

my read is that beeboy is scum doing it to luna on purpose (and out I go...)

i dont like you fanning the flames

What is this read based on?

not fanning flames, giving my read

read based on their interactions

I feel like I've been luna before

[drealmerz7]

why should we vote varsoon again?

because he's scum duh

c'mon, you should know to ask better questions

[drealmerz7]

@ GIF VC BE NICE

like once every 10 pages at least

[drealmerz7]

and when I was luna there was a scumfuck doing exactly what beeboy is doing, just antagonizing it, luna can't let it go because she can't let it go cause she's like a repeatedly seered bull, every time she gets still the slightest movement at her makes her jump, beeboy keeps seering her and going at her making her jump

[drealmerz7]

bad vibes from the nahdia post

[drealmerz7]

I laughed when it sound townreads haha

but, yeah, those...meh...mostly gut/tone stuff that will flesh out more in future Days

hard to read practical strangers on D1 for me

[drealmerz7]

bad vibes from the nahdia post

also explaining the bad vibes would be helpful.

that's what you'd think but I tend to just both ppl when I try to explain shit

I read it, it sounded like faked cutesy buddying to everyone pretty much

[drealmerz7]

I don't see the unvote

I think I'm at L-1

[drealmerz7]

I hate when ppl don't specify their unvote

but, yeh, whatever, I won't claim unless at L-1 by principle and a fake vote to get a claim is poor play sooo

I'm at L-2 then

[drealmerz7]

i've recently come to the realization that my catchup-style of posting in games is probably annoying as fuck and hard to sift through. I'm only really at my computer during the night though to read shit, so I don't really know what else to do.

I love it and is how I play a lot of times depending

[drealmerz7]

yeah that was all me

I gave my read on the whole thing AFTER IT WAS OVER (so I hoped)

you are one of the scummiest scum evaer

[drealmerz7]

... it would be mostly because I'd feel like an idiot if I failed to listen to my kindred spirit for the third fucking game in a row.

explain?

[drealmerz7]

if cakez is scum he doesn't help me that is for sure

something else I said (p)ages ago made cakez scum

oh yeah, me vs varsoon

shit, we're still in this Day?

[drealmerz7]

EBWOP

if cakez is scum he doesn't help me that is for sure

something else I said (p)ages ago made cakez town

oh yeah, me vs varsoon

shit, we're still in this Day?

cakez only scum if varsoon and I are both town

[drealmerz7]

exposure is extremely minimal

[drealmerz7]

when I try to explain gut/tone reads it doesn't go over well, I'm refraining, at least on D1 until things start to get a bit more firm - ya know, reading pretty much strangers D1 doesn't generate much in the way of reads unless something blatantly sticks out/strikes me as notable (as something that is possible that is worth exploring at that juncture and wouldn't just be a distraction or annoying drealmer-ramblings which tend to happen) for whatever reason, which you can bet I'd say if I saw

you're not going to get more from me unless I have more to give, no matter how much you try to milk it

[drealmerz7]

I mainly agree with this, though. Dreal is a very Aristophanian player in that people look at his posting style and scumread him for it.

often but not always, I think it depends on how I feel in the environment of players, the passion for the game, and of course things like my role (as VT I might do things that I wouldn't do as sayyyy...something else...because I can stick my neck out a bit more than usual, which, for me is a hard thing to gauge, depending, because I'll stick my neck out a lot of times no matter what because metaWIFOMmetaWIFOM), or just my current mood about a game (I think a lot of ppl do that)

[drealmerz7]

That's fine you can stay at l-1 then.

I thought I was at L-2? shiiit GIF!?

[drealmerz7]

gut and tone reads are fine
arguing beeboy is scum because youve seen scum doing the same as him when town doing it is equally possible isnt

I'm not really arguing it - take it or leave it, do you see me making post after post of "omg he's scum cause this?" no, that's him...

it's my view, I've shared it, that's all

but that's not even a fully accurate portrayal of my view, so let me elaborate it to be clear:

it's not a general thing, it's not "this and this happens and it makes it scum" NO, never, for me, unless we start to go into what I call PL territory, where only scum lie, hammer without allowing for a claim, and a bunch of other things

I'm talking in this specific game, this circumstance, my read is that he's scum - sometimes I'll read a GENERAL thing like that happening as town, sometimes as scum, I think I'm going at telling the difference, I'm not 100% accurate, but I'm good at it

similarly to what I got with varsoon - again, is it town tunnel or scum going after ML bait? smart scum let go of the ML bait if it doesn't move right, that happens a lot, I think I've gotten to a point where I can, again not 100% accurately, but often enough, to be able to say with confidence (that's why you see me fucknig posting about it and not...other shit that I'm not so confident in) that hey, scum!

beeboy, varsoon...I don't know who else, pisskop is there, dwlee is there,- interesting I have a lot more townleans this game than I do most games on D1, but, even so, they're tempered with great amounts of uncertainty

[drealmerz7]

Like, when i have three scumreads and they dont make sense together, i think i went wrong somewhere in the rest of my reads

obviously, but you don't abandon a possibility because you know all options are possible

you just keep them all in view and watch and wait and see what happens with them, meanwhile making sure you have a threshold of "okay I can be comfortable lynching this" which dictates the immedate vote choice, which is the first thing that matters and then sort from there

ppl I think try to sort too much too soon

I kind of go like "well these things NEED sorted, let's see how they best sort", instead of try to force a sort

force a sort! wooo

[drealmerz7]

are *not* possible grrr

[drealmerz7]

if you have 3 scumreads you're comfortable voting but know all 3 can't be scum, that is fine

go with your top choice, make your case, continue to evolve all reads and make required adjustements, and when it comes lunch time, know who you're okay feasting on

flip

reassess resort accordingly

[drealmerz7]

smart scum let go of the ML bait if it doesn't move right, that happens a lot, I think

then youre saying varsoon is dumb scum or?

no I'm saying I've learned to identify that they back off and have developed a way to not let them back off

town would have backed off, scum can't

tis how I played it

if he's town he's dumbtown, and I don't buy that

[drealmerz7]

Because Drealz has been eh

it's been that kind of Day

[drealmerz7]

Varsoon why would he ever answer yes to that

you mean like "drealmer, are you scum?"

[drealmerz7]

town would have backed off, scum can't

I'm not backing off beeboy, you're townreading me because of my engagement with beeboy.
So you're literally seeing a town not backing off something.

you're talking about something else :|

I'm talking about varsoon on me

Pedit - oooh nice

[drealmerz7]

The WHOLE POINT

is that you aren't accounting for me being town who simply didn't want to engage your inane questions

you found something to latch onto to paint me as scum and then some more and pushed me as scum until you realized you couldn't back down (because of the things I say so that you can't wiggle out of it like I've learned scum to do)

keep wiggling though, it's purrrrrty

[drealmerz7]

The WHOLE POINT

is that you aren't accounting for me being town

who simply didn't want to engage your inane questions

Keep slipping. Scum wouldn't be 'accounting for you being town' because they'd know you're town.

keep scumming

that's not what I said

[drealmerz7]

stupid quotes but you get it

[drealmerz7]

I would also prefer a lynch at this point, as there's plenty of content to inform one and there's just been, as I've seen, mostly bickering otherwise.
Some flips would be welcome info.

how LAMIST of you

[drealmerz7]

see, more reasons I think you're scum

this is good stuff, we've got our meat out on the table and smashing it all up against each other

but you're treating it like it's vapid

it means something, man, it means something

[drealmerz7]

you've chosen to view/paint me those ways because it's convenient to do so

you aren't allowing for anything else, and at first wouldn't let go, now can't

[drealmerz7]

yeah that's cool if you're not scum cakez/+ aero are and we've helped sort that I think so...

but I think it's you

[drealmerz7]

varsoon, to me you're the good cop to beeboy's badcop

thing is, everyone knows all cops are scum, right?

hah, joke, but, pointed

[drealmerz7]

see, more reasons I think you're scum.

What reasons?
Could you at least outline them?

I fucking did

you think my content is meaningless and are voting me because I've put no meat on the table

I've put meat on the table

I can see it right here, it's mashed up against your meat

get it?

[drealmerz7]

it's just my view

others can share the view or not

that's the game

I've barely had to do much convincing...

[drealmerz7]

if I felt like I had to do more convincing, I would, buuut, it seems pretty simple and clear to me, that's why I've been how I've been

because I haven't had to do more than that, if I felt like I didn't find scum, I'd be continuing to look harder

but I just keep seeing you and beeboy, and that is enough for me for D1 at this point in D1

[drealmerz7]

if I'm wrong, fuck me, it won't be the first!

but if I'm wrong, then at least still there are good reads around it all

namely, again, cakez and aero

[drealmerz7]

when you see a big baddie jumping at low hanging fruit at the edge of a deep forest, you kill that big baddie first

you don't say "hey look, baddies are in these woods, let's skip him and go deep for some wolves in the darkness and try to kill them!"

[drealmerz7]

You're going to need to elaborate on all these reads, even if you feel like you 'dont need to do more convincing'.

because you value my view so much, I will

by D3 I'm sure

[drealmerz7]

haha wow so demanding

are you like this in bed?

[drealmerz7]

What's interesting is that it's been three hours and you've posted elsewhere on-site multiple times, and, yet, have not produced and explained list of reads here, yet.
It's almost as if you're avoiding doing so.

can you please quote where?

[drealmerz7]

I'm not sure what varsoon is talking about, but, I don't do demands, so I left the thread last night to try and teach him some patience

in my experience that is usually scum just trying to garner more votes on me because my reads tend to bother ppl

little less than 10 days til deadline...yeah I'll probably have reads in before then...

[drealmerz7]

Spoiler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYTl9G6HoW0

[drealmerz7]

blew that so hard

didn't apply the timestamp

here

https://youtu.be/uYTl9G6HoW0?t=1m37s

[drealmerz7]

that is a claim silly

[drealmerz7]

?

[drealmerz7]

please show me where that's against the rules? very sorry if it is

[drealmerz7]

that's a beautiful claim

I'd rather not have to explain it

it's a bit disconcerting that I might have to...

[drealmerz7]

if you don't get it others will

[drealmerz7]

gotta use the 1m37sec mark

[drealmerz7]

here I am, without much time, I will do some catchup and see what you folks did all day

I do hope I'm not a prime candidate anymore...did you figure out my claim? *goes and reads*

[drealmerz7]

Drealz is kinda weird...

been hearing that my whole life

but really, here is the thing

I've been done with D1 for like *looks at wrist where there is no watch* a year or something? I voted who I wanted to vote, gave the reads I was comfortable giving, and it's just not enough for everyone, or rather, some ppl, some of which are scum just pushing the issue that I'm not cooperating (I am, I voted for who I think is scum, did Yu? - that's general Yu, folks)

we have a couple good wagons and I've give about as much as I have to give, the reasons should be clear

I think varsoon is scum and I've been over it. I think beeboy is scum and I've been over it. Ithink luna is town and I've been over it. Pie is town.
I think if varsoon is town then cakez and/or aero are scum. Everyone else is null to one degree or another.

You should all be ashamed that you don't get my claim (cept those that can't view it!) It's clear and blatant and, wtf?! We breadcrumb softclaims 100x less blatant than that on my HS and they get picked up. Tis what I'm used to.

So...I'll spell it out for you.

1m37seconds. That is all over you. Staring on at me, waiting to see me claim. WHOOOOSH, up goes the tent flaps for THE REVEAL OF THE NURSE. NOW SHE'S ALL EXPOSED IN FRONT OF YOU, DO YOU FUCKING SEE HER??

k bye

[drealmerz7]

it's fucking M*A*S*H*

[drealmerz7]

omfg

[drealmerz7]

do you know how to look something up?

[drealmerz7]

I did use words that last time

NURSE

was in that

that's a backup doc

can we kill varsoon now?

[drealmerz7]

wisdom is varsoon flips town we're killing cakez

[drealmerz7]

but yeah, I'm to make dinner alreayd...eep

put your voets where you like them

[drealmerz7]

no, killing

the angers will be high enough for killkillkill if you flip town

[drealmerz7]

So far we have
Backup IC
Backup Doc
I see where this is going

that's 1 person caught up

YAY!

[drealmerz7]

No we have 2 backup claims. Not 2 backups

omg this guy is so scummy too, but hey

1 killing at a time

[drealmerz7]

Pie is pretty obviously town, Cakez is pretty obviously a shit wagon

fucking bullshit

both you and pie keep calling cakez town out of nowhere when its completely unwarranted

more warranted than your calling ppl scum or town at times
soooo

oh hey, go watch the movie MASH, and then the show, it's one of the best of all tiem

[drealmerz7]

luna bee is town. Cut it out already.

He's not.
And i'm gonna sit on this vote here for the rest of the game if i have to.

how about tomorrow after varsoon?

[drealmerz7]

I get a town vibe from them all

[drealmerz7]

it's D1, I've never played with cakez, ohdear, I'm going to be so devastated if I'm wrong

which, btw, I know I could be and the way I see it, as I've said, if varsoon is town, cakez is scum, so, how about you help kill varsoon and then we go from there?

[drealmerz7]

his push in series 497-588

supporting me in your wagon advance and the read I have on you

scum doesn't do that because I have no traction

does it make sense? I really need to head off

[drealmerz7]

re:

@Drealz: Why can't cakez and I be the same alignment?

[drealmerz7]

you think I'm scum backup doctor or just total fakeclaim? I saw the other backup and thought "hey, great fakeclaim!"

because I didn't think "ohshit shouldn't fakeclaim a backup anything obviously because there could be other backups in the game"

tell me what you think, I'm just guessing here

but, I'm also off for the night, for serious

I hate all the bickering

there is enough meat

ppl vote or not and move on

[drealmerz7]

varsoon are you okay KILLING beeboy?

[drealmerz7]

because as much as I feel my hook in you is good

he's fucking scumfish flapping around like crazy over there and you'd get good towncred with me if we kill him together

[drealmerz7]

mod given fake claim.

I dont think those exist when theres no flavor

he's just SO DESPERATE

[drealmerz7]

so yep, all remains the same for me then

let me know how you all fair

night

[drealmerz7]

because as much as I feel my hook in you is good

he's fucking scumfish flapping around like crazy over there and you'd get good towncred with me if we kill him together

what the fuck does this even mean

hahahahahhahahahha

it means *think harder*

[drealmerz7]

because as much as I feel my hook in you is good

he's fucking scumfish flapping around like crazy over there and you'd get good towncred with me if we kill him together

what the fuck does this even mean

It means that you're scum desperately trying to continue your mislynch after it's vanishing.

^

[drealmerz7]

varsoon's backoff was much more graceful

"for what it's worth"

sosucmmy

[drealmerz7]

magical girls for two? sounds like I missed a hot one

[drealmerz7]

It kinda bothers me that Drealz is trying to get me to wagon-hop onto a townread of mine by promising towncred for it.
Like.
Whut

I like to amuse

[drealmerz7]

yep hook is still in the varsoon

nice

let's kill him ppls geebus

[drealmerz7]

*helps GIF*

[drealmerz7]

OMG TOO MANY POSTS

[drealmerz7]

I said stop postinG!!!

go to bed!

[drealmerz7]

soorry

[drealmerz7]

omg cakez that is so scummy

[drealmerz7]

varsoon tunnels dreal
dreal tunnels varsoon and beeboy
beeboy tunnels dreal and luna
luna tunnels beeboy

Meanwhile cakez/aero/pie are laughing at you winning the game for them

pisskop, dwlee, nahdia, mhsmith help

look at him just slip this pie scumread in there
Never mind that wouldn't make sense at all

yeah but a townie I think just deletes this not submits it

[drealmerz7]

there's probably just no vanillas

and it's "not role madness" because everyone has a role

even if useless, it makes em vanilla

mebbe

[drealmerz7]

I told you togotobed

[drealmerz7]

HAHAH damn

[drealmerz7]

I feel like Luna is literally just trying to get under my skin right now.

I feel like Luna legitimately has a scumread on you based on how critical you've been of her play and, yes, is taking every chance she can to react to what you do. Instead of commenting on that, beeboy, just focus elsewhere for now? We're all pretty well-understood on where both you and Luna stand in regards to each other.

scumbuddies talking

[drealmerz7]

SHUTTUP

YOU, in that corner

YOU, in that corner

[drealmerz7]

Ok so ur useless then

nope ive caught your buddy and im getting him lynched no matter how much you resist it

I'm back. Are we claiming things?

wisdom I am with you 100% IF IF IF varsoon is town

I guess I could go the other way

if cakez is scum, so is aero

but I'm more seeing you+varsoon+beeboy

[drealmerz7]

Here's the thing. If he's scum and provoking you, ignoring him will make it obvious that he's just provoking you for no good reason.

like I did with varsoon, ya?

[drealmerz7]

bednow

[drealmerz7]

is there anything any of you would like me to address? becaaauuuuse....holyfuckinshitppls! killla motherfucker already what more do you need?

[drealmerz7]

omfg what are you on about? you just keep wanting to milk a dry teet! I gave you all I had

scum

[drealmerz7]

is this what players today refer to as LAMIST?

yes, so very hard, yes

[drealmerz7]

this guy

hah

[drealmerz7]

OMG YOU DON'T HAVE A JUSTIFIED READ ON EVERY PERSON ON D1 YOU MUST BE SCUM

gtfo

[drealmerz7]

some games I don't get a read on anyone on D1

bwaaaa

[drealmerz7]

it's not a strategy, it's how it is

sorry folks but otherwise I'd just be bullshitting and that's not what you need if you lynch me

if you lynch me, lynch varsoon next, and if he's town, look at cakez and aero

if varsoon is scum, lynch beeboy and ?

seriously, I don't know, maybe look at pissk and mhsmith other than those I mentioned already, but I have no quotable reasons why, just big ? marks

[drealmerz7]

learn to read please

[drealmerz7]

how does that promote toxicity? they asked a question, I gave my view - it smells of extreme LAMIST to me, how is that promoting toxicity? you want my fucking reads or not?

I've been fucking sitting back getting the same shit from the beginning, keeping my cool, annnnnd, sorry I'm not doing better solving the game for ya'll, I've given all I've got in the way of reads

geezus fucking hell

[drealmerz7]

If you havent noticed its not really my thing.

I end up playing mostly by ear. But I guess I could occasionally be assed to do some work and pro-actively analyze stuff.

I'm just asking you to fucking READ THE WORDS so you don't ask questions for which there are already answers.

[drealmerz7]

You know, varsoon said the same thing ... ...

and his smelled like fake-ass-shit and rambled a woe-is-me LAMIST scum-spew, and I fucking just stated facts

anyway

ya'll figure itout, k?

[drealmerz7]

my read is that beeboy is scum doing it to luna on purpose (and out I go...)

Was goading beeboy and Luna on.
That's fucking dirty.

[/quote]

NOOO, I was giving my read on the situation. WTF.

[drealmerz7]

The tone of that post doesn't read like town saying their thoughts. I'd expect "personally, I feel beeboy is scummy for pressuring Luna like this". Not that casual bullshit.

ohwell!

I fucking watched that shit showww, and watched it, and watched it, tried to stop it at least once, watched it some more

gave my evaluation of it once I had come to comfortable decision to state as much

[drealmerz7]

I like you, pie

let's go play somewhereelse together and leave these bums

seriously though I think it's just D1 dragging on waayyyy fucking longer than it needs to, there's no meat, nothing to engage, it's just all, yep, mostly garbage getting tossed around needlessly and seemingly endlessly

hey, D2 could turn around, don't lose hope, pie!

but ffs ppl just end it one way or another already

2 wagons

pick 1 or start another and make a good case, but ffs

it's been thumb-sitting for *looks at where watch would be if had one* ...ummm years?

[drealmerz7]

At least now you know what it's like to be on the outside of the deathtunnel on me now Pie lol

at least you don't have idiots like beeboy going "I feel like she's just trying to sell me that Cakez is town, she could be scum with Cakez".

/sigh

hey, I had that thought actually!

that + I had if Cakez and/or Aero are scum could include you, I haven't discounted it, like I said, who knows, will have to see where it unfolds depending how things go

buuuut, I do think you're towny and trying to solve the game! I like you, pie

[drealmerz7]

I'm starting to think there might be an inordinate amount of scum in this game. FFS ppls.

[drealmerz7]

varsoon so desperate, if I lynch it will be a personal moral victory for him no doubt
he's so perturbed I caught him like I did
fight fight fight push push push

*yawnyawnyawn*

get your heads on straight ppls

[drealmerz7]

quit being so stubborn, wisdom

try it someone else's way for a change

you can watch them be wrong and then never try it again

[drealmerz7]

and you're always right and they're always wrong?

[drealmerz7]

no can do cakez is more towny than you and your associations and whatnot stink

varsoon/me needs resolved first otherwise more dead-endish

[drealmerz7]

if dreal/varsoon are v/v then cakey probably a wolf

that's what I said like...a long long time ago

when this all started

[drealmerz7]

but I think varsoon is the likely scum silly

and you are more scummy than cakez

only if I am wrong on varsoon will I vote cakez (and probably aero too)

[drealmerz7]

goddamn people and their egos

it's not ego

man, you're one of the last that should be posting about ego...

info, eh? I don't buy it

sell it better

[drealmerz7]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT YOU PPLS WTF PLAY THE GAME

[drealmerz7]

I'm talking to the players whose opinions matter

[drealmerz7]

Varsoon is town.

Cakez and pie are scum.

Third scum is 90% Aero, but everyone who has opposed or waffled on the Cakez wagon should be considered.

Please don't forget.

check varsoon first ppls

don't let this bully run the show

[drealmerz7]

how is it bad if we have the same scum list except for varsoon?

[drealmerz7]

why can't you see my view and understand "oh yeah I get that" ? because really...it fucking makes sense

[drealmerz7]

I'm totally with it that if varsoon is town, then cakez, aero, are scum

but why would they be so blatant? I don't think they would be

more likely the other way

I play by likelihoods

anyway

GIF, please, fucking end it already

yeahhh, you keep saying, but you do a SHIT job at convincing, arguing, showing your view and why you think what you think, like, SHIT SHIT SHIT job, at it, and so you bully bully bully push push push expecting everyone to just listen

it's fucking pathetic, but, hey, I'm the one who sucks...

[drealmerz7]

learn to read too

[drealmerz7]

I don't even think you have a playstyle

I suspect you don't know how to actually play

you know how to read, analyze, you know the rules and how things work

but you don't know how to play

[drealmerz7]

but omfg GIF, get on it, would ya?