Mini 1856 - This Mafia Game is for pieguyn (Game Over)

Luna Fox · Post Post #14 (isolation #0) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:54 am

Hello All!

Luna Fox · Post Post #23 (isolation #1) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:36 am

Why Dwlee?

Luna Fox · Post Post #26 (isolation #2) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:38 am

Also what's an indy?

Luna Fox · Post Post #27 (isolation #3) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:39 am

In post 24, beeboy wrote:Why aren't you asking about Cakez and Nahdia?

I'm asking about Dwlee because he hasn't posted

Luna Fox · Post Post #32 (isolation #4) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:44 am

oh so 3p?

Did terminology change in the months i wasnt around or something xD

Luna Fox · Post Post #40 (isolation #5) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:49 am

I can't tell which of bee's posts are serious and which aren't. RIP me.

Luna Fox · Post Post #44 (isolation #6) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:52 am

In post 36, beeboy wrote:lol nup fake claim

In post 37, beeboy wrote:UNVOTE:

VOTE: Aero

In post 43, beeboy wrote:
In post 40, Luna Fox wrote:I can't tell which of bee's posts are serious and which aren't. RIP me.

I only make serious posts

I really have a hard time believing that.

Luna Fox · Post Post #46 (isolation #7) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:54 am

In post 44, Luna Fox wrote:I really have a hard time believing that.

Luna Fox · Post Post #47 (isolation #8) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:54 am

Still you're probably town i guess.

Luna Fox · Post Post #51 (isolation #9) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:56 am

I'll read people the alignment they claim! then i can save myself the headache of figuring it out myself! xD

(just kidding)

Luna Fox · Post Post #57 (isolation #10) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:59 am

I'm really dissapointed with all these claims however u.u

Luna Fox · Post Post #62 (isolation #11) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:10 am

[quote="In post 61, pieguyn"][/quote]
He's so town, i mean look at #58, he called himself town twice!

On a more serious note i agree with the townreads on smith and pisskop.

Luna Fox · Post Post #63 (isolation #12) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:10 am

i dont even know what went wrong with that quote oops?

Luna Fox · Post Post #68 (isolation #13) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:13 am

In post 65, beeboy wrote:I am really confused on how so many people are town reading me.

^
Town

Luna Fox · Post Post #71 (isolation #14) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:16 am

In post 69, pieguyn wrote:that specific post isn't town, I think, I'm town reading him for something entirely unrelated.

Oh but it is!
And i was townreading him since before, so why even bring that up?

Luna Fox · Post Post #75 (isolation #15) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:18 am

In post 73, mhsmith0 wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
This is beeboy as scum. IIRC it's his only scum game so far on MS. it's old so not 100% but MUCH different tone and feel to his posts. Beeboy sounds here like he usually does. Therefore probably just town.

Umm try Gistou ^^;;

Luna Fox · Post Post #85 (isolation #16) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:35 am

In post 77, pieguyn wrote:
In post 71, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 69, pieguyn wrote:that specific post isn't town, I think, I'm town reading him for something entirely unrelated.
Oh but it is!
And i was townreading him since before, so why even bring that up?
no specific reason, I'm just getting a general feel of things.

if your reason for calling the post town is "scum don't question town reads on them", it's one of the easiest things in the world to fake.

Tee-Hee i know things you dont~
You seem to really like to apply your understanding of mafia globally dont you?

Luna Fox · Post Post #86 (isolation #17) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:38 am

In post 81, mhsmith0 wrote:but that was a hydra game for him

Uhh, it's not like it's hard to see the difference on his posts from everyone else's (heat didnt post, cakez was signing posts)
Regardless it's a very very very long game to read so i wouldnt blame you.

Luna Fox · Post Post #88 (isolation #18) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:39 am

In post 84, beeboy wrote:
In post 80, pieguyn wrote:
In post 78, beeboy wrote:I am not capable of faking stuff like that tho.
Go easy on me pie senpai :<
is this a serious assessment of your own meta?
No, I won't answer this further cause I want Luna to reply to you.

If you really wanna wait for my reply then just do so, im not here 24/7 and if you want to read me fairly from my replies it'd be better to wait

Luna Fox · Post Post #92 (isolation #19) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:54 am

In post 91, SirCakez wrote:I can already tell this is gonna be a rough game for scumhunting

I guess...

There's people like you and Varsoon whom i have a rough time reading >.<

Luna Fox · Post Post #93 (isolation #20) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:54 am

Then we have the ppl doing nothing like aero and gamma...
I hope by the time i get back from work they have posted... something.

Luna Fox · Post Post #94 (isolation #21) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:55 am

And by something i mean not unnecessary stuff like #72

Luna Fox · Post Post #106 (isolation #22) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:02 am

In post 102, SirCakez wrote:Aero's opening indeed sucked but the way he got wagoned so quickly almost feels too easy
If that makes sense

^
This always happens.

I can see why antihero gets frustrated by it ^^;;

Luna Fox · Post Post #112 (isolation #23) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:04 am

In post 108, Dwlee99 wrote:Are we seriously analyzing wagon speed to see if aero is town or not??
Baddddd

^
Agreed.
I don't get why ppl do that all the time.

Luna Fox · Post Post #115 (isolation #24) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:06 am

In post 109, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 101, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 99, Gamma Emerald wrote:Hm
Luna for blind spot scum
VOTE: Luna Fox
Blind spot scum? Clarify what that means.
One that's slipping past everyone else

Uhh, for that to be true i kinda need to be scum to begin with, so... would you explain why do you think i am scum.

Luna Fox · Post Post #122 (isolation #25) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:10 am

In post 119, pisskop wrote:dwlee is my masonbuddy

I thought dwlee was masons with bee and that's how bee said he was town...

Luna Fox · Post Post #124 (isolation #26) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:12 am

Well it is also a well known fact that scum like to lurk the pressure off ^_^;;

Luna Fox · Post Post #128 (isolation #27) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:27 am

In post 126, beeboy wrote:Luna pro tip you can't read Cakez and Cakez is town posting.

I've always relied on you for reading Cakez, that's not surprising.

Luna Fox · Post Post #159 (isolation #28) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:59 pm

In post 152, drealmerz7 wrote:causing me to VOTE THEM RIGHT NOW OMG

What dont you like about beeboy's soft?

In post 152, drealmerz7 wrote:beeboy suggests townbloc ppls - scummy

Why's that scummy?

In post 152, drealmerz7 wrote:comfy voting beeboy and mhsmith atm, they both are my only scum-reads atm

next closest is pisskop

Why smith? why pisskop?

Luna Fox · Post Post #166 (isolation #29) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:10 pm

In post 161, pieguyn wrote:hoi Luna. what do your reads currently look like?

I saw 62, but that was about it.

Somewhere where im townreading everyone except you, drealmers, gamma, aero, dwlee (?) <- pending thing about the masons, Varsoon, Nahdia (she claimed not town so welp), and Wisdom.
And the Cakez townread is more of trusting bee's read.
I think that's about it.

Maybe if i posted my townreads in the usual pretty fashion would've looked less like rollon text.

Luna Fox · Post Post #171 (isolation #30) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:14 pm

In post 169, pieguyn wrote:you think my first-post claim comes from me as scum?

It's not outside the realms of possibility of things pie-scum is capable of.

Luna Fox · Post Post #173 (isolation #31) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:15 pm

In post 170, Gamma Emerald wrote:LIES!
There's no way Luna can br townreading FB based on his one post!

He's not a player lol

Luna Fox · Post Post #188 (isolation #32) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:21 pm

In post 181, Gamma Emerald wrote:WOW
FIREBRINGER CAN PISS OFF FOR MAKING ME THINK I CAUGHT A SLIP

I feel like townreading this.
No way a newbie scum player gets this excited about "catching a slip"

Luna Fox · Post Post #199 (isolation #33) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:24 pm

Your join date is still recent enough for being able to fake that certain type of excitement and fake excitement about catching a scum slip.
It is possible, but highly unlikely.
So yeah.
P-Edit @Gamma

Luna Fox · Post Post #201 (isolation #34) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:25 pm

In post 196, beeboy wrote:
In post 188, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 181, Gamma Emerald wrote:WOW
FIREBRINGER CAN PISS OFF FOR MAKING ME THINK I CAUGHT A SLIP
I feel like townreading this.
No way a newbie scum player gets this excited about "catching a slip"
I don't buy it, scum players can get excited about catching people slipping as well. It isn't even necessarily faked he could legit be unhappy about something like that as scum.

So like
"Oh hey im dissapointed the player i was never going to mislynch anyway managed to get away"
pls.

Luna Fox · Post Post #203 (isolation #35) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:29 pm

That's not the way a newbie player's mindset works ^^;;

Luna Fox · Post Post #209 (isolation #36) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:32 pm

Well literally anything is fakable if you think of it that way.
You're just gonna end up mislynching people a lot more often if you keep thinking that way.

Luna Fox · Post Post #214 (isolation #37) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:38 pm

In post 211, drealmerz7 wrote:I have seen a new player roll scum and DESTROY town because they observered 2 games and knew what the fuck they were doing through and through

1 out of how many?
A good player that happened to manage to do that deserves the win, since they managed to fool everyone else.
I go by what's the norm behaviour i see from town and scum and try to incorporate a player's supposed experience into the mix + experiencial meta that i have with them if any.
In this way i can make better calls to find town and then just remove who's leftover.

Luna Fox · Post Post #219 (isolation #38) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:45 pm

In post 218, Gamma Emerald wrote:BTW this actually answered a question I posed earlier

What question?

Luna Fox · Post Post #223 (isolation #39) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:51 pm

Oh you could've had that answered by clicking on my wiki ^^;;

Luna Fox · Post Post #252 (isolation #40) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:12 pm

Why lie about something when you can be truthful about it and be townread to boot!
And you were arguing about a newbie player getting excited over a scum slip not meaning town?
The thing wisdom did is way more fakeable!

Luna Fox · Post Post #256 (isolation #41) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:15 pm

So do you scumread people that post that they arent reading the thread?

Luna Fox · Post Post #258 (isolation #42) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:15 pm

In post 256, Luna Fox wrote:So do you scumread people that post that they arent reading the thread?

^
@Beeboy

Luna Fox · Post Post #266 (isolation #43) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:19 pm

In post 261, beeboy wrote:Like I am explicitly town reading Wisdom for posting he isn't reading the thread. lol

You said that he did something that would get him scumread by doing that.
Have you scumread for posting that in the past?
And as i said before, that's even more fakeable than the excitment and dissapointment gamma presented that you argued to me with.

Luna Fox · Post Post #280 (isolation #44) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:30 pm

I think Varsoon's town.

Luna Fox · Post Post #287 (isolation #45) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:32 pm

In post 282, Wisdom wrote:luna do you have a read on me?

Not townreading you yet.

Luna Fox · Post Post #302 (isolation #46) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:48 pm

Why would ppl give towncred to someone for a null post.

Luna Fox · Post Post #306 (isolation #47) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:55 pm

In post 305, SirCakez wrote:Still that's a dumb reason to TR him

^
I agree with this.

Luna Fox · Post Post #312 (isolation #48) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 3:14 pm

Somewhere in page 2.

Luna Fox · Post Post #314 (isolation #49) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 3:19 pm

Gut.
Kinda hard to explain, but something in your change of heart stuff kinda made it feel like towny.

Luna Fox · Post Post #364 (isolation #50) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:53 am

In post 342, Wisdom wrote:gamma is town

In post 343, Wisdom wrote:smith is making me a little paranoid with all the defending but hes probtown too

If you hadn't been lazy you'd have noticed this way earlier ^^;;

Why is Cakez scum? Is there any magical secret to reading Cakez im not seeing and that's why i can never read him on my own? enlighten me.

Luna Fox · Post Post #369 (isolation #51) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 6:10 am

In post 366, beeboy wrote:
In post 361, Wisdom wrote:vote cakez and the next will be bettrr
I am null reading Cakez atm tho

What changed from you wanting him in your townbloc?

Luna Fox · Post Post #408 (isolation #52) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 12:12 pm

All those walls and no comment on anything of mine, i'm sad

Luna Fox · Post Post #452 (isolation #53) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 3:38 am

Gamma's right, did you miss aero's catchup posts?
Although he blatantly ignored me during his catchup.

Luna Fox · Post Post #454 (isolation #54) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 3:41 am

In post 453, pisskop wrote:bah. what about them made you townread him Luna?

Nothing about them made me townread him.
I just dont think that saying he's doing nothing is accurate.

Luna Fox · Post Post #455 (isolation #55) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 3:42 am

Or well, not playing

Luna Fox · Post Post #465 (isolation #56) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:37 am

In post 166, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 161, pieguyn wrote:hoi Luna. what do your reads currently look like?

I saw 62, but that was about it.
Somewhere where im townreading everyone except you, drealmers, gamma, aero, dwlee (?) <- pending thing about the masons, Varsoon, Nahdia (she claimed not town so welp), and Wisdom.
And the Cakez townread is more of trusting bee's read.
I think that's about it.

Maybe if i posted my townreads in the usual pretty fashion would've looked less like rollon text.

^
I posted it here, remove Varsoon and Gamma from it, then Cakez is also in my not townread list.

Luna Fox · Post Post #466 (isolation #57) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:41 am

In post 462, beeboy wrote:
In post 452, Luna Fox wrote:Gamma's right, did you miss aero's catchup posts?
Although he blatantly ignored me during his catchup.
How did he ignore you? I don't recall you posting anything directed at him.

He seems to agree with some of my opinions yet doesnt comment on them.

Luna Fox · Post Post #467 (isolation #58) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:44 am

Basically i think he might be faking some of those reads.

Luna Fox · Post Post #469 (isolation #59) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:47 am

In post 468, pisskop wrote:Do you think he should be townreading you because of your shared opinions?

Probably!
I mean if i see someone that thinks in the same way and come to the same conclusions i think they have the same mindset and hence, same alignment.
Some people just don't, and I wanted to see a reply from Aero first, but I guess now the point is kinda moot.

Luna Fox · Post Post #473 (isolation #60) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:56 am

In post 395, Aeronaut wrote:I don't understand what the point of this post was.

Here he was the same opinion i did on that post

In post 396, Aeronaut wrote:Can you tell me why that would be scummy to you

Here he asks the same question i did

In post 399, Aeronaut wrote:Oh please. Wisdom clearly isn't trying in that post, which is NAI at best.

Here's another shared opinion

Ok there's less than i remember, but still...

Luna Fox · Post Post #484 (isolation #61) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:04 am

In post 479, Aeronaut wrote:Are you really complaining that I'm not auto-townreading you just because we have the same opinions on a small few things? Boo, bullshit. The fact that you're pointing it out just tells me that you're looking to have your opinions townread by design, which is a really good reason not to be town reading you in the first place.

In the first place i misremembered and thought you were agreeing with more of my opinions, and in the 2nd place the one who would be going with the flow would be you.

Luna Fox · Post Post #488 (isolation #62) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:12 am

He already said he missed it...

Luna Fox · Post Post #494 (isolation #63) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:34 am

And now i dont know why im being voted.

Luna Fox · Post Post #533 (isolation #64) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:51 am

@Beeboy:
I dont think im townreading you for no reason. I explicitly stated that your posts on Page 2 gave me a gut townread.
Yeah I made that mistake, and i mentioned that earlier in 473
I was never pandering for townreads i was questioning why Aero never commented on anything of mine which imo if he agreed with stuff i said he should've had a townread, i was wrong on the former so the later obviously wouldn't come up as a result, it felt to me like he was just repeating what i was saying for towncred while keeping me in the null, but i misread/misremembered so i made a mistake there.
If my Gamma read is bad your Wisdom read is worse, pot meets kettle.

@pisskop:
I was never defending anyone. If I was defending someone i'd be out here yelling at people that want to lynch them.

Luna Fox · Post Post #546 (isolation #65) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:06 am

In post 538, beeboy wrote:
In post 533, Luna Fox wrote:I dont think im townreading you for no reason. I explicitly stated that your posts on Page 2 gave me a gut townread.
Yeah I made that mistake, and i mentioned that earlier in 473
I was never pandering for townreads i was questioning why Aero never commented on anything of mine which imo if he agreed with stuff i said he should've had a townread, i was wrong on the former so the later obviously wouldn't come up as a result, it felt to me like he was just repeating what i was saying for towncred while keeping me in the null, but i misread/misremembered so i made a mistake there.
If my Gamma read is bad your Wisdom read is worse, pot meets kettle.
So in regards to your gut read on me, during Dragon Age mafia you said something about me being able to town tell, so if you think I can fake myself breaking down I don't see how you would town read me for stupid posts I make literally every game. I am not joking I can't think of a game where you town read without me either A) Breaking down B) Having a town role and we have
a lot
of completed games together.

I don't know if I believed you made a mistake or not, I also don't see how you could come to the conclusion you had similar thoughts when his easy to find read list on post 401 shows his reads are the opposite of yours.

You gamma read goes something like this
You: Gamma is town cause he's a newer player and newer players can't fake that stuff
Me: Gamma has 5000 posts on site and over 1 page of completed games so he very clearly isn't a newer player
You: lol your bad

I actually didnt fully read his reads list ^^;;
And okay, you dont believe me when i said i made a mistake that's fine, but i did, and if you cant believe me then there's not much i can do about that.
Re: My read on you: Are you srs? Dragon Age Mafia i was super skeptical of literally everyone that wasnt Tevinter, specially coz i had claimed since first post in the PT, Gistou I also gave your hydra a very early town read, and PCB i was scared of everyone after what happened in Badass Women, If you want to scumread me for it then... fine i guess, I really can't defend myself against something I did anyway, If you dont believe I got a townread out of it and I'm town, then that's gonna be on you in the end, but i could also blame my luck for not having rolled scum like ever. I'm not gonna try to defend myself from your arguments anymore if you wanna continue pushing this scumread then go ahead, I'll continue doing my work as normal.

Luna Fox · Post Post #555 (isolation #66) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:15 am

Yeah, so?

Luna Fox · Post Post #556 (isolation #67) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:16 am

I read his catchup, i just misremembered, I just remember reading it and going like "Huh, he has the same opinion of me about this post, i bet he's gonna QFT me somewhere down the line" and then saw nothing.

Luna Fox · Post Post #578 (isolation #68) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:39 am

In post 571, beeboy wrote:
In post 556, Luna Fox wrote:I read his catchup, i just misremembered, I just remember reading it and going like "Huh, he has the same opinion of me about this post, i bet he's gonna QFT me somewhere down the line" and then saw nothing.
i literally just don't believe you didn't read his posts if you brought up how he ignored you twice.

Are you still at this
I said i read his catchup posts and misremembered, i didnt fully read his reads list
Like how much can you not be reading MY post to miss those facts.

Luna Fox · Post Post #601 (isolation #69) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:28 am

In post 599, beeboy wrote:I don't see how you can be both concerned with someone's posts without actually reading them as town.

Uh what?

Luna Fox · Post Post #602 (isolation #70) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:30 am

Dont you mean the opposite? That i should be concerned with someone's posts if im scumreading them (and you know i dont scumread)

Luna Fox · Post Post #605 (isolation #71) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:41 am

In post 603, beeboy wrote:I don't see how you can
1) be concerned with someones posts
2) not read someones posts

all at the same time

Except i read the catchup...
Bah well this is going nowhere since you dont believe i misremembered... i'm done with this conversation u.u

Luna Fox · Post Post #608 (isolation #72) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:43 am

In post 606, beeboy wrote:You literally said you didn't read his read list many times.

I said i didnt read it fully.
I was reading from top down and then went like "Wait why am i null when he's commenting on the same things i've commented"

Luna Fox · Post Post #609 (isolation #73) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:45 am

I'm literally done.
I think you're town and wrong.
And all this arguing is taking out energy that I rather spend finding the remaining town so i can nail down scum...

Luna Fox · Post Post #611 (isolation #74) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:01 am

In post 610, Varsoon wrote:So, then, Luna, who are your current townreads

In post 465, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 166, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 161, pieguyn wrote:hoi Luna. what do your reads currently look like?

I saw 62, but that was about it.
Somewhere where im townreading everyone except you, drealmers, gamma, aero, dwlee (?) <- pending thing about the masons, Varsoon, Nahdia (she claimed not town so welp), and Wisdom.
And the Cakez townread is more of trusting bee's read.
I think that's about it.

Maybe if i posted my townreads in the usual pretty fashion would've looked less like rollon text.
^
I posted it here, remove Varsoon and Gamma from it, then Cakez is also in my not townread list.

In post 610, Varsoon wrote:and how do you plan on going about sussing out the people who are left?

The same way i always do, i read their posts and interact with them if i cant seem to read them just from that.

Luna Fox · Post Post #612 (isolation #75) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:01 am

I should probably do one of my pretty reads list since it's easier to read...

Luna Fox · Post Post #640 (isolation #76) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:27 pm

Actually, My gut says that town beeboy wouldnt be using a "I dont believe town you wouldnt make mistakes in reading" since when am i good enough to be BoP'd?
VOTE: Beeboy

Luna Fox · Post Post #643 (isolation #77) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:40 pm

In post 641, Wisdom wrote:beeboy seems pretty town to me

Not really
When Mr. Im so familiar with Luna says "Town Luna doesnt do X" when in all of my games X has happened at least once, it's more of a mislynch attempt.

Luna Fox · Post Post #644 (isolation #78) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:48 pm

Just literally ISO me in any game, i always say that i misread or i misremembered at some point or other.

Luna Fox · Post Post #659 (isolation #79) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:10 pm

In post 646, beeboy wrote:
In post 640, Luna Fox wrote:Actually, My gut says that town beeboy wouldnt be using a "I dont believe town you wouldnt make mistakes in reading" since when am i good enough to be BoP'd?
VOTE: Beeboy
I like how you are trying to make it seem like I am putting BoP on you to discredit me.

You where concerned with Aero's posts
You did not read Aero's posts

That isn't BoP that is me noticing something that doesn't make sense and I would be scum reading anyone who did that.

I told you i misremembered stuff Aero did, I also showed how my mindset went when reading it.
You're the one saying i didn't read Aero's posts, when the only thing i didn't fully read was the reads list.
You aren't even readig my posts if you're still saying this.
You're literally saying:

In post 554, beeboy wrote:Your response to my main point about your Aero stuff being really sketchy is you made a bunch of mistakes and didn't read his posts.

And applying it as if i havent read ANY of his posts when i've literally stated:

In post 546, Luna Fox wrote:I actually didnt fully read his reads list ^^;;

In post 473, Luna Fox wrote:Ok there's less than i remember, but still...

You're blatantly misrepresenting my posts, and stating that me making mistakes makes me scum.

In post 554, beeboy wrote:Your response to
my main point about your Aero stuff being really sketchy is you made a bunch of mistakes and didn't read his posts.

Like what am i not a human being? am i not allowed to make mistakes?
P-Edit:

In post 653, mhsmith0 wrote:@Luna: You say that you make mistakes like these fairly often. Is there a game in particular that you feel represents that? I don't remember you substantially misreading anyone's posts in open 646, and I also don't remember you being OMGUSy there (despite Transcend spending a lot of the game pushing pretty hard on you, for largely garbage reasons). Is that also part of your meta that just happened not to show up that game?

Try Dragon Age Mafia or Street Fighter Mafia, heck probably some of the opens i played last year, or the Semi-Nightless we played.

Luna Fox · Post Post #661 (isolation #80) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:13 pm

Like literally find me a game where i didnt misread a post, or misremembered something or missed a post at some point in said game.
A game where i didnt make a lapse in judgment or went after someone just on the grounds of something i remembered incorrectly.
I dare you.
^
@Beeboy.

Luna Fox · Post Post #662 (isolation #81) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:14 pm

Like heck even i remember on dwlee's mini normal i misread or misremembered several things (and got scumread by ppl there for it).

Luna Fox · Post Post #664 (isolation #82) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:18 pm

In post 663, pisskop wrote:Stuck on Bee like Seinfeld.

What about the rest of us

I've already given my latest reads on the rest of you.

Luna Fox · Post Post #666 (isolation #83) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:20 pm

In post 665, pieguyn wrote:hoi Luna, how come you're so on edge this game?

I don't ask this as an "I think you might be scum" type of question, so please don't panic. I ask it as an "I want to understand your mindset" question.

Because i found scum.

Luna Fox · Post Post #667 (isolation #84) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:20 pm

Unless you mean since before my vote on beeboy.

Luna Fox · Post Post #672 (isolation #85) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:23 pm

Basically my mindset has gone from
Beeboy: "Hey I dont believe you're missing posts you're not town"
and me going in my mind "WELL IM TOWN, AND YOU'RE MAKING A MISTAKE WTH IS WRONG WITH YOU AND THIS STUPID PUSH"
After reflecting on it a bit I remembered beeboy has seen me make mistakes like this multiple times in the past
And so I figured he's just scum.

Luna Fox · Post Post #674 (isolation #86) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:24 pm

In post 671, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 655, Gamma Emerald wrote:I looked over Luna's ISO in Perfect Cherry Blossom and I don't see evidence of what she's saying.
Please address this Luna

I literally dont remember anything about that game other than pie and muffin being a scumteam since i wasnt even there most of the time due to lack of time to play the game, if you didnt find anything there then sorry? did you try to check any of my other games?.

Luna Fox · Post Post #680 (isolation #87) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:27 pm

In post 675, Gamma Emerald wrote:I just checcked the game I remembered you being in.

well if you read that game like you said in the signups thread you should remember i mentioned multiple times that i had lack of time, and in the end had to rep out due to the same lack of time (i actually shouldnt even have confirmed the pre in but that's not the point you're getting at anyway). Anyway, probably saying "All my games" was a bit too broad, but i dont really recall any game where it hasnt happened because i've always hated myself for never taking notes and then making silly mistakes like that (And i apparently still havent learned to take notes).

Luna Fox · Post Post #683 (isolation #88) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:31 pm

In post 679, beeboy wrote:Can you quote these mistakes since in Dank Meme, Street Fighter and Dragon Age mafia I can't remember you actually doing any of this. The exception to this would be dragon age mafia where you interpreted my "Luna town more pls" post as me saying I was scum reading you which is a lot more reasonable then what you did with Aero.

Also I am serious about lynching Drealz and giving Pie a chance to read you to convince me you are town if I am wrong.
Anyway I will reply to your other posts now.

Yeah sure, give me a min to find links
BUt off the top of my head:

Street Fighter mafia (You can literally just ctrl+F misread there) But i made a mistake in a quote pertaining Titus wrt Anti, I also made a misread in some statements Cakez made with his reads.
Dank meme: Made some mistakes when reading some of the idontrememberthenameofthevulpixavyperson's posts, and later on when i was trying to setup spec based on games related to normal game setups.
Dragon Age: Im fairly sure i misread something or misremembered something there but i'll look it up for you.

Luna Fox · Post Post #684 (isolation #89) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:32 pm

In post 681, beeboy wrote:I straight up have never seen you push someone without reading there posts and you said you do it regularly.

And again with the >Not reading<
You cant be this bad at reading my posts when i've literally brought it up every single time how you're misrepresenting my statement.

Luna Fox · Post Post #687 (isolation #90) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:34 pm

In post 676, pieguyn wrote:you seemed on edge to me since pretty much the start of the game, even before the whole beeboy/you interaction happened, but if I'm wrong, w/e.

Huh, not really.

Luna Fox · Post Post #688 (isolation #91) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:35 pm

In post 685, Nahdia wrote:since when is not reading the game a scumtell

>Beeboy pushes me for not reading
>I explain that i did read aero's posts but i didnt read the reads list fully and i explained until which point i read and what was my reaction to it
>Beeboy pushes me for not reading
>Me explains again

Like seriously is your brother this bad as town?

Luna Fox · Post Post #689 (isolation #92) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:36 pm

Because i refuse to believe he is

Luna Fox · Post Post #695 (isolation #93) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:39 pm

In post 691, beeboy wrote:I have never seen you make a statement about someone's stance on the game without actually reading the 1 post that explains there stance on the game.

My push (if that was even a push it was questioning) aero was entirely unrelated to his reads list it was related to his catchup.

Luna Fox · Post Post #700 (isolation #94) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:40 pm

Well i'll quote myself again then:

In post 659, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 646, beeboy wrote:
In post 640, Luna Fox wrote:Actually, My gut says that town beeboy wouldnt be using a "I dont believe town you wouldnt make mistakes in reading" since when am i good enough to be BoP'd?
VOTE: Beeboy
I like how you are trying to make it seem like I am putting BoP on you to discredit me.

You where concerned with Aero's posts
You did not read Aero's posts

That isn't BoP that is me noticing something that doesn't make sense and I would be scum reading anyone who did that.
I told you i misremembered stuff Aero did, I also showed how my mindset went when reading it.
You're the one saying i didn't read Aero's posts, when the only thing i didn't fully read was the reads list.
You aren't even readig my posts if you're still saying this.
You're literally saying:
In post 554, beeboy wrote:Your response to my main point about your Aero stuff being really sketchy is you made a bunch of mistakes and didn't read his posts.
And applying it as if i havent read ANY of his posts when i've literally stated:
In post 546, Luna Fox wrote:I actually didnt fully read his reads list ^^;;

In post 473, Luna Fox wrote:Ok there's less than i remember, but still...
You're blatantly misrepresenting my posts, and stating that me making mistakes makes me scum.
In post 554, beeboy wrote:Your response to
my main point about your Aero stuff being really sketchy is you made a bunch of mistakes and didn't read his posts.
Like what am i not a human being? am i not allowed to make mistakes?
P-Edit:
In post 653, mhsmith0 wrote:@Luna: You say that you make mistakes like these fairly often. Is there a game in particular that you feel represents that? I don't remember you substantially misreading anyone's posts in open 646, and I also don't remember you being OMGUSy there (despite Transcend spending a lot of the game pushing pretty hard on you, for largely garbage reasons). Is that also part of your meta that just happened not to show up that game?
Try Dragon Age Mafia or Street Fighter Mafia, heck probably some of the opens i played last year, or the Semi-Nightless we played.

Luna Fox · Post Post #702 (isolation #95) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:41 pm

So pushing me for "making a bunch of mistakes and not reading his posts" is not BoP and not Mirepresentation
Damn guess i need to go to the road to rome and relearn mafia wording then.

Luna Fox · Post Post #710 (isolation #96) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:44 pm

In post 706, beeboy wrote:
In post 702, Luna Fox wrote:So pushing me for "making a bunch of mistakes and not reading his posts" is not BoP and not Mirepresentation
Damn guess i need to go to the road to rome and relearn mafia wording then.
I am also scum reading you for your Gamma read and town reading me for no reason.

>When your wisdom read is based on something even more fakeable specially if it's Wis
>Townreading you for no reason >When i explained my reason
Yeah it probably was a bad reason since i can see now that my read was wrong.

Luna Fox · Post Post #711 (isolation #97) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:44 pm

In post 709, beeboy wrote:Like straight up I just want to move on from this.

You anger the fox, you deal with the fox

Luna Fox · Post Post #720 (isolation #98) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:51 pm

In post 716, pieguyn wrote:
In post 687, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 676, pieguyn wrote:you seemed on edge to me since pretty much the start of the game, even before the whole beeboy/you interaction happened, but if I'm wrong, w/e.
Huh, not really.
did you fear that beeboy's push on you would amount to anything?

I'm also a bit curious why I don't seem to be a high priority sort for you this game; is it because I haven't been here?

No i didn't. But when I find scum I push them until they or I die, specially when i detect BS pushes on me, you know me well enough, bebeoy also knows me well enough and you know what i mean by this.
Probably, You're still a high priority sort, that's why i haven't given you a townread yet until im damn fairly certain you're town, i dont want to townread you when you're scum like i did on PCB.

Luna Fox · Post Post #734 (isolation #99) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 2:18 pm

In post 732, Gamma Emerald wrote:I mean role cops would get different results.

Yeah that.
There was a mafia miller back in Tarot.

Luna Fox · Post Post #759 (isolation #100) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:30 am

I just remembered i promised some links but i kinda need to go to work like right now so i'll do that when i get back.
Please remind me and dont let me forget again, thanks.

Luna Fox · Post Post #760 (isolation #101) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:31 am

Also looking at that reads list what's the difference between ??? and null

Luna Fox · Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:29 pm

In post 762, beeboy wrote:I would love for you to find a game where you fail to read someone's read list and proceed to push them about there reads.

Except that's not what i did here.
First, I never pushed Aero, i was wondering why he was ignoring me.
Second, I was talking about his opinions during the catchup not his reads list. look at 473, Do you see me talking about reads in there?

Luna Fox · Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:33 pm

In post 765, beeboy wrote:Luna before you go and find posts I just want you to know that even if you really do regularly forget to read individual important posts that still doesn't change how sketchy it is you expect to be town read for sharing 1 or 2 reads with someone.

I thought there were more opinions, and i DO townread ppl that share my opinions most of the time, this isn't even new knowledge nor a surprise. If you think you're expecting to mislynch me for expecting other people to not parrot opinions and ignore the people that have already posted about them in the first place you got another thing coming.

Luna Fox · Post Post #772 (isolation #104) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:26 pm

In post 768, beeboy wrote:1. That you thought Aero made a variety of statements he never actually made and if you expected him to town read you based on similar thoughts you must have imagined a lot of statements that weren't actually there.

That happens like all the time, but no i dont call them imaginary posts i call it "i thought there were more opinions than what i remember"

In post 768, beeboy wrote:2. You read all of Aero's posts except his read list
where you only read his read on you and somehow managed to avoid at looking at anything else in his read list.
Which I also don't buy because you claimed to have read his town reads that contains a variety of players you aren't town reading and you thought he was fabricating your thoughts but didn't actually read what his thoughts where.

For someone that speaks english as their main language, you seem to be very bad at reading my posts like this one:

In post 608, Luna Fox wrote:I was reading from top down and then went like "Wait why am i null when he's commenting on the same things i've commented"

So either you're bad at reading english posts or you're misrepresenting me again, which one is it?

Luna Fox · Post Post #775 (isolation #105) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:28 pm

Well beeboy's moving the goalposts, but i'll still post them anyway

Spoiler: Dragon Age Mafia

Spoiler: Street Fighter Mafia

Spoiler: Pick your Poison

Spoiler: Semi Nightless

Spoiler: Dank Meme

I was going to keep looking through my games but got tired.

Luna Fox · Post Post #776 (isolation #106) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:29 pm

And now the links are messed up... that's what i get for using notepad coz i already lost what i was typing once >.<

Luna Fox · Post Post #781 (isolation #107) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:39 pm

You're scumreading me for making mistakes
You're scumreading me for "not reading" (when i already proved i never said i didnt read, i said i didnt fully read ONE of his posts, which was the reads list)
But as I mentioned, you keep moving the goalposts.

Luna Fox · Post Post #782 (isolation #108) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:41 pm

And how the fuck do you read this:

In post 608, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 606, beeboy wrote:You literally said you didn't read his read list many times.
I said i didnt read it fully.
I was reading from top down and then went like "Wait why am i null when he's commenting on the same things i've commented"

And go "Oh she read

only

the read on her"

Luna Fox · Post Post #785 (isolation #109) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:42 pm

Like i dont even know why you started bringing the reads list to begin with, when none of my questioning to Aero had anything to do with his readslist.

Luna Fox · Post Post #786 (isolation #110) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:43 pm

Oh so now you dont

BELIEVE

that I read half the reads list.
funny how that works since apparently all your scumread on me is based on things you

BELIEVE

now, not of things i've

DONE

Luna Fox · Post Post #789 (isolation #111) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:45 pm

In post 787, beeboy wrote:Sorry I didn't expect you to bring up his reads if they where never relevant.
I must be terrible :<

the reads might have been faked was a conclusion, but the opinions i kept arguing about where his catchup, like are you even reading my posts like at all?

Luna Fox · Post Post #793 (isolation #112) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:48 pm

In post 791, Wisdom wrote:luna can this please stop? it's not helping the game

I'm not stopping
beeboy's like 99% scum in my eyes.

Luna Fox · Post Post #796 (isolation #113) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:51 pm

In post 795, Wisdom wrote:he's not scum
please stop

Town doesnt do BS pushes on me full of misreps.
At least i've never seen town beeboy do that.
But since beeboy's kinda revenge heavy on me since Gistou I'm assuming this is his way of getting revenge.
To make me get mislynched when i've never been.

Luna Fox · Post Post #798 (isolation #114) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:54 pm

In post 797, Wisdom wrote:and you know town can do such pushes

Yeah last time someone did a push full of misrepresentation on me was scum and the rest of the playerlist just shrugged it off as TvT.

Luna Fox · Post Post #806 (isolation #115) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:01 pm

In post 799, beeboy wrote:We literally played PCB mafia between now and Gistou where I was town reading you while you called me claimed scum.

But in PCB you were town. that's the difference.
At some point i considered scum you would be buddying me instead, considering you know im freaking hard to mislynch, then I remembered that since you couldnt make my faction lose gistou you'll eventually get your revenge, and i figured you trying to get me mislynched would be a very good way to get revenge, and that's when i noticed you're more likely to be scum with a BS push on me.
I never mentioned opinions magically appeared, i mentioned I misremembered the ammount of opinions i shared with Aero, you just dont

Believe

it.
I never mentioned I only read Aero's read on me, I mentioned I read top down which makes it half the reads list, you just dont

Believe

it.
Your entire scumread on me is based off things you

Believe

, not off things i've done.
You're just putting words into my mouth.
I never asked to be townread, i was just wondering why someone sharing an opinion had me in the null since the norm i've always done is townread those people.

Luna Fox · Post Post #815 (isolation #116) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:00 pm

In post 811, pieguyn wrote:
In post 796, Luna Fox wrote:But since beeboy's kinda revenge heavy on me since Gistou I'm assuming this is his way of getting revenge.
is this something that he told you directly or is this something you're inferring based on what you'd expect him to do?

He told me that directly (tho i dont remember if he did it via PM on another platform or in the spoiled dead thread, the later shouldn't be too hard to check)

Luna Fox · Post Post #821 (isolation #117) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:09 pm

In post 818, beeboy wrote:But Luna is lying about something so simplistic it isn't even funny.

I'm not lying, you literally told me that you wanted to rekt my faction due to me catching you with a cop guilty, so you made entirely sure to rekt all of us, and when my faction still won in the end you told me you'll seek revenge one day.

Luna Fox · Post Post #826 (isolation #118) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:16 pm

Nope, and when im finding im gonna slap it in your face.
Tho if it's in a private communication it'll probably get me modkilled but w/e im not letting you get away with blatantly lying about what you've told me.

Luna Fox · Post Post #829 (isolation #119) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:19 pm

@Calez: Nope
I've never been more pissed at someone than i am in this game right now.

Luna Fox · Post Post #830 (isolation #120) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:20 pm

In post 828, beeboy wrote:
In post 826, Luna Fox wrote:Nope, and when im finding im gonna slap it in your face.
Tho if it's in a private communication it'll probably get me modkilled but w/e im not letting you get away with blatantly lying about what you've told me.
Do you want me to just replace out because us being in a game together clearly isn't working?
I don't particularly want to replace out but this is genuinely stupid and want this to stop.

So you want to put someone else in your scum slot?
Instead of taking it yourself?

Luna Fox · Post Post #837 (isolation #121) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:24 pm

Like, pushing me with BS reasoning is something every scum does.
But now saying im lying about something he clearly said is something i can no longer tolerate.
He's going to every single extent to get me mislynched at some point.

Luna Fox · Post Post #841 (isolation #122) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:26 pm

Well you're not.
You've misrepresneted everything i've said and spun it into a fake scumread to get me mislynched.

Luna Fox · Post Post #844 (isolation #123) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:28 pm

In post 840, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 837, Luna Fox wrote:Like, pushing me with BS reasoning is something every scum does.
But now saying im lying about something he clearly said is something i can no longer tolerate.
He's going to every single extent to get me mislynched at some point.
Yeah well that point isn't today so deal with it later? There are many ther players, talk about them again please.

Everyone townreading beeboy is scum
Everyone scumreading beeboy is town.
There.

Luna Fox · Post Post #847 (isolation #124) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:30 pm

Because i refuse to believe ppl can be town and not reading beeboy's posts to realize that he's been misrepresenting me all this time and attempted to pushed me based on it.

Luna Fox · Post Post #849 (isolation #125) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:33 pm

In post 848, Nahdia wrote:
In post 847, Luna Fox wrote:Because i refuse to believe ppl can be town and not reading beeboy's posts to realize that he's been misrepresenting me all this time and attempted to pushed me based on it.
Believe it, girl.

Sorry, I can't.

Luna Fox · Post Post #855 (isolation #126) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:36 pm

In post 850, mhsmith0 wrote:Beeboy hasn't really been pushing you that hard though, and it seems plausible that it was a misread/miscommunication, which kinda happens a lot in games. Other than "I can't believe he's doing this to me" (which obviously applies only to you here) i don't really see the case for it being an intentional scum ploy. It feels more like a fight that just spiraled out of control than anything else.

>Not pushing me hard
>Calling out for votes on me and attempting to mislynch me
>When asked why, he goes on about all these misreps as explanations
>Everyone ignores his misreps until now, and still continue to townread him

Okay how do does that make me think ppl are supposed to be town and townreading him again?

Luna Fox · Post Post #858 (isolation #127) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:37 pm

In post 853, beeboy wrote:I am sorry Luna I seriously don't have a memory of saying but I am guessing I probably did given your reaction and I probably messed up my scum read on you as well.

Can we please just drop this?

So im supposed to believe that i should forgive you for "not remembering doing these things".
But i on the other hand need to have photographic memory to remember everything from aero i read?

Luna Fox · Post Post #869 (isolation #128) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:44 pm

In post 860, beeboy wrote:
In post 858, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 853, beeboy wrote:I am sorry Luna I seriously don't have a memory of saying but I am guessing I probably did given your reaction and I probably messed up my scum read on you as well.

Can we please just drop this?
So im supposed to believe that i should forgive you for "not remembering doing these things".
But i on the other hand need to have photographic memory to remember everything from aero i read?
How about you just take a step away from this game and push me later?

So you want "one night" again?

Luna Fox · Post Post #877 (isolation #129) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:46 pm

In post 873, mhsmith0 wrote:He's really not been attempting to lynch you though. Like, looking at his quotes since his first move away from his push on you (when he went to dreal), he's fighting you on specific points but other than a brief but isn't voting you or calling for votes on you. It looks a lot more like he's just frustrated w you than it does that he's actually trying to get you lynched. And I'm a bit skeptical that scum!beeboy would just keep on the frustration bit this long WITHOUT actually making an effort to turn it into a mislynch.

It was kinda before he switched to drealz
with his whole "LF > Luna votes"

Luna Fox · Post Post #879 (isolation #130) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:47 pm

In post 878, beeboy wrote:I am sorry about lying about saying I will get revenge on you. I didn't remember saying it at the time and I am sorry about messing up my read on you.
You are taking this way too seriously Luna I just fucked up,

Oh coo you just fucked up, so i should scumread you for making mistakes too?
Like you scumread me for making mistakes?

Luna Fox · Post Post #889 (isolation #131) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:50 pm

In post 883, mhsmith0 wrote:Yeah but he's basically dropped that since and it's been >24 hours and it mainly looks like he's frustrated w you, and I'm not sure he's that good of an actor to fake it if scum, or that he'd actually be this frustrated with your push that no one believes if he was scum.

He also said he'd continue pushing me tomorrow (in game) before he finally fully dropped it.
He's been after my head all this time he's just been voting drealz coz ppl dont want to mislynch me.

Luna Fox · Post Post #894 (isolation #132) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:52 pm

In post 886, pieguyn wrote:
In post 872, pieguyn wrote:I would rather a lynch not occur before I actually have a chance to sit down and do shit in this game. thanks in advance.
I would like an explicit agreement for this.

I agree that i wont lynch anyone but beeboy today. And that's not happening anytime soon anyway.

Luna Fox · Post Post #934 (isolation #133) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:11 pm

In post 928, drealmerz7 wrote:and when I was luna there was a scumfuck doing exactly what beeboy is doing, just antagonizing it, luna can't let it go because she can't let it go cause she's like a repeatedly seered bull, every time she gets still the slightest movement at her makes her jump, beeboy keeps seering her and going at her making her jump

If he was doing that he wouldnt be asking me to drop it.
It's me who just can't let go of scum.

And while we're at it aren't you at L-1? What are you doing with your life. Are you hoping that im gonna continue to distract ppl by continuously going at beeboy?

Luna Fox · Post Post #942 (isolation #134) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:24 pm

Also before SOMEONE yells at me for not reading reads lists completely

In post 932, Nahdia wrote:Aeronaut my token attractive person i know: i actually liked their catchup like... a lot. thems were some quality posts. townlean or whatevs.

What quality posts?

Luna Fox · Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:26 pm

In post 1009, drealmerz7 wrote:town would have backed off, scum can't

I'm not backing off beeboy, you're townreading me because of my engagement with beeboy.
So you're literally seeing a town not backing off something.

Luna Fox · Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:27 pm

inb4 me not reading the first line of that post makes my post awkward.

Luna Fox · Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:43 pm

ugh i need to re-read the last 5ish or so pages because i've been skimming them and now i feel lost.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:41 am

>"Quote the places where i've been posting"
>It's against the rules to do that
>Still doesnt produce a reads list when asked by multiple people
>Is put at L-1 and instead of claiming links a video

Unvote
Intent

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:10 am

In post 1118, beeboy wrote:So do you think I am town?

Nope.
But if drealmz flips scum, then maybe.

Also while i was showering i realized that i haven't heard from pisskop in a while and he leaving the vote there is kinda disconcerting, does he not care that his supposed scumread (me) can jump in at any time?

Imma retract my intent while i wait for him to pitch in as well.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:11 am

Also i think the video means he's claiming VT.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:12 am

In post 1120, beeboy wrote:So if I am still 100% claimed scum or whatever why are declaring intent on Drealz?

Because i'm not a double voter.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:12 am

In post 1120, beeboy wrote:So if I am still 100% claimed scum or whatever why are declaring intent on Drealz?

Because i'm not a double voter.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:13 am

But if you like my vote on you so much you can have it back
VOTE: beeboy

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:56 am

drealz went back to L-2 with bee's unvote so...

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:37 pm

In post 1145, pieguyn wrote:before we go to night phase, Luna, what do your scum reads outside of beeboy look like?

I just came back from work, so i'm responding this without reading any further post from here and will go back to reading those after.
While i was scumreading bee i had a strong feeling that you, aero or pisskop could be scum as well. After a while i feel slightly better about Aero, and when i mentioned that post that i was going to re-read those 5 pages coz i was confused.... and then i ended up scumreading both Varsoon and drealz, and i've been continued to be confused, then this morning well... you saw my post where i declared intent on drealz, and up until a few mins ago i still had those 3 as scumreads.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:46 pm

In post 1174, pisskop wrote:Then Lynch his ass.

I was going to, but i remembered you hadn't pitched in for like forever so i retracted my intent, and apparently said youtube video is his "claim".

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:50 pm

In post 1192, beeboy wrote:Nahdia and Luna did

Uhh i never voted him i declared intent and retracted it coz i wanted to hear more from the ppl who hadn't had time to pitch in ^^;;

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:51 pm

In post 1210, pisskop wrote:You can still rectify your errors.

Depends on what happens in the few posts i haven't read yet, but so far i dont think my opinion of Varsoon and drealz being SvS is changing.
I understand why people are scumreading Varsoon, i just dont understand why ppl are townreading drealz (or at least not scumreading him).

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:52 pm

And right after i say that i see pie's post right after... lol

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:04 pm

Ok so im all caught up.
Here's the thing, I agree with most of aero's and pie's comments on Varsoon's play (like asking pointless questions, etc). And I know town can be uncooperative, but the way drealz has played that whole debate with Varsoon seemed more like he doesn't want to throw associatives more than anything and that's why he's closing himself up. And I also agree with pie that this could potentially be a bus.
The reason i thought pie could be scum earlier was her initial claim and 728, but her thoughts on the Varsoon/Dwlee thing has made me feel better about her.
Drealz is kinda weird, because i've seen sometimes town do what drealz is doing, but my mind keeps saying it's just scum avoiding associatives (I mean i once did lynch a Wisdom that didnt want to claim).
And beeboy's throwing BS to try to ML me, then when ppl townread me he townreads me, like it's hard to figure out if he's trajectory towards me is coming naturally or is faked, and im still leaning very heavily on the later, specially because apparently only HE can make mistakes, only HE can misread, and i have to have phtographic memory of every single game i play.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:09 pm

I mean you say these things about drealz:

In post 970, beeboy wrote:
In post 962, Aeronaut wrote:Beeboy what is the Drealz scum case ?
I think he is trying to make me and Luna 1v1 more and he has yet to explain his reads from page 22.

And when i disengage and look at drealz, you instantly try to draw me back in with:

In post 1120, beeboy wrote:So if I am still 100% claimed scum or whatever why are declaring intent on Drealz?

So...

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:10 pm

It's like you want to trap me or something so you can get your ML on me that you've been craving for months.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:14 pm

In post 842, beeboy wrote:I actually think you are town now.

And so what changed from this po-

In post 1204, pieguyn wrote:cancel my Luna read for the time being.

Oh... right.
And you want me to supposedly believe your read on me has a natural trajectory?

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:18 pm

In post 1225, beeboy wrote:1222 is a cute post but you still haven't explained how me and Drealz can be scum together.

The reason why you going on Drealz is a problem for me is that nothing in my posts suggests I am busing and I am your top scum read yet you are ok being on the Drealz wagon.

And apparently you're still refusing to read my posts:

In post 1119, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 1118, beeboy wrote:So do you think I am town?
Nope.
But if drealmz flips scum, then maybe.

I have an independent scumread on both of you, I don't see why I have to be doing pre-flip associatives if i dont feel like it.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:22 pm

You're asking me as if i had a day cop and saw drealz be scum.
So if drealz flips town then what, am i supposed to have stopped my concerns with you the previous day?

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:25 pm

In post 1228, beeboy wrote:
In post 1120, beeboy wrote:So if I am still 100% claimed scum or whatever why are declaring intent on Drealz?

In post 1127, beeboy wrote:ok I just dob't think me and Drealz can reasonably be scum together.

Although I posted my concern way back here before Pie said anything.

Sure you posted a concern there, but that could literally be anything in your reads, from questioning town, to going back to null or to full out scumreading me, am i supposed to be a mind reader now too? on top of having photographic memory?

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:25 pm

In post 1234, beeboy wrote:I haven't asked any of that in the slightest but ok!

I am saying from your POV you should want to lynch me before Drealz because your read on me is a lot stronger (or that's how I interpret your posts) as there isn't a world where we share the same alignment.

Do you see yourself getting votes other than mine?

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:27 pm

Or what, since i have a stronger scumread on you than drealz im supposed to ignore my other scumread for the rest of the day.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:29 pm

Like i've been trying to get you lynched for pages and all i see happening is
"Hey guyz you both townz, this is totes TvT can you plz stop it pl0x"

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:36 pm

In post 1241, beeboy wrote:
In post 1238, Luna Fox wrote:Like i've been trying to get you lynched for pages and all i see happening is
"Hey guyz you both townz, this is totes TvT can you plz stop it pl0x"
Why pressure Drealz over any of your other scum reads that make sense with me flipping scum. (Like your Varsoon scum read who has plenty of votes)

Because i didnt like how Drealz was being uncooperative way back on that page.
I even mentioned the reasons why I was declaring intent on my post where i declared intent.
Are you being this blind on purpose, coz it is getting really tiring having to repeatedly show you all the things you're not reading.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:40 pm

In post 1249, beeboy wrote:you said without ever addressing what I am actually saying

I am adressing it.
You're basically saying that it is impossible for me to scumread both you and drealz.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:43 pm

Ok you know what.
Since it's literally impossible to get scumbee lynched, and our argument is starting to annoy people, and when i tried to go off bee just drew me back in, im just gonna make life easier for everyone

suicide bomb: beeboy

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:45 pm

it is very real, see ya guys when im fully back from my hiatus that i had... some sort of fun playing i guess (trying to get scumbee lynched was sucking all the fun out of me).

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:49 pm

wow if that's real, hope scum bee reks all of you.
Bye guys o/

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:05 pm

I currently have the same feeling i had in badass women.
Where i scumread pie and ppl proceeded to ignore my read on her and she proceeded to destroy everyone.
Here i'm scumreading bee, and people continue to ignore his attempts at BSing.
(also yes that suicide bomb was fake)

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:08 pm

In post 1371, Wisdom wrote:luna bee is town. Cut it out already.

He's not.
And i'm gonna sit on this vote here for the rest of the game if i have to.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:10 pm

In post 1376, Varsoon wrote:Can you lay out, in one post, what's informing your scumread on Beeboy?

Constnatly misrepresenting my posts, saying im scum for making mistakes then he makes mistakes too then he doesnt remember wanting revenge or any other times i've made mistakes but expects me to have photographic memory of all my games and every post i read, and when i tried to finally end the engagement with him he provokes me to keep engaging with him, in addition of accusing me of things im not doing because apparently he cant read my posts.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:13 pm

In post 1389, Varsoon wrote:Yeah, that's why I'm seeing this as frustration between you two rather than anything alignment-indicative.
Like, Luna, what does Beeboy, as scum, have to gain from this line of pursuit? What's the scum motivation?

Making ppl scumread me and mislynch me.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:13 pm

In post 1390, beeboy wrote:
In post 1383, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 1376, Varsoon wrote:Can you lay out, in one post, what's informing your scumread on Beeboy?
Constnatly misrepresenting my posts, saying im scum for making mistakes then he makes mistakes too then he doesnt remember wanting revenge or any other times i've made mistakes but expects me to have photographic memory of all my games and every post i read, and when i tried to finally end the engagement with him he provokes me to keep engaging with him, in addition of accusing me of things im not doing because apparently he cant read my posts.
I would argue the inaccuracies in this but you can't lynch me anyway so /shrugs

cocky scum detected

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:18 pm

In post 1402, Varsoon wrote:I don't find Beeboy's responses to you to be critical enough of your alignment, just your play.

Then you need to read his ISO better.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:24 pm

I havent been reading the wisdom/cakez back and forth much, but i did pitch in about you/drealz, i said it looked like SvS, but then that drealz claim...

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:27 pm

more on the thing that im not willing to lynch someone that MAY BE a backup doctor on D1.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:31 pm

Of course beeboy would like to lynch a claimed Nurse.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:35 pm

In post 1429, Varsoon wrote:Why?

Because we dont need to do scum's job for them.

In post 1429, Varsoon wrote:Do you think the game would be designed such that town all have town-looking roles when claimed, especially stuff like Backup IC, and scum don't?

I think everything will sort itself out over time, scum know who's town already, they will know who to shoot we don't know who to lynch.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:37 pm

In post 1444, beeboy wrote:
In post 1439, drealmerz7 wrote:because as much as I feel my hook in you is good

he's fucking scumfish flapping around like crazy over there and you'd get good towncred with me if we kill him together
what the fuck does this even mean

It means that you're scum desperately trying to continue your mislynch after it's vanishing.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:39 pm

In post 1449, Varsoon wrote:The problem is that, if the setup is designed in that way, claiming only benefits town. A mass-claim clearly outs the scum and town get to win, EZ PZ.

I never implied it couldnt be a fake claim, im implying we let scum worry about him over the night instead of going lynch hungry on a claimed nurse D1.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:42 pm

Besides,
Haven't you ever played tit for tat? it's entirely possible there's a scum doctor that if we kill drealmerz becomes a doctor.
And considering we have 2 backups already (tho i dont think a scum GC is likely unless it's there entirely for the purpose of triggering the backup IC if they dont trigger their GC).

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:45 pm

Actually Tit for Tat was the first thing that came to my mind when i saw 2 backup claims already, I'd like people's opinion on this:

In post 1460, Luna Fox wrote:Besides,
Haven't you ever played tit for tat? it's entirely possible there's a scum doctor that if we kill drealmerz becomes a doctor.
And considering we have 2 backups already (tho i dont think a scum GC is likely unless it's there entirely for the purpose of triggering the backup IC if they dont trigger their GC).

Likewise there could be scum backup roles that trigger if they kill the town version.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:48 pm

In post 1471, Varsoon wrote:'m leaning more on the end that there's backups with no actual role.
The Backup-IC claim, for instance, strikes me exactly as that.

Why?
It needs the other IC to not use it's ability to inherit it.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:50 pm

In post 1480, SirCakez wrote:look at him just slip this pie scumread in there
Never mind that wouldn't make sense at all

he's had a scumread on pie for a while.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:52 pm

In post 1483, Varsoon wrote:@Luna: Because, if claimed, gives town two unlynchable slots in a 13P game.

Yeah but, if the first one claims it cant confirm, and if it confirms pie cant confirm it.
Well idk, but it's still better than bee's idea of doctor+nurse+ic+backup ic and all town.
heck even both ic+backup ic may be too broken yet bee rather lynch claimed nurse and believe pie's backup ic claim.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:55 pm

In post 1489, SirCakez wrote:he literally said he thought pies claim was town like two pages ago
Because backup IC would be an absurd scum fakeclaim

Really:

In post 1186, Wisdom wrote:if it wasnt for her claim id be thinking pie is scum

This is the first sign of scumreading pie for her play, yet letting her off due to her claim.

In post 1355, Wisdom wrote:cakez/aero/pie?

or maybe luna instead of pie

And he started including her in his scumpool here.

So no, Wisdom isnt doing what you're saying he's doing.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:02 pm

In post 1516, Varsoon wrote:
In post 1512, beeboy wrote:I feel like Luna is literally just trying to get under my skin right now.
I feel like Luna legitimately has a scumread on you based on how critical you've been of her play and, yes, is taking every chance she can to react to what you do. Instead of commenting on that, beeboy, just focus elsewhere for now? We're all pretty well-understood on where both you and Luna stand in regards to each other.

I feel like beeboy's taking more time trying to find mistakes in my posts to try to push me than actually trying to solve the game.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:08 pm

In post 1522, beeboy wrote:
In post 1520, Luna Fox wrote:I feel like beeboy's taking more time trying to find mistakes in my posts to try to push me than actually trying to solve the game.
You have literally never asked me about my reads.

I know where your reads are
You want dreamlz ded
Your read on me flip flops more than a fish out of water.
And you're townreading kop, pie and wisdom.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:11 pm

In post 382, beeboy wrote:
In post 380, pisskop wrote:Beeboy is my mason buddy. too
Confirming that this post is the truth.

And then continued to ask drealz about the scumread on wis and kop.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:13 pm

In post 1532, mhsmith0 wrote:@luna: presuming beeboy is scum, who else makes sense as scum? Please start pushing that person, and for reasons not fully dependent in beeboy interactions? Please and thank you.

Yeah sorry, beeboy just likes provoking me.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:15 pm

In post 1533, beeboy wrote:Ok one I fake claim Mason every game.

Do you fake mason claim with someone you're not townreading?
Coz afair both times i've seen you claim masons it was with someone you were townreading

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:17 pm

Uh yeah, but you townread me that game until you eventually scumread me.
You also townread rb and fake claimed masons with him.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:21 pm

In post 1545, mhsmith0 wrote:The two of you shitting up the thread is bothering me and I think everyone else. So just move on.

I was moving on until he started provoking me again :<

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:24 pm

In post 1551, mhsmith0 wrote:Then ignore him. Let him have the last word since you're not getting lynched today anyway
Do it for me.

But he's scum...
Like I literally cant believe beeboy's town and just trying to anger and provoke and trying to find every single mistake i make.
If he's town this game he's pissing me off so bad im never playing with him again.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:34 pm

In post 1553, pieguyn wrote:this setup seems to be pretty obviously role madness. setup speculation based around this being anything that is not role madness should cease and desist, and so should any form of "not lynching this because this person is a PR", including what seems to have happened with drealz.

vote: dwlee

What do you think of my Tit for Tat speculation.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:34 pm

Like i literally called everyone to comment on it and only Varsoon did :<

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:43 pm

In post 1557, mhsmith0 wrote:I don't really have that much experience w role madness setups. It seems a bit odd for scum to have multiple fake claim roles in a non flavor game, which means that pies claim seems likely to either be a ballsy gamble, a troll role given to scum (backup ic in a game with no ic) or an actual role.

Tit for Tat is an Open game where Town has a backup of a role scum has and scum has a backup of a role town has.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:54 pm

In post 1563, mhsmith0 wrote:Do you think that sorting those claims should be an urgent issue?

Not urgent per se, but at least it means it makes sense

if

the claims so far are town. I've always learned to look at claims from both sides, so im trying to figure out if the claims we have so far make sense (disregarding the current neighborhood thing since anything could be in there).

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:54 pm

In post 1564, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1460, Luna Fox wrote:Besides,
Haven't you ever played tit for tat? it's entirely possible there's a scum doctor that if we kill drealmerz becomes a doctor.
And considering we have 2 backups already (tho i dont think a scum GC is likely unless it's there entirely for the purpose of triggering the backup IC if they dont trigger their GC).
The fuck? A) that's a JK and B) in order for scum doc to be useful a vig/SK needs to be present

That's not the point i was trying to make.

Luna Fox · Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:12 pm

In post 1568, pieguyn wrote:I get that Luna is capable of being a really fucking dangerous scum player

Sigh...
It's things like this that make me want to permanently quit mafia.

Luna Fox · Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:09 am

In post 1581, Wisdom wrote:Luna is the one who keeps refusing to do anything other than talking about beeboy even when beeboy stops responding to her

This is a lie.

Luna Fox · Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:10 am

In post 1592, pisskop wrote:VCA says that Gamma is scumfucker

VCA sux, but i didnt like that naked vote either.

Luna Fox · Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:12 am

In post 1591, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why are you saying no take-backsies

What was the point of this question.
Like what does saying No Take Backsies have anything to do with pisskop's alignment.