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Post Post #55 (isolation #0) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:46 am

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Post Post #56 (isolation #1) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:47 am

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I got into this lately. I have been trying to play a lot of Seth games.
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Post Post #58 (isolation #2) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:31 pm

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I'm interested in maining him. How would FGs work?
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Post Post #59 (isolation #3) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:31 pm

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Seth has one of the best finishers tbqh
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Post Post #61 (isolation #4) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:19 pm

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Forum Games, not force gauges. To be honest, I think every newbie should play Seth once or twice - my understanding of bases and how they interact has improved by leaps and bounds since I started playing him.
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Post Post #63 (isolation #5) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:37 pm

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I'd be
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interested in playing BattleCON via forum. For me, I usually play on Tabletop Simulator, a Steam game which allows you to emulate a real-time BattleCON game online. Seth improved my game a lot because I needed to spend twice as much time on a single move, considering both my attack pairs and my opponent's. For that reason, learning the bases was much more useful for me, because it streamlined that part of the thinking process easier. Instead of trying to run through all the options, I can just go "oh - I'm at range 3, with burst in my discard. He probably expects a shot and is going to drive." Yes, there are situations where drive doesn't beat shot, but I'd argue that the base interactions are where you first think off. Unless my opponent is at a far higher level than me(I'm mostly playing with beginners like myself) he's not going to jump immediately to the optimal attack pair, he's going to think "drive > shot" and then consider if there's any style or force ante that would let him change that.
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Post Post #65 (isolation #6) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:19 pm

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I have seen the BattleGuide on Seth.

I played Seth in two games today - both of them were very satisfying. The first was against a Kallistar. I dodged a few of her attacks early on and whittled her down, but she nailed me with a couple of big swipes that left me at 1(!!!) health, while she was at 8. Throughout the next 5 beats, she was unable to do any damage to me at all and I ended up finishing her off. I was especially proud of that because I managed to survive for 5 beats against her.

The second one was a particularly crushing game I played against Dimitras. The person who played Dimitras expressed strong frustration that I was able to predict his beats and out priority what should have been the faster character by far. Due to my passive and his lack of crescendo(since he couldn't hit me and I hit him) he couldn't smack me at all. I found that Vanishing Shot was very effective at nailing Dimitras when his dash was down. We ended the game 17-0.

I'm mixing playing Seth and non-Seth characters to try out more characters while still getting experience on Seth. I would be interested in playing against any character. Pick one that you think is fun to play.
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Post Post #67 (isolation #7) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:33 pm

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What is UA? Oh, by the way - how would you advocate dealing against Cadenza? I played a Seth game against him and I... straight up died. He walked up to me, hit me, and I died. I tried hitting him back, to no avail(he iron bodied my omen stun). 12-0 loss, with me dodging only one of his attacks.
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Post Post #69 (isolation #8) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:48 pm

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Yeah, but Cadenza has tons of advances and his grapple shot is long-distance :|
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Post Post #71 (isolation #9) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:17 pm

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Maybe after our game together then! Although if we're going Seth vs Cadenza I'd prefer to play Seth - I think I improve best if I play against strong or difficult matchups.
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Post Post #73 (isolation #10) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:35 pm

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Force Gauge and Dodge, please.
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Post Post #76 (isolation #11) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:18 pm

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I had the privilege of speaking to Marco, the guy who makes the BattleGUIDE videos, recently. He provided a lot of good insights on my Seth play, chief of which that I tried too hard to predict my opponent, rather than using Beyond Eyes as a safety net to cover the final option. He said I should think of Seth's UA and Wyrding/Omen proc was similar to "Bob Ross" beats - not something you strive for, but a happy little accident that gives you an edge. I thought that was a very interesting way of looking at it.
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Post Post #84 (isolation #12) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:03 pm

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In post 83, GreyICE wrote:
In post 81, Zorblag wrote:@GreyICE, Troll got distracted before the last game, but does Hepzibah vs. Endrybyt sound like a game you'd be interested in playing?

-Zorblag R`Lyeh
Oh hey, I didn't see this.

Sure, I have little Hepzi experience, but I'll play it.

New tokens solve two huge issues with the game in one motion - the round counter being regularly forgotten, and the force gauge not being an ability that you can actually ante.
play Anathema whatever with antes on power, prio and either range or ignore SG, depending on which one you need

if he doesn't hard read it you hit for 8 and he can't do anything
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Post Post #86 (isolation #13) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:55 pm

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I want to play a game with anyone. Spreadsheets or forum. I'll be Tanis.
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Post Post #87 (isolation #14) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:57 pm

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Zorblag, what do you think are the strongest tournament characters, and how did you select them? I'm currently running Seth/Clive/Mikhail, though anyone but Seth are subject to being swapped in for my reserves(Tanis/Thessala/Rexan/Lesandra). I no longer think Zaamassal is tournament-worthy though; he gets beat down by people like Vanaah and Clive.
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Post Post #88 (isolation #15) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:57 pm

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Also Byron is tournament viable and I don't care what HUECTRUM says.
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Post Post #91 (isolation #16) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:29 am

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I think Cesar is a little too predictable. Karin is fine as a tournament character. Burman is ok but aside from his finisher, he's "merely moderately strong". Don't like Magdelina for tournaments because she gets killed by beatdown characters and disruptors. Lixis is strong but I'm not convinced she's top tier.

Not enough experience with Tatsumi to say, but she seems a little MU-dependent. That said I think she's solid and would happily play Tanis vs Tatsumi against you.
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Post Post #92 (isolation #17) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:29 am

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I also commissioned some Seth art, and can post it when I get to a computer.
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Post Post #93 (isolation #18) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:07 pm

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Additionally, I feel that the ability to perform well against a wide range of fighters is crucial for a good tournament pick. That's why fighters like Endrbyt, Clive, Rexan, Thessala and Lesandra are so strong.
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Post Post #95 (isolation #19) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:49 am

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2nd place on the tournament. I did way better than I expected. I thought I would get knocked out round 1. Zorblag, this means we can finish our game.
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Post Post #96 (isolation #20) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:13 am

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