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[Gamma Emerald]

We very likely have some form of protective role, but I think it's a Bodyguard, given the current town power.

[Joshz]

R I p mykonian

Early cop claim

2016-2016

[Joshz]

RQS Time!

1) What roles do you like? What roles do you not like?

2) What is a behavior you would lynch if the person who did it was a null read?

3) Who, if town, would you trust with your vote?

My answers:

1) I like Jailkeeper for its multiple uses. Don't like Bus Drivers or Ascetics.
2) I don't like people being inconsiderate.
3) MariaR or kraska, maybe EP or myko

I'm going to entertain this then get back to the game:
1. I like complicated Bastard roles, but I especially love the Goo roles. I hate traitors.
2. Refusing to contribute towards Town.
3. In this game right now, No one. I trust only myself fully.

Read #2 and his answer to it rofl

[gigabyteTroubadour]

lmaooooo

jordy's town tho

[mykonian]

yeah, hasty post. In many respects. Probably the less said about it the better.

Uhm, if I went on like I have, I'd say MTD town, Jordan scum. MTD's play has made natural sense to me as I know him. I have wanted Jordan lynched for ages.

On topic, I was oblivious that Kraska was the vig, was thinking transcends talking pointed to a limited shot (1 or 2 shot) vig. Might have to do with that I didnt expect a full vig anyway, might have to do with as well that I dont play too much with you guys, and you seem sort of in tune with another, which has made this game a bit hard for me at times. Anyway, what I'm getting at, EP was in a similar position I think, where he didn't quite follow what was going on between you at all times, meaning his partner would have to call this shot?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

that's true... (i mean they (as in just EP) might have known)

which points AWAY from jordan, because jordan doesn't know kraska or really anyone here that well (this was our first game together on a forum where i can take the time to scrutinize him and what not)

plus i don't think jordan would pick up on it either

[gigabyteTroubadour]

also i think this is josh's first game here and he picked it up so idk, it's probably just a playstyle thing

[Transcend]

Excellent job kraska

I really wish scum didn't pick up on our role swap, but whatever.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

yeah actually with the knowledge that Maria is scum and they had daytalk...

jordan seems even less likely, Maria would definitely at least try to help him not be stupid during D1

[Joshz]

REM

This may be a town post the more I think about it. It is one of those posts I'd imagine scum wouldn't make because of how awkward it looks.

- what is your justification for the above? I find it a disagreeable post but unsure if playstyle clash.

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MYKONIAN

- how strong was your kamelot read as of page 2/3?
- this read stays throughout the entirety of the game up to the present. Anything that adds to the strength of that read from bottom of page 2?

gamma, imagine a hallway, with all kinds of tripwires with little bells to them. How you catch sneaky scum? Well they step on a line and then you hear them.

You are rather barging through that hall.

- Is this just a restatement of Rem's 57 or are you trying to say something different here?

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KAMELOT

But its cool to join a wagon on a player because of an NAI post
You joined the Gamma wagon but didnt agree with the case??? lol

- i think this is a seriously poor move onto a kyouko wagon, who i am not in the slightest interested in lynching right now.
- actually. the explanation for the move off right after that if the previous were true would be that you were backpedaling off of confrontation with kyouko. not sure if i entirely think that's too plausible. I dont think your actions after the Kyouko -> MTD switch make that much sense if you were scum.
- word on 137. good post (by which i mean its a good thing to say not in any game relevant context, but just a good thing to say)

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MTD

- you're calling kyouko for a perceived "inconsistency" between action and words that I disagree with. not that it doesnt exist, but it isn't a scumtell. unsure if intentions are good here but it doesn't stink as much as kamelot's move. basically i think its a crazy weak stance. thoughts?

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GAMMA

VOTE: Road Kamelot
5 points for anyone who can guess why

- is this "points to whoever can guess why I'm doing this" thing a new trend or something? what's the motive? I definitely remember someone else doing this earlier, whoever did that can answer this too. it looks like an overall very unproductive move that's focused on self-image.
- btw, you are giving me the most trouble right now. its hard to consolidate your play into any single category, whether it be "town" or "scum" or "null" or "town whose playstyle i find very disagreeable"
- whats your justification for lack of transparency being helpful overall?

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how the fuck do people who have never played on MS (and in kyouko's case, on forums) know what NAI stands for? Is this some sort of internet-wide thing?

and what's with gamma patronizing the newbies? that's uncalled for, newbies can do fine.
totally unrelated to the game plea: can we as a community stop with the bullshit elitist rhetoric like newbies need to earn their stripes to get listened to at all? it's usually unhelpful to completely brush people off even if you disagree with them.

kamelot, i'm feeling a lot better about you as I read further along in the game. Gamma > MTD > mykonian (that's my order of vote preference) are all solid reads that i can connect with your thoughts right now, and all votes that i'd be down with for now.

VOTE: Gamma

If mtd was his scum buddy this seems like a reasonable bus


And yea this is my first game here and I like this crowd more than my other games by far so go you!

[gigabyteTroubadour]

jordan being town btw means that the entire ssbm_kyouko wagon was town lol

i was going to do a vca but EP's lack of doing anything makes it hard to be useful

[gigabyteTroubadour]

*jordan being scum

lmfao

[mykonian]

Errant why are you townreading me so strongly to begin with

I mean yeah the pushes are shit bc im mislynch bait up the wazoo but scumreading me is kinda normal at this point

ahhh. hmm. i can't exactly reveal one of the bigger reasons. that should make sense (to you)
in addition there are some posts that i'll find time to quote and talk about in the very near future.
also theres a lot of stuff after this question that i find good.
myko, your interaction analysis is not good.

I want to say that josh's D2 play is quite town. mykonian is insane town.

VOTE: Road Kamelot

(I still feel kinda conflicted about this since i did townread her D1 >.< to be fair that was mostly gut)

Pedit(s): Yeeea dont do that. jordan is still the one other person i do want to lynch.

this is fairly awful i think
and jordan is not a good lynch i think
hmm.

im rarely one for readslists these days but if i had to de-nebulize my thoughts right now, they'd go something like

mykonian - "sexy town, both in towniness and general personality"
Transcend, Road Kamelot, Josh - "town. note the absence of sexy. sorry."
nadroj, Gamma - "no major impressions, and overall not very useful slots to me."
kraska - "some mix of the above row and below row"
MTD - "generally poor impression and an ISO needs to be done to collect these thoughts in one place"
gigabyte - "ew"

so the question becomes if this is distancing by EP towards MTD. Jordan is clearly up too high but w/e I am tunneling still. I never got the answer why EP thought the interaction analysis was wrong, and tbf I have had decent results with it in the past, so I think i might know why it hasn't gotten any answers, so there's that. otoh, have to admit, this game hasn't been that great for me reads wise, I had EP on the list towards the end of the day, but not highest, similar with Maria, meaning I'm reading townies as scum quite a bit.

IDK, give it two hours and the chess is over and I can actually read somewhat calmly.

[mykonian]

jordan being town btw means that the entire ssbm_kyouko wagon was town lol

It was townlike anyway, given how rapid and random it formed, I'd be scared of that wagon initially as scum. Would not surprise me either way. Scum would enter far at the end.

[Transcend]

Can we mass claim btw

I'm sure town has more power than a cop and a vig

Anyways giga and Josh can claim last as they're innod

I'm vt, popcorn Jordan

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i should really start voting people for shit readlists more often it seems

kraska being scum was so far removed from the actual game's events that it just couldn't be real :///

you might be wrong about jordan, i'm waffling on him. he's going to get lynched though, we have 2 mislynches still (which are probably being used between mtd, gamma, and jordan) and then lylo.

even if gamma is kind of suspicious i think i'd rather keep a poster with a lot of activity alive for longer at this point because there's more data to go off of during 3-way (or 4-way if josh or me make it alive)

Can we mass claim btw

I'm sure town has more power than a cop and a vig

Anyways giga and Josh can claim last as they're innod

I'm vt, popcorn Jordan

i'm anti massclaim, we probably have a bodyguard and a massclaim doesn't help them when there's an obvious protect

[gigabyteTroubadour]

like if we didn't get a scumvig today i'd be 100% on the massclaim here

plus that's not the RIGHT way to massclaim >:(

[Joshz]

vanilla

it doesnt matter for us because we are lock town so we are already targets.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

:/

[Gamma Emerald]

Can we mass claim btw

I'm sure town has more power than a cop and a vig

Anyways giga and Josh can claim last as they're innod

I'm vt, popcorn Jordan

Probs not

[gigabyteTroubadour]

ftr i was going to claim day 3 innocent child in case transcend was actually the vig yesterday

glad i didn't :^)

vanilla btw, no one else should claim

[Gamma Emerald]

ftr i was going to claim day 3 innocent child in case transcend was actually the vig yesterday

glad i didn't :^)

vanilla btw, no one else should claim

LOL
You read GIFs game then?

[mykonian]

i should really start voting people for shit readlists more often it seems

listen to maria, readslists are shit. (unless people have it as a common thing to them, there are a couple who still do it regularly).

Gamma was town from maria, I'll see how he relates to EP, gonna see how that works without keeping maria in mind.


Massclaim is fine at this point from my point of view. I think that's where I could be of some help before I die.

[Transcend]

Okay well i told the clears to claim last for a fucking reason

Thanks for ignoring that

Just tr me and it's auto

[mykonian]

but yes, we should have had Jordan and MTD claim before other people would, not sure why giga and josh claimed.