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[xRECKONERx]

lmao

[RadiantCowbells]

That's a pretty decent card for aggro tbh.

[Sudo_Nym]

1 health dies to Maelstrom Portal, Whirlwind, Revenge, and Ravaging Ghoul even through stealth.

[Errantparabola]

Looked at all the new cards. Lets see how wrong I am in a few months.

Spoiler: Impressions of someone who knows nothing about anything. Spoilers.

Druid: Power of the Wild for 1 mana seems good in token. Do not think this will be the best Jade Golem class. Celestial Dreamer seems awful. Unsure what things beast buffing 5 drop will curve from-- Savage Combatant? Token ramp seems not good enough-- if you want to ramp hard, generally you're not flooding the board at the same time. Lunar Visions, good in Astral maybe. Druid Legend will come too late to make a lot of impact, but still an include in greedy ramp decks that want a bunch of fatties.

Hunter: It seems like most of the stuff that has a beast tag is good, and most of the stuff that doesn't is not good. Makes sense because beast tag is very relevant already in midrange and possibly more relevant with the new beast hand buffing cards. Rat Pack seems REALLY good-- but is a big ball of stats more versatile than Hounds/Companion/Bow, which can all do work and push immediately? I don't know if this will fit in a list that already runs those cards. My prediction is that Knuckles the Hunter Legend is going to be fantastic. It's a fat body that can also pressure. Hard removal is fine-- one less removal for Savannah "Balanced" Highmane.

Mage: I like the tempo freeze cards. It seems playable but not better than current tempo mage. Polymorph secret and demonfire are playable in control lists that aren't freeze (see: Reno). Mage Legend will work well in that list with Kazakus. Secret Thing from Below and free Secret 1-drop are both not good enough I think. Manic Soulcaster will go the way of Shadowcaster, which it seems to be a worse version of. Fun, Wild shenanigans, but not going to do much. Greater Arcane Missiles is awful.

Paladin: Paladin secret seems great in a vacuum but has anti-synergy with Noble Sac (excuse my Wild-oriented thinking that still faces Secret Paladin all the time). Divine Shield lists seem more aggro-oriented, so Grimestreet Protector would not fit there, and it doesn't seem good enough for current iterations of Control Paladin. I don't care about the hand buff mechanic enough to evaluate them. Legendary seems fantastic in most Paladin lists.

Priest: Jesus Christ, almost every Priest card seems playable.

Rogue: Coin is going to be good in a potential Miracle-based list, but not good enough to bring it back I think. A list built around stealth seems good but not good enough-- maybe give it a few more expansions? Most cards do not seem very good, and Jade is not going to be good in Rogue.

Shaman: White Eyes is a good fit in a Control Shaman list, same with the 3/6 heal 6. Devolve seems fantastic. Re: Lotus Illusionist, 4 mana 3/5 has never been a poor play if the effect is good enough, but I don't think the effect is good enough. I think Jade lists will see the most success in Shaman because of current ability to take the board strongly-- weapon on 2 that summons a Golem is a good followup to Trogg, and Jade Lightning has immediate impact.

Warlock: Hellfire on a body is fantastic. Unlicensed Apothecary is not good enough in a zoo list that wants to take the board every turn. Kabal Trafficker is great. Krul the Unshackled isn't a good Reno effect, but Renolock got great tools this expansion anyway, so that's cool.

Warrior: Eventually there has to come a tipping point when they keep pushing a mechanic enough where it becomes good... maybe this is it, but Warrior has a ton of stuff already that might still make other lists more desirable. There's another bolster in the hand buff card, and something that benefits from buffing (Alley Armorsmith). Something that I would totally experiment with. Brass Knuckles sucks. Warrior Legend is good in an aggro Pirate list (are those still a thing? If they are, it'll be good after this expansion hits).

Neutral/Tri-class: Kazakus is the best and coolest Tri-class legend. Hozen Healer good. Bomb Squad (cool Sylvanas interaction, too). Dopplegangster is a possible include in any dedicated hand-buffing list. Dirty Rat seems really good, Deathlord style. Burgly Bully good. Fight Promoter good maybe. Patches the Pirate is going to be really good in aggro. Auctionmaster Beardo has potential in Control Warrior or a Control (Reno) Priest. Sergeant Sally in Control Warlock, maybe some other buffing list too. Finja is good. Goya seems fun, hard to evaluate. Don't think its better than Barnes.

[RadiantCowbells]

1 health dies to Maelstrom Portal, Whirlwind, Revenge, and Ravaging Ghoul even through stealth.

can still take a deck slot in like zoo though.

[RadiantCowbells]

I think that some sort of stealth rogue variant might get going and be extremely strong. it all depends on how aggro the meta gets.

hunter is going to be awful to face. kazakus mage/lock will probably be pretty strong and the best archetypes of their class. I think some sort of control priest will pick up that most likely doesn't run kazakus. Dragonfire potion reminds me of lightbomb and the 1 cost reminds me of Shrinkmeister, the two cards that together made Priest the god of GvG control. Druid will either be amazing or nonexistent if a decklist can be made that can get to fatigue with an auctioneer and pump out 4 jade golems a turn. Some sort of midrangey paladin will come out that I think will be pretty good. Jade rogue will suck. Shaman will probably be really strong control wise too, and midrange shaman will still be a massive powerhouse. I think that this expansion may be the death of warrior.

[vonflare]

1 health dies to Maelstrom Portal, Whirlwind, Revenge, and Ravaging Ghoul even through stealth.

can still take a deck slot in like zoo though.

Yeah because zoo rogue is definitely a thing

[RadiantCowbells]

Tempo rogue was a thing for a while this season. I wouldn't be surprised if an aggro variant of rogue came out.

[Sudo_Nym]

Just opened my preorder packs; got Wrathion, Auctionmaster Beardo, and golden White Eyes as legendaries.

[Errantparabola]

nice golden legend reck :'(

[MTD]

EU

[xRECKONERx]

i gooooot two Ayas and a golden Warrior legendary and then Beardo

im probably buying 30 more packs when i get home though

[Sudo_Nym]

Pirate Warrior feels dirty.

[Sudo_Nym]

I have enough dust for one more legendary; can't decide between Raza the Chained or Wickerflame Burnbristle

[xRECKONERx]

pirate warrior is disgusting

[Errantparabola]

i was looking at the top posts on the hearthstone reddit and i saw vonflare commenting

[RadiantCowbells]

I'M IN CHARGE NOW ARG;ALRGAH;

[Shadoweh]

Devs: Okay, we've heard all your concerns with Shamans and we hear you. Losing on Turn 6 all the time isn't what Hearthstone is about.
It was supposed to be WAY earlier then that. We've added some broken-ass pirates so you can expect to lose on Turn 4. We hope this answers your questions!

Relatedly I'm enjoying playing the same shaman deck for the next month while it lasts. I've never known a Hearthstone without Trogs and Totem Golems. ((

[Sudo_Nym]

To be fair, while they've released a lot of powerful aggro tools, especially for pirates, they've also released some very good midrange and control cards. Hopefully, once people figure out the optimal balance for the meta, we'll see things settle down. Until then, we're going to see the better aggro decks get fast wins as they feast on suboptimal greedy lists.

[xRECKONERx]

pirate warrior wont even be tier 2 after the meta settles in a couple weeks

[xRECKONERx]

I'm already shitting on it pretty reliably with my janky control priest and tempo rogue decks

[Fate]

Pirate warrior got patches tho

PATCHES




But nah I'm playing new miracle rogue aggro


And

Last night I was on the draw against a paladin

He played some 2/1 + 1/1 thing

I played coin, counterfeit coinx2, backstab 2/1, equip weapon 1/1, Edwin VanCleef 10/10 on Turn 2.

He conceded XD
(the real joke would've been if he had had a Peacekeeper but I took the risk cause come on T2 10/10)

This deck is such bullshit

[Fate]

Fate #1589 need some peeps for dem spectator free pack quests

[pirate mollie]

the new buffs are pretty sweeeeeet

I feel like a rockstar

[pirate mollie]

fate I sent you a friend request. I am jumpy wizard with some random numbers after it