In post 2104, bji wrote:
Yes, that was my point. If you're town, you couldn't know that myself and Saru are not the team, so you allowed a quickhammer possibility.
Obviously, if I knew 100% who the scum was, the game would be over. Well at least from my PoV it would be, but it would still be up to the rest of town to believe me or not. Since that isn't true, NOTHING is a sure thing. Yes, I took a small risk. Ultimately we are going to lynch someone and if we lynch wrong scum wins, that is a much bigger risk. If I am wrong about you, of all people, the game is over regardless - it's just a matter of time. Frankly I'd rather lose now than drag it out if that is the case.
And actually, even if I'm wrong about you, I have to both be wrong about you AND Saru has to be your partner. Really, it's a huge corner case that I am willing to bet the game on, because the game is not going to end until some much more serious risks are taken.
In post 2101, karnos wrote:
Math can still hammer, but Math doesn't
hold
the hammer, meaning, that Math is no longer in full control. You gave away our IC's full control. I do not understand why.
Also, you should still be suspicious of me and Saru but you are not. Didn't the sequence of postings by myself and him look like maybe feeling each other out to see if we're online at the same time? Do you think I actually cared about the answer to my question in post
2094? I did not. I was just trying to post around the same time as Saru to see if you'd get nervous and unvote Lowell. But you did not. I wanted to try to time my postings closer to Saru's but I could only get within 15 minutes or so because people kept interrupting me at work.
Your lack of caution is really bugging me.
He essentially is still in control. You know, votes are not immutable. I can switch to another player if MathBlade asks (unless I think he is making a completely insane call, i.e. lynching me).
For that matter, even if MathBlade voted first (not sure how that would work when he wants to hammer), that doesn't inherently put him in control, town or scum players can still vote outside of his vote if they so choose.
My lack of caution is also trying to move the game forward. Lurking and waiting for someone else to make the first move would be easy, but it doesn't really help sort. I'm voting my strongest scum read, aware of the (minuscule, IMO) risk that I could be allowing the real scum team to quick-hammer if I am totally wrong.
Alternative being what, we just wait until MathBlade makes a call? It sounds like it's just going to be a coin flip between who he thinks is likely scum, unless he gets some more information to make reads from. I am providing that.
