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Post Post #8 (isolation #0) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:21 pm

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First look:
Scum sided as hell.
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Post Post #10 (isolation #1) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:23 pm

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I would suggest getting rid of the neighborizing enabler and giving town some strong protective.
Just as Doctor or Jailkeep.
Town is going to eat alot of dirt from this and 3 shot Gunsmith just isn't going to do much.
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Post Post #11 (isolation #2) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:25 pm

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Does traitor get converted if scum kill them?
That needs to be laid out.
Also if they are informed of teammates vice versa.
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Post Post #12 (isolation #3) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:26 pm

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In post 11, Firebringer wrote:Does traitor get converted if scum kill them?
That needs to be laid out.
Also if they are informed of teammates vice versa.
I totally spaced on normal guidelines for Traitor.
Okay ignore this.
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Post Post #14 (isolation #4) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:29 pm

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Yeah, town is really weak.
Theres only two possible players the Gunsmith can guilty out of (the SK and Encryptor).
Town have no protection and in fact some of their roles like ascetic enabler hurt town.
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Post Post #16 (isolation #5) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:32 pm

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In post 15, borkjerfkin wrote:I think gunsmith's typically do not return guilties on SK (because thematically they use a knife or some shit)
ohh right, looked at gunsmith role again. That would be a inno on SK as well.
So Gunsmith has 1/13 chance of finding scum.

But the SK role here works odd.
Is that normal at all? Reverser?
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Post Post #19 (isolation #6) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:37 pm

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In post 0, Nexus wrote:Greetings ______, You are a Bulletproof Serial Killer Enabler Disabler
Your power is in your vote, and your may post during the day.
In addition, you are 3-Bulletproof, which means 3 attempts to nightkill you will fail. As well as that, you are an Enabler Disabler, while you are alive, all Enablers are Reversed, meaning that Enablers will Disable their attached roles and Enable them when they die. Also, you are a Serial Killer, which means each night, you may send me a target to attempt to kill. You are not a Normal role, and you will flip with this Role PM.
You are aligned with yourself and win when all other players are dead, even when you yourself are not.
Theres problems with this role.
first off its going to create alot of issues during the game when attempts to neighborize fail every time.
Its going to frustrate players if mafia ascetic gets guiltied when he belives he shouldn't have, etc.

I think this is technically allowable, but I don't think I could ever approve this in a normal game.
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Post Post #20 (isolation #7) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:38 pm

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Not to mention you give scum day talk with encryption and that role disables it leaving the scum going "What the fuck is going on?"
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Post Post #28 (isolation #8) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:10 pm

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In post 26, XnadrojX wrote:When both serial killer and traitor is alive serial killer wins
If traitor is last mafia alive he is auto endgamed.
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Post Post #29 (isolation #9) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:16 pm

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In post 24, XnadrojX wrote:Mafia Encryption
Mafia Ascetic
Traitor Encryption Enabler

Ascetic Enabler
3-shot Cop
Neighbouriser
Neighbouriser Enabler
Jailkeeper
VT x4

1-shot BP SK
This looks alot better.
I don't know about giving the cop 3 shots though.
2 seems alright.

Everything else seems fine.
I kind of agree theirs a bit too much enablers but I don't think they particularity hurt the game although roles become easier to sort out based on enabler flips.

I think this setup works fine as this
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Post Post #30 (isolation #10) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:19 pm

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In post 27, XnadrojX wrote:And the neighbouriser enabler was something put there to prevent the neighbouriser from essentially neighbouriser half the game so can I make it like a 2/3 shot neighbouriser instead?
This isn't a huge concern most games a full neighborizer gets at most 2 people in their neighborhood.
Average is probably around ~2.4 or something.
With about 4 neighbors or more being exceedingly rare.

Its also not very powerful role, but it can add talk to the game.
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Post Post #35 (isolation #11) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:02 am

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In post 32, XnadrojX wrote:Mafia Encrypter
Mafia Ascetic
Traitor Encryption Enabler

Ascetic Enabler
2-shot Cop
3-Shot Neighbouriser
Jailkeeper
VT x5

1-shot BP SK
This looks fine if the game didn't have SK...
Unsure of it with SK to be honest.

Anyone have any more thoughts?
Radja? Bork?
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Post Post #37 (isolation #12) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:02 pm

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Bump I am not the only reviewer here.
Bork think this is fine as is?
Radja?
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Post Post #41 (isolation #13) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:39 pm

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ehhhhhhhhh.............
I would kind of like it announced the alignment numbers. Though that isn't really normally required.
I just know as a player, I don't like going into a game where suddenly theres an SK.
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Post Post #43 (isolation #14) » Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:46 am

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If I am the only one who has issue I won't be the one to hold this game off from entering sign ups.
I approve
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown

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