Micro 669 - Procrastination Mafia - At The End...(GAME OVER)

[Dunnstral]

Alright listen up everybody, I'm

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VOTE: Gamma

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VOTE: ZackStralkita

It's probably zac

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it was a dumb/bad hydra joke

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Good thing I posted in the middle there to stop drealmerz reign of post terror

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My vote on Zach isn't rvs

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I've already said too much

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I'm not answering that so just vote me now

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The part where you're acting like I can't be scumreading Zach for that post

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VOTE: Infinite Justice

[Dunnstral]

Good job

[Dunnstral]

My vote is serious

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Gonna lurk this harder than Zach

Rest of you guys lynch Infinite justice, they're probably scum and deserve to be wagonned anyway just for being a hydra of infinity and titus

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Holy

Moly

VOTE: Zachstralkita

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: secret agent jin

Ok guys if I die kill zach

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I just committed some class A scumhunting so tyvm

Sheep me

Zach doesn't talk like this

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VOTE: Zachstralkita
Too off to be town imo

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lol

Zach's done that as scum before

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p8466765

[Dunnstral]

I'm rping

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Gonna lurk this harder than Zach

Rest of you guys lynch Infinite justice, they're probably scum and deserve to be wagonned anyway just for being a hydra of infinity and titus

VOTE: Dunn

You just tripped my favorite scumtell of all time.

unvote me

[Dunnstral]

Yup, we should do this.

~Titus

I am back...Silly me ignored this bc hammer.

This being Dunn of what?

Also, Hi Titus!
Sorry about the fake hammer!

huh

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The fact he doesn't bother to ask about the tell worries me

Couldn't care less about tells

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Tells don't make you a better player.

I linked to where zach has done the same thing as scum so we can go ahead and lynch him. Or we can just get gamma now

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VOTE: Gamma Emerald

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lol

Zach's done that as scum before

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p8466765

SOmeone take a look at this

[Dunnstral]

4 wheels and a canvas

horses are extra

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My case: Zach's claimed vt when he was "hammered" as scum before and everyone unvoted him and ignored that

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and making it look scummier than it is

I don't remember saying anything to that effect

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you clearly have something on zach, so you think

please share it, I can't read your mind/see your view without you giving more

I just did scoundrel

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^What are you even talking about...

Citation needed?

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let's get him VOTE: Zachstralkita

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VOTE: Zachstralkita

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That should be both of them

[Dunnstral]

Every time someone has hard tunneled me I've townread them, and I've never been wrong

-Inf

false

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What do you think of Drealmer?

loopy like the hydra

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VOTE: Gamma Emerald
VOTE: Gamma Emerald

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I'd rather lynch BNL than SAJ

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I don't see why you put so much important on where my vote is. To be honest, my vote could be on BnL, on you, my top townread, or on no one, and it wouldn't make too much of a difference to me. So I kept my vote because the best purpose for it right now is to let titus to whatever she was gonna do with it. Titus did then tell me by pm that I could move my vote, but I don't see a reason to because I don't have a place for it. It seems to me that you put a lot of importance on where people's votes are at any given time, but I don't in the early game and that's basically what this is.

I also don't see where I contradicted myself

-Inf

For real?

You've been at L-1 already,but you don't think the placement of your vote is important?

This shit can't be right.

Nice fakehammer btw

Thanks! It was some of my finest work!
Did you know it was a fakehammer when you claimed, or was that only noticed when you scrolled up?

I didn't realize I had been "lynched" when I posted initially

In that case, you get a townread for the reaction.

[unvte][/unvote]

Someone sell me on a wagon please

These posts are scum.
VOTE: Aristophanes

Why is no one voting here?

Because he's an easy vote for scum to make

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Why cant our compromise be BnL

BnL is acting pretty town and doesn't have much support

-Inf

VOTE: BulletNLynchproof

[Dunnstral]

yeah there's not enough time left

screw you dunnstral

VOTE: BnL

-Inf

huh?

[Dunnstral]

I hope you're not insinuating a lack of time is somehow my fault

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UNVOTE: bulletNlynchproof

catching up, I saw his claim

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I don't like how Dunnstral chose to respond to 528 instead of the later posts

I hadn't read the later posts. Or the previous ones

[Dunnstral]

My reason for townreading BnL is strong gut, let's say. Pretending to solve a game is not hard, ok, but he's doing it in a way that seems ineffective as scum and it's hard for me to see the scum motivation in his play. The things you call out to be fakesounding to me generally look like town awkwardness.

Stop being so cocky and accept that we disagree. Mafia is hard, people have different opinions, we accept that and continue playing.

-Inf

How is the way he's going about this game ineffective as scum?

culted, do you actually think you have passion that's showing through in your posts this game?

-Inf

What did you hope to gain by asking this question?

[Dunnstral]

Why cant our compromise be BnL

BnL is acting pretty town and doesn't have much support

-Inf

VOTE: BulletNLynchproof

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Dunn are you scum?

I can't answer that

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VOTE: Infinite Justice

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gamma feels like he's maaking up reasons to scumread me

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I believe BNL's claim. We should decide who he is going to shoot

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I'd rather lynch IJ

Why don't you explain where my push on zach is and how it's scummy

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he's probably dead regardless then

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So yea don't say who you're shooting

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People were townreading him off of something he's done as scum before. What was I supposed to do, sit back and say nothing?

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Narrative slip.

Yeah I wouldn't do that as scum though, and it's pretty apparent if you're played with me before

I had thoughts I hadn't written down. I admittedly haven't done much this game yet

Scummy people now:
IJ
Gamma
SAJ


Ari is usually lynchbait so I don't know
Zach is generally useless so i don't know

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Don't think I've been "voting saj all game" either

Maybe even move him into "i don't know" territory

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Actually, I've only voted him once. For all of 25 posts; I don't think there's much to talk about. He could be scum.... or not. I'm not sure because he's a bit weird in general, kind of like ari

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Kinda don't like how bullet just up and vanished either. :/

Throwing shade on the technical IC I see.

lol

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I'd prefer to vote IJ.

I have a theory that the more lopsided a hydra's posts are (in terms of how much someone posts), the more likely they're scum

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Dunn, you think IJ is bussing Gamma?

I hadn't considered anything about that. I suppose between the two IJ is more likely than gamma.

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Gamma is always awkward.

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I have a guilty on infinite justice. It was delayed until just now

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Gamma is always awkward.

Yea, but why did he have nothing to say about me pushing bnl's claim as a fakeclaim if he took it that he was confirmed town?

Why isn't he paranoid about the claim at all?

Why don't you ask him

Gamma is always awkward

[Dunnstral]

Zach are you seeing this?

[Dunnstral]

Btw Gamma's claim is kind of weak

[Dunnstral]

I have a guilty on infinite justice. It was delayed until just now

Are you a daycop?

Let's find out

[Dunnstral]

You should vote IJ.

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Actually if dunn isn't daycop then there isn't an issue of power. But I still don't really believe gamma's claim

-Inf

Why are you acting like my claim could be real?

[Dunnstral]

I still think Dunn and IJ are both town, Dunn is probably just misinterpreting his result

L O L

This post is extremely scummy

[Dunnstral]

What townie comes to the conclusion that someones "misinterpreting their result"

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Btw I'm not a daycop but let's pull back on the gamma lynch for now?

[Dunnstral]

I'll see where the chips fall first. Not my first pick for a vote.

Get off of me.

[Dunnstral]

Btw I'm not a daycop but let's pull back on the gamma lynch for now?

@BNL

[Dunnstral]

I'll see where the chips fall first. Not my first pick for a vote.

Get off of me.

Vote SAJ.

Why are you voting me over SAJ?

[Dunnstral]

And what scum says that?

In a vacuum that post looks like he knows we're both town and is saying somethign dumb

I find it hard to wrap my head around a role that can get a guilty (or even an inno) before D1 ends. I think such a fakeclaim is unlikely, but I don't think IJ is scum either. Dunn, please fullclaim the part of your role that give you the gulity on IJ

Please read the thread as I am responding

[Dunnstral]

Dunn, do you have ~reasons~ for thinking gamma is town?

Not special ones. Other than thinking other people are more likely

I don't want to rush into a lynch.

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I don't have a result.

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Dunn is reaction testing or something. Gamma should claim full powers so we know whether to believe him, but it's already looking like quite a bit of power.

-Inf

Actually if dunn isn't daycop then there isn't an issue of power. But I still don't really believe gamma's claim

-Inf

Why are you considering I could be telling the truth, here?

Now would be a good time to claim miller.

[Dunnstral]

We're leaving him alive because there are worse people than him.

Zach isn't playing like he's town.

VOTE: Zachstralkita

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IJ is so scummy. Zach is so scummy. If we don't lynch one of them today we're going to have problems.

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No, I'll nonchalantly start pushing you for bad bussing if that happens

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No, I know you're scum here. Your play is way off. After seeing you in a few games I can conclude that this is how you are as scum. (as opposed to all the time or as town)

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I don't think Scum Saj makes such a blatant/bad switch onto Zach like that.

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Zach is now confirmed scum

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Good points ^

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Good

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He's not here to save you.

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My pick-me-up is when I put-you-down

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Dunn is reaction testing or something. Gamma should claim full powers so we know whether to believe him, but it's already looking like quite a bit of power.

-Inf

Actually if dunn isn't daycop then there isn't an issue of power. But I still don't really believe gamma's claim

-Inf

These read kinda wonky back-to-back.

Just me?

I definitely commented on that as well.

[Dunnstral]

I'm not FoSing Dunnstral. I think he's scum. He hasn't solved shit much less came up with an actual case on me but you people are going to let him coast to endgame and wonder why you lost.

I hear you, but he could easily be town doing nothing. That's what's so annoying about dunn.

I do think culted's criticism of you for having nebulous scumreads was legitimate, can you address that better?

-Inf

I'm not doing nothing.

[Dunnstral]

-I ran up BNL
-I ran up Gamma
-I ran up Zach

[Dunnstral]

let's lynch IJ tomorrow

[Dunnstral]

Dunn, I know you don't like to be criticized,

Alright. Don't do it when it's unwarranted.

[Dunnstral]

Gonna go ahead and say this is Dunn's scum bluff so


Dunn/Gamma

Dunn/BnL

Dunn/x

LOL

[Dunnstral]

Explain what you mean by my "scum bluff"?

[Dunnstral]

That doesn't actually explain anything

Also, I'm being underestimated (?)

[Dunnstral]

I'd prefer to vote IJ.

I have a theory that the more lopsided a hydra's posts are (in terms of how much someone posts), the more likely they're scum

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Step 1) Lynch Zach

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VOTE: Infinite justice

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Yeah we're not doing that

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Gamma I'll make you a deal, you follow my vote onto IJ and I'll let you follow my vote tomorrow as well

[Dunnstral]

That's not a question you want to ask

[Dunnstral]

What prompted this SUDDEN vote change

You gonna vote IJ?

[Dunnstral]

You can press it multiple times

[Dunnstral]

This is why brits are so...

[Dunnstral]

It's actually part of the flavor - he went to bed and in 8 hours he'll post a vc

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I don't want to lynch ari.

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And he shouldn't need to claim

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110% serious. Ari is an easy mislynch as town. Let's not make this mistake when we've got 3-4 other l-1 wagons

[Dunnstral]

Right, it's because everyone's following my vote.

Let's actually get the lynch this time lads. IJ.

[Dunnstral]

You guys are fucking insane

bnl why unvote me so easy when you're sure I'm scum HUH?


VOTE: culted


This is my main concern

culted is town

[Dunnstral]

Ari already claimed 1-shot commuter

Where?

[Dunnstral]

Claims

drealmerz7 -
Zachstralkita - VT
Gamma Emerald - JOAT: 1-shot Neighbourizer, 1-shot Rolecop, 1-shot Doctor
Secret Agent Jin -
Dunnstral -
BulletNLynchproof - Delayed 1-shot Dayvig
culted -
Infinite Justice (Titus + Infinity 324) - Delayed Tracker
Aristophanes - 1-shot Commuter

ah, this

I have trouble believing gamma's role now.

[Dunnstral]

though I doubt ari's claim too and the potential to avoid the dayvig is there as a scum role

[Dunnstral]

actually id like to lynch inside GE/BNL

i feel like that would clear up some things

VOTE: aristophanes

[Dunnstral]

Nah I was gonna hammer ari anyway

That claim looks like it can avoid the delayed vig and doesn't help town anyway if it's true

[Dunnstral]

I'm not getting lynched hehe

[Dunnstral]

Wouldn't be upset if zach didn't wake up

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Dunn was on all the L-1 wagons except the Gamma one (yes he voted Gamma but not when he was at L-1)

Yeah, at the start of them.

[Dunnstral]

Read on. I explain it

[Dunnstral]

zach is suspicious for making me hammer like that?

[Dunnstral]

Nah I was gonna hammer ari anyway

That claim looks like it can avoid the delayed vig and doesn't help town anyway if it's true

Why not explain this earlier

comedic value

[Dunnstral]

Can't believe I let myself get misled by zach like this :/ wp

[Dunnstral]

Wait does drealmerz actually believe what he's saying

[Dunnstral]

Zach's already not really processing the game

[Dunnstral]

no

[Dunnstral]

Lol. I didn't get a start pm, nice flavor.

I'll pend saying anything else until it comes. I have my suspicions

[Dunnstral]

^scummy... haven't even received any pms yet and he's implying he has a guilty or something

[Dunnstral]

Now I'm not so sure what to think. Could be he fakeclaimed that thinking he could pass a delayed scumkill off as a dayvig or something weird.

Who? Are you talking about SAJ?

[Dunnstral]

Well, we'll see how many kills there are on day 3.

[Dunnstral]

Hmm, seems like days started then? lack of night kill is interesting.

[Dunnstral]

Why did you choose dreal?

[Dunnstral]

Yeah I believe it. The cocky types always make the nightkills

VOTE: Drealmerz

Just more proof that I'm town

[Dunnstral]

IJ what was your claim? Thought you were a tracker? Or am I mistaken

[Dunnstral]

nah I'm not claiming

[Dunnstral]

What does this mean?

Was expecting a kill to happen, or some other notification, but there wasn't one

[Dunnstral]

No Zach, you need to explain why you're voting SAJ over drealmerz

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE:

[Dunnstral]

Dumbstral, unless you think I'm scumbuddies with dreal, he is confirmed not roleblocked

-Inf

Or, it's the ability of a scum member that isn't dreal. Doesn't quite fit town's flavor

[Dunnstral]

Skeptical of Zach's claim.

I wonder who Gamma investigated.

[Dunnstral]

Dunn, did you enjoy the cookies?

[Dunnstral]

Naw I'm Town Lazy Doctor.


And I targeted drealmerz last night.


Going off of all the claims we have along with mine, Town looks stacked already. You're most likely a scum RB.


Lynch dat.

How does your role work?

Without being motivated

[Dunnstral]

Also that hammer was bad

Zach pretty sketch

[Dunnstral]

Zach and SAJ explain how your abilities work. How are they delayed?

[Dunnstral]

Does Titus know she's in a hydra?

[Dunnstral]

So we're assuming zach stopped a kill on drealmerz?

[Dunnstral]

the way the claims are coming together makes me suspect culted

Need Gamma's info

[Dunnstral]

How's your bulletproof thing work? Why'd you say doc?

[Dunnstral]

To me it looks like you changed your claim after zach claimed doc

[Dunnstral]

Role flavor names don't necessarily explain what someone does in this game

[Dunnstral]

Source: myself

[Dunnstral]

If it says he's non-consecutive, that very well could not show up in his role name.

[Dunnstral]

He's not claiming a guilty. He's saying he's not non-consecutive

[Dunnstral]

I voted him because he is vague and is slowly letting information out like he is making it up as he goes. That reeks of scum to me.

So is he making it up, or are you really not non-consecutive?

[Dunnstral]

Role flavor names don't necessarily explain what someone does in this game

[Dunnstral]

So why do you think Gamma is scum?

[Dunnstral]

Let's take a look at culted.

[Dunnstral]

Alright he's not scummy at all and I'm more inclined to believe one of the already claimed people are scum actually

[Dunnstral]

There seems to be some overlap - IJ could tell that gamma performed an investigative action, and Gamma had the investigative action so they're both kind of the same thing

If anything I'm considering if gamma could be a scum joat

[Dunnstral]

"Zach is talking to me like he knows I'm town"

[Dunnstral]

zach also doesn't seem quite right

Huh? roleblocker was on you so what do you think stopped the scum kill?

[Dunnstral]

or do you think it was a no kill gambit

[Dunnstral]

Also every town role we've seen is Delayed but his is non consecutive.

You make a very good point.

In fact I'd have to say he's probably scum....

VOTE: Secret Agent Jin

[Dunnstral]

Zach, answer me: What part of your role fits the flavor? How are you delayed? I've asked you this.

[Dunnstral]

Also every town role we've seen is Delayed but his is non consecutive.

implying you're delayed here.

How does that work?

[Dunnstral]

But there was a chance he was town and lying

[Dunnstral]

Zach, answer me: What part of your role fits the flavor? How are you delayed? I've asked you this.

Gonna ask this until you answer.

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE:

BNL needs to claim his target. We have the roleblocker outted and we have a doctor claim and gamma can give a vest.

Though I guess strongman exists

[Dunnstral]

Maybe he doesn't need to claim his target. Nobody died today so I'm happy waiting for tomorrow. Nvm.

[Dunnstral]

@gamma same question

[Dunnstral]

I don't need a vest

[Dunnstral]

Gamma, is your vest delayed or something? How come your role is similar to SAJ's?

[Dunnstral]

YOU can die

too lazy for that

And towny

[Dunnstral]

Like me

[Dunnstral]

Scum could have strongman

[Dunnstral]

Actually knowing I'll get protected I don't see any reason why I should keep quiet about who I shot. Does anyone have a reason otherwise, or should I just claim?

Considering you voted me I'll assume it wasn't me, though.

[Dunnstral]

Yeah doc's gonna be on me

[Dunnstral]

So drealmerz7 is pretty much conftown due to claim, and as much Zach fakeclaimed he is also almost certainly town unless the kill could be stopped in another manner. Culted is obvtown, IJ also feels town.

While I think Gamma and SAJ are both scummy, they aren't likely to be a team. Hence scum #2 is Dunnstral.

VOTE: Dunnstral

I'm not though

[Dunnstral]

I don't see why it matters if you say who you shot, btw. Unless we're about to lynch them

[Dunnstral]

he can put it in a spoiler and none of us open it

[Dunnstral]

that was a joke

[Dunnstral]

I'd open it btw

[Dunnstral]

doc on me

[Dunnstral]

because it was actually written by titus

[Dunnstral]

Dunnstral, who is your preferred lynch choice for the day?

-Inf

Thinking on it.

[Dunnstral]

Nah I don't even need the doc tbh................. even if I were to sheep

[Dunnstral]

Still kind of jaded that you made me kill town ari

[Dunnstral]

This mofo clicked my iso and concluded I was town in less than 30 seconds.

Yea

[Dunnstral]

I saw some posts then remembered some more posts and realized I townread you

[Dunnstral]

The only thing town about BNL is his claim. Is that a reasonable scum role?

[Dunnstral]

Prob town roles: Zach, drealmerz, BNL (?)

Think culted is town, too... less inclined to lynch saj as well

let's lynch gamma and Ij.... I guess. Gamma could easily have a scum joat role.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Let's get him

[Dunnstral]

I don't think I've ever seen you have good reads. sorry.

[Dunnstral]

Just hoping you're not faking the doc claim this time

[Dunnstral]

I saw some posts then remembered some more posts and realized I townread you

[Dunnstral]

If I'm town, who do you think is scum?

Hint: If I'm faking a read on you I don't spend 30 seconds between posts. I'm not that bad

[Dunnstral]

Be honest, you're only voting me due to poe from the claimed roles

[Dunnstral]

Yeah I don't want to claim today so get off me?

Trying to decide if culted really is genuine or if he's going for the easy push

[Dunnstral]

I really don't understand wwhy you think it's me, or why my iso only contains "shade throwing"

Or why you became so aggressive

[Dunnstral]

I don't have a reason to be aggressive

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE: