Day 6 - Pages 130 to 133 (current)@Prism3229 - I'm just curious what you mean by "power play" here. Can you elaborate a bit?
3257 - Here's something you are missing. Your job isn't simply to lynch Boring. It's to figure out her alignment. If you are town, you first need to interact with her, engage her, and develop your read. You said yourself that you like interacting with people to get reads so just saying that you weren't talking to Boring because people won't be convinced by that misses the point that figuring out Boring's alignment is something you should have been doing if you had suspicions that she was scum (she seemed to be in your null-scum area for most of the early game).
3258 - I don't understand how you buy this so easily. This isn't a particularly strong argument in context. People change their scumplay based on how a game unfolds.
@nn303237 - I have no idea where Boring would put her buddies but I know it's not right at the top of her list. I'll also say I found it somewhat weird that she said Slandaar's replace out was scummy. It felt like inside info.
3241 - I didn't find anything significant about
1678 and
1679. The fact that he's responding to Boring in the way he did gives us a baseline for how he interacts with his partners. His response to Prism seems similar but I don't find it alignment-indicative.
3242 - I think Boring was taking advantage of the cc situation. This is actually one of the things I wanted to bring up as for why my slot is town. If it was pre-determined by the scumteam that Shadow would counterclaim, wouldn't Boring have put Eager somewhere null to scum? Having Eager and Shadow both as top townreads and then having Shadow counterclaim Eager means Boring has to do a pretty big re-evaluation of her reads which shows it wasn't pre-planned. The scumteam was legit taken by surprise at this counterclaim. Then they all jumped at the opportunity. Boring on Eager and LUV on Shadow. It became apparent that they couldn't get the back to back lynches though so they seemed to have dropped the idea but I remember Boring pushing my predecessor as late as D4 so maybe not.
3254 - This doesn't really sit right with me. Like I said, just because you decided in that scumgame, in that circumstance that bussing was a bad idea doesn't mean that you wouldn't do it in a completely different circumstance.
3264 - I (and I assume most people who have played mafia for a while) tend to use similar kinds of rhetoric and similar case-making regardless of alignment. But it doesn't happen in the same way at the same time. Saying "you are kidding, right?" is more of a personality quirk. Looking over interactions is something I do as town all the time. It comes naturally to me as scum because I try to replicate my townplay the best I can.
3267 - Implosion's post honestly didn't convince me one way or another. When I was convinced you were scum, it didn't sway me. Now when I've come around to thinking it's Prism, I guess Implosion was probably right.
3273 - You are correct that it's totally different behavior. A few things account for this: There, I was replacing into a conf-town slot in LYLO, I had not followed that game, and was coming in with barely any information. So, I started talking to both of my lylo companions, asking them questions, and finally did a read of the game and cast my vote. Here, I was following the game since D1. I cheered when the Boring wagon cropped up. I gaped at my screen horrified when EagerSnake was getting lynched. I got annoyed when people started thinking one of the two had to be scum and Implosion and MariaR were the only ones making sense. I was surprised Boring survived as long as she did despite being scummy D1. So, when I replaced in, my reaction was noticeably different than in my other game. I wanted Boring dead as she lived way longer than she should have so started pushing the hell out of her.
3284 - I noticed it independently, later realized you said the same thing regarding it being a co-ordinated bus.
3286 - That's basically where I'm at. I know I'm town so I know one of you were wrong about the other and it was easier to see Prism as the experienced player pocketing to newer player than that he's been completely and utterly oblivious to you being scum. Obviously, this is a biased reading with knowledge that I'm town.
3295 - Like I said, just because you didn't bus once doesn't mean you won't bus in a different game even if it's at the same time. This is not a strong argument and even if you are town, I'm not making my decision based off of that.
3296 - You made a case on Boring. You hopped onto a town led wagon in fifth place. Both of these are objective facts, not "ideas" that I have.
3300 - It's true that there could be scum motivation behind posting a weak read on Dierfire and letting town lynch him without my assistance. But put yourself in my shoes: I'm town. I had a weak read on Dierfire. I thought it was most likely you but wondered if I was wrong and everyone else was right. I didn't want to take a chance at derailing a scum lynch and game end. I wasn't hard-townreading Dierfire so with a read like that, it'd be impossible to convince everyone that they were wrong.
I think that's it until Prism returned. Going to tackle these directly.