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Post Post #1193 (isolation #200) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 11:49 am

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Don't forget to do your VC and Wagon analysis

Spoiler: D1 Wagons
wagon1:
Lil Uzi Vert (3): Shadow_step, implosion, PenguinPower

wagon2:
Zoronos (4): DierFire, MariaR, boring, Gamma Emerald

wagon3:
PenguinPower (5): Grendel, Shadow_step, boring, Dierfire, nn30

wagon4:
Gamma Emerald (3): implosion, PenguinPower, MariaR

wagon5:
PenguinPower (5): Grendel, Shadow_step, boring, Dierfire, Gamma Emerald

wagon6:
Gamma Emerald (3): implosion, PenguinPower, nn30

wagon7:
boring (3): eagerSnake, MariaR, implosion

wagon8:
eagerSnake (4): Shadow_step, boring, PenguinPower, Gamma Emerald

wagon9:
Shadow_step (3): nn30, Lil Uzi Vert, Gamma Emerald

wagon10:
eagerSnake(4): Shadow_step, boring, PenguinPower, Prism

wagon11:
eagerSnake (5): Shadow_step, boring, PenguinPower, Grendel, Gamma Emerald
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Post Post #1197 (isolation #201) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:48 pm

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Yay my first time being MLed as town
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Post Post #1199 (isolation #202) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:55 pm

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I mean, if I was scum and I was lynched, I would definitely feel like it was a ML
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Post Post #1201 (isolation #203) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:05 pm

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Despite the fact I'm town I think it might be fine
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Post Post #1205 (isolation #204) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:11 pm

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You claiming intent?
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Post Post #1212 (isolation #205) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:27 pm

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VOTE: implosion
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Post Post #1213 (isolation #206) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:29 pm

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Do you still want votes on implosion now that I'm voting him?
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Post Post #1217 (isolation #207) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:33 pm

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I'm not flailing?...
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Post Post #1229 (isolation #208) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:47 pm

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In post 1225, Gamma Emerald wrote:"Don't waste your night actions on me" sounds like scared scum.
R u serious with this?

An ascetic advising people not to waste their actions is now scared scum.... ok....
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Post Post #1230 (isolation #209) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:48 pm

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Like wtf kinda twisted argument is that?
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Post Post #1235 (isolation #210) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:59 pm

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Don't forget to do your VC and Wagon analysis, now with colors.

Spoiler: D1 Wagons assuming shadow_step is town
wagon1:
Lil Uzi Vert (3):
Shadow_step
, implosion, PenguinPower

wagon2:
Zoronos (4): DierFire, MariaR, boring, Gamma Emerald

wagon3:
PenguinPower (5): Grendel,
Shadow_step
, boring, Dierfire, nn30

wagon4:
Gamma Emerald (3): implosion, PenguinPower, MariaR

wagon5:
PenguinPower (5): Grendel,
Shadow_step
, boring, Dierfire, Gamma Emerald

wagon6:
Gamma Emerald (3): implosion, PenguinPower, nn30

wagon7:
boring (3):
eagerSnake
, MariaR, implosion

wagon8:
eagerSnake
(4):
Shadow_step
, boring, PenguinPower, Gamma Emerald

wagon9:
Shadow_step
(3): nn30, Lil Uzi Vert, Gamma Emerald

wagon10:
eagerSnake
(4):
Shadow_step
, boring, PenguinPower, Prism

wagon11:
eagerSnake
(5):
Shadow_step
, boring, PenguinPower, Grendel, Gamma Emerald


Based on this, there are 2 that look most likely to be a scum. [PenguinPower and boring]

Let's take a look if boring is scum...

Spoiler: D1 Wagons assuming s_s&pp town and boring scum
wagon1:
Lil Uzi Vert (3):
Shadow_step
, implosion,
PenguinPower


wagon2:
Zoronos (4): DierFire, MariaR,
boring
, Gamma Emerald

wagon3:
PenguinPower
(5): Grendel,
Shadow_step
,
boring
, Dierfire, nn30

wagon4:
Gamma Emerald (3): implosion,
PenguinPower
, MariaR

wagon5:
PenguinPower
(5): Grendel,
Shadow_step
,
boring
, Dierfire, Gamma Emerald

wagon6:
Gamma Emerald (3): implosion,
PenguinPower
, nn30

wagon7:
boring
(3):
eagerSnake
, MariaR, implosion

wagon8:
eagerSnake
(4):
Shadow_step
,
boring
,
PenguinPower
, Gamma Emerald

wagon9:
Shadow_step
(3): nn30, Lil Uzi Vert, Gamma Emerald

wagon10:
eagerSnake
(4):
Shadow_step
,
boring
,
PenguinPower
, Prism

wagon11:
eagerSnake
(5):
Shadow_step
,
boring
,
PenguinPower
, Grendel, Gamma Emerald


Spoiler: D1 Wagons assuming s_s&boring town and PP scum
wagon1:
Lil Uzi Vert (3):
Shadow_step
, implosion,
PenguinPower


wagon2:
Zoronos (4): DierFire, MariaR,
boring
, Gamma Emerald

wagon3:
PenguinPower
(5): Grendel,
Shadow_step
,
boring
, Dierfire, nn30

wagon4:
Gamma Emerald (3): implosion,
PenguinPower
, MariaR

wagon5:
PenguinPower
(5): Grendel,
Shadow_step
,
boring
, Dierfire, Gamma Emerald

wagon6:
Gamma Emerald (3): implosion,
PenguinPower
, nn30

wagon7:
boring
(3):
eagerSnake
, MariaR, implosion

wagon8:
eagerSnake
(4):
Shadow_step
,
boring
,
PenguinPower
, Gamma Emerald

wagon9:
Shadow_step
(3): nn30, Lil Uzi Vert, Gamma Emerald

wagon10:
eagerSnake
(4):
Shadow_step
,
boring
,
PenguinPower
, Prism

wagon11:
eagerSnake
(5):
Shadow_step
,
boring
,
PenguinPower
, Grendel, Gamma Emerald


What do you guys think makes more sense?
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Post Post #1241 (isolation #211) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 2:05 pm

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In post 1239, nn30 wrote:Scared scum? He had no pressure before making that claim. Scum have no reason to be afraid of a night action if there's no suspicion on them.
Right. He's trying to say I was scared of being targeted... before the game even started.
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Post Post #1255 (isolation #212) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 2:26 pm

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@Prism this is for you

Spoiler: D1 Wagons assuming s_s&pp town and boring&implosion scum
wagon1:
Lil Uzi Vert (3):
Shadow_step
,
implosion
,
PenguinPower


wagon2:
Zoronos (4): DierFire, MariaR,
boring
, Gamma Emerald

wagon3:
PenguinPower
(5): Grendel,
Shadow_step
,
boring
, Dierfire, nn30

wagon4:
Gamma Emerald (3):
implosion
,
PenguinPower
, MariaR

wagon5:
PenguinPower
(5): Grendel,
Shadow_step
,
boring
, Dierfire, Gamma Emerald

wagon6:
Gamma Emerald (3):
implosion
,
PenguinPower
, nn30

wagon7:
boring
(3):
eagerSnake
, MariaR,
implosion


wagon8:
eagerSnake
(4):
Shadow_step
,
boring
,
PenguinPower
, Gamma Emerald

wagon9:
Shadow_step
(3): nn30, Lil Uzi Vert, Gamma Emerald

wagon10:
eagerSnake
(4):
Shadow_step
,
boring
,
PenguinPower
, Prism

wagon11:
eagerSnake
(5):
Shadow_step
,
boring
,
PenguinPower
, Grendel, Gamma Emerald

wagon12:
boring
(5):
eagerSnake
, MariaR,
implosion
, Gamma Emerald, nn30


The only part that doesn't lean towards this as a possibility is wagon7 and wagon9, where in theory would be implosion hard-bussing boring D1.
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Post Post #1256 (isolation #213) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 2:27 pm

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7 and 12*
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Post Post #1264 (isolation #214) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 2:40 pm

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Gamma why not boring?
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Post Post #1279 (isolation #215) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:01 pm

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Isn't it an odd behavior to vote the person your top scumread is voting?
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Post Post #1281 (isolation #216) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:04 pm

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You were ready to lynch me, and I was ready to lynch boring, now you are ready to lynch boring.

Also Prism was ready to lynch me, and I voted implosion, and then Prism voted implosion as well.

Isn't that an odd behavior to vote the person your top scumread is voting?
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Post Post #1285 (isolation #217) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:09 pm

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@What are your thoughts on implosion and Prism?
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Post Post #1289 (isolation #218) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:17 pm

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In post 1285, eagerSnake wrote:
@Gamma
What are your thoughts on implosion and Prism?
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Post Post #1294 (isolation #219) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:43 pm

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VOTE: Unvote

For now to see where things go
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Post Post #1340 (isolation #220) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:32 am

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In post 1321, Shadow_step wrote:This is another scum flailing lie, he got mled in the last game we played together.
This is a lie.
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Post Post #1341 (isolation #221) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:37 am

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=67948

This is the game he is referring to in which I:
In post 0, SirCakez wrote:eagerSnake - Endgamed Day 4 - Town Bulletproof Cop
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Post Post #1342 (isolation #222) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:51 am

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In post 1297, Dierfire wrote:UNVOTE: PenguinPower
VOTE: eagerSnake

I want a full claim from eagerSnake.
Yeah... That's not how this works...

Interesting, though.
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Post Post #1346 (isolation #223) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:36 am

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In post 1294, eagerSnake wrote:VOTE: Unvote

For now to see where things go
@Mod:
I unvoted in 1294
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Post Post #1358 (isolation #224) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:57 am

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I absolutely hate Zoronos' indecisiveness.
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Post Post #1366 (isolation #225) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:42 pm

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Why me tell
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Post Post #1370 (isolation #226) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:55 pm

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How can you be in favor for an argument you disbelieve?
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Post Post #1408 (isolation #227) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:25 pm

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That's some high level conspiracy theory...
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Post Post #1410 (isolation #228) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:29 pm

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I'm not
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Post Post #1413 (isolation #229) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:36 pm

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Too bad all those reads are in vain
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Post Post #1442 (isolation #230) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:05 am

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Well make up your minds people
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Post Post #1443 (isolation #231) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:05 am

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Who's it going to be?
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Post Post #1451 (isolation #232) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:14 am

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What about nolynch?
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Post Post #1454 (isolation #233) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:10 pm

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At least the PRs will get to do some work. It's like an informed nightstart
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Post Post #1455 (isolation #234) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:11 pm

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But yeah I think you're scum even more after that last post

VOTE: boring
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Post Post #1464 (isolation #235) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:07 pm

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In post 1462, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah, Eager's no lynch request looks bad.
VOTE: Eager
I didn't even vote no lynch I'm just fielding it as an idea because we have 2 claimed ascetics which means pr's have a better idea of who to target
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Post Post #1466 (isolation #236) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:15 pm

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Not really because half of the player list already realizes I'm town
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Post Post #1469 (isolation #237) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:24 pm

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BTW I'm at L-1 so you might want to get your votes off me
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Post Post #1470 (isolation #238) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:25 pm

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Gamma why didn't you announce L-1?
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Post Post #1472 (isolation #239) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:26 pm

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Oh yeah, you forgot yeah right
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Post Post #1492 (isolation #240) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 4:16 pm

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You should all remember to do VC analysis based on what I posted earlier after flips. Anything after what I posted is moot bc scum are aware their votes are being checked
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Post Post #1493 (isolation #241) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 4:18 pm

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Claim: town ascetic


Losing me is better than losing a vanilla townie
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Post Post #1502 (isolation #242) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 4:41 pm

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In post 1193, eagerSnake wrote:Don't forget to do your VC and Wagon analysis

Spoiler: D1 Wagons
wagon1:
Lil Uzi Vert (3): Shadow_step, implosion, PenguinPower

wagon2:
Zoronos (4): DierFire, MariaR, boring, Gamma Emerald

wagon3:
PenguinPower (5): Grendel, Shadow_step, boring, Dierfire, nn30

wagon4:
Gamma Emerald (3): implosion, PenguinPower, MariaR

wagon5:
PenguinPower (5): Grendel, Shadow_step, boring, Dierfire, Gamma Emerald

wagon6:
Gamma Emerald (3): implosion, PenguinPower, nn30

wagon7:
boring (3): eagerSnake, MariaR, implosion

wagon8:
eagerSnake (4): Shadow_step, boring, PenguinPower, Gamma Emerald

wagon9:
Shadow_step (3): nn30, Lil Uzi Vert, Gamma Emerald

wagon10:
eagerSnake(4): Shadow_step, boring, PenguinPower, Prism

wagon11:
eagerSnake (5): Shadow_step, boring, PenguinPower, Grendel, Gamma Emerald
@nn30 use this post when doing wagon analysis

Just color code green for town
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Post Post #1505 (isolation #243) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 4:49 pm

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I'm going to flip green but hammer at will
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Post Post #1508 (isolation #244) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 4:56 pm

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In post 1502, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 1193, eagerSnake wrote:Don't forget to do your VC and Wagon analysis

Spoiler: D1 Wagons
wagon1:
Lil Uzi Vert (3): Shadow_step, implosion, PenguinPower

wagon2:
Zoronos (4): DierFire, MariaR, boring, Gamma Emerald

wagon3:
PenguinPower (5): Grendel, Shadow_step, boring, Dierfire, nn30

wagon4:
Gamma Emerald (3): implosion, PenguinPower, MariaR

wagon5:
PenguinPower (5): Grendel, Shadow_step, boring, Dierfire, Gamma Emerald

wagon6:
Gamma Emerald (3): implosion, PenguinPower, nn30

wagon7:
boring (3): eagerSnake, MariaR, implosion

wagon8:
eagerSnake (4): Shadow_step, boring, PenguinPower, Gamma Emerald

wagon9:
Shadow_step (3): nn30, Lil Uzi Vert, Gamma Emerald

wagon10:
eagerSnake(4): Shadow_step, boring, PenguinPower, Prism

wagon11:
eagerSnake (5): Shadow_step, boring, PenguinPower, Grendel, Gamma Emerald
Use this post when doing wagon analysis

Just color code green for town
All of my reads are probably wrong so just assume I thought everyone was scum
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Post Post #1518 (isolation #245) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:54 am

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I'm still town and I'm online too
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Post Post #1519 (isolation #246) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:35 am

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Was there any more questions?
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Post Post #1521 (isolation #247) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:58 am

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could be anybody
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Post Post #1523 (isolation #248) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:10 am

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[PenguinPower, boring, Gamma] most likely theres a scum in there
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Post Post #1528 (isolation #249) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:20 am

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I'm going to take my own life
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Post Post #1531 (isolation #250) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:23 am

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nah I want to see who is brazen enough to hammer me
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Post Post #1533 (isolation #251) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:32 am

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I'm town lol
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Post Post #1535 (isolation #252) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:34 am

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Now you did lol
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Post Post #1536 (isolation #253) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:43 am

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wagon1: Lil Uzi Vert (3): Shadow_step, implosion, PenguinPower

wagon2: Zoronos (4): DierFire, MariaR, boring, Gamma Emerald

wagon3a: PenguinPower (5): Grendel, Shadow_step, boring, Dierfire, nn30
wagon3b: PenguinPower (5): (Grendel, Shadow_step, boring, Dierfire,) Gamma Emerald

wagon4a: Gamma Emerald (3): implosion, PenguinPower, MariaR
wagon4b: Gamma Emerald (3): (implosion, PenguinPower,) nn30

wagon5a: boring (3):
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wagon5b: boring (5): (
eagerSnake
, MariaR, implosion,) Gamma Emerald, nn30

wagon6: Shadow_step (3): nn30, Lil Uzi Vert, Gamma Emerald

wagon7a:
eagerSnake
(4): Shadow_step, boring, PenguinPower, Gamma Emerald
wagon7b:
eagerSnake
(4): (Shadow_step, boring, PenguinPower,) Prism
wagon7c:
eagerSnake
(5): (Shadow_step, boring, PenguinPower,) Grendel, Gamma Emerald
LYNCH:
eagerSnake
(7): (Shadow_step, boring, PenguinPower,) Dierfire, Prism, Gamma Emerald, Lil Uzi Vert

Parentheses indicates they were already listed on that wagon and hadn't changed their vote
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Post Post #1537 (isolation #254) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:50 am

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So..

Gamma was on the Zoronos, PenguinPower, boring, Shadow_step, and eagerSnake wagons..

nn30 was on the PenguinPower, Gamma Emerald, Shadow_step, and boring wagons..

PenguinPower was on the Lil Uzi Vert, Gamma Emerald, and eagerSnake wagons..

implosion was on the Lil Uzi Vert, Gamma Emerald, and boring wagons..

MariaR was on the Zoronos, Gamma Emerald, and boring wagons..

Shadow_step was on the Lil Uzi Vert, PenguinPower, and eagerSnake wagons..

boring was on the Zoronos and eagerSnake wagons..

Grendel was on the PenguinPower and eagerSnake wagons..

Dierfire was on the PenguinPower and eagerSnake wagons..

Lil Uzi Vert was on the Shadow_step and eagerSnake wagons..

Prism was on the eagerSnake wagon..

Zoronos was never on any wagon..
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Post Post #3397 (isolation #255) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:36 am

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everyone
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Post Post #3403 (isolation #256) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:46 am

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go ahead. I thought it was a good defense.
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Post Post #3405 (isolation #257) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:52 am

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In post 3404, Gamma Emerald wrote:The Day 3 massclaim was a shitty decision.
^This.

And I would've cop'd boring or at least PP, one of them had to be scum but after receiving an inno on implosion I would've lynched Prism as one of them had to be scum as well
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Post Post #3407 (isolation #258) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:54 am

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I guess you guys didn't see the 'boring v pp' or 'implosion v prism' like I saw them and yeah pp was obv but if somehow boring was town then that mean pp was scum
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Post Post #3408 (isolation #259) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:56 am

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In post 92, nn30 wrote:Well you're quick to make friends.

I'll have to remember this post once the game is over for learning purposes.
Oh yeah don't forget this for learning purposes. :cop:
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Post Post #3486 (isolation #260) » Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:48 am

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nn30 you need to work on town reading people and trusting them
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Post Post #3494 (isolation #261) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:55 am

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Yes. One ascetic claimed at day start. The other ascetic and thought the first one was gambiting scum. He stalked him all day 1 trying to figure out who his partners were and then counter-claimed ascetic half-way through Day 1. The first ascetic advocated they were both town by the nature of his cc. It is exactly right to say "the ascetics being self confirmed via claim makes the game pretty easy for town" as it would have been easy had the second ascetic and a couple others believed in them both being town. Also spot on saying two ascetics mislynches makes it easy for scum as that would have put them nearly in lylo. As it happened, it took all 3 scum on the wagon to finally lynch the first ascetic D1. However the other ascetic who counterclaimed was still pretty much conf town by the nature of his claim so only 1/2 of the ascetics ended up being lynched. Cop investigated a townie N1 and a goon lynched day 2. The cop was then killed n2. Due to a questionable mass claim decision d3, and following a townies lynch, the deputy was rendered irrelevant as they were eliminated n3. The neopolitan was lynched day 4 and the jail keeper was taken out n4. Following a d5 townie lynch and the death of another townie n5, one goon, one townie, and one town ascetic were left in a final lylo situation. After two weeks of deliberation, the ascetic and townie vote to lynch the last goon to win the game. It was a close game that could have easily gone either way
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