Micro 670: Death Miller Mafia 2 GAME OVER

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VOTE: Lemons

Stop being sour

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Since you're the only person here BTD6: r u scum?

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Good talk dude

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VOTE: rb

Stop being salty.

i am NaCl free tyvm

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important question: soft or hard shell tacos?

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Soft, definitely.

never unvoting this slot

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Ye u guys r nerds

I'm at L-2 btw so don't be nerds u nerds

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Nvm ArcAngel cant do a vote tag

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Sik wagon guys, does it come in gud LUL

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Soft, definitely.

never unvoting this slot

Dude wtf hard shell tacos are shitty disappointments

LMAO so awful

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Hey RK r u scum?

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VOTE: Road Kamelot

Scumclaimed.

Ez

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Who's scum?

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Do you think that a preference for soft shell tacos is scummy? I do.

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I'm aspergers

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R u some kind of taco hater?

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How come discussing tacos has a binary purpose? Why are the choices idiot and scum? Very pointed remark for this early in the game

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If you genuinely think I'm trying to distract you from a target, why are you not voting me? That's a strong scumtell for this early in the game, but you aren't following it? Why?

VOTE: Charloux

Serious vote. I can lynch this.

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If you genuinely think I'm trying to distract you from a target, why are you not voting me? That's a strong scumtell for this early in the game, but you aren't following it? Why?

How would this look to you: "Hey! RB! Are you scum or an idiot like me? Well, it doesn't matter (Votetag)."
I also thought you were at L-2 at the time(maybe the mod counted it regardless?), so me not bringing someone to L-1 should be NAI. SO your premise for me being scum is wrong, thus your seriousness about me getting lynched is ridiculous.

And i also said before that we don't have tacos here, so i don't have an opinion about them.
Btw 28 Was supposed to let me see what kind of person you are, but your disregarding half of my post to call me scum gives me scummy vibes.

So let's clarify.

You thought I was scummy but didn't vote because I was L-2?

But then you say you didn't think I was scummy you just wanted to know more about me? Can you make up your mind?

If the latter by the way, that doesn't make any sense. Why would you say I'm "trying to distract from a target" - is that what you say to people you want to get to know better?

"Hi, I'd like to get to know you better - I think you're distracting me from a target." - Said no one ever.

So firstly you're actually full of shit and secondly you're backing off on something you obviously thought was scummy (but now you just wanna get to know me). Why?

More votes on Charloux please.

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More Charloux votes pls.

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If you genuinely think I'm trying to distract you from a target, why are you not voting me? That's a strong scumtell for this early in the game, but you aren't following it? Why?

How would this look to you: "Hey! RB! Are you scum or an idiot like me? Well, it doesn't matter (Votetag)."
I also thought you were at L-2 at the time(maybe the mod counted it regardless?), so me not bringing someone to L-1 should be NAI. SO your premise for me being scum is wrong, thus your seriousness about me getting lynched is ridiculous.

And i also said before that we don't have tacos here, so i don't have an opinion about them.
Btw 28 Was supposed to let me see what kind of person you are, but your disregarding half of my post to call me scum gives me scummy vibes.

So let's clarify.

You thought I was scummy but didn't vote because I was L-2?

But then you say you didn't think I was scummy you just wanted to know more about me? Can you make up your mind?

If the latter by the way, that doesn't make any sense. Why would you say I'm "trying to distract from a target" - is that what you say to people you want to get to know better?

"Hi, I'd like to get to know you better - I think you're distracting me from a target." - Said no one ever.

So firstly you're actually full of shit and secondly you're backing off on something you obviously thought was scummy (but now you just wanna get to know me). Why?

More votes on Charloux please.

rb noah fence but this logic doesnt make any sense and youre missing that charlouxs initial scumread post was a blatant joke

even if youre scumreading him for his tone and responses, which is fine u do you, dont pretend this logic holds water

unless ur his scumbuddy pls dont be a chainsaw it makes it harder to reread the game later

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If you genuinely think I'm trying to distract you from a target, why are you not voting me? That's a strong scumtell for this early in the game, but you aren't following it? Why?

How would this look to you: "Hey! RB! Are you scum or an idiot like me? Well, it doesn't matter (Votetag)."
I also thought you were at L-2 at the time(maybe the mod counted it regardless?), so me not bringing someone to L-1 should be NAI. SO your premise for me being scum is wrong, thus your seriousness about me getting lynched is ridiculous.

And i also said before that we don't have tacos here, so i don't have an opinion about them.
Btw 28 Was supposed to let me see what kind of person you are, but your disregarding half of my post to call me scum gives me scummy vibes.

So let's clarify.

You thought I was scummy but didn't vote because I was L-2?

But then you say you didn't think I was scummy you just wanted to know more about me? Can you make up your mind?

If the latter by the way, that doesn't make any sense. Why would you say I'm "trying to distract from a target" - is that what you say to people you want to get to know better?

"Hi, I'd like to get to know you better - I think you're distracting me from a target." - Said no one ever.

So firstly you're actually full of shit and secondly you're backing off on something you obviously thought was scummy (but now you just wanna get to know me). Why?

More votes on Charloux please.

rb noah fence but this logic doesnt make any sense and youre missing that charlouxs initial scumread post was a blatant joke

even if youre scumreading him for his tone and responses, which is fine u do you, dont pretend this logic holds water

unless ur his scumbuddy pls dont be a chainsaw it makes it harder to reread the game later

This is now the longest quote period I've ever made.

Milestone.

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rb a chainsaw requires a scumread on you for scumreading my bud charloux over here dont mistake the term with soft defense
Also your logic was bad admit it and move on

this is gonna be a long game for u if ur gonna talk to me about logic

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U have a weied idea of angry

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Well everyone in this game is just a Serious Sam

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funnily eniugh all people that i know who are named Sam are pretty serious

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Karnos is town noobs

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Karnos is town noobs

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Anyone who thinks Karnos is scum is slow irl

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Welcome to my townblock Karnos. Population: rb and karnos

Wanna vote Charloux with me?

GL is derp but derp doesn't mean scum

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I am doing a poop at the moment so this is a shitpost

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"everyone should have my playstyle and anyone who doesn't is scum"

who's your second best scumread GL tythx

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Why is Charloux now going from thinking I'm scummy to now saying it's just my playstyle with no ulterior motives?

Can we just powerlynch this scum already

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The correct vote to make is for Charloux

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Karnos was right though we should lynch any guilty

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<3

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Karnos and Guilty aren't a scumteam

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We've been out of RVS for quite a while tbh

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Currently handing out free towncred for anyone who votes Charloux

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if karnos is town he needs to stop trying to play bullshit WIFOM plans and needs to play openly and straighforwardly

So are you asking me to claim on day 1 when I'm not even at L-1?

no, I am asking you to answer questions about why you said "only scum" would push you on talking about what you'd do against a potential guilty. Like it's hilarious that you said:

Without going into detail, one big difference between town and scum is such: a town player will look at a reason why an action might be taken by town, while scum players just need to look for a reason why an action might be taken by scum.

and yet you continue to call me scum without ever explaining why. I'm obvious town and your only push this game is bad.

Why are you obvious town?

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We've been out of RVS for quite a while tbh

We're still at some phase in the game that is at least very similar to RVS, or the next step after it, where anything may or may not be NAI but, if alignment indicative, is extremely weak. Even if it is not technically RVS, it is RVS for all practical purposes. I consider the game out of RVS when you can form reads based on something meaningful that is not extremely weak. For example, from my viewpoint GL would have a 25% chance of being scum by random chance. Now I consider it to be something like 25.5%. This is nullscum for now, but later on something like this wouldn't even be worth calling nullscum as opposed to pure null.

Well it's not

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You smell like scum, i didnt put a lot of thought into it

Also if i sheep rb he wont lynch me

i wont lynch u today anyway

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y r u imploding lmao

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Not really sure what to make of that last post.

Tempted to unvote because it feels like genuine frustration but at the same time I don't ever want that in lylo.

This website is making me seriously consider starting a blacklist.

ya if Charloux flips town im blacklisting

has a meltdown at L-2 pls relax and play game tyvm

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anyway no one hammer Charloux yet.

karnos+guilty are not a scumteam. a PR should clear one of them as if they get a guilty we know the other is town imo. also if innocent we can start to townblock

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I think they might both be town, which would be rly good if they start cooperating. investigate GL tonight imo.

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a jailkeeper should jail an NK target, no idea who itd be right now tho

probably me LUL

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Also that was not towny frustration from charloux, doesnt look real at all tbh

im wary of ur alignment but i agree

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Im not frustrated, im pissed off.
Here are my demands or ill become a pseudo lyncher/jester
1) rb takes this game seriously, uses his brain and does something that has value.
2)rk explaines her read on me and apologizes for spitting in my face when i asked her earlier.

@culted: why is me scumreading somebody who is gutvoting me scummy? Why is it scummy for me to be open with my thought process?

wow ur a rly serious guy hey

1) im seriously trying to lynch u and ur not townposting
2) you know this is role playing game yes?

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and no one is gonna feel bad about lynching someone who threatens to 'become a jester' if that person flips town. hence why i will indeed blacklist you if you're town because you're not only self-voting for like no reason but you're actually playing against your wincon. stop being a petulant toddler, we're all adults here

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@Rb: you were leading a propaganda to get me lynched, ignoring most of the thread. Now that i want to be lynched, you are saying nobody hammer and ill get blacklisted if im town. You are negating all your posts and nobody gives 2 fucks about you.

oooh speaking of giving fucks!!

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I'm really bad with people who act like kids but are really smart, prideful and sadistic. He isn't playing mafia, he is playing "Make the guy who made fun of me suffer as much as he can". Like a corrupt politician he disregards laws(rules), but uses them when he needs to make his point. I also think winning is secondary, and having fun is primary; but i am at least trying to win.

UNVOTE: Charloux Is your avatar just for show then?

yas i very corrupt

now accepting bribes

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u keep saying stuff where i have no idea what you're talking about

where did you even make fun of me?

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i guess the difference between you and me is that winning is primary and im not anti wincon

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but im lynching scum????

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also being anti wincon entails actively trying to fuck over ur team. Hence why i said im blacklisting you if you pull some stupid jester stunt.

Im not talking about just playing and not having 100% accurate reads. I think u know that or ur just one of those ppl who dont ever read between lines and need to have everything specified to the 27th decimal place before the lightbulb clicks

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reasons are overrated tbh

I usually cant be bothered explaining my intuition and no one actually said anything that makes what i said not applicable. fancy wordplay doesnt change that ur scum u know

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what i wanna know is why you've spent the entire game just arguing over dumb things and not actually scumhunting yourself

if you showed me yours i woulda showed you mine, but u scumclaimed early so now i have to tunnel u. Its annoying i know but it just how it be homeslice

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im actually wondering how u can even imagine people are gonna townread u when u say stuff like that

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i get it, ur one of those people who thinks that detecting liars is about big long cases where we analyse the causal relationship between a bunch of unknown varisbles but its actually a really simple process:

someone sounds like a liar. they respond like a liar when u call them a liar. They're probably a liar.

if not, you just find another liar to lynch. this process is repeated until the liars or the other liars with more players but who dont know which liars are the liars they lie with are all dead

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i believe ur greatly overestimating the rustledness of my jimmies

Also its very scummy to make a shadethrowing post at someone and then play the "its just a prank bro!" card

did u guys watch episode 71 of dragonball super?

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Ok well good night friends

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Im bot wearing pants btw Charloux. Just thought you should know that.

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omg the semantics

I am saying I will attempt to figure out what everyone else's alignments are, not justify my own. There is nothing I can just say as a magic answer to "why are you town" that scum!me couldn't also say. You're asking a stupid question. The real point of the matter is that if you can't see that I'm town here then either your game needs to improve or you have ulterior motives.

You're actually explaining why you're not obvtown

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post 8 isn't even AI it's just a thing a person as either alignment would say because they're a person playing mafia and it's a post designed to get townreads which is what both town and mafia do

if that's why guilty is obvtown and that's what he's talking about then LUL

if not then i still dno why hes meant to be obvtown

hes obv not scum with karn0s tho

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and charloux feels fake because hes one of those people who draw these weird parallels between life and mafia that dont have any relevance to anything we're doing

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I kinda think Charloux is town tbh, like can someone who is scumreading the "fake" frustration break down for me why it's fake and not genuine?

karnos is still scum. It's frustrating that he's gonna just post one-liners like 179, ignore everything else going on, and you all are letting him off the hook for it.

Yeah, this is still scum.

My proposal: we lynch guilty lion. If he is town, he should be okay with being lynched because his flip will validate his argument and theoretically town could lynch me in retaliation. Except that won't happen because he is going to flip red.

Except you still haven't ever given a single reason as to why I'm scum. You have absolutely ZERO reason to be this confident in my alignment, and you completely ignore every single time I or anyone else asks you to explain. You get no say in the lynch because you haven't answered any questions asked of you.

Also,
karnos: Guilty is scum!
Guilty: no, I'm obvtown
Everyone: huh why are you obvtown?!?

The Question You Should Be Asking is: why am I scum, according to karnos?

Like seriously guys, learn to play. The game is about explaining why people are scum, not why they are town. It doesn't matter why I think I'm obvtown, it matters why karnos can't give an actual reason as to why I'm scum. Also rb like you literally just saw my scumgane in GoT, I'm not really sure why you can't see the differences here.

Also, this post in general is not at all town motivated. I will flip green. If karnos is town he is literally chaining mislynches. Only scum has incentive to be so bullheaded in their push that they wager their own lynch on it. If karnos were town I would expect him to be a little more uncertain. like I keep saying, I still don't understand why he thinks I'm scum, and he constantly refuses to answer.

1. I dont use meta because it's trash
2. By that logic too, you've seen karnos do this as town before in Grey Flag - so what's the deal? He chained mislynches as town in 624 where we all played

You want me to townread you for seeing your 'scumgame' recently - well karnos is playing his exact towngame from 624 as well and you conveniently ignore that.

Anyway this discussion has nothing to do with finsjng scum and is pointless. Just stfu both od you and make a better vote

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my god ur actually the worst

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Im not frustrated, im pissed off.
Here are my demands or ill become a pseudo lyncher/jester
1) rb takes this game seriously, uses his brain and does something that has value.
2)rk explaines her read on me and apologizes for spitting in my face when i asked her earlier.

@culted: why is me scumreading somebody who is gutvoting me scummy? Why is it scummy for me to be open with my thought process?

Sometimes it's you bud.

How could anyone think that you're scummy for scumreading someone. I wanted you to go into why you thought the naked vote was scummy not throw me some obvious bs about you wanting to hammer if their wagon got to L-1.

Then you get cheeky with me about asking filler questions like, why should I want to work with you if you're not gonna try and work with me and I ask again; if you have scumreads why aren't you voting for them?

Holy shit yeah, Charloux has all these players he finds scummy but isnt even voting.

More Charloux votes pls, Im happy lynching him now tbh

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Bro you dont even like play you just get angry and stuff. Is this normal for you?

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Charlohx why are you NOT voting one of your SRs?

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Im gonna get to this game in a bit, have some thoughts.

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Okay so the thing is when I vote early day1 the vote moves if the player starts to towntell or someone else really scumtells. Charloux isn't being town and his responses to his wagon are really bad and I dislike them.

1. He has a lot of scumreads, doesn't have a vote on anyone - wut?
2. When I push on him, he's been complaining that I don't put out content, I'm not doing anything etc. and despite that I'm tunneling on him (presumably a town player) he still really thinks I'm town - wut?

But despite thinking I'm town, he wants to discredit me as much as possible but he's still insisting I am town. This is in my experience what happens when scum get caught. They can't agree with the reasoning or the wagon obviously, but they don't call me scum either because they know it'll make me tunnel harder.

So it's like, "ur town but ur wrong!" - I get NK'd on night 1 like all the fkn time as well because of this, to find that my day1 vote was on scum OR I was really close to outing some scum. Scum often TR me and just decide they're gonna kill me, because when I'm town I towntell hard and they can't mislynch me (and I guess i'm a decent scumhunter).

Charloux is playing in this weird way that I just don't see town really play - he's not solving, he's not pressuring, he isn't cooperating with anyone, he's just posting reads lists. He's making a lot of noise to get his wagon to dismantle, while doing really nothing else.

If he's town I'll be really disappointed, but I think he's scum.

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Why is RK town

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Like dont give me reasons for why she's town I'm more asking how she isnt likely scum from your POV.

Not that it really matters atm. I could actually lynch ArcAngel too.

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You're both town lol

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GuiltyTiger and raknos

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they aren't a scumteam. one of them is definitely town.

on top of that, i TR both of them. it's pretty unlikely they're scum

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That they're both playing like town

Hydraslip, that was me

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I'm more interested in why you think either of them are scum tbh

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Elaborate why?

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I dont explain townreads.

Arc I've already said that I think Charloux + you are likely scum

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Charloux is a great lynch today, both GL and Karnos are bad.

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BTD6 is unfuriatingly lurky and will probably need to be investigated.

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Like one of those players who are really slow and complains about hsving to read stuff in a game played by text interactions, with deadlines that mean you need to be active throughout certain periods.

I'll never be able to read or understand these players beyond the fact that when I'm town I hate them regardless of their alignment

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BTD6 are u actually gonna play the game called mafia at any point?

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BTD6 added to the lynchpool

BTD6
Charloux
ArcAngel

These are the 3 optimal votes for town to make today. Anyone who finds someone else scummier than these 3 needs a good case because im gonna start actually trying soon

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@ArcAngel + BTD6 - if you're both town that's really sad and please stop being deadweight so we can lynch scum tyty

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With Christmas it seems reasonable imo

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if ArcAngel is town i'm actually done. will vote Arc if no one wants to wagon Charloux anymore, but I feel like Arc is just likely lurkerscum but Charloux actually plays like scum and therefore Charloux is better lynch

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if ArcAngel is town i'm actually done. will vote Arc if no one wants to wagon Charloux anymore, but I feel like Arc is just likely lurkerscum but Charloux actually plays like scum and therefore Charloux is better lynch

I am town. I dont really understand the reasons behind wagon.

So lack of content is confirmed SCUM? so are we creating a new meta here?

I don't really give a shit at this point. If you're town I'm actually blacklisting you because you're deadweight and I don't want to have to carry around players who are low activity AND bad. I don't care if you're one or the other, but both is just excruciating to play with as town. Literal fucking deadweight.

The least you can do is vote alongside your best townread if you're going to do absolutely nothing else in the game.

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Legit we're 2 days from deadline and you haven't so much as put a vote down.

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VOTE: ArcAngel

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Someone just hammer, she's barely made 10 one-liner posts in more than a week of play. We're getting literally nothing meaningful from her.

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Is it worth reiterating that I also feel off about you and you are the only one defending arcangel?

Not relevant imo, even if Arc flips scum.

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Karnos' concers seem sincere to me.
I still think AA is our best lynch today, especially with such little time left, but I see nothing wrong with giving her a chance to defend.

This is scum if AA is town.

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Maybe.

Actually it's not anything forget I said that.

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VOTE: Charloux

thx

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this shoulda been the day1 lynch.

arcangel = blacklisted as well, 2nd game i've played with her and she was infuriatingly bad as town

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Scum sure took a gamble with this kill. Nobody else was worth killing so the jailkeeper would've been on her if we had him. Waiting for the results then.

no one claim, rolefishing

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No one claim

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Nah I'm the best

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Tbh if ur town as well i just don't even know why people like you and arc queue

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Im gonna re read this game all properly and stuff and then solve it. Some time in the next few days, for now sleep

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I really am having a stupid holidays. Sorry I'm struggling to be active atm.

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I'm actually so bad at this game rn.

I wish I had better reads, I don't. RK/Charloux are my top scumreads atm, that's literally it and that doesn't even make a lot of sense as a scumteam necessarily.

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I'm actually so bad at this game rn.

I wish I had better reads, I don't. RK/Charloux are my top scumreads atm, that's literally it and that doesn't even make a lot of sense as a scumteam necessarily.

RK has left this game, I was their replacement. That said what's your opinion on karnos?

Yer i dun like u

Karnos is prpbabky town imo

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I'm actually so bad at this game rn.

I wish I had better reads, I don't. RK/Charloux are my top scumreads atm, that's literally it and that doesn't even make a lot of sense as a scumteam necessarily.

Dumb question, how did you not notice RK had left? It's not like there has been much of note and you even replied to me.

im pretty absent minded even on a good day XD

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i really am hating this game in particular

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culted: should we lynch in the lurkers? like this game is unbearable because no one even posts, and i'm pretty sure scum are lurking.

y/n?

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BTD6_maker - v/la makes it a pain to read, I hope like hell you get active real fast because this game is just painful
Lemons - currently town but you really need to get involved more
Charloux - that last post, I want to lynch you just for that... that said you are likely scum
culted - I'm liking you a bit more, you are now an even neutral, please keep it up
karnos - SCUM, and nothing you have said has changed that.
rb - Oh wow, please for the love of god drop the awful attempts at humor, you went from a town read to a mild scum read

I admit I haven't been very active myself, this is only my 2nd game and I'm not really sure how to lead a town with no active players...

I also reiterate my intent to vote Charloux but am only holding back to avoid a quick lynch as my vote puts them at L-1

i like how i turned to mild scum after i started potentially scumreading your slot

you know what, RK sheeping me was shady and idunlikeu either

VOTE: darkshadownumbers

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Culted is definitely leaning town for me right now. Not really following karnos' logic there. I can see what he means about 160, but seems like pretty flimsy evidence.
Rb, I can't tell if he's scum trying to take advantage of the situation to lynch lurkers, or if he really is just frustrated with the game. Probably the latter.
Charloux still seems scum, and now he's gone back to lurking it seems. Kind of hard to move forward when the main wagon target doesn't say anything for a week, apart from updating us about feminists.

It is now January 5th, so I'm hoping BTD6 decides to show up.

"DEFINITELY LEANING"

> Okay.

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i agree you know Lemons, Charloux seems just like scum outlurking pressure and I don't know whether to be more annoyed at him for being a lurky dickpoop or THE REST OF THE TOWN THAT WONT JUST FUCKING VOTE HIM FOR SOME REASON

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VOTE: Charloux

yeah the more i think about it the more it makes zero sense for Charloux to be playing this super duper non-committal and giving zero-reads type of game if he's town.

i'm just being put off by ArcAngel flipping dogshit town on day 1

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i swear if charloux also flips town then i'm just gonna blame the loss on both of them for having basically no idea how to even be remotely town. there's seriously no way anyone can be expected to tell the difference between town that do literally nothing and scum that do literally nothing

like if you guys are both town then pick a new hobby

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Oh, it was more of rb's funding awful humor...

one day you'll realise that taking the world seriously is for seriousworldtakerpeople and that an absurd approach to life and people is objectively superior in all ways

until then have fun being a soulsucker i guess

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i swear if charloux also flips town then i'm just gonna blame the loss on both of them for having basically no idea how to even be remotely town. there's seriously no way anyone can be expected to tell the difference between town that do literally nothing and scum that do literally nothing

like if you guys are both town then pick a new hobby

Tone whiplash from posts like this to humor really hurts credibility.

ur a really bad player if u think that people with a different sense of humour is a scumtell

pls dont interact with me ur soulsuckingness is gonna rub off on me

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^ HDYRASLIPS SORRY

let's lynch charloux

darkshadow is probably town btw

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BTD6 + LemoNZZZ + CharloUXXXXX = scum inside those 3

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sorry guys :/

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karnos isn't scum lol

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Btd flips scum 99/100 times.

Darkshadow is completely meh.

I almost wanna scumread rb because his push on charloux isn't even fair in spots like I just iso'd charloux and he's been giving good thoughts consistently so sring him for not providing reads sucks.

Let's check out lemons because if he's town the game's easy.

Do you really feel that way tho? I tried to find reasons to TR Charloux and didn't. UNVOTE: Charloux

But you're giving me pause. Who do you think is an unacceptable lynch? Who is a good lynch?

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Alright I'll read Lemons and report back

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Yeh thats why my scumreads were Charloux+RK even if unlikely team, if Charloux is town I'd say RK/DS is scum along with someone not on the Charloux wagon.

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just got prod, i'm a gunsmith and i literally forgot to investigate night 1

so one of them is lying

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what did karnos claim?

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lmao gunsmith.

is 2 gunsmiths possible?

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if not, karnos is scum

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just got prod, i'm a gunsmith and i literally forgot to investigate night 1

so one of them is lying

Please confirm if you were joking again or actually serious.

im serious LOL

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there's legit no reason for me to make this play as scum, because if you lynched karnos and he flipped town i'd be next

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but i need to know if we can have 2 of the same role. Is 2 cop/2 gunsmith etc. possible

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@mykonian can you confirm if this setup can have duplicate PRs or not?

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Everyone stop freaking out until mykonian answers

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VOTE: karnos

Okay well karnos is scum then

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i checked you and you have a gun

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so you're either scum or the death miller

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RK pinged me as really scummy the way she sheeped me on Charloux early game, saved only by the fact that my top 2 scumreads were Charloux + RK and they were an unlikely scumteam. I kept my vote on Charloux for expedience because I figured they were both as likely to flip scum and the alignment of one would tell the other.

I'm pretty sure Charloux is town now and that you're scum.

I'd like to kill Darkshadow, but I want to hear what others say first. How likely is he the death miller?

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Don't lynch yet. This day is useful for interactions

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Rb is conf town and culted is obvtown for me. I had a scumread on Dark's slot and on himself since the beginning. That hammer in the end just makes him more scummy.
This doesn't really mean anything, but i am the deathmiller based on all the bad things that happened to me this past month. Rb forgetting to use his action also probably saved my life.
VOTE: Darkshadow

I wasn't gonna investigate you, would been RK or lemons

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So there's the possibility DS is the miller I agree, and it's better to drag this day way out while I'm still conftown and decide who the last scum is. If DS flips red but the game doesn't end, we know he was town.

So apart from delaying gratification if he really is scum, this has no downside. I'm at work right now but I'll read through game again with more info.

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With some flips and stuff it should be easier to find the last scum in VCA.

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Karnos scumbuddy wasn't on his wagon during the GL+Karnos fight for example

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Last scum is culted if DS isn't scum btw.

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Just realised why this game was so confusing when he wqs one of my top TRs, cos he's fkn scum

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Wish I'd investigated lemons N1 ffs

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Culted, if you aren't scum

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Lemons is town

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I don't fancy a Lemons+Charloux+Culted Lylo

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Well hey we're lynching darkshadow today still. No one should be confused about that.

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At the time it was all the evidence you'd given.
My suspicion of your read on BTD was primarily due to your heal turn directly after karnos' baseless PR claim, which turned out to be false. I still find this pretty sketchy, and in hindsight it looks like you were looking for a way to stop bussing your partner.

Why was karnos' claim baseless?

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Can u guys all unvote plOx

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Charloux, who's scum?

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Actually nahhhh culted won't flip scum I made a mistake

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The lynch options are Lemons/Charloux/Darkshadow

Darkshadow is today. Let's decide who we do tomorrow

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Assuming DS is the miller as he claims

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But I wanna know why you got on the Charloux wagon culted

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RK was your top scumread, but you then jumped onto the Charloux wagon with them - y u do that?

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Lemons has such town voting patterns, he isn't scum. If he is he's just 2g4me

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but how is that different from any other claim?

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I dunno, I think it's between culted + lemons.

Which one do you think is scum?

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you know the worst thing, if charloux flips town along with arcangel it means town was literally playing with 2 people not even trying.

why the fuck even sign up for a game

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Whew, too much wifom.

imo it's best to reread like pages 5-10 before the game gets really thick and juicy because people's personalities are more raw and not polished. lategame scum are just wifom machines. The last 5 pages aren't giving me anything meaningful on lemons/culted/charloux.

DS should die today, anything less is just ridiculous. But in the event he isn't scum, we have to decide which of culted/lemons/charloux is scum.

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Lemons - top SR out of charloux/culted
Culted - top SR out of charloux/lemons
Charloux - top SR
DS - top SR

I prefer if you all answer this in a separate post separate to any others, as just a one word answer.

If DS is town, two of you are in Lylo. But we should figure out lylo today with 5 players alive, not 3. We have a better chance of winning the game if we're pre-prepared for Lylo, as opposed to waiting for Lylo

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I don't even know my top SR right now, gotta re read

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Pages 5-15 are really good tbh. Lots of fites but:

- I think Charloux is town

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And the lynch should probably be Lemons....I think....

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I h8 lylo (((((

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rb's right rereading 5-15 was the clarity I needed. Day 2 was also good to refresh on.

Lemons is scum.

And in pg5-15 I decided that you're definitely town. If not, amazing scumgame and you win. Plus you're unlikely to be karnos' scumbuddy based on pretty much the entirety of the game so I really can't find a sane reason to lynch you over someone else.

Culted is town.

We lynch out of Lemons/Charloux if DS is not scum.

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We were never losing with me saying culted was definitely town. If I lived, I was voting Lemons, if I died, culted was voting Lemons and everyone was always going to follow either myself or culted.

It seemed sloppy based on the start but it turned out almost impossible to lose for town unless for no reason at all Charloux distrusted me/culted.

Also I checked Lemons last night so if I lived it was GoOdGAme too.