Pick Your Power: Double Deck (GAME OVER)

[gerryoat]

I've done absolutely nothing this game and still TR. How does this make you feel, Maria?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Why are you voting for Kraska? You didn't address my point about it being nitpicking.

I've explained the reasoning for the vote more than once. Explain how it's nitpicking.

I will say this has me questioning the significance though:

VOTE: Jackel98

Even though

He will

Probably be

A mislynch

Is blatantly poor play just the norm around here now?

Your main reasoning for voting her was because she voted for Drone despite believing he'll flip town yet you ignored how hard she fought for a Transcend lynch and was forced to compromise. If you had an actual issue with compromising you would have called out everyone who did but instead you singled out her. Felt like nitpicking.

[MariaR]

I've done absolutely nothing this game and still TR. How does this make you feel, Maria?

That you're a walking example on how for some reason I'm getting pushed and you're not lol

It's prob cause I'm more vocal

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Maria, you're having a meltdown that I'm finding hard to believe is coming from town right now.

[MariaR]

Maria, you're having a meltdown that I'm finding hard to believe is coming from town right now.

no shit I'm having a meltdown I'm pissed.

What makes it hard to believe is coming from town please enlighten me how I SHOULD act in this situation I bet you have an answer don't ya

[gerryoat]

I've done absolutely nothing this game and still TR. How does this make you feel, Maria?

That you're a walking example on how for some reason I'm getting pushed and you're not lol

It's prob cause I'm more vocal

I'm very vocal. I don't really see you as town either. tho can't say I really scum read you either tho. you're just null

[davesaz]

I took Maxous's post to be aimed at me, not you.

[MariaR]

Okay I'ma go rage at league I've ate'd a lot more then I would've liked.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Maria, you're having a meltdown that I'm finding hard to believe is coming from town right now.

no shit I'm having a meltdown I'm pissed.

What makes it hard to believe is coming from town please enlighten me how I SHOULD act in this situation I bet you have an answer don't ya

Well I mean I don't see town feeling the need to constantly defend and justify their play the way you've been doing especially in such an over the top way as opposed to just playing and continuing to scum hunt despite all the heat. Actions speak louder than words and that's why you're being scum read right now.

[Titus]

Luv is still scum. Chainsawing Dunn is also being helped.

[Quipla]

DECK x 41 - TRUMP x 1 - DISCARD PILE x 10

DAY 2 VOTECOUNT #11

Jackel98 (8)

- SpyreX, gigabyteTroubadour, milkshake, kraska77, McMenno, Fishythefish, Lil Uzi Vert, Transcend

MariaR (4)

- davesaz, Dunnstral, Maxous, Kison

Dunnstral (2)

- Titus, MariaR

kraska77 (1)

- Vedith

Lil Uzi Vert (1)

- gerryoat

milkshake (1)

- Vifam

Titus (1)

- Jackel98

Vecna (1)

- drealmerz7

davesaz (1)

- Vecna

Not Voting (0)

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Deadline is set for (expired on 2016-12-19 13:01:49)

[kraska77]

ok friends

listen up

Best outcome is scum/town tradeoff

not really
current gamestate desperately needs some weeding out of useless slots
jackel seems like he could be of great help to town if he contributes more and has been pushed to do so multiple times but he chooses to continue to be as useful as a white crayon and he'll most probably get run up again and lynched in the future anyway even if maria flips scum today
the only reason dunn and co are getting away with being annoying is because today's wagons are controversial enough to drown out everything else
so i feel strongly about my maria scumread. and jackel wagon popping up adjacent to maria's wagon right from the start of day 1 makes me feel hes probably just disengaged town
so him dying and taking maria down with him is imo the best way to advance the gamestate
even if im colossally wrong about maria and it turns out she was town, this is still a good extra kill we net a lot from. this way we can quickly move on from these two and do something about all the other non-contributing slots while we can still afford a few mislynches. because scum are definitely going to make sure active slots dwindle in number and keep the lurkers around to fall into disarray. imo everyone playing like a deteriment to town should be weeded out early, and this isnt just about policy, i also happen to be townreading most of the active slots too...and i think theyre going after eachother's necks(eg. vecna and titus) because scum are lurking the hell out of the game and it's disorienting town

so tl;dr i think jackels probably town and maria's scum and double kill on 2 noncontributing slots is doing more good than harm even if both end up flipping town.

VOTEU JACKEL
VENGEKILL MARIA

micdrop

[Titus]

Yeah, no.

*kicks mic to hands*

*tosses it to Kison*

Scummy McScumFuck, Talk.

[Kison]

Can I sing karaoke instead?

[Maxous]

Jackel is obv-town with recent posts.

Not voting

[Titus]

Can I sing karaoke instead?

Only if that karaoke gives reads on the playerlist.

[Vecna]

VOTE: Kison

Some more motivation might be required

[drealmerz7]

At this point I feel pretty solid that mariaR is scum - it has gone from scummy playstyle that I just don't like because (I think) in general players who play that way simply use it to hide being scum (essentially play like scum when town so when scum they can be scummy and get away with it - shitplay, imo) - to thinking this is probably one of those times such a player is actually scum trying to hide in this playstyle, it's just too much too fake too scummy manipulative - it just doesn't help ppl read her and she knows it and I think "gets off" on getting away with it and that is starting to come out a bit (anger at EVERY SINGLE PERSON not buying the act, blah), which I think only happens as scum too - I'd be happy if a vig. shot her when able, I'd be happy lynching her today, I'd be okay waiting another Day and seeing which direction the feels on her go

I've been going back over jackel and his interactions and while I'm not as secure on him as scum as MariaR, I can see him quite possibly being. I think what helps is that I have a few of the players on the wagon as strong town (kraska, giga, fishy) and they are trying to solve the game in a way I like/I like a lot of what their reads and approaches are (which I commend with this many ppl around) and I trust their confidence and that helps me build confidence in the read on jackel.

jackel isn't responding to the heat as I usually prefer town to, pushing an alternate case and having more presence trying to make the most of the game and be as helpful as possible in case your involvement is coming to an end - it's weak and while I understand a bit of where he's at with the "mostly just giving a general good or bad feel to players at this point", now is the time to step up and fight if you're town, find the worst "bad feel" and go with it - he's being passive and kind of crowd-pleasy almost. it's kind of like "he has the taste of town but the aftertaste is scummy"

VOTE: jackel

p-edit: I typed that and got distracted by kitties and there's a handful of posts -

kraska, I hear you, lurking sucks and is hurting town at this point, I'm working on doing better, I swear, I fucking hate lurksacks and I am trying to weed through all the shit to find good thoughts to share

[MariaR]

All I see from people is "hiding behind her play" What does that mean I'm not hiding shit I'm not lurking I own up to every single play I make please show me what play I am using to hide

[MariaR]

Should I start lying when people ask me what my read on someone is cause I'll do it it's clearly what people want.

[MariaR]

No one who has sr me has even tried to engage me after I give an answer to them they just never talk about it again like ????????

[drealmerz7]

No that is not what I mean at all. Are you not even aware? I think you are aware and are just trolling now to get into it with whoever will get into it with you.

Talk to me after the game if you seriously aren't aware of what I mean hiding in scummy play. I'll give you quotes and explain it and everything. After the game, if you're town.

[MariaR]

What am I hiding quote it for everyone to see you have this giant ass case on me this shouldn't be to hard for you to point out I wanna see it

[MariaR]

If you think i'm scum (and this goes for everyone) throw everything at me don't be like "oh later" na vote me rn I don't want people to hide and shit -_-

[Titus]

VOTE: Kison

I can roll with that.