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Post Post #86 (isolation #0) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:25 am

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Hey, I'm here, catching up now!

Who should I vote?
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Post Post #91 (isolation #1) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:45 am

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VOTE: Dave

I have to read still, but the fact that he puts Vedith at an unannounced L-1 in and then tells me to vote him with there being a good chance I haven't read yet gives me the scumvibes.
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Post Post #158 (isolation #2) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:56 am

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This game is ridiculous to read.

Pretty sure Creature is town here. There was no reason to unvote Human if he was scum, since getting a wagon to L-1 in RVS isn't unheard of, and if someone else derphammered he could have easily justified it. Additionally pointing out Misa's vote count in makes no sense as scum.

mewtaph has nothing in their ISO except for agreeing with/not agreeing with reads. He says nothing about his read on Vedith in , but says he likes everyone on it as town except Tenshii then votes Tenshii. Asks Misa for reads in , then sheeps a vote on her in before she answers.

Vedith is impossible to read, as usual, but if mew flips scum I wouldn't be surprised if that's a partner based on 76. and add to this feeling as well.

I don't like Human tunneling on Vedith like he is, but I don't know if it's scummy.

Still trying to parse through everything else, but want to do this for now.

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Post Post #166 (isolation #3) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:53 am

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...no?

Oh, wait....replace "he" with "Creature", not with "Human"
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Post Post #179 (isolation #4) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:11 am

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In post 167, Vedith wrote:I understood that he is Creature but why can't they be scum together? Your post indicates that Human is town 100%?
My post in no way says that. Let's start with the idea they're a scum team - there's no way Creature's RVS vote happens like that. He draws way too much attention to both of them during RVS by putting Human at L-1 and then unvoting. It's RVS, he could have easily avoided the wagon entirely and it's doubtful anybody would have thought anything of it.

Now, if Creature's town like I think he is, then his behavior makes sense regardless of if Human is scum or town. Creature doesn't know, so putting an RVS wagon at L-1 is terrible. If Human is town, it allows for a derphammer/quickhammer. With 1 page into the game, I can't imagine town having a solid enough read on someone to risk that.
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Post Post #254 (isolation #5) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:05 am

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If you can dodge a thread, you can dodge a bullet!

Driving to see family, but will post content tonight.
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Post Post #298 (isolation #6) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:37 am

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Man, I've done shit this game and I'm still not the scummiest player or lynched?

Catching up now, but my gut is telling me Vedith is scum for reasons I'll explain shortly.
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Post Post #302 (isolation #7) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:07 am

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Except you're not, which is the scummy part. You're throwing all sorts of shade (,, ,), but you never vote me or try to convince anyone else I'm scum. All you do is say I'm scum for lurking/dodging, but would rather lynch somebody else first. Additionally, if you actually thought I was scum way back in 165 for a "scum slip", you would've pushed me a hell of a lot harder.

Haven't seen a recent VC yet, but don't really care.

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Post Post #303 (isolation #8) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:10 am

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In post 189, Human Sequencer wrote:Shadow, please post more.
I'll post when I want to post! (Sorry for my lack of presence in this game so far, should be better this week)
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Post Post #305 (isolation #9) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:18 am

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In post 196, Vedith wrote:
In post 195, nn30 wrote:Why are you scum reading me human
If you're actually town and not scum, it's probably because you're not a chosen one and Human is trying to mark you as one hoping for my flip of chosen. :up:
As I said, 1 for 1 is good for them, then to paint someone else as a chosen, cherry on top.
This is scum who screwed up their own ruleset and is pushing for something they don't even need. As soon as one chosen is lynched the other can be NKed, so there's no reason to force a lynch on both.
In post 1, ChaosOmega wrote:- As long as both Chosen Townies are alive, neither can be night-killed or endgamed (1 or 2 Mafia Goons vs. 2 Chosen Townies is a town win)
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Post Post #307 (isolation #10) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:20 am

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More specifically from that post:
In post 305, shaddowez wrote:
In post 196, Vedith wrote:
In post 195, nn30 wrote:Why are you scum reading me human
If you're actually town and not scum, it's probably because you're not a chosen one and
Human is trying to mark you as one hoping for my flip of chosen.
:up:
As I said, 1 for 1 is good for them, then to paint someone else as a chosen, cherry on top.
If Human is scum like Vedith is saying, he doesn't need to
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for Vedith to flip as chosen, he would know if Vedith was or not.
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Post Post #309 (isolation #11) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:22 am

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In post 306, Creature wrote:How do you play as scum?
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Post Post #312 (isolation #12) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:26 am

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I've only been in one game with nn30, and he played a good scum game as a Newbie (Newbie 1741), have to compare his game here to that (even though I dislike 1-game meta comparisons)
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Post Post #446 (isolation #13) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:17 am

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I'm here, reading now! Why isn't Vedith lynched yet? Any direct questions for me while I'm catching up?
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Post Post #448 (isolation #14) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:29 am

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DL is paused, so unless someone hammers I don't how I'm the definite lynch, that can easily swing.

Just saw that Vedith is replacing out, but I still think that slot is scum. I hate preflip associatives, but the other strong scum read I have at this time in Tenshii.

Dave is playing like a VI, but I don't think he's scum.

I think you're town, and I think Human is town.

nn30 is playing similarly to the other game I was in with him where he was scum, and his comment about me in gives me the jeebies.

I was originally reading Mew as scum, but their play was getting better, but that's another slot that is getting replaced so I wouldn't want to do anything with it.

I have to read TTTT again, but I have a gut town read on that slot.
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Post Post #449 (isolation #15) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:32 am

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In post 326, PsychoticDave wrote:I've still said all I have to say.
I'm just waiting for the day to end.
In post 328, Human Sequencer wrote:
In post 326, PsychoticDave wrote:I've still said all I have to say.
I'm just waiting for the day to end.
You're town, but you're BADPOSTING SO FUCKING HARD
HS nailed it. This is antitown to the max, and you're making it hard for people to not scum read you.
In post 334, Creature wrote:Vedith + nn30 doesn't make much sense.
Going with the two you were thinking about actually has us scumreading the same two people, Vedith and Tenshii.
In post 374, TTTT wrote:I'm either staying put on nn or turbo-lynching dave
don't wanna lynch Creature or Vedith
Why are you town reading Vedith? Is Dave a PL or are you actually scum reading him?
In post 378, Tenshii wrote:Dude if anything we should turbolynch shaddowez. Basically confirmed the Vedith wagon with his vote.
Considering it's a plurality lynch, this makes no sense. Also, considering how much time we had until deadline when I made the vote, I don't understand this at all.

I'd rather a Vedith lynch, but with the slot replacing anyway I'll do this.

VOTE: Tenshii
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Post Post #461 (isolation #16) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:36 am

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In post 460, Hiraki wrote:Are you kind of guesstimating if a scum team would do something on D1 to save themselves? It's a bit too theory heavy for me with no flips.
No - I'm saying I don't think that scum would put a buddy to L-1 in RVS, then immediately unvote and say "I didn't realize they were at L-1". Is it possible, yes, but that early in the game it read more as town to me.
In post 460, Hiraki wrote:Why does the player make a difference if your read on the slot was dependent on the slot? That might sound redundant but I hope I'm getting my point somewhat across.
Two different reasons. First off, sometimes it's playstyle versus actual scumtells. For instance, I
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often get scum read as town, so there's something in my play that comes off as scummy. If the slot is actually scum, it's usually easy to identify with the replacement, but I like to give them a chance.

Secondly, I hate the idea of lynching an empty (ie waiting for a replacement), because at that point it's basically like a lurker/policy lynch.
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Post Post #505 (isolation #17) » Sun Dec 25, 2016 12:12 pm

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Christmas weekend V/LA, but will attempt to get back tonight because of deadline
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