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Post Post #600  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:31 pm

In post 291, TwoFace wrote:
In post 236, Asphodel wrote:I know you're still reading through, but when you're done I'd appreciate an explanation of why you think 110 reads TvT, especially how it makes Grey look town.

Why are you worried about how it makes grey look?

Aspho, you never answered my question

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Post Post #601  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:31 pm

In post 559, Ircher wrote:
In post 555, Naomi-Tan wrote:
In post 551, Ircher wrote:More buddying and coaching in-thread. Not a good sign after your earlier "slip".


Given that your current white knight POV. why is helping someone a bad thing. given you should be thinking; 'A Red is preventing a green from dying, thats a good thing, I don't need to comment'.

Yeah Just cause people are red reading me right now doesn't mean its gonna stop me helping someone who looks green and looks like they need assistance.

Let them help themselves.
I don't like this. You're trying to discourage town from building a cohesive town to form town led lynches.
In post 573, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 366, Alisae wrote:Qutie frankly I am calm, collected, and tired. Not freaking out. Press my buttons a bit and I can do that.

Either way, your voting is...I believe the right term is wishywashy?
VOTE: TheRealGin-N-Tonic

Dude I miss the evidence for this?
My point with this I don't see why he was voting me at the time if he had bigger scumreads.

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Post Post #602  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:34 pm

In post 601, Alisae wrote:
In post 559, Ircher wrote:
In post 555, Naomi-Tan wrote:
In post 551, Ircher wrote:More buddying and coaching in-thread. Not a good sign after your earlier "slip".


Given that your current white knight POV. why is helping someone a bad thing. given you should be thinking; 'A Red is preventing a green from dying, thats a good thing, I don't need to comment'.

Yeah Just cause people are red reading me right now doesn't mean its gonna stop me helping someone who looks green and looks like they need assistance.

Let them help themselves.
I don't like this. You're trying to discourage town from building a cohesive town to form town led lynches.
In post 573, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 366, Alisae wrote:Qutie frankly I am calm, collected, and tired. Not freaking out. Press my buttons a bit and I can do that.

Either way, your voting is...I believe the right term is wishywashy?
VOTE: TheRealGin-N-Tonic

Dude I miss the evidence for this?
My point with this I don't see why he was voting me at the time if he had bigger scumreads.

You know, Grey said the same thing about me at the beginning of the game except he didn't even try to back it up w/ quotes of any sort.....
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Post Post #603  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:38 pm

In post 602, Ircher wrote:
In post 601, Alisae wrote:
In post 559, Ircher wrote:
In post 555, Naomi-Tan wrote:
In post 551, Ircher wrote:More buddying and coaching in-thread. Not a good sign after your earlier "slip".


Given that your current white knight POV. why is helping someone a bad thing. given you should be thinking; 'A Red is preventing a green from dying, thats a good thing, I don't need to comment'.

Yeah Just cause people are red reading me right now doesn't mean its gonna stop me helping someone who looks green and looks like they need assistance.

Let them help themselves.
I don't like this. You're trying to discourage town from building a cohesive town to form town led lynches.
In post 573, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 366, Alisae wrote:Qutie frankly I am calm, collected, and tired. Not freaking out. Press my buttons a bit and I can do that.

Either way, your voting is...I believe the right term is wishywashy?
VOTE: TheRealGin-N-Tonic

Dude I miss the evidence for this?
My point with this I don't see why he was voting me at the time if he had bigger scumreads.

You know, Grey said the same thing about me at the beginning of the game except he didn't even try to back it up w/ quotes of any sort.....
Ya know, why are you saying this?

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Post Post #604  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:38 pm

Spoiler: 2F all up my business
In post 43, TwoFace wrote:Why? You need people to distract grey from sr'ing you?


In post 222, TwoFace wrote:
In post 60, Ircher wrote:No one did. Don't be rude.

Really? Then why so serious?


In post 291, TwoFace wrote:
In post 236, Asphodel wrote:I know you're still reading through, but when you're done I'd appreciate an explanation of why you think 110 reads TvT, especially how it makes Grey look town.

Why are you worried about how it makes grey look?


In post 495, TwoFace wrote:naomi definitely is aware of encryptor role as it came up in space mafia

VOTE: naomi


2F sheeps my Naomi push.

In post 531, TwoFace wrote:
In post 529, Gamma Emerald wrote:I mean it's not actually a slip.

I disagree


2F continues pressing the matter.

In post 558, TwoFace wrote:I just don't understand how you just immediately assumed no day talk like that. you as a townie should have/would have considered that we could have an encryptor at play but you didn't seem to consider it.

that looks like a slip to me


2F continues pressing the matter.

In post 548, Gamma Emerald wrote:TF's vote seems more honest than Grey's.
VOTE: Grey


Gamma voting me for a push that 2F has a bigger hard-on over than I do while calling his vote honest.

I'm happy voting either of these two today.
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Post Post #605  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:39 pm

In post 598, Gamma Emerald wrote:You can't be sure of that. Do you have sone superpower that allows you to see alternate timelines?


Read the spoiler in my last post and keep defending your buddy, scum.
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Post Post #606  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:40 pm

Grey whats your read on Ircher currently?

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Post Post #607  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:41 pm

In post 606, Alisae wrote:Grey whats your read on Ircher currently?


Idk, I'm occupied elsewhere.
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Post Post #608  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:43 pm

In post 604, -Grey- wrote:
Spoiler: 2F all up my business
In post 43, TwoFace wrote:Why? You need people to distract grey from sr'ing you?


In post 222, TwoFace wrote:
In post 60, Ircher wrote:No one did. Don't be rude.

Really? Then why so serious?


In post 291, TwoFace wrote:
In post 236, Asphodel wrote:I know you're still reading through, but when you're done I'd appreciate an explanation of why you think 110 reads TvT, especially how it makes Grey look town.

Why are you worried about how it makes grey look?


In post 495, TwoFace wrote:naomi definitely is aware of encryptor role as it came up in space mafia

VOTE: naomi


2F sheeps my Naomi push.

In post 531, TwoFace wrote:
In post 529, Gamma Emerald wrote:I mean it's not actually a slip.

I disagree


2F continues pressing the matter.

In post 558, TwoFace wrote:I just don't understand how you just immediately assumed no day talk like that. you as a townie should have/would have considered that we could have an encryptor at play but you didn't seem to consider it.

that looks like a slip to me


2F continues pressing the matter.

In post 548, Gamma Emerald wrote:TF's vote seems more honest than Grey's.
VOTE: Grey


Gamma voting me for a push that 2F has a bigger hard-on over than I do while calling his vote honest.

I'm happy voting either of these two today.


none of those are actually proof of me up in your business.

thanks for playing.

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Post Post #609  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:43 pm

In post 603, Alisae wrote:
In post 602, Ircher wrote:
In post 601, Alisae wrote:
In post 559, Ircher wrote:
In post 555, Naomi-Tan wrote:
In post 551, Ircher wrote:More buddying and coaching in-thread. Not a good sign after your earlier "slip".


Given that your current white knight POV. why is helping someone a bad thing. given you should be thinking; 'A Red is preventing a green from dying, thats a good thing, I don't need to comment'.

Yeah Just cause people are red reading me right now doesn't mean its gonna stop me helping someone who looks green and looks like they need assistance.

Let them help themselves.
I don't like this. You're trying to discourage town from building a cohesive town to form town led lynches.
In post 573, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 366, Alisae wrote:Qutie frankly I am calm, collected, and tired. Not freaking out. Press my buttons a bit and I can do that.

Either way, your voting is...I believe the right term is wishywashy?
VOTE: TheRealGin-N-Tonic

Dude I miss the evidence for this?
My point with this I don't see why he was voting me at the time if he had bigger scumreads.

You know, Grey said the same thing about me at the beginning of the game except he didn't even try to back it up w/ quotes of any sort.....
Ya know, why are you saying this?

Cuz it's buzzword soup. That's why. Explain how it prevents town cohesion.
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Post Post #610  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:44 pm

ISOed Ircher, he seems pretty town.
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Post Post #611  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:45 pm

the fact that I took time to search naomi's iso to see if she was aware of an encryptor, disproves any sheeping accusation. to sheep means to do so blindly. i clearly didn't blindly sheep you if I actually put in work to find proof.

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Post Post #612  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:48 pm

In post 611, TwoFace wrote:the fact that I took time to search naomi's iso to see if she was aware of an encryptor, disproves any sheeping accusation. to sheep means to do so blindly. i clearly didn't blindly sheep you if I actually put in work to find proof.


Your vote never would have happened without mine. Your push is based in the fact I called her out on her slip and you agreed.

Thank you, please drive through.
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Post Post #613  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:50 pm

In post 609, Ircher wrote:
In post 603, Alisae wrote:
In post 602, Ircher wrote:
In post 601, Alisae wrote:
In post 559, Ircher wrote:
In post 555, Naomi-Tan wrote:
In post 551, Ircher wrote:More buddying and coaching in-thread. Not a good sign after your earlier "slip".


Given that your current white knight POV. why is helping someone a bad thing. given you should be thinking; 'A Red is preventing a green from dying, thats a good thing, I don't need to comment'.

Yeah Just cause people are red reading me right now doesn't mean its gonna stop me helping someone who looks green and looks like they need assistance.

Let them help themselves.
I don't like this. You're trying to discourage town from building a cohesive town to form town led lynches.
In post 573, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 366, Alisae wrote:Qutie frankly I am calm, collected, and tired. Not freaking out. Press my buttons a bit and I can do that.

Either way, your voting is...I believe the right term is wishywashy?
VOTE: TheRealGin-N-Tonic

Dude I miss the evidence for this?
My point with this I don't see why he was voting me at the time if he had bigger scumreads.

You know, Grey said the same thing about me at the beginning of the game except he didn't even try to back it up w/ quotes of any sort.....
Ya know, why are you saying this?

Cuz it's buzzword soup. That's why. Explain how it prevents town cohesion.
2nd quote doesn't. First quote seems as if it's trying to prevent town cohesion because you're going after someone who if scum has more motivation to go after me then defend me. If she hopped on my wagon, I think there would be a huge as fuck wagon on me by this point assuming if scum continued to hop on.
You're saying to defend myself when you saw an example of how I am with pressure. IE not good with it apparently.

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Post Post #614  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:51 pm

In post 612, -Grey- wrote:
In post 611, TwoFace wrote:the fact that I took time to search naomi's iso to see if she was aware of an encryptor, disproves any sheeping accusation. to sheep means to do so blindly. i clearly didn't blindly sheep you if I actually put in work to find proof.


Your vote never would have happened without mine. Your push is based in the fact I called her out on her slip and you agreed.

Thank you, please drive through.

That's bullshit. My vote happened after I searched Naomi's iso for encryptor and saw she was aware it exsists.

That has literally nothing to do with you.

You think I wouldn't have see the day talk comment if you didn't point it out? Bullshit

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Post Post #615  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:53 pm

So when Naomi flips scum, grey is possible buddy. To remove a vote off confirmed scum makes no sense from town pov

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Post Post #616  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:54 pm

In post 607, -Grey- wrote:
In post 606, Alisae wrote:Grey whats your read on Ircher currently?


Idk, I'm occupied elsewhere.

Try anyways.
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Post Post #617  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:55 pm

In post 610, -Grey- wrote:ISOed Ircher, he seems pretty town.

Quotes and explanations.
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Post Post #618  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:55 pm

In post 616, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 607, -Grey- wrote:
In post 606, Alisae wrote:Grey whats your read on Ircher currently?


Idk, I'm occupied elsewhere.

Try anyways.


Piss off, I already answered her.

If you're going to address me, keep the fuck up.
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Post Post #619  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:55 pm

In post 610, -Grey- wrote:ISOed Ircher, he seems pretty town.

Yet you voted him at least twice. This seems fake.

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Post Post #620  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:57 pm

In post 617, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 610, -Grey- wrote:ISOed Ircher, he seems pretty town.

Quotes and explanations.


Nah. I'd rather tell you no so you can justify continuing to avoid 2F for doing what you got all butthurt over me doing.
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Post Post #621  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:57 pm

In post 613, Alisae wrote:
In post 609, Ircher wrote:
In post 603, Alisae wrote:
In post 602, Ircher wrote:
In post 601, Alisae wrote:
In post 559, Ircher wrote:
In post 555, Naomi-Tan wrote:
In post 551, Ircher wrote:More buddying and coaching in-thread. Not a good sign after your earlier "slip".


Given that your current white knight POV. why is helping someone a bad thing. given you should be thinking; 'A Red is preventing a green from dying, thats a good thing, I don't need to comment'.

Yeah Just cause people are red reading me right now doesn't mean its gonna stop me helping someone who looks green and looks like they need assistance.

Let them help themselves.
I don't like this. You're trying to discourage town from building a cohesive town to form town led lynches.
In post 573, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 366, Alisae wrote:Qutie frankly I am calm, collected, and tired. Not freaking out. Press my buttons a bit and I can do that.

Either way, your voting is...I believe the right term is wishywashy?
VOTE: TheRealGin-N-Tonic

Dude I miss the evidence for this?
My point with this I don't see why he was voting me at the time if he had bigger scumreads.

You know, Grey said the same thing about me at the beginning of the game except he didn't even try to back it up w/ quotes of any sort.....
Ya know, why are you saying this?

Cuz it's buzzword soup. That's why. Explain how it prevents town cohesion.
2nd quote doesn't. First quote seems as if it's trying to prevent town cohesion because you're going after someone who if scum has more motivation to go after me then defend me. If she hopped on my wagon, I think there would be a huge as fuck wagon on me by this point assuming if scum continued to hop on.
You're saying to defend myself when you saw an example of how I am with pressure. IE not good with it apparently.

Not necessarily. Scum defend town to gain trust and for I-told-you-so towncred on mislynches they stayed off of.
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Post Post #622  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:58 pm

In post 619, TwoFace wrote:
In post 610, -Grey- wrote:ISOed Ircher, he seems pretty town.

Yet you voted him at least twice. This seems fake.


Yep, I sure did.

At least twice.
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Post Post #623  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:01 pm

In post 620, -Grey- wrote:
In post 617, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 610, -Grey- wrote:ISOed Ircher, he seems pretty town.

Quotes and explanations.


Nah. I'd rather tell you no so you can justify continuing to avoid 2F for doing what you got all butthurt over me doing.

This is not pro-town peeps. The pro-town way would be nutting up and providing, then turning the tables and demanding my explanation. Instead he just whines.
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Post Post #624  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:02 pm

In post 423, Alisae wrote:Going back into one of my previous games just to find something to lynch me on. Ya know, I don't like that.
Have you ever taken into consideration that that was my first game and that I was learning as I was playing the game?
VOTE: All Alone


I did take that into consideration, and in fact that's exactly what I think happened. You came to the conclusion that a townie voting someone they weren't scumreading was a mistake. So when you see Gin making a similar play, I think you saw a townie making a mistake - and decided to try to capitalize on it.

If you're town, how did you "learn" that voting without conviction was scummy? That really doesn't make sense to me.
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