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Post Post #19 (isolation #0) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:37 am

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In post 11, -Grey- wrote:
In post 10, Human Sequencer wrote:Mod, your text is 110% unreadable on mafSilv.
Then use a better theme. I suggest mafBlack.
Grimdark edgelord background?
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Post Post #21 (isolation #1) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:39 am

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In post 16, Naomi-Tan wrote:
In post 10, Human Sequencer wrote:Mod, your text is 110% unreadable on mafSilv. Not sure if you're aware.
VOTE: alisae

PEDIT: UNVOTE:
VOTE: Naomi
So... You having played with me before... Are voting me for the same post I made in the last game where we was both in... colour me confused.
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Post Post #22 (isolation #2) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:40 am

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I expect this game to be rather interesting.
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Post Post #25 (isolation #3) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:48 am

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21 is pointing out you probably haven't played with Naomi.
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Post Post #33 (isolation #4) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:10 am

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I vote for extend.
I prefer the ugly green because I can do rainbow fart reads.
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Post Post #35 (isolation #5) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:31 am

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:igmeou:
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Post Post #37 (isolation #6) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:58 am

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In post 36, -Grey- wrote:
In post 29, XnadrojX wrote:
I will extend 48 hours if enough people vote for it.


I can switch to this colour if enough people vote for it.
The second green is commonly used for reads lists.
Exactly my point for why the ugly green is preferable.
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Post Post #39 (isolation #7) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:04 am

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What? Did the use of the word "ugly" become a scumtell?
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Post Post #42 (isolation #8) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:20 am

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In post 40, -Grey- wrote:
In post 39, Gamma Emerald wrote:What? Did the use of the word "ugly" become a scumtell?
See? His guilty scum mind confesses in his confusion!

Surprised by my quick deduction that he is scum, he questions how I caught him.
No, that's no slip. I'm asking if "ugly" is said more by town than scum.
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Post Post #44 (isolation #9) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:27 am

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Nah, I want DISCUSSION! People need to talk!
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Post Post #64 (isolation #10) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:09 am

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In post 54, Ircher wrote:
In post 12, -Grey- wrote:
In post 8, Naomi-Tan wrote:Normally I do this a little later but im up and wanna talk and like keeping this at my second ISO post so. For those who know this post feel free to skip it yadda yadda.
Hi, I'm Naomi I have kinda a strange play style. Firstly Rather than calling people town or Scum I call them Green or Red This is because Its just a nicer thing to call people. I dislike calling people scum as its kinda mean so I switched to the color thing and it appears to have caught on rather well in other games I've been in. Thats not so major. but Its a good thing to note.

Okay so onto the bulk of stuff. My playstyle Is kinda weird. I don't like dying as either alignment and try to stay alive. this means that sometimes I do actions to just look more green and sometimes and Im suspectable to peer pressure. To midigate this I tend to play entirely openly and honestly examining things and doing what I can to contribute to town. But things like Lamist actions are things I tend to do as both alignments. If anyone wants to read my town meta feel free to explore my wiki page (ordered chronologically with my most recent games at the bottom of either list) But this is a quick overview to protect my butt from future Red efforts (as they can push me on; Look there doing that thing thats normally red but isn't for them) and so Greens don't push me for being me. I also am probably forgetting somethings. As i'm sleepy
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In post 21, Naomi-Tan wrote:Okay Well did earlier than I like to do. (as I like to make this post as my second post and I have something to comment on so... wanna do my second post followed by the comment). So... here we go.

Hello Everyone!, For those who know my play style this will be my normal meta post so... feel free to skip. For everyone else... time to write :D hiya, I'm naomi and I have a very strange play style. Starting with a quirk; I call town Green and Mafia Reds I've only recently started doing this and I do slip up on this from time to time. So... going forward bare this in mind.

Now. my Green play style is what I was talking about when I said I have a strange style. I tend to do smaller posts throughout with bigger posts on occasion day 1 I like to do bigger read lists and iso's and stuff but it normally becomes unsustainable. This alone isn't strange

The strangeness starts now. I also fear death, So.. It warps my views and sometimes I do things just to get people off me. This can easily be miss read as a Red!tell but Thats just kinda how I am. It also leads me to have a LAMIST kinda playstyle pointing things out and I'm also not very good at the game and sometimes when I notice something that looks sorta suspicious but I dunno what to do with it I'll just kinda draw attention to it and flag people into examining it on my behalf as I couldn't draw a conclusion.

I do try to be fair and try to think about things from others points of views simulating in my head if something is more likely to be a Green move or a Red move and I tend to post that kinda thing. But.... It sometimes leads me to just null conculsions or just leads no where... its kinda a thing.

I am also aware that people see these kinda posts and go; Self meta BS. when I've been doing them there are generally 3 pools of people. those who believe me, those who played with me, and those who don't. If your currently falling in the last group of players feel free to browse my wiki, I post every game I've completed in it and it can be a good source for you to confirm this information. of course most of you won't.. but that just tends to be how it is.

Finally though my account is an older one I have only played a small pool of games as I took around about a year and a half break between two of my games only starting steadily again this year. So.. though I'm an older account I lack the experience and skill of many of my contemporaries.

So.. yeah.. thats pretty much all you need to know to get a good read on myself and... yeah lets get to that post I wanted to make.


TL;DR> She posts this stuff as town. Save your RVS votes for Gamma.
How do you know with such little experience on this site? I mean, experience != skill, but it's kinda hard you can already read a player based off a single post being only a month on the site.
Grey's a bit of a poser. Either that or he's an alt. :P
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Post Post #66 (isolation #11) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:18 am

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In post 65, Ircher wrote:....Gamma, you are already a JOAT?! How many games have you played?
Dozens. Go to my wiki. There's also ones I've failed to complete.
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Post Post #77 (isolation #12) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:57 am

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Yo cut the chainsaw PAL.
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Post Post #79 (isolation #13) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:59 am

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VOTE: Ircher
This dude REALLY seems to want on my good side.
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Post Post #86 (isolation #14) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:05 am

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In post 32, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 28, Gamma Emerald wrote:What
I've seen naked votes called scummy before.
WHAT IS THE SITE META ON THIS ISSUE?
"How do I look town?"
BTW this is an example of town doing what Grey did.
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Post Post #88 (isolation #15) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:08 am

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Said I was scum for my confusion about what was scummy in my post.
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Post Post #93 (isolation #16) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:15 am

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I'm not seeing the type of discussion I want.
Maybe the inactives will provide.
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Post Post #106 (isolation #17) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:26 am

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In post 76, Ircher wrote:I think the Gamma case is relevant right now. Now, please kindly share w/ the rest of the game as I don't see it.

Pedit: It's neutral at worse, pro-town at best. Yes, stagnation is a problem and why deadlines exist, but a bigger problem imo are deadline lynch scrambles. You never know until that point, but I'd say it's better safe than sorry.

Pedit2:
Scumreads: Grey, Human Sequencer right now.
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Post Post #109 (isolation #18) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:41 am

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mkay
Only a certain type of person can provide what I desire rn
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Post Post #119 (isolation #19) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:52 am

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=68600
Just going to leave this here. Everyone should read up to page 5.
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Post Post #124 (isolation #20) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:10 am

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Everyone please follow tge instructions in post 119.
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Post Post #134 (isolation #21) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:36 am

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Some people are obviously not being good little townies, I can tell already.
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Post Post #136 (isolation #22) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:38 am

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I don't think Asphodel is a bad townie.
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Post Post #140 (isolation #23) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:41 am

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In post 138, Asphodel wrote:
In post 136, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don't think Asphodel is a bad townie.
Cool, but who do you think is scum?
Ircher currently. Btw not-bad townie =/= town.
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Post Post #142 (isolation #24) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:43 am

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Current ideas for bad little townies are Grey, HS, and Alisae.
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Post Post #145 (isolation #25) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:45 am

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In post 144, Human Sequencer wrote:@gamma
Lol.
I have done nothing but intently scumhunt.
Nice discredit.
I'm not calling you scum. I just wonder if there's something you need to get off your chest.
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Post Post #150 (isolation #26) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:49 am

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In post 147, Human Sequencer wrote:I know you're not calling me scum. You're calling me a bad townie, implying that my reads are bad and that I don't know what I'm doing. Which is interesting, considering I'm scumreading you for reasons I clearly have and simply haven't posted yet.
Even if you're town, you can't know if my read on you is bad because I haven't posted it yet. How am I a 'bad townie'? It could be read as scum scared of a competent townie trying to discredit their reads early on.
It's not your reads I'm calling bad, I'm not even sure if you ARE a bad townie yet. I think you may be unaware of something very important.
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Post Post #163 (isolation #27) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:59 am

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GinNTonic could be a bad townie too.
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Post Post #181 (isolation #28) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:50 am

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Rainbowdash and krylea should post soon.
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Post Post #185 (isolation #29) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:07 am

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In post 182, Human Sequencer wrote:Yes Grey, I see your point, but I'm still trying to split the difference between badIrcher and scumIrcher. Leaning towards badIrcher atm.

Gamma looks worse and worse. He doesn't even address my concerns in his follow up posts, only calls the two inactives to action. I would assume that's to drag heat off of him.
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Post Post #238 (isolation #30) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:00 pm

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In post 237, Naomi-Tan wrote:
In post 119, Gamma Emerald wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=68600
Just going to leave this here. Everyone should read up to page 5.
Sorry I do not read other posts about Meta had picked from a game selection as it can lead to meta manipulation. this is also why my source for self meta is my Wiki page with all my mafia games as You can't fake your meta in every matchup. If that makes sense.

I am making a read list along side my readup now To post so people know my reads.
I'm not telling you to meta me. I'm telling you to read the first 5 pages as I feel it is relevant.
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Post Post #255 (isolation #31) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:36 pm

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In post 253, TwoFace wrote:
In post 119, Gamma Emerald wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=68600
Just going to leave this here. Everyone should read up to page 5.
Wtf
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Post Post #258 (isolation #32) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:38 pm

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In post 256, TwoFace wrote:
In post 136, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don't think Asphodel is a bad townie.
Agreed
Scum or good townie then?
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Post Post #260 (isolation #33) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:38 pm

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In post 257, TwoFace wrote:
In post 255, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 253, TwoFace wrote:
In post 119, Gamma Emerald wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=68600
Just going to leave this here. Everyone should read up to page 5.
Wtf
Do as I say.
I don't even like to read the games I play. Certainly don't want to read some other game.
First 5 pages or I power wagon you.
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Post Post #262 (isolation #34) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:39 pm

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VOTE: TwoFace
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Post Post #272 (isolation #35) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:58 pm

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In post 270, Naomi-Tan wrote:Hey TF. Isn't it funny how we both have 2 people we think might be red and are looking for the third with no overlap xD
What does this mean?
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Post Post #281 (isolation #36) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:05 pm

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In post 279, Alisae wrote:BTW Naomi do you think your weak scum read on TwoFace could come from him trying to be lynch bait or something?
Why do you keep asking this?
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Post Post #293 (isolation #37) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:18 pm

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In post 289, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 242, Asphodel wrote:
In post 229, Flubbernugget wrote:VOTE: asohodel

I don't like how little thought he puts into trying to reach out to people. It sticks out like a sore thumb. Also somone pointed out some good contradictions in 195.

I feel like these should be reversed.
You're conflating thought with the number of posts in thread

My scum read becomes greater
Feels like posturing with the phrasing.
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Post Post #306 (isolation #38) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:45 pm

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In post 305, Alisae wrote:Is there anything wrong with me not wanting to get on the wrong wagon?
It seems you are hedging your bet to me, though.
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Post Post #328 (isolation #39) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:27 pm

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krylea is left.
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Post Post #334 (isolation #40) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:49 pm

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119 is not self meta. Read the first five pages. If you are a good townie you'll know what my demands are.
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Post Post #337 (isolation #41) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:52 pm

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In post 335, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 332, -Grey- wrote:Alisae needs more votes.

I found me a cautious scum.
I'm actually going to second this motion and will hop on that Oregon Trail wagon


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P-Edit: I ain't reading shit that's not related to this game. Now you can go ahead and tell me what you're after but you're going to explain that here. I ain't your damn lapdog.
I can't say why but it is game related.
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Post Post #339 (isolation #42) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:55 pm

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I'll start scumhunting once I get what I want.
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Post Post #368 (isolation #43) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:57 pm

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VOTE: Alisae
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Post Post #396 (isolation #44) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:23 pm

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In post 395, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Oh and UNVOTE: because I never go to sleep holding a vote.
That's rather foolish as it artificially deflates wagons.
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Post Post #398 (isolation #45) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:43 pm

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Okay don't attack him for his playstyle. You just set my scumdar off big time.
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Post Post #401 (isolation #46) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:09 pm

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Alisae is still scum for trying to twist his playstyle as scummy.
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Post Post #403 (isolation #47) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:12 pm

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In post 368, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Alisae
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Post Post #413 (isolation #48) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:46 pm

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In post 412, Naomi-Tan wrote:
In post 398, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay don't attack him for his playstyle. You just set my scumdar off big time.
What's the point of the blank quote?
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Post Post #416 (isolation #49) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:50 pm

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Bad townie will make sense soon.
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Post Post #417 (isolation #50) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:51 pm

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Yeah just because I'm defending him doesn't make me scum with him.
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Post Post #419 (isolation #51) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:56 pm

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Gin's a classic.
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Post Post #421 (isolation #52) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:07 am

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In post 397, Alisae wrote:
In post 396, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 395, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Oh and UNVOTE: because I never go to sleep holding a vote.
That's rather foolish as it artificially deflates wagons.
Once again, no real conviction in his voting. To him it honestly doesn't matter.
Instead of understanding his playstyle, she prefers to push her narrative of Gin's actions. Scum.
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Post Post #425 (isolation #53) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:16 am

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@Naomi: I'll explain once I see what I am looking for. Pushing me will just piss me off.
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Post Post #430 (isolation #54) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:33 am

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Grey's vote on me wasn't super serious I think
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Post Post #431 (isolation #55) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:35 am

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In post 421, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 397, Alisae wrote:
In post 396, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 395, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Oh and UNVOTE: because I never go to sleep holding a vote.
That's rather foolish as it artificially deflates wagons.
Once again, no real conviction in his voting. To him it honestly doesn't matter.
Instead of understanding his playstyle, she prefers to push her narrative of Gin's actions. Scum.
What town decides to respond to a constructive post (mine) like this? It's trying to twist his action as scummy.
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Post Post #434 (isolation #56) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:41 am

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In post 432, Naomi-Tan wrote:
In post 431, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 421, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 397, Alisae wrote:
In post 396, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 395, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Oh and UNVOTE: because I never go to sleep holding a vote.
That's rather foolish as it artificially deflates wagons.
Once again, no real conviction in his voting. To him it honestly doesn't matter.
Instead of understanding his playstyle, she prefers to push her narrative of Gin's actions. Scum.
What town decides to respond to a constructive post (mine) like this? It's trying to twist his action as scummy.
okay when your flustered and confirm baising people you do, do stuff like that. also I'm pretty sure the reason she quoted your post there was to try and convince you to assist her.
Well there was no way I was assisting, I felt his action was just a bit poorly decided, and not indicative of scum. I'll look back over Alisae.
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Post Post #435 (isolation #57) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:43 am

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Yeah I think Ali might be town.
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Post Post #436 (isolation #58) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:44 am

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However I still think GNT is not scummy.
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Post Post #440 (isolation #59) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:55 am

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In post 438, Naomi-Tan wrote:Gamma; Yeah I thought you'd do that.
Are you calling my reconsideration red-indicative?
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Post Post #441 (isolation #60) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:55 am

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That's kinda fun to type tbh
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Post Post #443 (isolation #61) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:00 am

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what makes you think you know my personality
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Post Post #446 (isolation #62) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:27 am

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Thing is, when I want to be, I can be a tinfoil hat kind of guy. I had a quote where my tinfoil hat antics got me townread in my sig at one point.
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Post Post #521 (isolation #63) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:52 am

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In post 489, -Grey- wrote:
In post 488, Naomi-Tan wrote:
In post 483, -Grey- wrote:
In post 482, Naomi-Tan wrote:given that Reds have no day talk
How do you know this?
its not in the rules so Im assuming.
"given" is not an assumption, it's a statement of fact.

VOTE: Naomi

You slipped hard.
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Post Post #523 (isolation #64) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:55 am

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At least one of Grey and TF is scum.
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Post Post #525 (isolation #65) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:00 am

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The way both hopped on based on a non-existent slip is very scummy, but I'm not sure scum would group their votes so close.
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I mean it's not actually a slip.
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Post Post #533 (isolation #67) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:08 am

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In post 530, Human Sequencer wrote:scumGamma doesn't interact with the people who scumread him, like I am right now. He flakes. ISO him in micro 665 (on my wiki) for more information.
How about you give me time to interact instead of trying to make my play look like shit.
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Post Post #537 (isolation #68) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:11 am

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Well I don't care: you obviously have some form of chip on your shoulder, whether your town or scum is still to be determined.
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Post Post #543 (isolation #69) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:19 am

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Subject: Mini Normal 1841 - At The End... (GAME OVER)
Dunnstral wrote:scum have an encryptor
This is past experience with daytalk spec. My reaction was not to go "scumslip you know too much", it was to question the statement and see if it came from scum.
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so that's how you get the autolinked topics
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Post Post #548 (isolation #71) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:28 am

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TF's vote seems more honest than Grey's.
VOTE: Grey
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Post Post #564 (isolation #72) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:03 am

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Once krylea seems caught up enough you all will know what the fuck my deal has been this game.
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Post Post #565 (isolation #73) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:04 am

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NaomiTan confirmed VictorDeAngelo alt???????
He made the same "blue" mistake you did, but was referring to PRs.
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Post Post #570 (isolation #74) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:06 am

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In post 567, TwoFace wrote:
In post 565, Gamma Emerald wrote:NaomiTan confirmed VictorDeAngelo alt???????
He made the same "blue" mistake you did, but was referring to PRs.
Having played with both, don't see similarities in play style
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Post Post #571 (isolation #75) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:06 am

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In post 569, Ircher wrote:
In post 564, Gamma Emerald wrote:Once krylea seems caught up enough you all will know what the fuck my deal has been this game.
Just tell us already.
Keeping it secret is just so stupid.
I'm hoping I can get a locktown read out of it first.
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Post Post #589 (isolation #76) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:13 am

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In post 588, -Grey- wrote:So, Gamma is voting me for voting Naomi over a slip, but completely ignoring 2F who is not only sheeping my push but advancing with it after Gamma stated in thread that he doesn't believe it's a slip.

Town Gamma would have picked up on 2F continuing to push what he considers a non-slip and voted him.

Possible Gamma/2F team. (I read 2F as possible scum for other reasons)

VOTE: Gamma
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Post Post #592 (isolation #77) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:23 am

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In post 590, -Grey- wrote:
In post 589, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 588, -Grey- wrote:So, Gamma is voting me for voting Naomi over a slip, but completely ignoring 2F who is not only sheeping my push but advancing with it after Gamma stated in thread that he doesn't believe it's a slip.

Town Gamma would have picked up on 2F continuing to push what he considers a non-slip and voted him.

Possible Gamma/2F team. (I read 2F as possible scum for other reasons)

VOTE: Gamma
I acknowledged his vote and stated why I don't SR it when I voted you.
And it's full of shit because he continued pushing her for the slip after you whined about it not being one and I hadn't even been posting.

You're dodging him and voting me even though he's the one actively pushing.
His vote comes from the fact she knew about encryptors from another game.
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Post Post #598 (isolation #78) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:29 am

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In post 596, -Grey- wrote:
In post 592, Gamma Emerald wrote:His vote comes from the fact she knew about encryptors from another game.
His vote came from the fact I pushed Naomi on her slip. If I hadn't, he'd have never made that post about encryptor in the first place.

Hair splitting only makes me scumread you harder
You can't be sure of that. Do you have sone superpower that allows you to see alternate timelines?
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Post Post #616 (isolation #79) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:54 am

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In post 607, -Grey- wrote:
In post 606, Alisae wrote:Grey whats your read on Ircher currently?
Idk, I'm occupied elsewhere.
Try anyways.
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Post Post #617 (isolation #80) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:55 am

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In post 610, -Grey- wrote:ISOed Ircher, he seems pretty town.
Quotes and explanations.
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Post Post #623 (isolation #81) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:01 am

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In post 620, -Grey- wrote:
In post 617, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 610, -Grey- wrote:ISOed Ircher, he seems pretty town.
Quotes and explanations.
Nah. I'd rather tell you no so you can justify continuing to avoid 2F for doing what you got all butthurt over me doing.
This is not pro-town peeps. The pro-town way would be nutting up and providing, then turning the tables and demanding my explanation. Instead he just whines.
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Post Post #629 (isolation #82) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:07 am

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In post 625, Alisae wrote:
In post 623, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 620, -Grey- wrote:
In post 617, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 610, -Grey- wrote:ISOed Ircher, he seems pretty town.
Quotes and explanations.
Nah. I'd rather tell you no so you can justify continuing to avoid 2F for doing what you got all butthurt over me doing.
This is not pro-town peeps. The pro-town way would be nutting up and providing, then turning the tables and demanding my explanation. Instead he just whines.
Grey has had this attitude the whole game. I don't like it.
But if you're pushing based on that kind of attitude, It's not working.
Gamma why do you think he is scum?
His push on Naomi, as well as his little "no u" moment he just had. Not explaining your reads suggests they are fake.
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Post Post #652 (isolation #83) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:38 am

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In post 645, -Grey- wrote:Gamma, if you're town then you should know this is my Newbie 1762 play.

That's all I'm going to offer you in way of an explanation.

2F, you don't deserve one because your push is just plain ol' butthurt.
I don't care about your meta. I hate people who hold their play to a low standard.
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Post Post #661 (isolation #84) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:44 am

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In post 654, -Grey- wrote:
In post 652, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 645, -Grey- wrote:Gamma, if you're town then you should know this is my Newbie 1762 play.

That's all I'm going to offer you in way of an explanation.

2F, you don't deserve one because your push is just plain ol' butthurt.
I don't care about your meta. I hate people who hold their play to a low standard.
Don't ask others to read yours if you won't return the favor.
I'm not asking people to meta me. If it's about the link, remember I said first 5 pages.
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Post Post #668 (isolation #85) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:50 am

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Fine. I REALLY WANTED to get a hard townread out of this, but since no one knows proper play I have to be the IC of this game.
I am an Ascetic Enabler. I was hoping Ascetics would come forward and claim so I could have townreads to start with. The proper play with the Ascetic modifier is to claim in your first post or so. However, no one seems to get that, so I decided to go hamfisted and link to the last game I played with an Ascetic. STILL no one got it, mostly because no one bothered to read it. So I now have to fucking depants before I can use my role info to find town.
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Post Post #684 (isolation #86) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:14 am

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If I asked people to read my ISO a cop soft guess would have made sense. However, I said to read the first 5 pages as there was some Ascetic talk there and I felt anyone who was new and was Ascetic needed to see the proper play in action.
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Post Post #689 (isolation #87) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:39 am

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LOL another player with no sense of bastardry huh
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Post Post #691 (isolation #88) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:42 am

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One person thought 2 town Ascetics was bastard
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Post Post #694 (isolation #89) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:44 am

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tbh We should scumhunt today then once deadline rolls around we lynch me so the Ascetics lose their modifier
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Post Post #749 (isolation #90) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:43 pm

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@Rainbowdash: I didn't consider that. I'm used to Ascetic Townies.
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Post Post #764 (isolation #91) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:13 pm

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In post 758, Ircher wrote:
In post 727, Alisae wrote:I think I need to explain how Grey fucked up.

He called Naomi's thing a "Slip." but was that a slip? No, it wasn't.
Scum like to push slips. They like to have a justified vote.
So thats why my tell on Grey works.
That tell works just about as well as all the other scumtells.
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Post Post #771 (isolation #92) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:18 pm

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In post 765, Rainbowdash wrote:
In post 745, TwoFace wrote:If somebody said "scum probably have day talk" would that be a slip?
I would be far more concerned about that one. We speak in declaratives quite a bit, such as "Grey is scum".
In post 747, Flubbernugget wrote:What do you think about Ircher saying that being pr confirmed ascetic with no claim is an auto lynch?
That bothers me a little, but I still have a fairly solid town read on him. However
In post 748, -Grey- wrote:Since Gamma claimed Ascetic Enabler, any "no results" results should be insta-lynched because the ascetic(s) is/are scum hiding behind the role.
Grey is still pushing it without addressing my post about why this logic is bad and my case on him. Can we really lynch him at this point?
-Grey- wrote:Negative utility always claims straight out the gate. You should be experienced enough to know that.
No they don't. The only role that I can see as the justifiable D1 claim out the gate is PGO, otherwise you help scum. Plus Ascetic is not necessarily negative utility. You will learn that with experience.
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Post Post #774 (isolation #93) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:19 pm

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In post 767, -Grey- wrote:
In post 764, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 758, Ircher wrote:
In post 727, Alisae wrote:I think I need to explain how Grey fucked up.

He called Naomi's thing a "Slip." but was that a slip? No, it wasn't.
Scum like to push slips. They like to have a justified vote.
So thats why my tell on Grey works.
That tell works just about as well as all the other scumtells.
Are you in cahoots with Skold?
What's your opinion of my theory that any ascetics are scum?
It's terrible. There's likely ascetics in both alignments.
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Post Post #776 (isolation #94) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:20 pm

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In post 770, TwoFace wrote:Ascetic isn't listed as a negative utility role but enabler is. That's weird.
Where?
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Post Post #780 (isolation #95) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:31 pm

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Miller can exist without a cop
Just like a Deputy without a Cop
It's a Named Townie essentially
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Post Post #811 (isolation #96) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:23 pm

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In post 783, Alisae wrote:
In post 782, -Grey- wrote:
In post 781, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I'd vote Grey but I'm going to sleep in an an hour or two so it'd be a waste but expect it when I wake up.
Be a fucking man and vote me. This shit doesn't make you look town.
A. I agree.
B. He's new.
I was going to rant about how much better this was, but I'll go for a calm "thank you for acknowledging his playstyle this time".
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Post Post #817 (isolation #97) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:29 pm

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I don't believe the claim for a second. Even then, optimal play IMO is to lynch me, and let the town PRs do their work tonight.
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Post Post #818 (isolation #98) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:29 pm

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VOTE: Gamma Emerald
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Post Post #821 (isolation #99) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:32 pm

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I don't want any more claims today. I am advocating a lynch on myself so Town PRs can operate without the threat of Ascetics.
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Post Post #822 (isolation #100) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:33 pm

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In post 820, -Grey- wrote:
In post 817, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don't believe the claim for a second. Even then, optimal play IMO is to lynch me, and let the town PRs do their work tonight.
I disagree. Optimal play is to lynch any ascetic results since town ascetics should have claimed by now.

Dead town hurts town. Period. You're town. Stop hurting town.
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Post Post #824 (isolation #101) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:36 pm

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In post 823, -Grey- wrote:
In post 821, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don't want any more claims today. I am advocating a lynch on myself so Town PRs can operate without the threat of Ascetics.
What happens if there's a backup enabler? You died for nothing.

Stop being stupid.
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Post Post #827 (isolation #102) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:40 pm

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Where did the backup concern come from?
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Post Post #834 (isolation #103) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:12 pm

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In post 833, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I've never played with these roles before but a back up enabler sounds like a really big stretch
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Post Post #836 (isolation #104) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:20 pm

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@Grey: why did you feel the need to crumb your role like you did?
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Post Post #865 (isolation #105) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:51 am

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I think I have my head out of my ass now. I think optimal play is to leave me alive, AND NO ASCETIC CLAIMS.
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Post Post #867 (isolation #106) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:56 am

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No, Naomi is town.
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Post Post #868 (isolation #107) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:56 am

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The reason I am 180ing is because I have a plan for seeing if Grey is really a cop.
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Post Post #870 (isolation #108) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:15 am

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In post 869, TwoFace wrote:
In post 867, Gamma Emerald wrote:No, Naomi is town.
why?
I still feel at least one scum jumped on that wagon for the supposed slip. Still think it is Grey but for now I'd rather hunt somewhere else.
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Post Post #872 (isolation #109) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:30 am

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Possibly, but I saw some genuine questioning there so I'm not sure.
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Post Post #878 (isolation #110) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:16 am

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No Result is an interesting case, and the reason I suggest we not lynch me.
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Post Post #881 (isolation #111) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:22 am

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In post 880, Ircher wrote:
In post 865, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think I have my head out of my ass now. I think optimal play is to leave me alive, AND NO ASCETIC CLAIMS.
No, the ascetics need to claim if they exist.
NO. ASCETIC CLAIMS AT THIS POINT ARE ANTITOWN.
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Post Post #890 (isolation #112) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:36 am

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I have a plan, and outting it doesn't ruin it. Should I state my plan?
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Post Post #895 (isolation #113) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:43 am

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In post 892, Ircher wrote:How many assumptions does the plan make?
One: nothing to interfere with it.
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Post Post #897 (isolation #114) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:47 am

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I think it's best to state my plan.
No ascetics claim. If Grey claims a result on an ascetic he gets lynched.
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Post Post #903 (isolation #115) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:09 am

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In post 899, -Grey- wrote:
In post 897, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think it's best to state my plan.
No ascetics claim. If Grey claims a result on an ascetic he gets lynched.
All scum has to do if I get a guilty is claim to be ascetic.

That's brilliant.

No. Guilty claims need to be lynched, period. If the guilty flips town, then obviously I'm scum.
Good point there. Inno claims on Ascetics equal autolynch on Grey. Guilties that claim Ascetic get lynched.
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Post Post #908 (isolation #116) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:16 am

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In post 905, Ircher wrote:But Grey's town anyway. I know I'm town. I think Gamma is scum still with a red herring role. And, I could lynch Asphodel or TwoFace rn.
Why would scum have a red herring role? This suspicion of me seems unfounded.
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Post Post #914 (isolation #117) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:24 am

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It makes no sense for scum to have a role like mine. It's not as balanced as town having it. Scum having it means scum loses a member and a source of confusion at the same time.
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Post Post #918 (isolation #118) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:26 am

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In post 916, Ircher wrote:Still think its a red herring and therefore a scum role.

Pedit: No more claims. Scum fakeclaim all day long. In the small chance we lynch a PR, well, so be it.
That's stupid. Red herring roles are ALMOST ALWAYS town.
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Post Post #933 (isolation #119) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:38 am

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Town wouldn't believe my claim and think I'm scum. It's not close to balanced if that's the case.
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Post Post #944 (isolation #120) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:45 am

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AE =/= RB.
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Post Post #952 (isolation #121) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:51 am

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Ircher, didn't you JUST SAY my role is a red herring?
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Post Post #962 (isolation #122) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:09 am

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Also, explain my play if I'm scum, regardless of red herrings.
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Post Post #973 (isolation #123) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:32 am

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In post 962, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also, explain my play if I'm scum, regardless of red herrings.
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Post Post #990 (isolation #124) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:10 pm

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In post 973, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 962, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also, explain my play if I'm scum, regardless of red herrings.
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Post Post #1013 (isolation #125) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:05 pm

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Ali your avvie is an eyesore
I liked the old one
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Post Post #1014 (isolation #126) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:05 pm

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In post 990, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 973, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 962, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also, explain my play if I'm scum, regardless of red herrings.
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Post Post #1019 (isolation #127) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:11 pm

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In post 1014, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 990, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 973, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 962, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also, explain my play if I'm scum, regardless of red herrings.
@Ircher
To elaborate: why would I try to find town using my role if I was scum?
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Post Post #1030 (isolation #128) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:30 pm

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Yo jackass, address my damn question
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Post Post #1032 (isolation #129) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:32 pm

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No I want a full assessment of my play, not from X post.
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Post Post #1036 (isolation #130) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:44 pm

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I read: look at my early play again, see how I try to find town based on my role. In NO UNIVERSE does scum use their role to townhunt like I did.
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Post Post #1049 (isolation #131) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:38 pm

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@Rainbow: if you believe me about my claim Ircher should be scummy to you.
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Post Post #1054 (isolation #132) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:51 pm

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In post 1051, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I almost want to say Ircher supersaturates my scumdar to the point where he does a full circle around the meter and is back to being townie.
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Post Post #1061 (isolation #133) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:03 pm

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If you see him as VT, don't vote for him (unless that's not what you believe).
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Post Post #1064 (isolation #134) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:09 pm

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Like, I personally have an issue since we have BOTH Ascetics and Millers.
Also, RD should not have claimed FOR THE EXACT SAME REASONS Ascetics should not.
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Post Post #1065 (isolation #135) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:09 pm

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In post 1063, Human Sequencer wrote:Ircher is town. Don't run up Ircher. Don't wagon Ircher. Ircher is town.
I'm also willing to believe that Gamma and Grey are town, if the answer to this is yes:
Grey, are you an ascetic cop? I have reason to believe you have motivation for not mentioning it earlier.
Edit: I realize RainbowDash may be on the same trail with
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Grey, my question stands.

I'm glad Alisae swapped her avatar back.

Gin is town on reread and for post . I doubt scumGin would care enough to pay attention to anybody's posting patterns, where as a good little townie is very interested in when and where he gets information from.
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Post Post #1066 (isolation #136) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:10 pm

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HS just became EXTREMELY scummy for trying to fish.
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Post Post #1069 (isolation #137) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:12 pm

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In post 1068, Human Sequencer wrote:If the answer is yes we have three confirmed townies on day 1 (four if you count me for outting it).
Not answering will be taken as a no.
OUTING THAT IS NOT TOWNY YOU IDIOT
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Post Post #1074 (isolation #138) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:13 pm

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THANK GOD
I DON'T HAVE TO TAKE A DIVE
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Post Post #1082 (isolation #139) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:22 pm

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OH
THAT'S VERY INTERESTING
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Post Post #1091 (isolation #140) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:30 pm

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Why do people think onle ONE ascetic can exist? I'm p sure there's more.
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Post Post #1101 (isolation #141) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:35 pm

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In post 1099, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1096, krylea wrote:
In post 1086, Human Sequencer wrote:Grey didn't switch anything up. Grey posted that he -was- leaving something out. His story is consistent start to finish.
No it isn't. Grey clearly implied that the missing piece of his role had some natural connection with another player - he specifically mentioned a counterpart. X-shot does not have a natural connection with another player, unless he is
still leaving things out
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X-shot = crippled investigative = suggestive of second investigative role

You can die d2.
I actually had this thought. I played a game with cop + deputy once.
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Post Post #1107 (isolation #142) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:39 pm

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Hold up
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Post Post #1139 (isolation #143) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:16 pm

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Hold up: WHY DIDN'T RD CLAIM IN HER FIRST POST?
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Post Post #1144 (isolation #144) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:48 pm

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In post 1140, Rainbowdash wrote:@Gamma

Because its improper play to claim as a miller in your first post. Meta that one me all you want, its the wrong move to claim miller in your first post.
In post 779, Rainbowdash wrote:You need to not only have a cop in the game but they also need to target you. Its far more of a risk, but by claiming miller you basically say to the scum "by the way there is a cop in this game". Even if you want to say both players survive two cycles, you are at about 80% chance not to be investigated. Especially in a large game, I think you can get away without a miller claim, even more if you leave some sort of a "Hey look at me, im a miller and this is a convenient breadcrumb" type post.
Why would I tell scum that there probably is a cop in the game in my first post to decrease a very small chance of being investigated to zero?
WHY IS IT ANTITOWN TO CLAIM MILLER FIRST POST. THAT'S ASS FUCKING BACKWARDS. AND I THOUGHT I WAS SURROUNDED BY IDIOTS BECAUSE NO ONE WAS CLAIMING ASCETIC.
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Post Post #1145 (isolation #145) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:50 pm

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Here's the deal.
Claiming Miller first post means scum can't fakeclaim miller under cop investigation.
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Post Post #1147 (isolation #146) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 8:00 pm

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I'm with AA here: the Miller claim goes against my role AND standard Miller play.
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Post Post #1151 (isolation #147) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 8:03 pm

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Wheeee looks like someone has decided to board Ircher idiot train (would use the real quote but mafia slang makes it awkward).
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Post Post #1152 (isolation #148) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 8:04 pm

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In post 1149, Rainbowdash wrote:I want each player voting me to state that no matter WHAT Grey claims D2 you lynch him. If he claims a guilty. You lynch him. If he claims and inno. You lynch him. If he claims he got Ascetic. You lynch him.
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Post Post #1156 (isolation #149) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:06 pm

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I pride myself on my godlike scumfinding skills.
Also, RD's play makes NO SENSE from a town POV. I was worried about the VC but now:
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Post Post #1164 (isolation #150) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:35 pm

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you read that wrong
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Post Post #1166 (isolation #151) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:56 pm

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Why would scum not want the Ascetics to claim, you read why would scum claim Ascetic
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Post Post #1535 (isolation #152) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:42 am

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What on earth, why didn't RD flip?
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Post Post #1540 (isolation #153) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:03 am

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Why?
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Post Post #1557 (isolation #154) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:43 am

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BTW did Ircher claim?
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Post Post #1576 (isolation #155) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:49 pm

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In post 1461, Alisae wrote:Either way, Grey, if you want to share you who are planning to investigate, go ahead. But always include multiple names (no more then 3, no less then 3). And put some on there that you don't plan on investigating. It'll be good for knowing what kind of reactions you'll get. And if you get RB'd by a scum!rb, that's also a reaction.

And yes Grey, we know you're psychic and we love you, but that's a bullshit answer to that question and you know it cuz scum could have a roleblocker.
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Post Post #1579 (isolation #156) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:55 pm

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Grey did you target Ircher?
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Post Post #1581 (isolation #157) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:58 pm

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Who then?
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Post Post #1584 (isolation #158) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:07 pm

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Looking at Grey's case on Gin I think Gin may be scum. A post Grey quoted gave me a "ick" feel looking back.
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Post Post #1660 (isolation #159) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:56 am

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In post 1610, Alisae wrote:Actually, ya know what. I really don't like you.
Challenge: All Alone
Is this real?
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Post Post #1662 (isolation #160) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:58 am

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In post 1612, Human Sequencer wrote:
In post 1608, Alisae wrote:Actually, why didn't Krylea claim?
And who did she try to kill N1? Grey?
I assume there's two possibilities for what happened night 1.
1. Both SK and Mafia nightkilled Ircher.
2. SK nightkilled Ircher, Mafia was blocked trying to nightkill Grey by Ircher.

I'm 120% fine sheeping All Alone for now, considering how obvtown he is. With that in mind, I'll park my vote on TwoFace while I try and get around to sifting through this game.
Please don't fuggin hammer while I'm away again lmao.
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I'm kinda surprised Grey flipped 2-shot, I was truly expecting him to be a VT drawing the nk. I suppose that wouldn't explain his conviction vs. Dash, though.

Alisae, could you elaborate on your AA read?
Why is AA town to you?
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Post Post #1663 (isolation #161) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:58 am

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In post 1613, Human Sequencer wrote:AA's hammer is towny as fuck unless he as scum figured out that Krylea is SK, which isn't unlikely but requires a whole lot of assumptions I don't want to make. AA is town until some of those assumptions become reality.
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Post Post #1664 (isolation #162) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:59 am

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In post 1614, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1605, All Alone wrote:
In post 1541, krylea wrote:Again, if I am scum, why did noone on my scumteam join the case against Gin
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I still think TwoFace is the most likely partner for RBD. For someone who seems as keen on considering all possibilities as TwoFace is, I find it really, really fishy that he didn't consider the possibility of Dash being scum here:
In post 1364, TwoFace wrote:I don't even knothink what's going on but neither of you should've lynched. Cop/miller makes sense. Cop/miller/ascetic has happened before.

If you're legit, she's legit.

If you're fake, you're push on her makes sense.
I'm sure TwoFace has seen a miller fakeclaim before, I doubt he just forgot to consider that possibility. Most likely he just knew in advance that lynching RBD wouldn't advance his wincon and wanted to keep that lynch out of play.

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I have seen a bunch of things before but I've never seen scum fake claim miller before actually. You want to lynch me for that, go ahead.
I'd link you the most amazing Miller claim by scum but I can't reach the site it's on
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Post Post #1665 (isolation #163) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:00 pm

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In post 1619, TwoFace wrote:VOTE: Naomi
Explain this again? Anything other than the "slip"?
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Post Post #1666 (isolation #164) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:02 pm

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In post 1622, TwoFace wrote:I didn't see Krylea as that scummy. There's no way anyone could have known he was sk or even maf. Just being wrong on somebody doesn't make them scum and from what I can remember that's basically why people suspected him.
That's why I didn't like it
but gj everyone on the wagon, things would be rather hairy if the SK lived further
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Post Post #1667 (isolation #165) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:04 pm

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In post 1627, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1625, All Alone wrote:don't believe TwoFace was fooled
You realize it's impossible to sk hunt right? Especially when there was no indication we had one.

You just think I wasn't fooled cause you are mad I scum read you day 1 so you decided to omgus it back at me.

Lynch me idgaf but when i flip town, lynch Naomi please.
How is there a dichotomy between you and Naomi? This is fake.
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Post Post #1668 (isolation #166) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:05 pm

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For now:
FoS: TwoFace
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Post Post #1669 (isolation #167) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:06 pm

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In post 1636, TwoFace wrote:She scum slipped.
Mafia tried to deny it happened.

Aside from that her play is different than what I've see from town.
Specifics.
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Post Post #1670 (isolation #168) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:07 pm

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In post 1646, Alisae wrote:Also becoming piegirl would have been cool.
Game of reference: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=31652
Pieguyn was SK and adorable. But still eventually lynched.
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Post Post #1673 (isolation #169) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:38 pm

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In post 1671, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1669, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1636, TwoFace wrote:She scum slipped.
Mafia tried to deny it happened.

Aside from that her play is different than what I've see from town.
Specifics.
Well I'm not fully caught up but the posts I've seen just don't have the same sort of analysis I'm used to. She also made a post saying she was suspicious of me but was afraid to push it. I called her on it.

If she were town there should be no fear. I won't be surprised if magically that fear goes away given other people support it.
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Post Post #1674 (isolation #170) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:38 pm

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In post 1672, Alisae wrote:That really doesn't sound like a slip to me...
That's not what I was referring to
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Post Post #1677 (isolation #171) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:43 pm

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In post 482, Naomi-Tan wrote:
In post 473, -Grey- wrote:A somebody town doesn't make them town.

I haven't liked Alisae's avoidance of wagons based on appearances (how being on them would make her look), and nothing she's done since then has convinced me otherwise.

The only other place I see myself voting today would be Naomi for the blatant white knighting. She seems to be invested in ensuring Alisae isn't run up. Makes sense if she's trying to protect a scum PR.
Hmm thats a weird way to put it. the last I spoke about things with Alisae you was sure we was on the same team. given the change of your stance did you change your thoughts? if so why didn't you unvote and switch to me? Cause If you think I'm white knighting that means you think Alisae is Green from that the time of the quoted message. I saw a miss lynch happening and I stepped in and gave them an out. given that Reds have no day talk It would make more sense to assume that I was assisting a red team mate out of a bad situation given your previous stance rather than going with white knighting. Can you tell me how you came to white knighting over just assisting a red team mate?
Supposed "slip" that was just an assumption based on mod-given info.
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Post Post #1679 (isolation #172) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:48 pm

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btw since I doubt he's close to lynching
VOTE: TwoFace
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Post Post #1712 (isolation #173) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:20 am

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In post 1685, TwoFace wrote:But I honestly believe it's a slip. That's not a scumtell. Maybe a stupid tell but not a scumtell
you're pushing dumbtells
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Post Post #1716 (isolation #174) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:50 am

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In post 1715, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Sooooo yeah. Naomi voted Grey after he claimed. Anyone like to defend that?
Quote the reasoning
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Post Post #1718 (isolation #175) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:54 am

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I'd rather lynch TF first, still can't get past the slip push.
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Post Post #1740 (isolation #176) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 10:44 am

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In post 1737, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1723, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:What was the case with the enabler role?

I personally don't know how far I'll dabble into that area because this is my first game with ascetics and enablers
if it were a player who's never heard of or encounterd an enabler role before, I could get somebody saying definitely that scum don't have day talk.

Enabler allows scum to have daytalk

Somebody who is familiar with that role imo should never assume that scum don't have daytalk. If she said probably or something that would be different. She said it like it was fact.

I think she's scum for it. I think she's scum for other things also which I sort of explained so it's not just the slip
Read what you just wrote. ENCRYPTOR gives scum daytalk.
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Post Post #1769 (isolation #177) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:03 pm

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In post 1761, Flubbernugget wrote:So if we lynch through Naomi alisae and AA that should be game
Scumclaim IMO.
VOTE: Flubbernugget
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Post Post #1770 (isolation #178) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:03 pm

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Note how he doesn't say which side wins.
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Post Post #1825 (isolation #179) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:18 pm

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In post 1775, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 1770, Gamma Emerald wrote:Note how he doesn't say which side wins.
What knowledge does this imply I have?
It implies you know they are town, which will seal the win for you.
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Post Post #1826 (isolation #180) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:27 pm

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In post 1807, XnadrojX wrote:
Official VC 3.2TwoFace (1)(L-4) [Gamma Emerald]
Naomi-Tan (1)(L-4) [Flubbernugget]
Asphodel (1)(L-4) [Human Sequencer]
All Alone (1)(L-4) [TwoFace]
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With 9 players alive, it's 5 to lynch.
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Asphodel is being prodded
As much as I'd love to have a doublevote, I do not.
I'm voting Flubbernugget.

you saw nothing either
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Post Post #1827 (isolation #181) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:28 pm

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In post 1812, Flubbernugget wrote:So in other words, you have no clue why my slip was even a slip so you vote for me instead of the person KNOWS ABOUT THE DAYCHAT STATUS OF THIS GAME
Not a slip. A slip implies leaking of information.
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Post Post #1828 (isolation #182) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:29 pm

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In post 1821, Alisae wrote:Scum is Werewolfs and Mafia.
And if it makes sense whats holdin ya back?
We call that groupscum. Scum = antitown factions.
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Post Post #1944 (isolation #183) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:37 am

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In post 1920, Human Sequencer wrote:ThinkBig, Gamma, AA, can any of you tell the order of neighboring, and also any conversation of note that has happened recently?
ThinkBig is bleeding town right now, and this information is crucial to solving the game.
TwoFace makes a good point-- I can't understand these neighbourizing choices.
Ircher, TB, me, from what I heard: I just now got in, and Ircher had to be chosen n1.
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Post Post #1945 (isolation #184) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:38 am

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In post 1923, Human Sequencer wrote:Now that your neighbourhood is out, there's no reason to hide any conversation in it's private topic. I would appreciate it if you would cease using it, because it's blatantly anti-town unless you all believe everybody else is town, in which circumstance you can operate as masons.
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Post Post #1946 (isolation #185) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:40 am

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In post 1925, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 1920, Human Sequencer wrote:ThinkBig, Gamma, AA, can any of you tell the order of neighboring, and also any conversation of note that has happened recently?
ThinkBig is bleeding town right now, and this information is crucial to solving the game.
TwoFace makes a good point-- I can't understand these neighbourizing choices.
Ircher was added night 1. He died so the recruitment failed.
I was added night 2. Success.
Gamma was added last night. Success.

Irchers recruitment doesn't make sense if AA is scum. If AA was scum, why would he add someone that was getting killed by the scum team?

I think AA's recruitment makes a lot of sense from town's perspective. If I were a neighborizer, I'd add the people that are more likely town in order to create a pseudomason group with daychat.
Also, note he didn't choose the NK multiple nights. So it's not the intention based on patterns.
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Post Post #2095 (isolation #186) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:17 pm

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In post 1976, Naomi-Tan wrote:11. Human Sequencer
12. Alisae

3. Asphodel
10. All Alone

5. TwoFace
1. Gamma Emerald

Okay... so if Green is in the first bracket who are the most likely people to be red in the other two brackets. Eliminating the masons. -

Wait gamma;s up thats 3? right so. if gamma confirms this we can say AA is confirmed.

Who was recruited last night? As they are not confirmed (as your not told till day is up)
Not masons, neighbors.
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Post Post #2096 (isolation #187) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:18 pm

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Wait, so Naomi is a Traitor?
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Post Post #2098 (isolation #188) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:19 pm

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In post 2075, Naomi-Tan wrote:I extracted a section from my role pm so yeah... thats a thing.. im a non-normal Traitor apperently. Oh Also the Mod preveiously approved this so i'll quote this too


Im already dead? we're in twilight.
Wait you extracted part of your role pm?
That's breaking the rules.
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Post Post #2134 (isolation #189) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:02 am

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2.ThinkBig (Our new asphodel)
3.TwoFace
4.Human Sequencer
5.Alisae
So these are our currently living players except me. I would think TF is town for how much of a hard-on he had for lynching Naomi, but N flipped traitor.
BTW Ali I'm going to notify you that shit won't fly
Personally I'm suspicious of ThinkBig. AA was not as obvtown as the block, so why kill him? Maybe because scum don't want to get figured out in the hood?
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Post Post #2146 (isolation #190) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:40 am

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Pretty sure HS is town.
Kinda feel TF is town but not sure
Feel like TB is a mole in the neighborhood
Ali, no clue but might be okay with it
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Post Post #2148 (isolation #191) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:48 am

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Why kill AA over me, Ali, or HS?
tbh it points to Ali, HS, or TB, and I don't really think it's HS.
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Post Post #2149 (isolation #192) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:48 am

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I think I may ISO dive Naomi tho
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Post Post #2157 (isolation #193) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:54 am

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Oh right, uninforned traitor. tbh that's basically a second SK that wins with the mafia
So associations are COMPLETELY INVALID.
That's shit game design.
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Post Post #2161 (isolation #194) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:55 am

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@mod was the scumteam informed of the traitor, and were they told who the traitor was?
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Post Post #2163 (isolation #195) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:57 am

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In post 2108, XnadrojX wrote:All Alone was found dead! He was a 3-Shot Neighbouriser
Not masonizer, neighborizer btw
I don't want to play with another idiot who doesn't understand how each works
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Post Post #2164 (isolation #196) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:57 am

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In post 2153, Alisae wrote:HS that's a good question, but I think this is our lynch for today
VOTE: Thinkbig

HS even tho TB towntold like a motherfucker, there are so many good lynches left around. Plus there's nothing that can stop scum from towntelling.
TF can easily be lynched.
I can easily be lynched.
TF can easily by lynched.
Hell, you can easily be lynched.
Why not me?
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Post Post #2173 (isolation #197) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:41 am

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you know there's a moment I'm reminded of by NT's role
At one point in a past game a scum forgot their role pm and started pushing their buddy on accident
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Post Post #2182 (isolation #198) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:31 am

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That's called a Desperado.
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Post Post #2218 (isolation #199) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:59 pm

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I already gave my reads
I need to ISO RD tbh
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