Mini Normal 1862 - Town win.

[Flubbernugget]

We have a claimed Cop and a claimed Ascetic Enabler.

How does Cop + Another PR + 8 VTs vs. Ascetic Enabler + 2 Goons sound not close to balance?

Matrix6's Cop+Doc + 5 VTs vs. Mafia RB + Mafia Goon is pretty closed to balanced. Being closed and a mini, town would have slightly more power than the matrix6 setup.

Why are you speculating about set ups?

It's hard for scum to scumhunt do they have to appear town by doing other things

He has been scumhunting and the whole last like 5 pages have been setup spec

What the hell is this

[Flubbernugget]

This game is still on crack

[Flubbernugget]

Notice how now that we have Ircher cornered he stopped replying?

Gross

[Flubbernugget]

Ircher. Why does your grey read change 180 after he claims? If you're scum reading him before his claim, you should still be scum reading him after.

I'll address this later.

On one hand TwoFace is making a really bad push here

On the other hand it shouldn't take more than 30 seconds to respond to this

[Flubbernugget]

Why not use =/=?

Well that changed my opinion on one post

My personal favorite is <> because of how many times it made me want to shoot someone when I had to work with visual basic

On a side note, I'm guessing that =/= is a pain in the ass to parse because the most common languages have /= as an operator

[-Grey-]

I think it's best to state my plan.
No ascetics claim. If Grey claims a result on an ascetic he gets lynched.

All scum has to do if I get a guilty is claim to be ascetic.

That's brilliant.

No. Guilty claims need to be lynched, period. If the guilty flips town, then obviously I'm scum.

Uhhh you should be getting no result on an ascetic not a guilty

Correct. Scum could claim I couldn't have gotten a guilty because they're ascetic.

[Flubbernugget]

@Grey - Last chance to add anything else to your claim that you may have been missing.

Im still convinced grey is scum and he is caught for both game actions he hasn't realized yet and something else that im not going to say until he responds to this just incase he decided to leave out something critical in his claim because there is some stuff that doesn't add up.

Assuming he is town, Any other additional information Grey has about his role does not need to be in scums hands

[Flubbernugget]

Oh LyLo/MyLo is different obviously.

People talk all the time about quickhammers/derphammers, but they really don't seem that common. The only times I've seen them in all the games I've read through on this site have been scum faking an accidental hammer. Like, unless you know there's a VI in the game, I would assume that noone is going to be THAT stupid.

Maybe its just because I'm relatively new though, I guess maybe they could happen more often than I realize.

Looks like you've never played with ika

[Flubbernugget]

Despite the blemishes I like the Ircher wagon overall

[Human Sequencer]

No, don't run up Ircher.

[-Grey-]

No, don't run up Ircher.

Relax, he's still catching up

[Flubbernugget]

Yeah, this may have to take priority over the Ircher thing - loathe as I am to say it.

This seems to be in response to rainbow possibly scumslipping about half as hard as Naomi, which iirc you said was a crappy reason to lynch her

[Flubbernugget]

Grey, why did you wait for gin to coax you before posting your krylea case and throwing down a vote?

[Ircher]

Ircher. Why does your grey read change 180 after he claims? If you're scum reading him before his claim, you should still be scum reading him after.

I'll address this later.

On one hand TwoFace is making a really bad push here

On the other hand it shouldn't take more than 30 seconds to respond to this

Basically cuz I addressed it in my later post and didn't feel like stating it at that instant just to restate it later.

[Flubbernugget]

Ascetic(s) + Miller vs

x-shot

cop?

I DON'T FUCKING THINK SO

I could think of a few ways this would work

[-Grey-]

Grey, why did you wait for gin to coax you before posting your krylea case and throwing down a vote?

I am lazy.

[Ircher]

Ascetic(s) + Miller vs

x-shot

cop?

I DON'T FUCKING THINK SO

I could think of a few ways this would work

I don't.

[-Grey-]

Ascetic(s) + Miller vs

x-shot

cop?

I DON'T FUCKING THINK SO

I could think of a few ways this would work

You would be wrong. The cop would be completely worthless in that scenario.

[Flubbernugget]

^obvscumposting

Cop claims don't die d1 period, even if they're shitty claims.

Doing so denies town information if the claimer actually is a cop and actually does live through the night due to a protective role.

Only Scum has the need to see a cop claim lynched because not doing so forces you to shoot me and pray I'm not protected.

I was personally trying to avoid this conversation but it looks like the cat is out of the bag

This site strongly discourages follow the cop so your reasoning is pretty meh

[Flubbernugget]

Cop claims don't die d1 period, even if they're shitty claims.

Exactly why he is scum. He claims what he thinks is a 100% free pass.

Like I said, absolute worst case he is scum and I get lynched here. Real cop should probably target HS just incase they were town unlucky enough to accidently buy Grey and extra day.

Why does there have to be a cop if Grey is fake claiming

[-Grey-]

Why does there have to be a cop if Grey is fake claiming

Rainbow Fake Miller claim BECAUSE I'm the cop, fool.

There's no other explanation for them not believing my claim. A real Miller would have thought a cop claim made sense due to their own role, not called shenanigans and pushed for a claimed cop to be lynched d1 when Miller is highly suggestive of the existence of cop.

Instead, Dash played against her own supposed reasoning that Miller shouldn't claim d1 to push a claim that she should have believed was completely plausible due to her own role.

She's full of shit and anyone that believes her is scum or fucking stupid.

[Flubbernugget]

I'm not a fool for suspecting your claim, especially if you have to be so abrasive to try and confirm it

[Flubbernugget]

Still catching up.

Rainbowdash, if you have any previous game or even a post anywhere outside of this thread where you say Miller should not claim at the beginning of the game, I want a link

[-Grey-]

I'm not a fool for suspecting your claim, especially if you have to be so abrasive to try and confirm it

I'm not sugary sweet. Wah wah wah.

Doesn't change my role pm.

[-Grey-]

If Dash was town she'd have been hammered by now.

Scum is avoiding bussing like the plague.