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Post Post #475  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 24, 2016 11:29 am

I'll be V/LA until Dec. 26 but will probably be able to check in a couple times.

VOTE: nn

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Post Post #476  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 24, 2016 2:42 pm

VOTE: nn30
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Post Post #477  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:06 pm

In post 423, nn30 wrote:He got a townie mislynch out of it. He could always defend himself tomorrow.

My point being, there was no reason for him to be on the wagon since the lynch would've happened with or without him. It only hurts him to hop on a wagon that would flip town.
In post 386, Tenshii wrote:Regarding the townbloc, these are the only flaws I can think of.

Dave can only be scum with nn30.
TTTT can only be scum with Vedith.
Vedith can only be scum with Creature or TTTT.
Creature can be scum with pretty much anybody I think.

Dave - I can't see why Dave flips to nn30 here unless Dave and nn30 are the scumteam and Dave wants credit for being on the lynch.
TTTT - I don't see why TTTT defends the Vedith lynch unless they are partners
Vedith - I don't remember why I put this but it should be "Vedith can only be scum with Mewtaph, nn30, or TTTT." The others are either D1 bussing him or could've made a new plurality wagon already.
Creature - Same reasoning used for Vedith. But I townread the slot anyways.

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Post Post #478  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:08 pm

I don't get where the nn30 wagon came from.
In post 468, Grendel wrote:Creature, Human Sequencer, shaddowez, Hiraki, Tenshii, TTTT, PsychoticDave, nn30

I'll back up the above reads with substance tomorrow since I'm going to bed soon.

I'll be waiting on this.

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Post Post #479  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:13 pm

VOTE: nn

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Post Post #480  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 24, 2016 4:53 pm

Votecount 1.11

nn30 (4) - Creature, TTTT, Human Sequencer, PsychoticDave
PsychoticDave (1) - Grendel
shaddowez (1) - Tenshii
Tenshii (1) - shaddowez
TTTT (1) - nn30

Not Voting (1) - Hiraki

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2016-12-27 09:09:34)
Is it any wonder things seem so awry? We swim in a sea of confusion and don't have to think to survive, so nobody listens!

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Post Post #481  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 24, 2016 11:11 pm

Yeah so I'm not a fan of all these sheep votes on me. Like, are you guys even trying to solve the game for yourself? 3 people switched to me without an explanation of why. At least Creature hopped onto me for somewhat of a reason (liking Grendel's read list I presume).

Hi Grendel! Put up your intellectual dukes :)

Why do you scum read me?

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Post Post #482  (ISO)  » Sun Dec 25, 2016 12:05 am

I'm pleased that the nn30 wagon took of so well, but it all seems very sudden, and is making me paranoid. Anyhow nn30:

In post 396, nn30 wrote:
In post 394, Tenshii wrote:1) Because of what happened after I posted 381
2) Why is Dave's switch scummy?


1) Fine.

2) Because he's refused to say anything at all all day and suddenly he's just fine with lynching me. It's lazy. I want a policy lynch on useless!Dave at the very least but I wouldn't be surprised if he flipped scum.


In post 467, nn30 wrote:
In post 459, PsychoticDave wrote:I just want the day to end so we actually have evidence for these accusations rather than accusing people for not being active enough.


I don't like this.

There's plenty of scum reading to be done without flips.

In post 424, nn30 wrote:Cmon guys. I don't want a no lynch.

TTTT is my number 1. I'd take a Human or Dave lynch also.


nn30, if you're town, then you need to seriously consider compromise voting Dave.

I'd like two viable lynches at EoD. TTTT/Human is not going to happen. So vote Dave. We can discuss the rest over tea like proper gentlemen.

I'm posting a more through reads list shortly.

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Post Post #483  (ISO)  » Sun Dec 25, 2016 12:09 am

Since you're on the hot seat I'll jump right to your slot on the roster to explain my scum read.

Originally I was starting at the top of the roster and was working my way down. But nn30 is on the very bottom of the list.

So hold on a min

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Post Post #484  (ISO)  » Sun Dec 25, 2016 12:34 am

@Grendel - I mean, I'm okay with a Dave lynch.

Thing is people are going to read my complying to you as scummy (opportunism! look at that desire to stay alive! must be scum!)

Dunno what to do about it, but here we are. Hopefully my dislike of Dave's posts prior to this speak for themselves.

VOTE: Dave

Why, if I'm your top scum read, are you advocating for me to vote Dave instead? Wouldn't you just want to off me and get it over with?

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Post Post #485  (ISO)  » Sun Dec 25, 2016 12:36 am

nn30


In general nn30 seems very at ease, and confidant. This worries me because I got out of a game with him recently where he as town basically sheeped confirmed town players/ OB town leaders the whole game, and expressed multiple times that he was unsure of himself. Not seeing that lack of faith in himself here. Funnily at enough it is how at ease he seems that feels so unnatural to me.

In post 58, nn30 wrote:I'm not a fan of lynching this early in the game.

I agree that Vedith has been basically jacking off since the beginning of the game and doing this is not helpful to town. That said, I see no reason to lynch so early. I'm not confident enough in a Vedith lynch and we'd lose out on a lot of juicy info.

Human - I don't think you'd be so brazen as scum to advocate for a page 3 lynch. Town reading you.


58 Stating multiple times(well at least twice) throughout the day that longer days are protown, and early lynches are proscum. This usually goes without saying outside newbie games. The repeat of it feels like mannequin plastic level fake, and the feeling persisted throughout my reading of the game.

In post 188, nn30 wrote:
In post 186, PsychoticDave wrote:
In post 185, Tenshii wrote:Then do you have reads?

Alternatively, I don't understand any townreads on Dave.

Nope.


Town read eroding.


188 Safe distancing tactic. “What you did there was kinda scummy” *proceeds to do nothing about it* nn30 keeps viewing Dave as a tertiary read, but hasn't done much by it.

In post 200, nn30 wrote:
In post 196, Vedith wrote:
In post 195, nn30 wrote:Why are you scum reading me human


If you're actually town and not scum, it's probably because you're not a chosen one and Human is trying to mark you as one hoping for my flip of chosen. :up:
As I said, 1 for 1 is good for them, then to paint someone else as a chosen, cherry on top.


Scum like to do setup spec to fake content.

However, this speculation feels genuine for some reason.

TR for it - though this is subject to change in later days.


200 He does this thing were he just repeatedly tacks a scum tell when he votes in the duration of this game and it pings me so hard. Like he has a need to overcompensate for his vote or something. Why not post a case of substance if he cared so much. I know that nn30 is capable of working much harder then he has been so far this game. :/

The consistent pressure on TTTT bothers me because out of my sr's I think that TTTT is the most likely one to actually be a chosen town just based on how their wagon composition has looked in the past, and how everybody who was initially scum reading Misa seem to have carried this read all the way to here. But I'll get into this more when I get to TTTTT.

Ultimately a lot of this is gut + previous experiences. Lately my Meta on others has been… less then accurate, and I’m open to being wrong here.

Hopefully I can get some commentary from other players on this and other reads before a lynch comes.

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Post Post #486  (ISO)  » Sun Dec 25, 2016 12:39 am

In post 484, nn30 wrote:
Why, if I'm your top scum read, are you advocating for me to vote Dave instead? Wouldn't you just want to off me and get it over with?


B/c if you flip town and I didn't work with you at all this game I would feel like a horrible player.

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Post Post #487  (ISO)  » Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:05 am

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My town read is based on my belief that Vedith would be veto’d. If I’m not the chosen one the likely hood that Human would spend the entirety of D1 planted on a lynch that wouldn’t further their win-con seems unlikely.

However this sudden flip onto a new wagon when I had not even justified my town read on them bothers me a little.

Even more so when you consider that I was OB scum for like 90% of the game to them. :shifty:

PsychoticDave

My belief is firmly that he is a either mafia, or not a chosen townie. This is stemmed from his poor iso, he can’t be a chosen one if he were making bad posts such as:
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In post 34, PsychoticDave wrote:
In post 33, Creature wrote:Don't vote Human, vote Human Sequencer (or maybe HS).

You have the absolutely worst reasoning for putting Human at L-1 on P1.
I'm convinced you're bad scum.


In post 184, PsychoticDave wrote:
In post 183, Tenshii wrote:
In post 169, Vedith wrote:Feelbad to those with less posts than mod.

Bwahahahaha.

@Dave why are you scumreading Vedith? If you still are?

@Misa why do you scumread Creature?

I never said I was scumreading Vedith. I just don't like playing with Vedith.


In post 186, PsychoticDave wrote:
In post 185, Tenshii wrote:Then do you have reads?

Alternatively, I don't understand any townreads on Dave.

Nope.


In post 326, PsychoticDave wrote:I've still said all I have to say.
I'm just waiting for the day to end.

He uses the god awful, "Well their either scum or bad town" argument. Voting people just because he doesn't like them. Cutting of discussion -multiple times-.Then he just throws in the towel. The rest of his posts are him repeating how he wants the day to end plus necked votes to show just how "done" he is with this day. Scum would rip him apart for dinner in he were one of the chosen ones. This suggests to me that he is either mafia, or not chosen town since scum are ignoring lynch bait for their preferred, "chosen", targets. Which frankly, is why I think he is the ideal lynch for today.

His behavior also reminds me a lot of a newbie game I was in were my scum buddy acted overtly antitown on D1 in the most ham-fisted way he could muster. He outright refuse to scum hunt, preached about the statistical unlikeness that town lynches scum D1, and the all D1 lynches are basically random. He cruised into lylo by being so vocally unhelpful, and I’m seeing a parallel here with Dave. Dave complains how there is nothing going on, then ironically refuses to add new content to the table, then talks about wanting to end the day.

These things are so unhelpful that town is all writing it off as too brazen to come from scum. When it Is all so over the top that it feels, and looks completely intentional to me!

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Post Post #488  (ISO)  » Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:14 am

In post 486, Grendel wrote:
In post 484, nn30 wrote:
Why, if I'm your top scum read, are you advocating for me to vote Dave instead? Wouldn't you just want to off me and get it over with?


B/c if you flip town and I didn't work with you at all this game I would feel like a horrible player.


Oh yes, aside from the touching hand extension I do think that there are universes out there were you could flip chosen. Especially once I saw the rate your wagon reach L-1 at the page top.

I see no such thing for Davey, and why I think he could be the better lynch.

All thing considered, as long as we don't lynch chosen by mistake town will always win. Weather or not town lynches scum. I really think that scum reads should be secondary to uh... "chosen reads". Unfortently noboby else seems to realize this. :/

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Post Post #489  (ISO)  » Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:33 am

Shaddowez-
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In post 158, shaddowez wrote:This game is ridiculous to read.

Pretty sure Creature is town here. There was no reason to unvote Human if he was scum, since getting a wagon to L-1 in RVS isn't unheard of, and if someone else derphammered he could have easily justified it. Additionally pointing out Misa's vote count in makes no sense as scum.

mewtaph has nothing in their ISO except for agreeing with/not agreeing with reads. He says nothing about his read on Vedith in , but says he likes everyone on it as town except Tenshii then votes Tenshii. Asks Misa for reads in , then sheeps a vote on her in before she answers.

Vedith is impossible to read, as usual, but if mew flips scum I wouldn't be surprised if that's a partner based on 76. and add to this feeling as well.

I don't like Human tunneling on Vedith like he is, but I don't know if it's scummy.

Still trying to parse through everything else, but want to do this for now.

VOTE: mewtaph


I actually really liked his points on Mewtaph in 158. I also think that it was interesting how he brought this point up to discussion but was largely ignored. And what this implicates about Mew.

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In post 302, shaddowez wrote:Except you're not, which is the scummy part. You're throwing all sorts of shade (,, ,), but you never vote me or try to convince anyone else I'm scum. All you do is say I'm scum for lurking/dodging, but would rather lynch somebody else first. Additionally, if you actually thought I was scum way back in 165 for a "scum slip", you would've pushed me a hell of a lot harder.

Haven't seen a recent VC yet, but don't really care.

VOTE: Vedith

In post 307, shaddowez wrote:More specifically from that post:

In post 305, shaddowez wrote:
In post 196, Vedith wrote:
In post 195, nn30 wrote:Why are you scum reading me human


If you're actually town and not scum, it's probably because you're not a chosen one and Human is trying to mark you as one hoping for my flip of chosen. :up:
As I said, 1 for 1 is good for them, then to paint someone else as a chosen, cherry on top.


If Human is scum like Vedith is saying, he doesn't need to hope for Vedith to flip as chosen, he would know if Vedith was or not.



In his case on Vedith that largely stems from his gut. Its apparent that Vedith had Shadow as a tertiary read which is… common from any alignment. Shaddowez scum read is largely reactionary fmpov, and not very telling into his alignment beyond that he might play emotionally as one of them(302). The “scum slip” that Shadowez pointed out at in 305, and 307, dosen’t make any sense to me. In fact it seems more likely that town would misinterpret the rules to the game then mafia.

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In post 448, shaddowez wrote:DL is paused, so unless someone hammers I don't how I'm the definite lynch, that can easily swing.

Just saw that Vedith is replacing out, but I still think that slot is scum. I hate preflip associatives, but the other strong scum read I have at this time in Tenshii.

Dave is playing like a VI, but I don't think he's scum.

I think you're town, and I think Human is town.

nn30 is playing similarly to the other game I was in with him where he was scum, and his comment about me in gives me the jeebies.

I was originally reading Mew as scum, but their play was getting better, but that's another slot that is getting replaced so I wouldn't want to do anything with it.

I have to read TTTT again, but I have a gut town read on that slot.



For some reason his paranoia for nn30 in 448 seem incredibility genuine to me. I didn’t like how he decided to unvote my slot just because I was replacing in. He seemed so positive that my slot was scum, but the dropped it once Vedith was no longer playing. I’d like to think he was just following parliamentary procedure to be nice but idk.

I didn’t find anything insightful on his wagon, other then being bothered that it wasn’t on Dave whose posting is significantly worse, or nn30 for his scuminess. It also had this fluid quality that irked my like it was scum motivated. Town rarely come to such a natural cohesive conclusion by themselves when scum hunting. Usally mafia can make things smooth like grease, or slow like molasses D1. Unless you have lots of good town players, which um...

Ehh he might evolve into a town read depending. Im currently null.

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Post Post #490  (ISO)  » Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:34 am

I actually really have to go to bed now.

I'll finish this tomarrow.

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Post Post #491  (ISO)  » Sun Dec 25, 2016 2:05 am

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In post 485, Grendel wrote:nn30


In general nn30 seems very at ease, and confidant. This worries me because I got out of a game with him recently where he as town basically sheeped confirmed town players/ OB town leaders the whole game, and expressed multiple times that he was unsure of himself. Not seeing that lack of faith in himself here. Funnily at enough it is how at ease he seems that feels so unnatural to me.

In post 58, nn30 wrote:I'm not a fan of lynching this early in the game.

I agree that Vedith has been basically jacking off since the beginning of the game and doing this is not helpful to town. That said, I see no reason to lynch so early. I'm not confident enough in a Vedith lynch and we'd lose out on a lot of juicy info.

Human - I don't think you'd be so brazen as scum to advocate for a page 3 lynch. Town reading you.


58 Stating multiple times(well at least twice) throughout the day that longer days are protown, and early lynches are proscum. This usually goes without saying outside newbie games. The repeat of it feels like mannequin plastic level fake, and the feeling persisted throughout my reading of the game.

In post 188, nn30 wrote:
In post 186, PsychoticDave wrote:
In post 185, Tenshii wrote:Then do you have reads?

Alternatively, I don't understand any townreads on Dave.

Nope.


Town read eroding.


188 Safe distancing tactic. “What you did there was kinda scummy” *proceeds to do nothing about it* nn30 keeps viewing Dave as a tertiary read, but hasn't done much by it.

In post 200, nn30 wrote:
In post 196, Vedith wrote:
In post 195, nn30 wrote:Why are you scum reading me human


If you're actually town and not scum, it's probably because you're not a chosen one and Human is trying to mark you as one hoping for my flip of chosen. :up:
As I said, 1 for 1 is good for them, then to paint someone else as a chosen, cherry on top.


Scum like to do setup spec to fake content.

However, this speculation feels genuine for some reason.

TR for it - though this is subject to change in later days.


200 He does this thing were he just repeatedly tacks a scum tell when he votes in the duration of this game and it pings me so hard. Like he has a need to overcompensate for his vote or something. Why not post a case of substance if he cared so much. I know that nn30 is capable of working much harder then he has been so far this game. :/

The consistent pressure on TTTT bothers me because out of my sr's I think that TTTT is the most likely one to actually be a chosen town just based on how their wagon composition has looked in the past, and how everybody who was initially scum reading Misa seem to have carried this read all the way to here. But I'll get into this more when I get to TTTTT.

Ultimately a lot of this is gut + previous experiences. Lately my Meta on others has been… less then accurate, and I’m open to being wrong here.

Hopefully I can get some commentary from other players on this and other reads before a lynch comes.


@Grendel - you refer to my 2nd town game on the site. It's an evolving process. Despite winning, I didn't play that game very well. I've adjusted my style here.

As far as effort goes, there are a few pieces of information you should know.

I knew the mod IRL from our previous game. I put a lot of effort into that game because of this.
Until recently, I was in 5 games. I didn't have the time to put into this game that I had to put into our previous game.
Holidays are a busy time. FMPOV, school finals ended which means my girlfriend is in the apt all the time now. Gone are the days of waking up at 10am, making breakfast and drinking coffee until 11am, and then Mafia scumming until 3pm. Having another human around to talk to gets in the way of playing.

AND

I'm in the process of starting a small (seasonal) business. Late November - December 23rd were hella busy for me.

So yeah.

I see why you scum read me, but I think that with some more context you may rethink those reads.
Not sure if effort is AI for you but the fact that you've gone through and laid out so much on every player in the game resonates towny with me.

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Post Post #492  (ISO)  » Sun Dec 25, 2016 2:07 am

In post 487, Grendel wrote:My belief is firmly that he is a either mafia, or not a chosen townie. This is stemmed from his poor iso, he can’t be a chosen one if he were making bad posts such as:


Chosen are not told they are chosen. Only scum know who they are. Dave's behavior shouldn't tell you anything about whether or not he's chosen as he wouldn't know this either.

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Post Post #493  (ISO)  » Sun Dec 25, 2016 2:08 am

In post 487, Grendel wrote:He uses the god awful, "Well their either scum or bad town" argument. Voting people just because he doesn't like them. Cutting of discussion -multiple times-.Then he just throws in the towel. The rest of his posts are him repeating how he wants the day to end plus necked votes to show just how "done" he is with this day. Scum would rip him apart for dinner in he were one of the chosen ones. This suggests to me that he is either mafia, or not chosen town since scum are ignoring lynch bait for their preferred, "chosen", targets. Which frankly, is why I think he is the ideal lynch for today.


Disregard the above post.

I replied to it before finishing reading the whole thing. I now understand what you were saying.

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Post Post #494  (ISO)  » Sun Dec 25, 2016 2:26 am

From my last post, there were a few things that I needed to look at a bit more closely. For formatting (read: you can ignore if you're not interested in reading thoughts that are basically equivalent to just internal recap) here is what this post will discuss:

1) Human Sequencer ISO
2) nn30 ISO
3) Creature ISO
4) Current Updates & Vote

1) Human Sequencer ISO

This should be the shortest of the three based on what I am seeing pretty early on - nothing really commentable.

Very adamant on Vedith scum and using connections based off that for reads. I don't really like that but it's not a scumtell.

In post 311, Human Sequencer wrote:yes, shadow is misunderstanding Vedith's post and the ruleset and this makes him -town-


A) Why isn't this just a person making a mistake rather than town making a mistake?
B) Can you explain your Creature townread a little more? Specific examples would be nice. The only reference I can see is your reference to 231 (in 240) and I don't see how you get that it's a town post. It's literally just his opinions - is he town for agreeing with your thoughts?

Really would like more content. Just null overall tbh after doing some reading.

2) nn30 ISO

In post 58, nn30 wrote:I'm not a fan of lynching this early in the game.

I agree that Vedith has been basically jacking off since the beginning of the game and doing this is not helpful to town. That said, I see no reason to lynch so early. I'm not confident enough in a Vedith lynch and we'd lose out on a lot of juicy info.

Human - I don't think you'd be so brazen as scum to advocate for a page 3 lynch. Town reading you.
Someone (sorry, it's a bit late so I'm not checking whom) notes this inconsistency. It's kind of bad.

In post 80, nn30 wrote:
In post 74, Vedith wrote:
In post 72, Creature wrote:Yeah, we're missing 5-6 players.


Yeah this is why the games going to be so slow. And more of a reason why Human wants me dead, no town speak = easy scum win.


Right... So you're scum reading human and voting me because...?
This is a bad post for someone that is experience - nn30 doesn't sound dumb.

In post 94, nn30 wrote:
In post 89, Creature wrote:If you vote Vedith, you might hammer a chosen townie.


This is such stupid logic. Are you trolling?
I'm not a fan of this post either for the above reasons. There is really no logic here.

In post 115, nn30 wrote:
In post 107, Vedith wrote:OMG, I did it! I'm the chosen one!


Actually, scum!Creature choosing you specifically to defend (and ignoring me) could suggest that I'm the Chosen townie.
I'm very confused. You've been an advocate of not lynching quickly but you're not taking off your vote nor are you letting off on this scumread.

I also don't like that by ISO 40, nn30 has basically voted anyone who has accused him of anything. I can get a vote on here.

3) Creature ISO

This will happen after 25th. I don't think I will be voting Creature though.

4) As per above:

I would be OK voting NN or Shadoweh. NN would cause lynch tho so I will wait.
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Post Post #495  (ISO)  » Sun Dec 25, 2016 5:32 am


Feels off. Very 'Well this is a list of things town doesn't want, and this is why I'm against them townread me plz' peppered with a little bit of Vedith discredit. This works as scum motivation if Vedith is scum or town, as scum nn is going for distancing play, as town nn is going for townie discredit. Backed up by the mini-tunnel he works himself into in posts and it's successor. At least his push in 80 is at least somewhat based in logic, even though it's shoddy logic. Worth noting he calls out Vedith for scumreading me and voting nn, yet he scumreads Vedith and isn't voting Vedith, instead jumping on Creature soon after. Speaking of...


Creature's logic is perfectly sound, and regardless, bad logic is no reason to scumread somebody. That said, I see this slip up as far more likely coming from townNN compared to scumNN. There isn't much scum motivation behind this push, considering it's so early any wagon nn can formulate is unlikely to end in a lynch. The only conceivable reasons I can think of are if Creature is chosen or if Vedith/NN are a scumteam, which is worth noting for later. Town motivation is 'lol this dude's dumb lynch scum lol'


Dave had nothing to say in 100. 100 is a stupid post. More NN townpoints.


Good post. Legitimate point against Misa. Kinda worried about how much he's changed his top target, though.


Townpost. Kinda towny in a way that jives consistently with what he's posted earlier, misguided scumhunting. No real scum motivation.


Another townpost with no real scum motivation. I doubt NN is onball enough to think about asking for that meta as scum, it seems much more likely to come from a good little towny trying to understand the game better.
His read change on Creature bleeds town to me, it reads like nn realized that in the moment he was just wrong and there was no reason to get all huffed about it. Massive townpoints for this post.


Reads genuine.

Pretty sure NN is town at this point, anybody have any incriminating posts past this point they want me to give a closer look at?
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Post Post #496  (ISO)  » Sun Dec 25, 2016 5:37 am

btw, I neglected this game for a few days so I'm treating it like I just replaced in with hiraki and grendel, expect more posts like ^
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Post Post #497  (ISO)  » Sun Dec 25, 2016 5:56 am

@mod
Now that the replacements have settled in, could we please have an official deadline?
JD

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Post Post #498  (ISO)  » Sun Dec 25, 2016 12:59 pm

feels off.

He says he's going to do an ISO of Human sequencer, then says there's nothing to be said. Human's ISO is full of commentable stuff. Handwaving it away feels shortsighted. The scum motivation for it is to make it seem like he's putting effort into the game - lumping his read of me in there with his 'read' of Human disguises the scum!goal of securing a mislynch in me. Like, if he scum read me enough to want to lynch me, just lynch me then? He had the opportunity to hammer?

The 'I'm going to wait to hammer' seems like a play for town cred.

I town read Mew so I'm not sure what to do with this read. I suppose it could also come from town not putting much effort in. Will keep an eye on this slot.

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Post Post #499  (ISO)  » Sun Dec 25, 2016 4:14 pm

@nn30, You think that Mew/Hiraki are town?

Why exactly?

If you explained previously then quote it b/c I must have missed it.

@Human, Why did you vote nn30 originally?

How did you go from scum reading my slot this whole game to... forgetting that it existed as soon I subbed in?

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