OPEN 663: STACK THE DECK (GAME OVER)

[Secret Agent Jin]

@Realeo i didnt say you are shedding attention now, i said IN THE FUTURE, you could use the arguement about pro-town/anti-vi to shed votes. I read you as scum, yes, but a competent scum.

[Realeo]

@Realeo i didnt say you are shedding attention now, i said IN THE FUTURE, you could use the arguement about pro-town/anti-vi to shed votes. I read you as scum, yes, but a competent scum.

So you scumread me, in THE FUTURE, not in THE PRESENT.

[Secret Agent Jin]

No i scumread you now for what you have said and with the knowledge that in the future you will use scum tactics.

[Realeo]

will

Oh. So you happen to have scum meta of my gameplay? Let me hear it. I mean, if you can boldly say

will

, than it's something beyond reasonable doubt--not some paranoidism like ssbm_kyouko.

[Secret Agent Jin]

will

Oh. So you happen to have scum meta of my gameplay? Let me hear it. I mean, if you can boldly say

will

, than it's something beyond reasonable doubt--not some paranoidism like ssbm_kyouko.

I do not have scum meta on you as i put no faith in meta and dont think it has any place in any game. I read you as you play a game and i look at your current play, not your previous games and your "meta".

[Realeo]

It still doesn't explain why I am scum would use that tactic is

beyond reasonable doubt

. If you throw that idea at me but leave it on the floor--like I did @ Dunstral--that makes senses because it's still around reasonable doubt.

[Realeo]

I'd make it more obvious.

Your current state like "Realeo is compotent scum". That's just an assertion. Can go a bit further?

[Secret Agent Jin]

How would you want me to go further? What aspect do you want me to explain?

[Realeo]

Your wording shows certainty. I still don't understand where the certainty comes from?

[Kop]

Yeah, Realeo's last few posts, all the faux-VI ones, seem like they would come from a place of scum.

VOTE: Realeo

Enlighten me. The faux-VI supposed to be a NAI.

I take it as you saying that you are not going to play the tactic of being VI and attempt to play to your fullest so we shouldn't lynch you because you are going to play pro-town. That is something a scum would do to let everyone know they were "town" and to look else where. Its a failsafe to fall back on and shed votes at L-2 or L-1. "Hey, look, i said i was pro-town, give me a chance".

This is throwing shade.

Ok. Enlighten me.

You explained yourself regarding the VI, but SAJ decides to throw shade on the whole thing by saying you could be using that as a excuse to look like your playing pro town. It's discrediting what you have said, and throwing shade by keeping the focus, purely on that.

Like myself, I've seen what you have had to say, and I don't discredit it to a point where I'd be pushing you, based on that. I'd rather focus my energy and thoughts onto other meaningful matters that need attention.

[Kop]

@Realeo i didnt say you are shedding attention now, i said IN THE FUTURE, you could use the arguement about pro-town/anti-vi to shed votes. I read you as scum, yes, but a competent scum.

He could do that, but if he acts scummy enough to look scum, he will be lynched on that. Not what he claims of being a VI.

If he brings on the attention onto himself that warrants lynching for, he will have to use something else to show that he has town intentions and is actually town, than quoting something he used early game.

[Secret Agent Jin]

Alright, ill drop it but if he is scum just remember i told you.

[Kop]

Alright, ill drop it but if he is scum just remember i told you.

What are your reads up to now?

[Secret Agent Jin]

My reads are that realeo and hans are scum. The rest are null to me. Dunn might be a bit townlean.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Hey

Don't let this fool crumb multiple roles

[Kop]

Hey

Don't let this fool crumb multiple roles

He can't fool crumb doc role considering there is no doctor in this setup, or at least doesn't mention doctor being in this setup.

[Kop]

mafia traitor is bulletproof btw so they wouldn't even die

I didn't realise it's BP until I looked at the setup specs. It's one shot though, but obviously that doesn't mean anything, just means scum won't shoot that slot again.

[Realeo]

He can't fool crumb doc role considering there is no doctor in this setup, or at least doesn't mention doctor being in this setup.

That is exactly the message of my sarcastic third role crumb.

[MariaR]

I came here to say SAJ is town.
Carry on

[Dunnstral]

Bodyguard is close enough to doctor that that's what I'd take it as, by the way

[Secret Agent Jin]

I came here to say SAJ is town.
Carry on

Well...i mean im flattered....but itz unexpected. Maybe we could go for coffee soon.

Anyways, which fool were talking about multi-role crumbing? I ask this because i tend to see both side crumb roles the same amount.

[MariaR]

Crumbing roles are something I expect scum to do more then town but it really is NAI unless it's leading up to someone being under pressure.

[Kop]

Bodyguard is close enough to doctor that that's what I'd take it as, by the way

I agree, but I don't see any point crumbing it. It would be plain stupid for someone to be brazen enough to stand up and shout hey I'm a cop, or I'm a doctor/bodyguard.

And if he is stupid enough to do it, then well I'd not be lynching him based on that, the game will dictate what will happen if there was any truth in it.

Which I don't believe there is.

[Kop]

Crumbing roles are something I expect scum to do more then town but it really is NAI unless it's leading up to someone being under pressure.

I haven't seen scum crumb roles, I've seen it more from town, but mostly masons, and investigative roles something they can go back too and back up there claim. However, it's not blatantly obvious.

[MariaR]

I don't really think it's something to dwell over