Large Normal 197: Wordplay Mafia OVER

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #88 (isolation #0) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:42 pm

Hey guys! I won't be able to give much input until next afternoon, I just got home from band practice and I have a PSAT tomorrow so... Yeah.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #431 (isolation #1) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:48 am

Oh my god, 18 pages.... I think I'd rather read my history chapter. :/

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #481 (isolation #2) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:38 pm

Okay, I've caught up as much as I could allow my brain to read. I'm sorry if you don't like townblocks but here's mine: PeregrineV, Doomfeathers (not really a block, but whatever)
In terms of scum, I'm completely flustered. I've got a lot of people on my list for potential scum, but my strongest are Iraonavp and bins.
Ira really because upon entering the game, instead of catching up he's just asking who to lynch. He acknowledges he's catching up in 308, but doesn't really offer any reads or questions from before that.
Bins also for not making an effort to catch up and his posts. His posts... they ping me. I don't know if it's the lack of punctuation, or lack of actual information and analysis, but something just seems off.
I don't know if making reads because they don't feel like catching up is an accurate method of scumhunting but... I don't know. I'm tired.
I'll focus some more on the recent posts.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #493 (isolation #3) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:48 pm

In post 486, iraonavp wrote:
In post 481, BigYoshiFan wrote:Okay, I've caught up as much as I could allow my brain to read. I'm sorry if you don't like townblocks but here's mine: PeregrineV, Doomfeathers (not really a block, but whatever)
In terms of scum, I'm completely flustered. I've got a lot of people on my list for potential scum, but my strongest are Iraonavp and bins.
Ira really because upon entering the game, instead of catching up he's just asking who to lynch. He acknowledges he's catching up in 308, but doesn't really offer any reads or questions from before that.
Bins also for not making an effort to catch up and his posts. His posts... they ping me. I don't know if it's the lack of punctuation, or lack of actual information and analysis, but something just seems off.
I don't know if making reads because they don't feel like catching up is an accurate method of scumhunting but... I don't know. I'm tired.
I'll focus some more on the recent posts.
But I did it now, so you should vote Bins instead!

Uhh, okay. If anything this makes me not wanna vote him now.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #518 (isolation #4) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:12 pm

In post 459, iraonavp wrote:
In post 351, Bins wrote:ya ppl who suggest townblocs are usually scum HAAA....

triggered

never trust the townbloc former
they are just looking for friends and ppl to kill after tea time
Okay, I understand why they would vote Bins now...

VOTE: Bins

This, I think, is his only post on his scumread on Bins. Then he starts scumreading Gamma a lot more intensely than Bins. I'm not quite sure, why he'd rather lynch Bins over Gamma with the way he's acted towards each.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #576 (isolation #5) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:48 pm

In post 572, PeregrineV wrote: My name is translated as Innocent Child in Sanskrit.

Really? I thought Sanskrit was still being deciphered.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #603 (isolation #6) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:30 pm

In post 579, Transcend wrote:yoshi and mariar

u two should blitz iraonavp

tx

Gimme a wordplay that will send me reeling and we'll see.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #604 (isolation #7) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:31 pm

In post 601, iraonavp wrote:
In post 591, Transcend wrote:no but i'm trying to get people to blitz him

hey....

iraonavp called u fat

lynch him
No I didn't, stop lying!

Well obviously you didn't. Why did you even respond to this?

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #605 (isolation #8) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:32 pm

How many of you are watching the debate right now? XD
Is this too off-topic?

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #607 (isolation #9) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:35 pm

In post 606, Transcend wrote: i think someone should L-1 this slot. EGGspecially you, BigYoshiFan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJxCdh1Ps48

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #608 (isolation #10) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:37 pm

Hey Spyre, why did you vote Ira? You seemed rather content with your vote on Bins, so much you were asking others to vote him too. What changed your mind?

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #610 (isolation #11) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:39 pm

In post 609, Transcend wrote:;-;

yoshi has eggs right!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!!??!?!?

Right... but egg puns are overrated. I shouldn't be judging too much since I haven't made a wordplay since the game started though, but it will come, and it will be hilarious.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #619 (isolation #12) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:43 pm

In post 612, SpyreX wrote:Wagon size man. I said id hammer iron so same same.

Yoshi
Never trust an atom.
They make.everything up

I have heard that one at least 4 times in chemistry class. XD
Now if I am gonna be honest, my vote on Ira is pretty much predetermined, but I WANT SOME GOOD WORDPLAY!!!!!!!!!!!

Intent to hammer

only after I start laughing from a pun.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #621 (isolation #13) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:44 pm

In post 524, drealmerz7 wrote:we could vote grapes and go for the lowest of low hanging fruit!

If you can top this, then hell yeah I will hammer.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #624 (isolation #14) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:45 pm

In post 620, Bins wrote:
In post 619, BigYoshiFan wrote:
In post 612, SpyreX wrote:Wagon size man. I said id hammer iron so same same.

Yoshi
Never trust an atom.
They make.everything up
I have heard that one at least 4 times in chemistry class. XD
Now if I am gonna be honest, my vote on Ira is pretty much predetermined, but I WANT SOME GOOD WORDPLAY!!!!!!!!!!!

Intent to hammer
only after I start laughing from a pun.
if you hammer I will vig you

Oh... why?

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #627 (isolation #15) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:46 pm

In post 625, Transcend wrote:bins:

if you're opposed to someone qh'ing so much

why is your vote still on him when he's L-1

???????????????

It's not, right? I thought his vote was on dreamerz, lemme check.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #634 (isolation #16) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:49 pm

In post 630, SpyreX wrote:You cant run through a campground.

You can only ran. Its past tents.

Okay, you win.

Intent to hammer after claim

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #642 (isolation #17) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:52 pm

Guys, I'm not hammering without a claim... Actually now that I think about it, a claim probably wouldn't sway me, but I still want one.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #643 (isolation #18) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:52 pm

In post 641, Transcend wrote:but the catch is: you must do it in the next 5 minutes

or else i will doc spyrex

Then I will roleblock you.

Spoiler:

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #649 (isolation #19) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:54 pm

In post 644, MariaR wrote: no EMOTION only WORDS

N-ngh! I'm sorry I don't w-wanna upset you WAAAH ;-;
Yoshi is town btw[/quote]
Don't be sad. I townread you too, but just slightly.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #650 (isolation #20) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:55 pm

In post 648, Transcend wrote:
In post 641, Transcend wrote:but the catch is: you must do it in the next 5 minutes

or else i will doc spyrex
time's a tickin'

tick

tick

tick

Shush, the more you insist I lolhammer the more scummy you become.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #658 (isolation #21) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:58 pm

In post 651, SpyreX wrote:Have you ever done it as town yoshi? The thrill of a lolhammer. Its intoxicating

You people... At this point I don't think anyone is unvoting, so I don't think there is any harm in waiting for a claim. I'm sorry, but that means even if I have to wait over a day or if he refuses to claim.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #659 (isolation #22) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:58 pm

In post 657, Transcend wrote:
In post 655, Road Kamelot wrote:but on the other hand im almost tempted to lolhammer this mislynch myself

i will doc you if you do it

not even joking

in fact i'm upping the stakes

if scum don't kill me tonight, i will doc you for
TWO (2)
nights

You're setting yourself up for suspicion when he dies.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #662 (isolation #23) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:01 pm

If I lolhammered and he ended up being town, how would that make me look? Suspicious, right? I want a claim before I hammer.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #666 (isolation #24) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:04 pm

In post 665, Road Kamelot wrote:so youre worried about looking suspicious
And not about accidentally hammering a town PR?
Youve got your priorities crossed if youre town

What? That's why I am waiting for a claim.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #668 (isolation #25) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:19 pm

In post 630, SpyreX wrote:You cant run through a campground.

You can only ran. Its past tents.

As soon as I went into facebook, this wordplay phrase was the first thing I saw. XD

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #673 (isolation #26) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:23 pm

In post 669, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 666, BigYoshiFan wrote:
In post 665, Road Kamelot wrote:so youre worried about looking suspicious
And not about accidentally hammering a town PR?
Youve got your priorities crossed if youre town
What? That's why I am waiting for a claim.

They should have claimed earlier, when they came in to deny calling people fat. L-2 with suspicion and momentum, and nothing to work or diffuse it.

You're right... all he said was that he was lying. Okay, just give me a second.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #680 (isolation #27) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:29 pm

VOTE: iraonavp
While errant is here too.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #712 (isolation #28) » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:14 am

I'm not sure what to think here. I think chaos' immunity to Gamma's shot makes it equally likely he's town or scum.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #720 (isolation #29) » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:41 am

Hey guys, I'm not gonna be able to post for the remainder of the day because I have a marching band competition today! Also, I probably wouldn't be able to post much anyway because this is a discussion on roles and balance and I haven't played enough to be able to make judgments on that, so... good luck!

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #722 (isolation #30) » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:52 am

Town - Pelegrine, Gamma
Lean Town - MariaR, Bins, Road Kamelot
Null - Transcend, Dunnstral, Dreamerzl7
Lean Scum - ChaosOmega, SpyreX, Gear, gerryoat (strongest scum read)
Scum - No one yet.

Shitty ass reads list, right? I'm here for 15 more minutes, I can give brief descriptions on anyone you want.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #724 (isolation #31) » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:55 am

For gerryoat, he's hopped on (I think) every wagon that occurred day 1. Also, his posts don't help town at all with any reads, analysis, nothing. On top of that, his fake day cop read on 119, it just doesn't seem townie to me... not sure what motivation would be behind it if he wasn't town, but...

p-edit: Sorry I started this post before you asked Dunnstral, one second.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #725 (isolation #32) » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:58 am

My townread on Bins:
1. He didn't vote Iraonavp. WIFOM (I think I'm using that correctly), I know. Idc.
2. He didn't want me to vote without a claim, which I regret not waiting for.
3. Overall, his posts are promoting conversation.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #736 (isolation #33) » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:08 am

My scumread on SpyreX:
1. He voted Ira despite not showing any suspicion of him whatsoever, and when I asked him why, he said because of the wagon size. However, 520 is making me see the light in this slightly.
2. He had suspicion on Bins, and ditched it for Iraonavp's wagon. However, 520 is making me see the light in this slightly.
3. His posts aren't promoting discussion, half of them are puns and wordplay, the other half is useless.
4. He doesn't give any reason for his reads. Ex: 415,
Sorry, I can't finish this, I really have to go.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #891 (isolation #34) » Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:25 pm

Hey guys. back from marching band competition! I'm absolutely pooped, so if you want anything from me, ask me, and I should be able to answer you tomorrow afternoon (because I'll probably get like... 13 hours of sleep).

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #896 (isolation #35) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:02 am

In post 892, drealmerz7 wrote:what instrument do you play yoshi?

I played sousaphone in marching band.

Clarinet

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #898 (isolation #36) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:06 am

What's an enabler?

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #902 (isolation #37) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:13 am

In post 899, Gamma Emerald wrote:When an enabler is killed, all PRs they enable lose their power.

So... all BP's are no longer BP's once he dies?

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #905 (isolation #38) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:53 am

In post 355, doomfeathers wrote:Here are my top three possible scum right now, approximately in ascending order of strength:

Gerryoat
: Transcend's argument against him is good, but I'm having a hard time convincing my gut to agree, even though his ISO shows little that is actually helpful to the game. I'd need to see more from him before I have a decent read.

Gear
:
In post 324, Gear wrote:My gut says that Transcend is town, but if I wanted, I could make some sort of case on him, but I'd bet it would be wrong, so for the time being I'm going to stick with my gut, and see how things pan out.
This could come from either scum or town motivation. Gear could go either way.

iraonavp
:
He (she? something) has made enough posts not to be a real lurker, but hasn't actually posted much that's helpful. (In post 297, he townread Peregrine and null-read SpyreX, but didn't explain why. This is all the relevance he has contributed.) He seems to be flying under the radar.

VOTE: iraonavp

In post 362, Gamma Emerald wrote:Actually I like the iraonavp wagon idea more. He hasn't caught up but posted like he was.
...like he already knows everything...
VOTE: iraonavp

In post 365, gerryoat wrote:I'm fine with voting ira, dreal or transcend today. even if transcend is voting ira

VOTE: Iraonavp

Actually, Gerryoat, you were the third person to vote iraonavp. They briefly switched their votes, sure, but the process of voting iraonavp was not initiated by you.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #906 (isolation #39) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:58 am

In post 769, gerryoat wrote:Hey, BigYoshi, pleae explain where my day cop joke was used as an actual claim. When I was obviously just sayin git to my scumread. I feel like you went into today to try and find a way to fos me for me being the first on the ira lynch, but you're mistaken if you think you're gonna get me lynched today

Please explain to me where I said your fake day cop guilty was used as an actual claim. I just said it seemed scummy to me. Am I interpreting this wrong, I may very well be.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #908 (isolation #40) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:01 am

How many votes is Chaos at? Hold on, let me check.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #911 (isolation #41) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:04 am

In post 909, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also in case you didn't notice gerryoat made another EpicMafia-based error. He asked Chaos if they were going to claim being hit; I don't think you get notified of that here.

Do you find that scummy?

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #914 (isolation #42) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:06 am

In post 910, gerryoat wrote:
In post 895, Gear wrote:I have to get on a plane for 12 hours in 10 minutes, but I managed to look through the thread.

These people:
Transcend
drealmerz7
Gamma Emerald
SpyreX
Dunnstral
Bins
MariaR

need to kill these people:
ChaosOmega
gerryoat
Road Kamelot

probably in that order, and these people are on thin ice:
BigYoshiFan
grapes
PeregrineV
nice bad reads

What do you disagree with, besides you obviously.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #917 (isolation #43) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:08 am

Okay, well, ask him. I don't know whether I find this scummy or not, but why did I have to ask you why you thought his reads were bad?

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #918 (isolation #44) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:09 am

In post 912, gerryoat wrote:
In post 907, Dunnstral wrote:Do we really have to sit here and wait for chaos to get replaced

So that his replacement can come in and claim bp (or not)

So we can lynch them anyway

I intend to lynch Chaos no matter what he claims; let's get this show on the road
No need to rush. I think we give it time. Chillax

He's only got 2 votes. Well, now 3.
VOTE: ChaosOmega

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #926 (isolation #45) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:25 am

He's dead.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #950 (isolation #46) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:31 pm

In post 945, Gamma Emerald wrote:A better question is "why re you saying that to Bins?". What specifically makes you say that?

An even better question, why are you asking this?

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #952 (isolation #47) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:38 pm

I think he's saying that if he was scum, Bins would townread him. Right?

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #954 (isolation #48) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:43 pm

Alright, while you're here, who are your scumreads?

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #957 (isolation #49) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:50 pm

I don't understand why dunnstral isn't voting bins if he has a guilty on him.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #959 (isolation #50) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:54 pm

Did he ever hardclaim his role?

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #961 (isolation #51) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:01 pm

Okay, wait, so... is "guilty" used for any investigative role? So, if he was a tracker and saw him target iraonavp, is that considered a guilty?

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #965 (isolation #52) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:04 pm

Ah, okay, lemme re-read everything now. XD

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #967 (isolation #53) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:17 pm

I honestly don't know what to think about transcend. Anyone have meta reads on Transcend?
Also, either dunnstral was lying about his guilty or Bins is scum. Bins completely denied dunnstral's guilty, and dunnstral, he voted someone else. I'm confused.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #972 (isolation #54) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:22 pm

Okay, yes, sure.

BigYoshiFan · Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:19 pm

@Mod, V/LA until October 30th

Marching Band is in full gear this week! Performance for home football game today, practice Tuesday and Wednesday, performance at away football game on Friday, and competition @ NAU on Saturday. I should be able to post on Thursday but I anticipate I'll be doing HW the entire day. Please do me well and don't let me come back to find half the town dead. Thanks, and good luck!

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #1505 (isolation #56) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 4:57 pm

In post 1499, Dunnstral wrote:UNVOTE:
Guess I'll let Bins speak

If you don't want Transcend on L-1 for this reason, let me know.
VOTE: Transcend

L-1

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #1508 (isolation #57) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 5:06 pm

What kind of reaction test was that?

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #1510 (isolation #58) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 5:09 pm

??? He voted himself already.

BigYoshiFan · Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:37 am

Okay, got caught up. Sorry for my lack of posting. Not much to say besides that RK and dreal's reads make absolutely no sense to me, but at least RK's actions are consistent with his reads. I don't think dunnstral being alive makes Bins anymore townie.
VOTE: drealmerz7
His vote on dunnstral makes no sense and I don't like many of his posts.

You guys have anything for me?

BigYoshiFan · Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:41 am

In post 1655, gerryoat wrote:VOTE: drealmerz7

nahdia still might be other scum. but imma role with this for now.

Where does your scumread on Nahdia come from? If you've posted it already let me know and I'll just ISO you.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #1694 (isolation #61) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 5:09 pm

In post 1668, drealmerz7 wrote:ehhh, you don't know what I'm considering

you are mis-repping me entirely by saying I just want to lynch all the PR claims one after another

I was trying to keep it simple, decided to elaborate a bit, seems I got some interesting reactions that I'll try not to scumread

to resimple-fy:

liars must die in order that they lied

I could go for lynching YOSHI since he was the hammerer without a claim, but I'm reading him noobish, so am a little forgiving with it and prefer to LAL first

maybe I should go back and re-assess the lies

Okay, so, if you were to carry out your strategy of LAL, who would be your lynches and why?

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #1704 (isolation #62) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 5:17 pm

In post 1703, drealmerz7 wrote:I could vote the GE slot too. Yeesh, so much scummy in this game. Let's kill everyone!

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #1711 (isolation #63) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 5:22 pm

I guess that's as good of an answer I'll ever get.

BigYoshiFan · Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:49 am

I'm reading through this thread... and nothing is retaining in my head. I don't know if its the terminology, the slang, or a combination of both that throw me off, I just can't understand. I'll just ask questions as I go, starting here:
What do you mean Transcend coached me in thread? Like, the whole interaction I had with him was fake?

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #1814 (isolation #65) » Mon Nov 07, 2016 3:12 pm

In post 1812, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 1805, Bins wrote:but why??? you think transcend coached him in thread like that
daychat - why the need coach in thread? I just think it's possible it was an act, not a coach

that's so helpful dunnstral...that what you all decided to try for in scumchat?

uhhh, dunnstral "netted us transcend" ??? ?????????????????????????

so, dunn, PV, and...bins then?

I mean, if anything that's a town-hint unless he's acting like he didn't consider daychat.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #1831 (isolation #66) » Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:30 am

In post 1822, Dunnstral wrote:How did my naked vote get twisted into me trying to townslip by not knowing about daytalk

We're talking about Bins.

BigYoshiFan · Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:23 am

In post 1827, Gear wrote:
In post 213, MariaR wrote:
In post 212, drealmerz7 wrote:If you don't think I know what the word distancing is, then you don't understand that I was being silly.

I can't figure out YOUR thought process, and I'm not assuming you're a lost noob who doesn't know shade from an umbrella tree.

The only thought process I can "see" is : "hey, new guy! fresh meat! let's push him and see if we can make him crack and melt and be the D1 lynch" making assumptions about my experience level, and, not treating me with respect as a player because of that.

These things are scummy to me. and the more we interact, the more you dig yourself into that hole, which, I'm not even looking to put you in, but, you're just still at me after 4 pages of me not responding to your vote on me like you wanted me to? If this is your town game, wow.
Good sir you are overthinking and need to take a step back
This post by Maria seems townie to me. Yoshi, you have experience with her, do you think scum-Maria fakes this when she's buddies with Transcend?

I wouldn't townread her with this post. I think town-Maria would maybe provide an alternative thought or perhaps another lead, but I wouldn't scumread her because she was really lazy this game.

BigYoshiFan · Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:30 am

In post 1832, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 1830, Gear wrote:I forgot about gerry's fake town read on Chaos, add to that the abortive pushes between him and transcend, and he's better bet for scum than before.
I agree to an extent, but then when I look at broader, he seems to be flailing quite a bit, and flailing scum when it's 7v3 doesn't make sense, especially since the 1 scum killed netted a crap wagon. I suppose it could make sense that he's just really excited to secure such a 1-sided win and can't be patient for it to actually come and is sabotaging it in the process? Yeah, I can see that, but, it's weird still.

Is it just me?

BigYoshiFan · Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:04 pm

The one Tuesday I don't have band practice, and I have to watch America go to shit right in front of me.

BigYoshiFan · Wed Nov 09, 2016 12:19 pm

Sorry I've been lurking guys... I have so much on me right now.
I feel so rushed to catch up when I come back, that after I read through everything it goes out the other ear. I might even request a replacement.
Going over everything I missed, I no longer like my vote on drealmerz. His argument on Dunnstral was quite compelling in my opinion, but I still have a strong townread on him because, well, I don't see how Dunnstral gains anything by outting a partner like that. Personally, I think scum wouldn't be trying to lynch someone who outted a scum member. I do also like Gear for the quality of his posts.
Looking at Gerry, something I didn't like after Transcend's flip was the interaction they had at the beginning of the game. I don't know, seems like something they would do with how Transcend has played this game. Also, I don't like how Gerry is defending himself against PV in 1806 by saying he tunneled Transcend. I was a victim of his tunneling in a game where he was scum, and his tunneling then was some hardcore tunneling.
UNVOTE: drealmerz7
Hopefully more on PV later.

BigYoshiFan · Wed Nov 09, 2016 12:24 pm

Oh, and more on Nahdia too.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #2002 (isolation #72) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:07 am

Okay, like I promised, some reads on PV and Nahdia:

Something about PV that registers to me as scummy is those "filler" posts, if you know what I mean. Nothing really related to the game, just comments or things of the sort.
A lot of the things he's been doing and the reads he's been carrying out could be fake, but, I mean, he's putting in a lot of effort. Something in particular I liked was his VC analysis.
His posts are easy to understand (which I REALLY appreciate), provide ample evidence...
Overall, leantown.

I don't like Nahdia's interaction with Transcend. Also, in 1481, Nahdia voted Transcend out of the blue. It kinda says to me something like this:"Oh shit, my partner is gonna get lynched, better vote them so I don't become suspicious!" Also, many of their posts seems fake to me, but that's just me. :/

So... I'm down for a Nahdia or Gerry lynch. I think I've already explained why Gerry was scummy.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #2007 (isolation #73) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:22 pm

In post 2005, Bins wrote:u kno its pretty funny but i could easily entertain dunn scum because transcend was playing so "lololol" it really wouldnt surprise me if dunn and transcend were like "YO bud, let's get you to claim a guilty on me cause my role sucks and you'll be conf-fucking town and you realized how scummy ur claimed role looks so heres like a free pass at a win THANK ME LATER FOOLED YA TOWN"

[this is my transcend impression]

..
but im gonna push that out of my mind for now, lmfao.

[my apologies to dunn if u r 100% town and i am instilling freaky paranoia into the town---- is what i do best]

Did he not correctly identify your role? One of you is scummy as hell now.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #2008 (isolation #74) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:26 pm

Yeah, Bins, if he didn't correctly identify your role you would have said something. He should be confirmed town to you. You're really scummy to me now. That post is basically trying to get the most powerful town PR lynched.
VOTE: Bins[/unvote]

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #2009 (isolation #75) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:26 pm

Whoops. VOTE: Bins

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #2015 (isolation #76) » Sat Nov 12, 2016 9:02 am

Ugh, just kill me already. That was a logic slip, sorry Bins.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #2023 (isolation #77) » Sat Nov 12, 2016 5:50 pm

In post 2022, Titus wrote:Ok, I am going to need you to define terms.

D.C.?

Bully hammer?

What do you mean about 2015?

Dunno about D.C.

I think by bully hammer he means I was tempted into hammering by Transcend, but really I was tempted by many others. I can explain more if you want, but those others were asking for a lolhammer specifically. I can recall SpyreX, I'm sure there were others too.

He means post 2015.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #2049 (isolation #78) » Sun Nov 13, 2016 6:46 am

In post 2024, drealmerz7 wrote:DC = daychat *sighs a little*

yoshi was bullied into hammering iraonpv on D1 by transcend (so it appears) - it could have been staged, there could be a daychat of transcend going "hey, yoshi, I'm going to promise you the world and push push push you to hammer. Resist, delay, but finally do it as if you're giving into my pressuring, you'll get off clean! It'll be beautious! We'll run the table on these fucks, you watch!"

What do you think of something like that as a potentiality?

2015 - yoshi's post - I think he thinks he made scum slip and was expecting to be killed for it, which then is a slip of a non-slip, essentially

I don't think it was a scumslip. I just thought it was incredibly stupid of me.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #2053 (isolation #79) » Sun Nov 13, 2016 6:52 am

In post 2031, drealmerz7 wrote:I am thinking it was not addressed to bins in a scumchat, but just is scum addressing bins the player (sorry I tried to get you lynched!), thinking he made some "slip" about knowing bins was town because he's aware of the dunnstral shenanigans.

I mean, it could be meant to be to scum-bins in a scumchat I guess now that I look at it that way?

ffs

*has a laugh I guess*

If there was any slip it'd be that I automatically thought Dunnstral was town for his rolecop claim. Mafia rolecop didn't seem possible to me at the moment.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #2054 (isolation #80) » Sun Nov 13, 2016 6:53 am

In post 2025, drealmerz7 wrote:are you trying to derpclear yourself yoshi? that'd be slick if so

I don't know what to think, really, as it's been most of the game (except to kill transcend, I did know that, but otherwise, yeh, lies suck, LAL)

What do you mean by this?

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #2056 (isolation #81) » Sun Nov 13, 2016 6:56 am

In post 2055, Nahdia wrote:ok so when i hear "slip" the immediate association is "alignment" and i guess yoshi doesnt think of the word in that way.

Scumslip, sure.
Just "slip" than, no.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #2100 (isolation #82) » Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:27 pm

In post 2097, drealmerz7 wrote:yeahhhh

...

sliiiiipppppp

What slip?

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #2102 (isolation #83) » Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:47 pm

Okay I figured...

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #2104 (isolation #84) » Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:51 pm

Well, RK is a girl if you don't know who he's referring to when he said that.

BigYoshiFan · Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:31 am

In post 2138, Gear wrote:
In post 2002, BigYoshiFan wrote:I liked was his VC analysis.
You liked the analysis, or you liked that he did analysis?

I'll let you answer that. In fact, I think you already have.

In post 2138, Gear wrote:
In post 2007, BigYoshiFan wrote:
In post 2005, Bins wrote:u kno its pretty funny but i could easily entertain dunn scum because transcend was playing so "lololol" it really wouldnt surprise me if dunn and transcend were like "YO bud, let's get you to claim a guilty on me cause my role sucks and you'll be conf-fucking town and you realized how scummy ur claimed role looks so heres like a free pass at a win THANK ME LATER FOOLED YA TOWN"

[this is my transcend impression]

..
but im gonna push that out of my mind for now, lmfao.

[my apologies to dunn if u r 100% town and i am instilling freaky paranoia into the town---- is what i do best]
Did he not correctly identify your role? One of you is scummy as hell now.

In post 2008, BigYoshiFan wrote:Yeah, Bins, if he didn't correctly identify your role you would have said something. He should be confirmed town to you. You're really scummy to me now. That post is basically trying to get the most powerful town PR lynched.
VOTE: Bins[/unvote]
This is terrible.

I know, I have acknowledged this already with several facepalms and several minutes of head banging.

In post 2138, Gear wrote:
In post 2015, BigYoshiFan wrote:Ugh, just kill me already. That was a logic slip, sorry Bins.
Why no unvote?

Meh, I don't see too much of a reason to unvote. He's nowhere near being lynched and I don't townread him anymore. Actually, I'm gonna ISO him right now.

BigYoshiFan · Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:50 am

Bins is actually quite scummy to me because I see a lot of his posts as artificial and easy to fake. However, if he is scum, it might be worth leaving my suspicions on him for today to search for his partners who could have more powerful PR's. Also if he's scum I don't think Nahdia is scum, they don't seem like partners at all.

BigYoshiFan · Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:13 pm

In post 2159, Bins wrote:OMG IM A GIRL

SORRY.

BigYoshiFan · Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:15 pm

In post 2158, Titus wrote:
In post 2157, BigYoshiFan wrote:Bins is actually quite scummy to me because I see a lot of his posts as artificial and easy to fake. However, if he is scum, it might be worth leaving my suspicions on him for today to search for his partners who could have more powerful PR's. Also if he's scum I don't think Nahdia is scum, they don't seem like partners at all.
Then join us on Gear?

Nahdia won't vote Bins either, which is my first choice.

Let's get a decent wagon going.

We'll see... I thought he was townie for a while, his latest posts have shifted me back, but we'll see.

BigYoshiFan · Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:27 am

In post 2192, Gear wrote:On the other hand if Yoshi is town, I'd bet that the scum team is in Nadia, Peregrine, Gerry and Bins

You mean you think they are all mafia?

BigYoshiFan · Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:23 am

In post 2223, Gear wrote:
In post 2203, Dunnstral wrote:how did this Gear wagon gain so much traction
I suspect it's cause Yoshi is scum and Camelot is his buddy.

I'm failing to see how his wagon his because of me or RK.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #2240 (isolation #91) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:55 pm

ALL ABOARD THE BINS TRAIN, CHOO CHOO!

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #2300 (isolation #92) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:44 pm

In post 2296, Bins wrote:because im doctor and i will protect the conftown doi

@drealmerz7
Dunnstral said he is a 1-shot Odd-Night Doctor

He said he would use his ability for Dunnstral on Night 3, so he's no bigger threat to scum than any townie and I don't understand why he's scared of being killed.
VOTE: Bins

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #2306 (isolation #93) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:02 pm

UNVOTE: Bins
I'm done.
Also, FYI, all you asked was what his role was. It's a fairly straightforward question with a simple answer that can be provided by anyone (although I f***ed that up). The rest was my personal commentary that was provoked by me and only me. You accuse me of lurking and criticize when I don't.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #2308 (isolation #94) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:07 pm

Noted, sorry. I feel like this would have been a better response; one that would not have induced any offensive feelings.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #2310 (isolation #95) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:16 pm

Thanks. ^_^ *hug*
I'm at a loss for ideas right now. :/
ISO'ing people to see their interactions with Dunnstral didn't help.
I'll just stick to what I said earlier, maybe something will develop.
VOTE: Gerryoat

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #2322 (isolation #96) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:39 am

In post 2319, Gear wrote:
In post 2288, Road Kamelot wrote:Hey guys
Gear i dunno if u noticed but i was absent from the game in general there and you were firmly in my 'this person can go right ahead and ge lynched category;
but since its a new day and i now have time
VOTE: Gerry
I think this is a scummy response.

Why do you think I am scum?

Agreed, I dunno how I didn't see that.

BigYoshiFan · Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:23 am

In post 2323, Road Kamelot wrote:Yoshi i question what youre agreeing with in the above
what didnt you see that gear pointed out

I wasnt super confident in gear scum, still am not, would probs lynch Yoshi over gear if were hypothetically ignoring obvscum gerry
who apparently doesnt know why im scumreading him lol

You're switching votes without, essentially, any reason. Also, what's your scumread on me for?

BigYoshiFan · Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:27 am

Okay, last time I'm switching votes until this person starts talking.
VOTE: Nahdia

BigYoshiFan · Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:33 am

RK, you had townread me before Transcend died, yes? What was that townread for?

BigYoshiFan · Wed Nov 23, 2016 1:22 pm

That slip over me and Bins was just me being stupid and not realizing a mafia rolecop was a possibility. However, thinking that is wasn't a possibility, what was wrong with that case?

BigYoshiFan · Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:32 am

In post 2347, Gear wrote:
In post 2341, BigYoshiFan wrote:That slip over me and Bins was just me being stupid and not realizing a mafia rolecop was a possibility. However, thinking that is wasn't a possibility, what was wrong with that case?
This just makes me think that you are scum who knew Dunnstral was town.

This just makes me think that you are scum throwing shade on me when you need it and not when it was relevant the last day.
It looks bad, I know. I tried to make it very clear it wasn't a scumslip, but just a slip.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:37 am

In post 2345, Road Kamelot wrote:
In post 2326, BigYoshiFan wrote:
In post 2323, Road Kamelot wrote:Yoshi i question what youre agreeing with in the above
what didnt you see that gear pointed out

I wasnt super confident in gear scum, still am not, would probs lynch Yoshi over gear if were hypothetically ignoring obvscum gerry
who apparently doesnt know why im scumreading him lol
You're switching votes without, essentially, any reason. Also, what's your scumread on me for?
You talkin bout my gerry vote, which is a scumread i had yesterday?
In post 2327, BigYoshiFan wrote:Okay, last time I'm switching votes until this person starts talking.
VOTE: Nahdia
Yoshi thinka switching votes w/o reason is scummy
next post is yoshi being worried about switching too many votes

scum after gerry

Forgot your scumread on gerry. As I was reading it, it just seemed like you were spewing votes
Also, my vote on Nahdia is because they didn't talk since the beginning of the day.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:38 am

RK, answer my questions.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:03 pm

Vote Nahdia, get them to L-1. They haven't contributed at all today.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:06 pm

And yes, I am aware PV hasn't posted at all, but Nahdia has just been voting silently and it bugs me.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:11 pm

Then do it. You guys are against lurking, and yet you look over lurkers like Nahdia and PV. If you're dumb enough to lynch me, then fucking do it.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:27 pm

Oops, sorry.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:44 pm

In post 2373, Nahdia wrote:
In post 2361, BigYoshiFan wrote:Vote Nahdia, get them to L-1. They haven't contributed at all today.
Can I help you?

Yas, some reads or anything.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:58 pm

Also, I feel like drealmerz7's interaction with Dunn makes drealmerz townie. I'm kind of surprised I haven't heard this sooner or if it was too obvious or if it was WIFOM and no one wanted to say it, but he's really the only person I will absolutely not vote for.

BigYoshiFan · Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:27 am

In post 2383, Gear wrote:Actually, Nadia posting about tone there makes me think that she is subtlety trying to appeal to dreamerz the tone reader.

I'm surprised that no one said that about my most recent post.

BigYoshiFan · Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:30 am

In post 2382, Gear wrote:
In post 2380, Gear wrote:
In post 2376, Nahdia wrote:gear tonally reeks and every post of substance they make i disagree with. looks heavily like posturing fmpov.
There's no way that you believe this.
And it's classic scum overselling. Trying to beef up a "I disagree with you, so you're scum" argument.

Not necessarily. I think they are just trying to say you're posts seem misleading.

BigYoshiFan · Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:57 am

I suppose having another town PR on top of all the ones who are dead would be unlikely. I don't see it as impossible though.

BigYoshiFan · Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:56 pm

VOTE: Bins
L-2 I believe.

BigYoshiFan · Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:58 pm

In post 2403, Bins wrote:omg I'm not scum STOP.

please i know I've been playing awfully but I'm just straight up not

either way if you think I'm scum
and this is MYLO
it's probably a good idea to no lynch instead GIVEN my role then lynch me tmmr
or just lynch someone else

ehhhh, she has a point. I dunno how harmful it would be to keep you around if you were mafia, anyone have thoughts on that?

BigYoshiFan · Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:03 pm

Okay, well, how much harm do you think would be done by keeping a mafia doctor alive? If she was a town doctor, she could be valuable for this night.

BigYoshiFan · Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:22 am

I might hammer this, considering I never liked Nahdia anyway. I'm just really scared if they are town.

BigYoshiFan · Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:34 am

I dunno, Bins' most recent posts seem... off, to me. Great, I've got that nervous feeling again. Good thing I'll forget about it at school.

BigYoshiFan · Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:56 am

RK, vote someone already.

BigYoshiFan · Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:41 pm

Actually I hope RK gets replaced. New people = New perspectives and this game needs some fire.

BigYoshiFan · Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:19 am

If we're looking into other lynch options then I'll take my vote off so Bins isn't in danger of being hammered, and I'd advise someone on Nahdia's wagon do the same.
I mean... yeah Bins' role is something I wouldn't wanna lynch but at the same time, Bins gets more and more suspicious to me as we go on.
It's not something I can describe too well, and if I did it'd end up being a lot of superstition talk.
I never considered a Gear lynch because, well, I thought the lynch of the day would definitely be Nahdia or Bins, so I'll look into that right now.

Before I take my vote off, are we actually considering other lynches?

BigYoshiFan · Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:05 pm

You know RK, I'm glad you brought up a Gear lynch. His posts seems very artificial and shallow.
Reading through his ISO:
- His reads were shit, if anything, they weren't well backed-up
- He's consistent with these reads, yet never makes an effort to explain these reads in depth (except mine, but he kinda had to otherwise his vote would be hella suspicious)
Some more on this, I feel like he made these long read posts so he can vote whoever he "scumread" and use his previous reads posts as reason why his vote isn't bullshit. I can't really see any other purpose to those posts because they don't have much reason involved with his reads and certainly won't convince other players of his reads, just to serve as a placeholder he can refer back to if anyone ever questioned his reads/votes.
- A lot of his posts are filler one-liners in my opinion (ESPECIALLY his most recent posts)
- Also, his posts, they contain very simple reasoning.
I'm really bad at explaining reads that aren't based on stone cold facts. I encourage you all to read through his ISO and maybe try and help me explain or tell me why Gear is town.
For now: VOTE: Gear
I've even lost this nervous feeling I had earlier because I'm that confident he's scum as compared to Bins/Nahdia.

P-edit: @Gerry, we have 4 days

BigYoshiFan · Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:45 am

I am here, sorry. More from me to come, but anticipate a drealmerz7 vote from me. Probably, I dunno, his reads have shifted A LOT. Also, I'm not sure, but if he followed my vote on Gear he looks much more scummy to me. I believed he claimed to have a long history of scumreading him, I'll find out in his ISO. Also, someone asked why I swapped my vote to Gear, and the simple answer is he's a player I've not been paying much attention to him. When RK brought him up I thought I'd check his ISO and it didn't look very good to me, full of filler and shitty reads (in that they weren't defended very well).

@drealmerz7, please describe your vote on me. My hammer without a claim is not a valid reason, because you just did that. You had an excuse, don't remember what, but I don't think it accounts for much. PoE is fine, but you've made it clear throughout these days that that is not the case for your vote on me. Also, describe your vote on PV. Sorry if anything I asked you to do is the subject of a post you've already made.

I had more to say... but I literally forgot everything I wanted to say as I was writing this. Something else I hope to do is analyze interactions and relations between people and Nahdia. Not sure if that is something that has already been presented, but it'd be helpful to do anyway.

BigYoshiFan · Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:27 pm

In post 2512, drealmerz7 wrote:you fucking serious?

after all that I was thinking gear was town and it is byf and PV that are the scum with bins

ffs

well, at least it won't be on me, right?

UNVOTE: bins
VOTE: gear

BINS....don't think this means you've won...it's just...the pain must end...and hey, maybe I'm wrong!!! yeah! let's hope for that!

Please explain where your read on Gear suddenly changed from scummy to town and why.

BigYoshiFan · Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:32 pm

In post 2524, drealmerz7 wrote:VOTE: BigYoshiFan
#2 BYF for being the hammerer w/ no claim

In post 2515, drealmerz7 wrote: the preview did come up, and I did see it, but, mehhh, fuckit, do we really want to go back and forth again? was my thought, it was kind of impulsive and it waslike 'OMG THE RED BUTTON DO OR NOT YES YES YES GOGOGO!" and I pressed it

I can't understand why you are voting me. Your only reason (I think, correct me if I am wrong), is for the hammer I did on D1. I even had the same "WEEEEE, FUCK IT!" thought process as I was voting. Please, explain to me all of your reads in some depth to where I can understand them.

BigYoshiFan · Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:18 pm

In post 2558, drealmerz7 wrote:I always figure for 1/4 rounded down

16 has 4, no doubt (whereas 15 I 'figure' at 3, but not assume)

Agreed. I am going to assume there are 4 mafia in this game, but 3 isn't impossible.
I dunno, I feel like with all the town PR's flipped, this game would have 4? Is that reasonable?

BigYoshiFan · Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:26 pm

In post 2355, drealmerz7 wrote:oh I'm on bins again oops

UNVOTE: bins

VOTE: gear

In post 2512, drealmerz7 wrote:you fucking serious?

after all that I was thinking gear was town and it is byf and PV that are the scum with bins

ffs

well, at least it won't be on me, right?

UNVOTE: bins
VOTE: gear

BINS....don't think this means you've won...it's just...the pain must end...and hey, maybe I'm wrong!!! yeah! let's hope for that!

Clearly you're still scumreading Gear in 2355, and you don't mention anything about Gear until 2512.

BigYoshiFan · Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:19 pm

I haven't been paying attention?

BigYoshiFan · Fri Dec 02, 2016 4:09 pm

Get your reads in order. I don't think my scumread on you is as strong as I thought now, but a huge part of why I voted you is because your reads were never clear.

BigYoshiFan · Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:27 am

In post 2573, gerryoat wrote:gut says if there is two it's dreal and titus. but not really sure right now.

Can you elaborate on this?

BigYoshiFan · Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:44 am

No lynch could also be a possibility from me. If there is 4 mafia then this is MYLO, as Bins can only protect on odd nights and I sure as hell doubt there is another town protective or town killing role.

BigYoshiFan · Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:13 am

In post 2579, Bins wrote:No lynch is a very mediocre idea considering scum can just kill me.

Either way, I feel like lynching out of BYF/dreal is the game plan rn. I really don't see reason to scumread or suspect anyone on the Nahdia wagon when it was Nahdia v me.

Can't scum kill you even if someone is lynched?

BigYoshiFan · Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:58 am

VOTE: No Lynch

BigYoshiFan · Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:35 am

In post 2589, drealmerz7 wrote:no it seems that no matter how I play it is turning out bad in this game

it's not my goal at all

it's my hell

So... you've decided not to contribute whatsoever? That's your solution?

BigYoshiFan · Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:56 am

A scum vig? XD

BigYoshiFan · Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:17 pm

In post 2606, gerryoat wrote:I'm saying say there is a "Night 6 Mafia Vig" is that not allowed in these games or something?

I mean... how could you even be considering that?

BigYoshiFan · Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:45 am

In post 2646, PeregrineV wrote:Not getting the no-lynch thing

In the case of 4 mafia, this would be MYLO (probably, unless other power roles exist). I'm not confident on any lynch today, although I probably wouldn't be tomorrow either. UGH. I'm good with a No Lynch, possibly a vote on drealmerz7.
UNVOTE: No Lynch

BigYoshiFan · Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:44 pm

In post 2650, Titus wrote:
In post 2647, BigYoshiFan wrote:
In post 2646, PeregrineV wrote:Not getting the no-lynch thing
In the case of 4 mafia, this would be MYLO (probably, unless other power roles exist). I'm not confident on any lynch today, although I probably wouldn't be tomorrow either. UGH. I'm good with a No Lynch, possibly a vote on drealmerz7.
UNVOTE: No Lynch
Ok, maybe I can get behind a lynch here. This seems fake.

You sure changed your read quick.

BigYoshiFan · Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:34 am

In post 2658, drealmerz7 wrote:that makes me think gerry+PV are his buddies

cause it's def not me

I don't know how you got that from those posts :/
To me they don't really mean anything.

BigYoshiFan · Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:30 am

In post 2522, Titus wrote:Ok, I think Bins is scummy but my reads are shit. Bins based on votes shouldn't be lynched.

I am a wee bit swamped for the first couple days.

In post 2581, Titus wrote:
In post 2579, Bins wrote:No lynch is a very mediocre idea considering scum can just kill me.

Either way, I feel like lynching out of BYF/dreal is the game plan rn. I really don't see reason to scumread or suspect anyone on the Nahdia wagon when it was Nahdia v me.
Many games have been lost assuming scum were not wagoned against each other. You're likely town but not cleared.

In post 2427, Titus wrote:VOTE: Bins

Drealmerz, no.

Nahdia is town.

BigYoshiFan · Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:32 am

Whoops, those quotes are supposed to be with this posts, not in that order either but:
Titus, I don't like how your reads are radically shifting. This one on Bins for example, your one on me for a seemingly fake post even though you had a "strong" townread on me, and possibly one on drealmerz. Could you explain the process by which you formed reads on us since like... the beginning of day 5? Your predeccesor has me townreading you naturally, but now I'm not so sure.

BigYoshiFan · Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:35 am

I'm pretty sure I know who the vig is, but I'll leave it to them on whether they want to be revealed or not.

BigYoshiFan · Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:15 am

I'm not the vig.

BigYoshiFan · Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:18 am

BigYoshiFan · Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:21 am

I really don't know what to do.

BigYoshiFan · Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:56 am

My gut tells me drealmerz7, but I don't know if I consider it a gut because there's nothing else that is providing conflict with that decision other than simple uncertainty.

BigYoshiFan · Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:57 am

Wait there is, I forgot. If there is 4 scum this is MYLO, and I'm not risking that chance.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:56 am

Sorry for my inactivity, anticipate a vote on drealmerz.
These most recent posts have convinced me drealmerz scum and PV town, PV's posts really spoke to me in clarity and argumentative value.
Drealmerz going back to his vote on me for that same damn reason on his posts on this page seems like he's on his last breaths now.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:00 pm

You keep bringing up this bullshit reason for voting me, and that's for the hammer.
I had more approval than disapproval for the hammer, go argue with those people too when this game is over.
Hold up, lemme quote something of yours I had a rebuttal to.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:01 pm

In post 2810, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 2192, Gear wrote:On the other hand if Yoshi is town, I'd bet that the scum team is in Nadia, Peregrine, Gerry and Bins

What's the point of this? Is this supposed to imply the scum is in PV, Gerry and Bins?

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:02 pm

In post 2819, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 2816, Titus wrote:So, maybe your point isn't valid and you need to state reasons?
no

point still valid and those are my reasons

don't hammer without a claim, ever - yep, you can call me a hypocrite in this 1 game only that should be understandable why I hammered when I did (omg the pain)

at least I thought gear was very possibly scum, I don't think BYF had any such read on iraonpv

I did.

In post 481, BigYoshiFan wrote:Okay, I've caught up as much as I could allow my brain to read. I'm sorry if you don't like townblocks but here's mine: PeregrineV, Doomfeathers (not really a block, but whatever)
In terms of scum, I'm completely flustered. I've got a lot of people on my list for potential scum, but my strongest are Iraonavp and bins.
Ira really because upon entering the game, instead of catching up he's just asking who to lynch. He acknowledges he's catching up in 308, but doesn't really offer any reads or questions from before that.
Bins also for not making an effort to catch up and his posts. His posts... they ping me. I don't know if it's the lack of punctuation, or lack of actual information and analysis, but something just seems off.
I don't know if making reads because they don't feel like catching up is an accurate method of scumhunting but... I don't know. I'm tired.
I'll focus some more on the recent posts.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:11 pm

In post 2817, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 2515, drealmerz7 wrote:I was posting simultaneously...

the preview did come up, and I did see it, but, mehhh, fuckit, do we really want to go back and forth again? was my thought, it was kind of impulsive and it waslike 'OMG THE RED BUTTON DO OR NOT YES YES YES GOGOGO!" and I pressed it

This reasoning makes you as guilty as I am for the lynch, maybe even more because you don't even mention a scumread on Gear in this post.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:16 pm

In post 2833, drealmerz7 wrote:which is why I feel I need to root myself in my principled course of action:

lynch the hammerer of a no-claim - you know better, no matter how new you are, and you've demonstrated as such (titus this is more of the argument for BYF, again)

Oh my god isn't that what you were trying to do with me?
VOTE: drealmerz7

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:47 pm

In post 2836, Titus wrote:Namely Gear had a scumread on PV, and no one seems to be doing that but me, which is suspect imo.

I don't like this game state.

I know I have 67% odds of guessing right by poe but I hate a drealmerz lynch.

What's your thinking about him? Anything you've gathered from him in the last page because it seems like flailing to me.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:55 pm

In post 2839, Titus wrote:Drealmerz is either very careless or scum.

As of now, 1 scum must be voting Drealmerz. Who do you think it is?

I beg to differ. I don't think scum is on this wagon. Can't decide between dreal/Titus or dreal/Bins, and that is mostly from PoE.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:57 pm

Nevermind, probably not dreal/Bins. I know, sorry.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:58 pm

I was thinking this could have just been a bus, but I forgot Bins voted drealmerz down to L-1, right?

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:00 pm

In post 2848, Bins wrote:Gonna hammer in like 10min lol

NONONONO NOT WITHOUT A CLAIM! XD

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:03 pm

In post 632, Bins wrote:...if you hammer without a claim I will pewpew

BigYoshiFan · Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:00 pm

I think Gamma claimed vig. Titus replaced Gamma, and he wasn't cc'ed when he claimed.

BigYoshiFan · Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:07 am

Drealmerz - 1
PV - 2
Bins - 3
Titus/Gerry - 5

And yes, agreed.

BigYoshiFan · Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:16 am

This is the most epic prodge of all time.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:34 am

Yup, I got finals too.

So, there is only one scum left, and therefore I can see Bins being scum again, but I can't see a motivation to kill Titus if Bins was scum. :/
I think I'm left here as bait to be honest.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:35 am

Do we want any time to converse first or just get on with the night?

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:08 pm

Let's wait for PV to respond first.

BigYoshiFan · Sun Dec 18, 2016 11:42 am

no prod plz

BigYoshiFan · Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:49 pm

VOTE: No Lynch
Why not?

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:52 am

Any chance that you want to claim that you shot Nahdia, PV?

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:44 am

VOTE: PV

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:09 pm

In post 669, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 666, BigYoshiFan wrote:
In post 665, Road Kamelot wrote:so youre worried about looking suspicious
And not about accidentally hammering a town PR?
Youve got your priorities crossed if youre town
What? That's why I am waiting for a claim.

They should have claimed earlier, when they came in to deny calling people fat. L-2 with suspicion and momentum, and nothing to work or diffuse it.

In post 1182, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1171, SpyreX wrote:Doom was pure raw town. It's not the way i would have killed but id have been willing to fake a guilty to hang nonbelievers.

I'm not against the chaos lynch just mega damn paranoid. Its too easy and me knowing bps exist well
I'm willing to wait for a Choas response of any worth.

In post 1554, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1549, Dunnstral wrote:Hey remember how I said to wait to hammer

Are you two who quick hammered scum or something? I wasn't even on the lynch

Highly likely. Both read everything posted, saw Transcend self-voting, saw your request, and voted him anyway.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:24 pm

Oh my god I suck at life. Those are supposed to be with this post, but I guess I'll continue anyway.
So, the first one PV is content with me hammering. Following that reasoning, Ira flips town, and PV leaves. I find that suspicious myself, and he never came to help me whenever I was being lambasted for hammering Ira.
Ignore the second quote, I dunno why I quoted that.
The last quote, seems opportunistic. He wasn't even on the wagon for Transcend's lynch, but he seems to have found a way to get attention on us for hammering the scumbag. I believe Dunnstral wanted to wait for Bins, who had her say and voted Transcend anyway, so I don't see what the issue was. Also, if I am following the logic PV gave me for Ira's lynch, Transcend had plenty of time and opprtunities to defend himself, which he didn't. I don't see how this would make me likely to be scum in his eyes.

Overall, no one has ever really townread him, and is there much of a reason to? Also, these recent days, he was very adamant on drealmerz lynch. I don't think he's made an effort like that all game. His posts asking Bins to hammer looks like he's trying to frame her, but to guarantee a kill, he killed her anyway. Seriously Gerry, where is there any evidence to support that he is town?

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:25 pm

Great! We're all here.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:26 pm

In post 3006, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3003, gerryoat wrote:Oh ffs. why couldn't I have died. I'll hammer within the next few days. Give me your cases on each other.
Case?

Sure.

I'm town. You're town. The game is not over.

That leaves Yoshi as scum.

If it helps, his first post of the day is not presuming I'm scum, which I 100% have to be to his eyes.

But, are you looking for anything else?

Of course I'm presuming you're scum. Really the only chance, however slim, to convince me otherwise is to claim you shot Nahdia. That is why I asked, to absolutely confirm over everything else that you are scum to me.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:49 pm

In post 3012, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3010, BigYoshiFan wrote:
In post 3006, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3003, gerryoat wrote:Oh ffs. why couldn't I have died. I'll hammer within the next few days. Give me your cases on each other.
Case?

Sure.

I'm town. You're town. The game is not over.

That leaves Yoshi as scum.

If it helps, his first post of the day is not presuming I'm scum, which I 100% have to be to his eyes.

But, are you looking for anything else?
Of course I'm presuming you're scum. Really the only chance, however slim, to convince me otherwise is to claim you shot Nahdia. That is why I asked, to absolutely confirm over everything else that you are scum to me.
Why would I ever try to convince you of anything?
You had to kill Bins to be able to end-game because she (should have) protected gerry, but he can't be scum to me since I figured he was the vig.

Okay... why is this specific to me? Gerry publicly claimed vig, so it's not far-fetched of you to kill Bins as you make it to be.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:49 pm

In post 3013, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 883, Transcend wrote:
In post 881, Road Kamelot wrote:
In post 870, gerryoat wrote:it would be nice if we lynched in: transcend, drealz, BigYoshi.
Nah dreal towntold a few pages back
totally w ya on Transcend tho kill that one

And bigyoshi isnt on a team with transcend i dont think
We are
Here Transcend points out that he and Yoshi are on the same team.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:50 pm

In post 1535, Transcend wrote:Anyways since I'm a nice guy,
my 3 scum partners
are one who is universally townread and ascetic, one who bussed me pretty hard, and one who will probably unfortunately get lynched

SINCE IM A NICE GUY!!!!!!!!! I WILL CATEGORIZE THEM FOR U

~Universally Townread and Ascetic~
BigYoshiFan
Gamma Emerald
Nahdia
PeregrineV
SpyreX

~Bussed me pretty hard >:(~
Dunnstral
gerryoat
Road Kamelot

~Prob gettin lynched tomorrow ~
Bins
drealmerz7
Gear

Some people are in multiple categories but I made it easy for you.

And here he says he had 3 scum partners.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:44 pm

In post 3018, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3016, BigYoshiFan wrote:
In post 1535, Transcend wrote:Anyways since I'm a nice guy,
my 3 scum partners
are one who is universally townread and ascetic, one who bussed me pretty hard, and one who will probably unfortunately get lynched

SINCE IM A NICE GUY!!!!!!!!! I WILL CATEGORIZE THEM FOR U

~Universally Townread and Ascetic~
BigYoshiFan
Gamma Emerald
Nahdia
PeregrineV
SpyreX

~Bussed me pretty hard >:(~
Dunnstral
gerryoat
Road Kamelot

~Prob gettin lynched tomorrow ~
Bins
drealmerz7
Gear

Some people are in multiple categories but I made it easy for you.
And here he says he had 3 scum partners.
Except he doesn't, since there are only 3 of you.

I'm not that stupid. The reason I posted that is to show that not everything he says is credible.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:54 pm

In post 3017, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3014, BigYoshiFan wrote:
In post 3012, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3010, BigYoshiFan wrote:
In post 3006, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3003, gerryoat wrote:Oh ffs. why couldn't I have died. I'll hammer within the next few days. Give me your cases on each other.
Case?

Sure.

I'm town. You're town. The game is not over.

That leaves Yoshi as scum.

If it helps, his first post of the day is not presuming I'm scum, which I 100% have to be to his eyes.

But, are you looking for anything else?
Of course I'm presuming you're scum. Really the only chance, however slim, to convince me otherwise is to claim you shot Nahdia. That is why I asked, to absolutely confirm over everything else that you are scum to me.
Why would I ever try to convince you of anything?
You had to kill Bins to be able to end-game because she (should have) protected gerry, but he can't be scum to me since I figured he was the vig.
Okay... why is this specific to me? Gerry publicly claimed vig, so it's not far-fetched of you to kill Bins as you make it to be.
Because Bins was only a claim that had not been validated in any form.
There has been a kill every night, and the doctor was still alive?

That would have created way more doubt than leaving confirmed town alive.

Gerry was clear, he will be protected. Who is easier for you to lynch, Bins or me? Your choice.

I knew he was vig back when I said it. If I were scum, I woulnd't have pushed any of that shit, I would have just killed him.

I doubt you pushing it made him claim, he would have claimed regardless.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:55 pm

In post 3021, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 2026, Nahdia wrote:
In post 2015, BigYoshiFan wrote:Ugh, just kill me already. That was a logic slip, sorry Bins.
explain this shit

In post 2027, Nahdia wrote:i feel like im in the goddamn twilight zone why is no one reacting to this post that looks like something that was meant for the scum thread
She made swipes at you, but couldn't really sustain it what with only being 3 of you.

Okay????

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:00 pm

Fine. I don't see how someone who is a townie would just leave it at that.

P-edit: Okay, but are you only analyzing how she interacted with me? What about the other way around, I don't think my ISO makes me seem scummy with her.

BigYoshiFan · Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:17 pm

I've explained my reasoning for that vote change, and you didn't mention any suspicions about that shift when it occurred.

BigYoshiFan · Sun Dec 25, 2016 9:06 pm

I hate to be the bearer of bad news Gerry.

BigYoshiFan · Sun Dec 25, 2016 9:34 pm

I got so pissed when you shot Nahdia. XD
Good shot btw.

BigYoshiFan · Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:06 am

In post 3036, Transcend wrote:YOSHI!!!!!!!

YOU DID IT!!!!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
*high five*

BigYoshiFan · Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:29 am

So, dead folks, who were y'all thinking was scum between me and PV?

BigYoshiFan · Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:44 am

Oh. XD
Can't wait to read it.

BigYoshiFan · Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:19 pm

The confidence for me in the thread is... truly riveting. XD

BigYoshiFan · Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:02 pm

In post 3056, drealmerz7 wrote:haha

I enjoyed playing with you yoshi, definitely will look for you in future games! sillyme for letting you live and not rage-tunneling you for that hammer

So glad you kinda did it too so I had something to use as defense!
I had fun with you too! Hope to see you in another game.

BigYoshiFan · Tue Dec 27, 2016 3:50 pm

That was very fortunate for us, ChaosOmega's lynch.

BigYoshiFan · Tue Dec 27, 2016 11:02 pm

In post 3064, Transcend wrote:you weren't half bad in the beginning i admit

Agreed.