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Post Post #3 (isolation #0) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:05 pm

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Post Post #20 (isolation #1) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:08 pm

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I think Dunnstral may be for highlighting what he thought was a soft in thread. Rather than, you know, taking it back to the scumthread and parsing what it may actually allude to.

I mean, he coulda done both, but my inclination is to think someone wouldn't bring up the same topic in two places. Maybe. I dunno. Maybe not.
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Post Post #21 (isolation #2) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:08 pm

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may be town* for
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Post Post #24 (isolation #3) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:16 pm

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In post 22, Staeg wrote:
In post 20, Nahdia wrote:I think Dunnstral may be [town] for highlighting what he thought was a soft in thread. Rather than, you know, taking it back to the scumthread and parsing what it may actually allude to.

I mean, he coulda done both, but my inclination is to think someone wouldn't bring up the same topic in two places. Maybe. I dunno. Maybe not.
Do you think scum would have any way to work off that... soft? I mean, you must, since otherwise--
Iunno, Dunn seems to think so.
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Post Post #26 (isolation #4) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:22 pm

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In post 23, pirate mollie wrote:avoid camn so she won't figure me out
y would u do this as town, u fiend?
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Post Post #41 (isolation #5) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:52 pm

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nah u wrong fam.
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Post Post #44 (isolation #6) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:59 pm

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idk i never watched that show
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Post Post #46 (isolation #7) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:03 pm

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realtalk dont u dare fam
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Post Post #48 (isolation #8) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:10 pm

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don't do it i'll cry and it'll be all your fault.
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Post Post #103 (isolation #9) » Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:48 am

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Yes. Me. Whiteknighting. On page 1. Of course. Yes. You got me.

SAD is a sad, grumpy man.

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Post Post #107 (isolation #10) » Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:00 am

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Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Pirate mollie is prob town too actually.
Because of their posts or because I'm voting them?
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Post Post #109 (isolation #11) » Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:07 am

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Ok well I disagree so far. I would be more inclined to take another look except I already know your top scumread is wrong so I don't really have much faith in your accuracy.
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Post Post #111 (isolation #12) » Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:14 am

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I'd love to, Ser Arthur Dayne.
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Post Post #123 (isolation #13) » Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:39 am

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In post 122, pirate mollie wrote:I am sure that at any second that nahdia is going to swoop in and wow us with her fantastic case on me.
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Post Post #176 (isolation #14) » Wed Dec 28, 2016 3:21 pm

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you didn't roll the second R in heartbreaking!
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Post Post #196 (isolation #15) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:08 am

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In post 189, Staeg wrote:Is this important?
dunno, but i felt like pointing it out.

i'm not really on board with the infinity lynch. nothing they've done has come off as really towny or really scummy to me. they look like b8, or can someone explain the super advanced high level mafia theory behind voting them?
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Post Post #226 (isolation #16) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:43 am

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Post Post #234 (isolation #17) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 1:14 pm

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Rc I don't scumread SAD so no, it's not an OMGUS. I'm just telling him he's wrong. Which he is. As are you.
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Post Post #235 (isolation #18) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 1:19 pm

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Bask in your wrongness. Revel in it. Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. You're wrong. And it's all your fault. You have failed. You are the embodiment of failure. So incredibly wrong. So powerfully wrong. For years to come, bards will tell the tale of the paltry man who was so amazing wrong that it shook the foundation of the institution of wrongness.
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Post Post #236 (isolation #19) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 1:19 pm

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VOTE: RedCoyote
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Post Post #237 (isolation #20) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 1:20 pm

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^ Take note. That's what an OMGUS is. Now you know. Now you can be slightly less wrong in the future. It wrong matter though, because you are wrongness incarnate and where you go, wrongness follows.
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Post Post #239 (isolation #21) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 1:26 pm

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In conclusion:

Suck. My. Dick. RedCoyote.
Dunnstral wrote:Why did you vote me nahdia?
Why not? I reviewed all the slots and decided I wanted to vote you. But fear not. For now the coyote has shown its true colors. Or, true color; red. Red like the pen of an high school teacher grading the algebra test of a soon-to-be drop out. Because he's wrong. Or maybe it's the red of mafia. That's also possible.
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Post Post #240 (isolation #22) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 1:28 pm

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Soon I too will be red. Red from the blood of my enemies soaking my clothes, enveloping my body. Filling my every orifice.
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Post Post #256 (isolation #23) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:27 am

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In post 253, RedCoyote wrote:You think he's town, but you refuse to acknowledge his reads? Someone can think a person is town and wrong, but they generally aren't as dismissive as you're coming across.

"SAD is wrong about me therefore he's irrelevant" I didn't like the post. There's no willingness to communicate. It feels gross and separative.
Fair enough. All I can say in response to this is that yeah, that's pretty much on target with my standard level of sass I play mafia with. I discredit people that scumread me as both alignments until I feel like the arguments they're making have some amount of validity. Which, right now I think this most recent point does. So, good for you and stuff.

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Post Post #262 (isolation #24) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:58 am

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In post 258, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:My biggest problem with Nahdia is from what I've seen her townplay she plays p... hmm what's the word? Confident? Blunt? Just more of "matter-of-fact" style. Like "X is doing this" "Y is town" "Z is scum". Here she seems to be waffly queen.
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Post Post #263 (isolation #25) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:01 pm

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Yes, I'm blunt, but how on earth did you read DEFCON 4.0 and somehow get "confident" as a descriptor for me? The fuck are you on?
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Post Post #264 (isolation #26) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:05 pm

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And like, forgive me if after that game I'm going to be especially hesitant on legit everything.
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Post Post #267 (isolation #27) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:17 pm

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it was an open setup. if i have plans in this game, im certainly not gonna be broadcasting them.
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Post Post #274 (isolation #28) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:18 pm

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If I knew, don't you think I woulda said so? Unless I was scum I guess, then I would pretend I didn't know. But I'm not scum, and just I don't know.

I think maybe Dunnstral though. He activated my trap card. By which I mean, he did something in particular which I find is generally slightly more likely to come from someone who is mafia than town. And also just in general he feels tonally off. It's by no means a super confident read, but it's what I've got rn.
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Post Post #277 (isolation #29) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:32 pm

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In post 275, Infinity 324 wrote:What's the point of the first paragraph?
Whimsy.
In post 275, Infinity 324 wrote:Can you try to explain the dunn thing a bit more?
I read it again, and actually, the thing I thought happened didn't happen. I misread a post. So that thing didn't happen. But I'm still voting him because I dunno, cause I can. No one has really pinged me yet and just looking at ISO's, his feels the most.... contrived? That's not even really the right word, but it's close. It's that one thing. That one thing he's got. It's like when One Direction sings about that girl and they say "I don't know what it is, but you've got that one thing". Dunnstral has that one thing, just like that girl. Except, instead of making him a desirable chick for a group of British boy band singers, it makes him scummy.
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Post Post #279 (isolation #30) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:52 pm

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I wouldn't describe his play as whimsical.
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Post Post #281 (isolation #31) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:06 pm

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Unremarkable.
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Post Post #346 (isolation #32) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:04 am

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ive decided dunnstral is town again.

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Post Post #380 (isolation #33) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:04 pm

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In post 367, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 346, Nahdia wrote:ive decided dunnstral is town again.

VOTE: pirate mollie
if you think I am scum then plz explain why

thnx

a vacuous post with limited reasoning doesn't sit well with me. granted, there are a lot of vacuous posts but I think it be wonderful if you cld go back and answer the questions that you ignored.
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Post Post #382 (isolation #34) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:10 pm

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oooo I'm scared.
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Post Post #383 (isolation #35) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:10 pm

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Mercy me, pirate mollie, you voted me. I'm just so terrified. I'll do whatever you say. Just don't kill me. I don't want to die.
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Post Post #386 (isolation #36) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:20 pm

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In post 353, pirate mollie wrote:posts to are pretty interesting considering I think the whole convo is unremarkable which is what nahdia is saying about dunn's play while describing her own as "whimsical".

I am not sure what the super clever trap that nahdia laid that dunn fell into cos she hasn't explained it.
In post 282, Infinity 324 wrote:Ok I kind of understand that.

I see a lot of different thoughts going different ways with dunn's posts and a lot of vote hops, which I tend to associate with town. That's what I meant by whimsical. What do you think.
^ nahdia never answered this. nahdia/dunn exchanges look awful and they look like:

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i just never saw it.

to answer; null. It can be town, sure, but it's real easy to fake as scum too. I've townread that kind of thing before and it's gotten me burned.
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In post 346, Nahdia wrote:ive decided dunnstral is town again.

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if you think I am scum then plz explain why

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a vacuous post with limited reasoning doesn't sit well with me. granted, there are a lot of vacuous posts but I think it be wonderful if you cld go back and answer the questions that you ignored.
you're asking a lot of questions and throwing a lot of shade, but i don't see you doing much more than that. to put it another way, i think your ISO looks like a series of posturing & pivoting and not actually scumhunting.
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Post Post #389 (isolation #37) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:38 pm

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In post 387, pirate mollie wrote:what I don't like is that you don't seem top care where it goes.
It's day 1, so you're right, I don't/
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Post Post #391 (isolation #38) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:43 pm

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I can't tell you what to do, fam.
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Post Post #393 (isolation #39) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:01 pm

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I figured the answer would be evident.

Can I? Yes. Will I? Probably not, unless you can convince me of a read to push with conviction. Which would also require you to convince me you're town, in all likelihood. I don't buy into an delusions that I have a good idea of the game state. Rarely do I push hard on anything on day 1. So like I said; I don't particularly care which way the wind blows for now. I'll give my opinions, and people shall do as they will. I'm not going to urge people to join me until I have some measure of confidence in what I'm pushing.
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Post Post #401 (isolation #40) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:51 pm

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In post 397, camntsuki wrote:also- anyone wanna take odds on nacho and dreamerz being scum together?
dreal is town.
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Post Post #403 (isolation #41) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:58 pm

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yup.
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Post Post #406 (isolation #42) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:10 pm

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In post 405, pirate mollie wrote:am I voting nahdia? their play is pretty much "I am too kewl for this gig" which is fucking awful.
That's a fundamental misunderstanding if ever there was one.

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Post Post #413 (isolation #43) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:26 pm

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In post 404, drealmerz7 wrote:why/how do you say that with such confidence, nahdia?
I mean, overall I've been leaning town on you from the start. But I say it now with confidence because of a specific mindset you seem to be putting forward which is one I don't think you can fake. I mean, sure you could write the words, but I don't honestly believe you would KNOW to fake it.

Trying to understand someone's frame of mind is important to me even though I often fail at it. There are easy labels for different mindsets like "frustrated", "lazy", "sarcastic", etc, but in reality things are rarely so simple. There are shades of grey so to speak. And while lots of specific combinations of attitudes are more indicative of personality than alignment, there are certain perspectives I feel lean one way or the other.

If you need me to point to something concrete, I don't believe you would know to fake the tone of what you just wrote from 398 to 400. And I strongly doubt it's a tone that comes from you naturally while playing as scum. So I think you're town. Not with absolute confidence, but with enough confidence that if a serious wagon was building on you, I would make some attempt to derail it at this point.

Incidentally, this relates to why mollie is tragically failing to read me. She's looking at my attitude, what she describes as "I am too kewl for this gig" and somehow coming to the conclusion that it's scum indicative. That finally logical leap, that "I am too kewl for this gig" > Scum is something I'm struggling to follow. I can follow SAD's read on me, it's simple enough; he sees my posts as contrived. They're not, but I can't exactly PROVE they're not, and if they ARE contrived than it certainly follows that I'm scum. So his read makes sense. Similar logical follows for RC's read on me. But mollie's read on me is nonsensical. mollie is making the mistake of equating an attitude they don't respond to well with an attitude that's indicative of scum. An attitude only justifies a read when that attitude points towards a mindset (ie scum mindset or town mindset). In my case, my attitude is something mollie has been accusing of being not the most optimal townplay (see: her accusing me of "not doing enough", etc), which is a valid criticism, but even newbies fresh out of Road to Rome can tell you that town will not constantly play with regard to absolute optimal paths, for a variety of reasons.
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Post Post #416 (isolation #44) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:30 pm

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In post 412, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:NAHDIA who are your 3 strongest scumreads.

I looked at defcon again b/c I thought I had asked you a similar question but apparently I asked:
In post 573, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
In post 567, Nahdia wrote:LLD, Cheetory, Toogeloo

Is there something you're waiting to happen before you vote or..?
Hi name your top 3 town reads so far.

Idgaf about the reason you can pull them out of thin air for all I care or random.org them.

I want to have you on record naming 3 players that are reading town for you.
Implying you were scumreading a lot of people and not townreading anyone. And you were town.

Do you do the opposite as scum???
My only scumread is mollie. If I absolutely had to name two others, the first would be yourself and the second would be Kagami. But both of those are very much subject to change. Yourself I've gone pretty much back an forth on and would label as a "mixed vibes" read, and Kagami because... honestly, I'm not sure. I was just looking through the player list and that's the name I stopped on.
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Post Post #421 (isolation #45) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:35 pm

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"word vomit"

And you accuse me of being vacuous. :roll:
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Post Post #422 (isolation #46) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:36 pm

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If you are town, mollie, maybe you should actually read the words and try to take some of it to heart. Because right now, you're voting a town with confidence and thus in major error. Learn from your mistakes, friend.
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Post Post #429 (isolation #47) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:47 pm

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In post 425, pirate mollie wrote:not to mention you are treating me as town with the words you are using which makes me wonder about your vote.
I wondered if you might bring that up.

Yes, I am speaking to you as if you were town. I treat everyone I speak to as town, pretty much always. You can meta-dive me if you want to verify that. That's because, and this is a point I've made repeatedly already, I very rarely blur the line between my Day 1 reads and internalized "facts", from my perspective, of the game state (and rarely do I do so even later in the game). A majority is town, so I speak to everyone as if they're town, because that's correct for most people. And again, I don't suppose I
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Post Post #431 (isolation #48) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:54 pm

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I mean, I shouldn't be regarded as an authority on anything except myself. I'm just explaining myself, since obviously I know why I do what I do. Usually.
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Post Post #436 (isolation #49) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:00 pm

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In post 432, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 429, Nahdia wrote:
In post 425, pirate mollie wrote:not to mention you are treating me as town with the words you are using which makes me wonder about your vote.
I wondered if you might bring that up.

Yes, I am speaking to you as if you were town. I treat everyone I speak to as town, pretty much always. You can meta-dive me if you want to verify that. That's because, and this is a point I've made repeatedly already, I very rarely blur the line between my Day 1 reads and internalized "facts", from my perspective, of the game state (and rarely do I do so even later in the game). A majority is town, so I speak to everyone as if they're town, because that's correct for most people. And again, I don't suppose I
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this is a slide.

and I am wondering who else will pick up on this.

your play reads as scummy but you are offering up this tasty treat that if you are town we will find you equally useless while tossing up reads that will not go anywhere.

this is what you are doing.
What I'm doing is explaining myself and my play to you.

You: You're doing X. I find that scummy.
Me: I always do X; it's how I play.
You: WELL THAT'S USELESS. YOU MUST BE SCUM ANYWAY JUST BECAUSE.
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Post Post #437 (isolation #50) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:01 pm

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Yes, it doesn't help you to know that's how I play. It doesn't solve you the game. I'm not solving the game for you. I'm responding to an observation you made and, incorrectly, stated is scum indicative. And I explained WHY it's incorrect; because I always do it, and hence it isn't helpful for you. So yes, of course this amounts to nothing. I'm telling you why your read on me is flat out wrong.
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Post Post #503 (isolation #51) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:00 am

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In post 484, Nachomamma8 wrote:I don't like the "get these votes off now" as substitutions forrrrr rrrrreal rrrrreactions to votes on him.
I think this is a lame reason to dislike Dunn, all things considered. I don't see Dunn as the kind of player who would actively dismiss "real interactions" as scum so transparently just for the sake of it. Either he's town and he's being lackadaisical, or he's scum and he's trying to curate his tone as such.
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Post Post #504 (isolation #52) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:02 am

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My point being that the shade thrown on him in 484 is very very shallow and surface level from nacho which... I'm actually not sure how I read that. So I guess pointing it out was kind of needless, but I just had the urge to say it I suppose.
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Post Post #536 (isolation #53) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:32 am

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Post Post #538 (isolation #54) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:37 am

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........................are you a creature alt?
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Post Post #541 (isolation #55) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:38 am

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In post 539, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 536, Nahdia wrote:hi infinity
Hi nahdia, what's your read on spyre
off the top of my head, leaning town, though i could stand to give his ISO a once-over i guess.
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In post 538, Nahdia wrote:........................are you a creature alt?
No lol but I'm on my phone and that's the easiest way to do it
just seems so weird and unintuitive but i guess that makes sense
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Post Post #549 (isolation #56) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:06 am

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In post 544, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 541, Nahdia wrote:
In post 539, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 536, Nahdia wrote:hi infinity
Hi nahdia, what's your read on spyre
off the top of my head, leaning town, though i could stand to give his ISO a once-over i guess.
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In post 538, Nahdia wrote:........................are you a creature alt?
No lol but I'm on my phone and that's the easiest way to do it
just seems so weird and unintuitive but i guess that makes sense
Ok, why do you think dunn is town? I always have a difficult time reading him but I'm leaning scum atm
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Post Post #676 (isolation #57) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:08 pm

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In post 673, pirate mollie wrote:And RC is right, nahdia is using buzzwords to pad their game.
The fuck does this even mean?

PZ's recent posts are sort of awkward but there's nothing actually scum-indicative that I see. Not liking SAD's attack on Zito, feels a bit opportunistic or whatever. But on the other hand I really really liked from SAD for whatever reason so I'm leaning town on his slot atm.
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Post Post #702 (isolation #58) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:52 pm

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In post 692, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 676, Nahdia wrote:
In post 673, pirate mollie wrote:And RC is right, nahdia is using buzzwords to pad their game.
The fuck does this even mean?

PZ's recent posts are sort of
awkward
but there's nothing actually scum-indicative that I see. Not liking SAD's attack on Zito, feels a bit
opportunistic
or whatever. But on the other hand I really really liked from SAD for whatever reason so I'm leaning town on his slot atm.
I mean it exactly what the fuck I said it means I am pretty sure that I was pretty clear.

the bold are generic buzzwords that you are using with zero thought behind I mean really how the fuck was was sad's vote opportunistic on zito, I mean how many votes does he have, like 1. in no universe does that = opportunistic.

also this whole high and mighty "I am too cool 4 u to play this game" is getting old. rc might back off after you called him a dick but that crap doesn't work on me.
I'm not calling you a dick, I'm calling you idiotic.

It's opportunistic for the exact reason I said it is; because Zito's posts are awkward. BUT, I added, there's nothing actually scum indicative about them. Hence; opportunistic.
See how easy it is? I'm sorry if by condensing my posts I'm using words that are a bit too general, I really didn't mean to come off as difficult to understand. But if I say something that's unclear, you're more than welcome to just ask.
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Post Post #710 (isolation #59) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:31 pm

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im town.
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Post Post #743 (isolation #60) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:12 pm

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kagami is town bc they called me town :good:
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Post Post #763 (isolation #61) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:08 pm

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VOTE: nacho
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VOTE: camnkat
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Post Post #766 (isolation #63) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:13 pm

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forgot deadline was close. i'll stop with the vanity wagons im not gonna push anyway.
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Post Post #771 (isolation #64) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:40 pm

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on one hand, i think infinity is probs town. on the other hand, i have a sinking feeling im just dead wrong on that in particular.
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Post Post #775 (isolation #65) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:40 pm

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spyre help the ate is working on me =(
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Post Post #807 (isolation #66) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:33 am

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it was a silly way to say it but ngl the camn case from you did feel iffy to me as well.
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Post Post #819 (isolation #67) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:04 am

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:(
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Post Post #868 (isolation #68) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:34 am

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In post 857, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:(and camnhydra too because I think I can get a better read on them anyway if they keep posting so no rush to lynch them)
uhhhggg i realize this is projecting self-meta which zito just went off on infinity about but i drop this line as scum all the time. it's such a weak justification for keeping someone alive and like every time i see someone use it myself included there's something underlying it.
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Post Post #885 (isolation #69) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:32 pm

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"talking to X as if they're town" continues to be a method of scumhunting with 0 reliability.

sorry if i alienated you ftr, wasn't actually my intention, i'll try to tune it down the on jerk-meter.
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Post Post #890 (isolation #70) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:44 pm

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In post 889, pirate mollie wrote:this is criticism w/o content and you have been doing this all game
feel free to look at my ISO if you missed the parts where I stated reads.
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Post Post #894 (isolation #71) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:55 pm

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no but see, dreal town. and we're supposed to be lynching people who aren't town, you see.

also yeah sure what sad said that's also a thing or whatever
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Post Post #897 (isolation #72) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:58 pm

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whatever helps you sleep at night, my man.
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Post Post #898 (isolation #73) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:00 pm

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i know how it is. i experience it as well. i too wake up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat, paralyzed with dread, one thought echoing through my clouded mind;

"shit maybe sad is town."

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Post Post #948 (isolation #74) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:23 am

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In post 934, Infinity 324 wrote:Well

what I mean is that I don't think scum would be able to fake that tone
Faking tone is literally the one thing I take pride in when it comes to mafia.
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Post Post #981 (isolation #75) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:32 am

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hey mollie who is your top townread? just one name please.
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Post Post #992 (isolation #76) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:45 pm

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Okay that's fine, let's try this.

What slot that's town do you think you can work best with?
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Post Post #1014 (isolation #77) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:48 am

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fate-senpai never notices me =( (when i change my vote to camn)
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Post Post #1070 (isolation #78) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 1:04 pm

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whoa there
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Post Post #1114 (isolation #79) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:29 pm

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Only skimmed so far but I don't have an orb or whatever. First I'm hearing of such a thing.
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Post Post #1164 (isolation #80) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:59 pm

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mlem mlem
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Post Post #1178 (isolation #81) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:35 am

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VOTE: staeg
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Post Post #1183 (isolation #82) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:02 am

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iunno, vibes.
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Post Post #1185 (isolation #83) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:10 am

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....................................that's some over justification if i may say so myself.
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Post Post #1187 (isolation #84) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:18 am

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you didn't point to specific things. you just said "i want reactions".
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Post Post #1190 (isolation #85) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:21 am

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why do you think he'll give the best reactions?
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Post Post #1193 (isolation #86) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:26 am

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yeah, that's what i thought.
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Post Post #1245 (isolation #87) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:34 am

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I'm really impressed with myself for reading all of that.

Feeling a lot better about Dunn and Mollie in particular rn. Zito I'm not sure on; I think the way the final VC was presented is a really odd way to convey "this player is lynch immune" though I guess it's possible. Idk if there's any way Dunn can ask if his vote counted or not to see what happened. Probably not. I'm not really fully convinced by the explanation given at any rate but eh, not really really heart set on a lynch there by any means.
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Post Post #1246 (isolation #88) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:35 am

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Still rather lynch infinity atm.
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Post Post #1254 (isolation #89) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:15 am

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what happened to the mlem mlems?????
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Post Post #1260 (isolation #90) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:28 am

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he's required to be angry.
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Post Post #1302 (isolation #91) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:51 pm

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let's all band together and lynch infinity.
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Post Post #1317 (isolation #92) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:31 pm

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Post Post #1319 (isolation #93) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:32 pm

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spyre you're a cool dude & i appreciate u. sorry this game hasnt treated you well :c
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Post Post #1400 (isolation #94) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:17 am

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I like desperado they think good things that I agree with
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Post Post #1440 (isolation #95) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:30 am

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i wanna see a VOTE COUNT.
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Post Post #1444 (isolation #96) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:34 am

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In post 1402, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 1400, Nahdia wrote:I like desperado they think good things that I agree with
Which things?
all of their things up to the point where i posted that! I agreed with the things they were saying.

i could do staeg though. which makes me wanna consider giving infinity a pass today.
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Post Post #1449 (isolation #97) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:40 am

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In post 1446, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 1444, Nahdia wrote:all of their things up to the point where i posted that! I agreed with the things they were saying.
1393 or literally everything?
weeeeellllll all of it although the one thing i DIDN'T really agree with is 1397. from experience, hydra dissonance is really easy to fake!
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Post Post #1476 (isolation #98) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:03 am

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thank you fate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post Post #1509 (isolation #99) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:32 am

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In post 1479, drealmerz7 wrote:"convinced enough" is only true if he is town, otherwise it is an act

if he's scum, what he really wants is to lynch someone he thinks has an orb, and setup a NK on somenoe else he thinks has an orb - how do you (that's General Yu) do that? you do exactly what dunn did! also it is smart for scum to setup a hard TR (especially if they can get a bunch of people to believe it) on a player and then NK them "oh yep, scum NKed the widely TR person, of course" - and then you WIFOM clear yourself - I'm just theorizing, I'm not saying THIS IS HOW IT IS, I don't fucking know

I do know that I prefer a nacho or infinity lynch today, or zito - and I don't know why my suspicions of dunn being scum mean I have to want to lynch him today - it's not that secure at all
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Post Post #1514 (isolation #100) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:35 am

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drealmerz7 wrote:and spyr targeted SAD with something that he doesn't think killed him so I'm wondering if redirecting happened or what
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Post Post #1518 (isolation #101) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:36 am

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i was softing. i got orbs.

deez orbs.
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Post Post #1521 (isolation #102) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:38 am

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wait is there actually something suggesting there was a redirector on SAD
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Post Post #1522 (isolation #103) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:38 am

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or whatever it is dreal is saying im not even sure
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Post Post #1629 (isolation #104) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:02 pm

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ive only skimmed but im pretty sure dreal is WRONG about something.
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Post Post #1632 (isolation #105) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:04 pm

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dreal dunn keeps bringing up that he thought you were softing in reference to the time before you corrected him.
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Post Post #1716 (isolation #106) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:16 am

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idk kagami im having some second thoughts about infinity and would kind of prefer staeg but also yolo.
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Post Post #1719 (isolation #107) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:18 am

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Post Post #1789 (isolation #108) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:24 pm

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I dunno. I'm not really sold on the time manipulator thing being open and shut pointing to Zito.

With Infinity flipping red I spose maybe I should rethink on Staeg though I don't doubt Infinity was bussed by at least part of his team. Tempting to go with the bandwagon and just vote RC but I don't really know what the reasons on him art ATM besides "he didn't vote Infinity".
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Post Post #1791 (isolation #109) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:36 pm

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I don't think that was directed at me but I have nacho leaning town regardless of whatever the deal with their PR is.
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Post Post #1794 (isolation #110) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:41 pm

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Mmm. Even with being right on Infinity I feel like I'm at a point where I need to take a fresh evaluation of the game. Do some rereading and such. I don't wanna just trust assumptions based on Fate's role names; setup spec has never been kind to me.
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Post Post #1795 (isolation #111) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:43 pm

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On the other hand, I do buy that Dunnstral was indeed the kill target if Infinity had an orb. Makes the most logical sense that they'd hit someone who is getting widely townread on top of getting their fancy item back.
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Post Post #1800 (isolation #112) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:19 pm

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i mean, we're turtle mystics or whatever. maybe the dude is "one with nature" and pretends to be a big ol' cat n stuff.
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Post Post #1816 (isolation #113) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:56 pm

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does your ability end the day?
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Post Post #1823 (isolation #114) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 2:11 pm

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still betting he's town.
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Post Post #1834 (isolation #115) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:20 pm

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toldja so.
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Post Post #1835 (isolation #116) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:21 pm

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Desperado quick I want reads on these three players, as much or as little detail as you want with them:
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Post Post #1838 (isolation #117) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:29 pm

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Thanks much, friend.

VOTE: RC

I'm down with you hammering, but I'm wondering if it's most strategically sound for Dunn to do the honors. What's your read on him?
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Post Post #1841 (isolation #118) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:31 pm

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Well hear me out. Perhaps there's value in consolidating our assets, so to speak? That is, if we do have a genuine protective role floating around as last night would suggest.
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Post Post #1846 (isolation #119) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:38 pm

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Dunn what's your feels on Des?
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Post Post #1847 (isolation #120) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:39 pm

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Actually, since you have orbs and stuff, maybe you can explain this.

Is there added value in getting all the orb pieces in one place, or what? Is the whole more than the sum of its parts or whatnot?
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Post Post #1848 (isolation #121) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:40 pm

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We know mafia has had orbs so it's not like this is some super secret info.
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Post Post #1850 (isolation #122) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:41 pm

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Oh okay I guess we're not being cagey. That's cool.
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Post Post #1853 (isolation #123) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:43 pm

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Your point being?
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Post Post #1857 (isolation #124) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:47 pm

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In post 1831, Desperado wrote:We are still lynching RC I'm just hammering
Subtext was there from before the death scene flipped. Only one reason to demand a hammer. This isn't coming out of nowhere.
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Post Post #1860 (isolation #125) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:48 pm

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Too soon Nacho, too soon.
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Post Post #1863 (isolation #126) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:50 pm

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dreal, you actually think the dude is just making up a neighborhood for... what purpose exactly?
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Post Post #1868 (isolation #127) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:55 pm

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In post 1866, drealmerz7 wrote:I'm being cautious

I don't know why nacho would have been passed an orb piece N1 as he was generally SR

and desperado seems too willful
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Post Post #1870 (isolation #128) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:57 pm

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For what purpose would he make up a neighborhood in order to claim nacho was holding two orbs which have now been transferred to RC.

You realize, if he's lying, that RC is going to just come out with "I do not have two orb pieces. Desperado is lying." Which puts Des in a counterclaim scenario he has no need to be in.
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Post Post #1873 (isolation #129) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:00 pm

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Aight dude, I'll try & chill. I'm just telling you to think stuff through cause quite frankly, I'm ticked off that nacho got vigged and I'm gonna be even more ticked off if RC gets away with it.
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Post Post #1885 (isolation #130) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:07 pm

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well clearly someone gave it to him. believe it or not, we're not a collective hivemind that all has the same reads. some people weren't scumreading him.
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Post Post #1890 (isolation #131) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:12 pm

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Orbs can be passed.
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Post Post #1895 (isolation #132) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:15 pm

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In post 1080, Dunnstral wrote:I do not know anything about what these do, I just know how they're moved around. I assume something happens if all 4 are gathered.
If somebody is killed while holding a fragment, it goes to the killer, if they are lynched it goes to the person who placed the hammer vote. Additionally, they can send the fragment to somebody else during the night.
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Post Post #1900 (isolation #133) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:19 pm

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You're asking Dunnstral, I quoted Dunnstral. Get over yourself. This isn't amateur hour, you're not gonna catch someone out by mech testing them on fucking public mechanics they've already claims in the thread that no one else has challenged.
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Post Post #1906 (isolation #134) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:23 pm

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In post 1901, drealmerz7 wrote:fine

I blocked nacho both nights

there is no way he was passed an orb

confirmed by mod, my block blocks orb passings
Roleblocking nacho doesn't mean other people couldn't use actions on HIM.
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Post Post #1909 (isolation #135) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:24 pm

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In post 1907, drealmerz7 wrote:yeah, and this is why I was fucking asking in the first fucking place

what took so fucking long to respond??? you had to come up with it in scumchat

I'm done with this shit
Or maybe he's an actual person with shit to do rather than just being glued to this thread.

Stop spamming the thread with your vacuous crap. You just claimed for literally no reason.
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Post Post #1910 (isolation #136) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:24 pm

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There's nothing which says you can't use actions on someone who is being roleblocked. Unless you're a specific variation of a jailkeeper. Which you're not.
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Post Post #1917 (isolation #137) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:27 pm

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In post 1911, drealmerz7 wrote:wtf are you talking about

OMFG

are you reading, or just also scum?
You block Nacho.

Someone else takes an action, giving an orb piece to nacho.

Nacho took no action bc he was blocked.

Nacho RECEIVED an orb piece, which is not an action he took.

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Post Post #1918 (isolation #138) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:27 pm

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Are you trying to claim you're actually a rolestopper, not a roleblocker?
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Post Post #1921 (isolation #139) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:29 pm

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Your role specifically states that?
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Post Post #1931 (isolation #140) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:31 pm

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orbs can't be sent away, but can they be received? Confirm that with Fate. That would be a strange addition to a standard roleblock.
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Post Post #1932 (isolation #141) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:32 pm

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Fact is, we can wait for RC to show up and tell us whether or not he got two orb pieces from killing Nacho.
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Post Post #1936 (isolation #142) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:34 pm

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drealmerz in fairness, you're not exactly being clear. You claimed just roleblocker, which wouldn't prevent receiving and orb, and then you amended your claim to include "orbs can't be received through my block" which is odd and not something you should have expected us to assume.
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Post Post #1942 (isolation #143) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:36 pm

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yeah dreal seriously that shit was unnecessary. ignoring the fact that the question was vacuous to begin with, there's no problem with a dude taking 13 minutes to answer a question; people aren't just staring at the thread clicking refresh constantly.
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Post Post #1946 (isolation #144) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:37 pm

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Right, cause I was absolutely preventing him from answering by pointing out the stuff that'd already been answered in thread which served as answers to your question.
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Post Post #1947 (isolation #145) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:38 pm

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Dunnstral and I are actually siblings, using the same computer, so we can't post at the same time. I prevented him from posting for those 13 minutes. All part of my master plan.
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Post Post #1951 (isolation #146) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:40 pm

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When someone is filling the thread with vacuous shit and demanding a prompt answer literally 2 minutes after they posted the question, I answer for 'em to make the pain stop.
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Post Post #1955 (isolation #147) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:42 pm

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That was a joke. Dunnstral aren't really siblings. If only, my actual brother is lame as heck.
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Post Post #1958 (isolation #148) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:42 pm

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Dunnstral and I*

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Post Post #2295 (isolation #149) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:43 am

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Post Post #2296 (isolation #150) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:44 am

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& yes mollie, my demanding your top townread on d1 now makes sense, hmm? really too bad he had to go and die.
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Post Post #2326 (isolation #151) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:57 pm

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In post 2323, camntsuki wrote:That leaves 2 scum in : {Staeg, Nahdia, Papa Zito}
i bet i know which ones it is
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Post Post #2346 (isolation #152) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:32 pm

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa i love zero 7.

i dont really think role claims are necessary today. if we end up lynching town today, they can be a thing tomorrow. down with the staeg lynch, since an orb piece went missing des should probs still be hammering so i wanna see the VC first.
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Post Post #2372 (isolation #153) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:16 am

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ok well VOTE: staeg this is L-2 and stuff.
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Post Post #2377 (isolation #154) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:30 am

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In post 2374, Papa Zito wrote:Mollie if your Nahdia read isn't role shenanigans then can you explain it to me because I don't share it in the least.
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Post Post #2392 (isolation #155) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:08 pm

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seems to me what we have here is a failure to communicate
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Post Post #2394 (isolation #156) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:14 pm

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Post Post #2398 (isolation #157) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:16 pm

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kagami what's the flavor of the hood you created?
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Post Post #2399 (isolation #158) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:17 pm

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cause this pretty much sounds like a direct counter to your role if i'm not mistaken.
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Post Post #2402 (isolation #159) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:19 pm

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huh. guess not then.
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Post Post #2405 (isolation #160) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:22 pm

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the way Staeg harps on the term Connection makes me think it's a term with at least some consistency across this game's role logic. and anyone
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that or the role is entirely shit.

@Dunn is your neighborhood ability flavored as Connections?
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Post Post #2408 (isolation #161) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:23 pm

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so there's no mention of the word "connection" in your role PM or the title of your PT or anything
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Post Post #2414 (isolation #162) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:26 pm

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Okay. so neighborhoods are not inherently Connections. Connections could potentially mean something else then?
In post 2411, Kagami wrote:VOTE: staeg

The claimed flavor is even directly opposed to mine, nahdia.
how so?
In post 2412, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2408, Nahdia wrote:so there's no mention of the word "connection" in your role PM or the title of your PT or anything
mollie's neighborhood ability she was talking about doesn't mesh well with my ability either, so I might just be the oddball here. Somebody neighborized desperado and nacho, and kagami's neighborhoods seem to last forever
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Post Post #2417 (isolation #163) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:30 pm

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worth mentioning that Staeg is at L-1 and i'd rather desp be the one to hammer atm so
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Post Post #2428 (isolation #164) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:15 pm

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curious to know how Kagami's flavor and Staeg's flavor conflict.
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Post Post #2431 (isolation #165) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:19 pm

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i dont really see a massclaim changing the outcome of today?
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Post Post #2434 (isolation #166) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:32 pm

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im still kind of hung up on the term Connections.
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Post Post #2456 (isolation #167) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:48 pm

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i really dont think this is a good idea.
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Post Post #2458 (isolation #168) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:49 pm

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there's no reason to claim today if we're just gonna lynch Staeg anyway, which is what we should be doing.
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Post Post #2459 (isolation #169) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:49 pm

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yes, some of us. but scum doesn't have that information.
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Post Post #2463 (isolation #170) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:52 pm

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going into any detail about that defeats the entire fricking purpose.

and why the hell aren't we gonna lynch staeg?
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Post Post #2465 (isolation #171) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:53 pm

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to nights in a row no one has died. you want scum having detailed information on how that has happened?
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Post Post #2466 (isolation #172) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:53 pm

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two*
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Post Post #2473 (isolation #173) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:12 pm

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Desp, even if some people know some details about some roles, there's still a good chance a lot of that information hasn't gotten into scum hands. And regardless, as long as we have a lynch to make, it doesn't make sense to out information to everyone. There's no benefit; only potential risks.

So let's talk about Staeg and why you're not in favor of lynching him before we put everything out in the open, yeah?
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Post Post #2474 (isolation #174) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:12 pm

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In post 2472, Desperado wrote:@ mollie: Staeg's role allows him to target a scum who had votes but not enough to lynch and sever their scum QT

That sounds pretty town to me.
No, it severs CONNECTIONS. You just said your PT was Nacho was a CONNECTION. Those two roles sound pretty much in hard conflict with each other, don't you think?
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Post Post #2475 (isolation #175) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:13 pm

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Post Post #2478 (isolation #176) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:15 pm

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Except Dunn's PTs aren't connections. And Kagami's PT's aren't connections.
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Post Post #2481 (isolation #177) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:18 pm

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In post 2393, Staeg wrote:That, in turn, indicates a 2p scumteam or that scum didn't start the game with a quicktopic.
Staeg is suggesting here that his role specifically functions to sever connects between two people. In other words, not a default 3 person scum PT. So either you think scum have to neighborize each other to communicate and Staeg can fight that, or it's a 2p mafia team???
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In post 2478, Nahdia wrote:And Kagami's PT's aren't connections.
Wait, is this a fact?
Kagami stated they're Shadow Portals, not Connections.
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Post Post #2482 (isolation #178) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:19 pm

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In post 2480, Desperado wrote:And Staeg claims this when he already had deduced that connections are likely PTs because....
Because it's his role? Because he preempted us by saying his claim is bad, thus dealing himself the "scum wouldn't claim this role" card which is exactly what you're buying into right now?
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Post Post #2490 (isolation #179) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:22 pm

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In post 2486, Desperado wrote:
In post 2482, Nahdia wrote:Because it's his role? Because he preempted us by saying his claim is bad, thus dealing himself the "scum wouldn't claim this role" card which is exactly what you're buying into right now?
Right, but as scum he would know that he would be on the chopping block and have plenty of time to, you know, come up with a claim that he
doesn't need to do any of that for?
Do I really need to jump through hoops for you, dude? Claiming anything besides your actual role can be dangerous for all sorts of reasons.
Staeg wrote:Right. But shadow portals connect things. It's what portals do.
Or something.
Fuck off, Fate.

Nahdia. please. I wasn't locked into a "bad claim" until I was basically about to claim.
The card-playing is a legitimate concern, though.
Have you tried asking Fate what "Connections" means, in your role? Because if it just means PTs, I don't see why Fate wouldn't just fucking say that.
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Post Post #2492 (isolation #180) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:24 pm

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Always? No, but it's far from unheard of. I'm not giving Staeg a pass just because he claimed a scummy role.
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Post Post #2495 (isolation #181) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:25 pm

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A scummy role that appears to be a hard counter to another specific role in this game.
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In post 2490, Nahdia wrote:Have you tried asking Fate what "Connections" means, in your role? Because if it just means PTs, I don't see why Fate wouldn't just fucking say that.
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How fucking convenient that the functions of your role of obfuscated behind flavor so you don't actually get to know what they do. I don't know about the rest of you but MY role pm certainly doesn't contain any cagey bullshit, it just tells me what it fucking does.
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Post Post #2499 (isolation #182) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:27 pm

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BECAUSE THERE ARE PROTECTIVE ROLES.
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Post Post #2501 (isolation #183) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:28 pm

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THERE ISN'T ACTUALLY A BENEFIT TO MASS CLAIMING, YOU JUST THINK IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA.
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Post Post #2504 (isolation #184) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:28 pm

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Seriously, please fucking TRY to explain to me why you think mass claiming will help us here. Because I'm a fucking loss for what the benefit of it is.
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Post Post #2508 (isolation #185) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:30 pm

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No, they fucking don't if they can't explain WHY we're going to mass claim.
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Post Post #2510 (isolation #186) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:31 pm

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I'm legit really sorry if I'm coming off as obtuse because I'm not trying to. But I take serious objection to outting literally everything when, again, I see lots of risks and no benefit to mass claiming. I see people who deserve rope. I don't see any amount of outed role information changing who deserves rope.
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Post Post #2513 (isolation #187) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:32 pm

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Not everyone has that information though. You're just ASSUMING that scum has it. There's no reason to assume that. No benefit to doing so.
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Post Post #2516 (isolation #188) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:34 pm

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Since when do I have the most information in the game? I don't.
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Post Post #2518 (isolation #189) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:34 pm

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I for one certainly don't know all but two claims. And I don't NEED to know everyone's claim. I know who I want to lynch TODAY.
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Post Post #2522 (isolation #190) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:37 pm

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I have no idea what happened to the orb fragment and that's not my immediate concern right now. There's likely two more scum and you not stealing the fragment doesn't clear you.
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In post 2518, Nahdia wrote:I for one certainly don't know all but two claims. And I don't NEED to know everyone's claim. I know who I want to lynch TODAY.
If you can't see how this isn't proof that we need to claim everything then I really don't know what to say.
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Post Post #2524 (isolation #191) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:38 pm

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What are you even getting at.
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Post Post #2529 (isolation #192) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:41 pm

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We've seen a Redirector/Time Manipulator. How is that, your role, and somethign else that presumably did something to snatch away an orb fragment unreasonable?
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Post Post #2543 (isolation #193) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:53 pm

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You know what, fine, I'm sick of arguing this. I'm out-voted. Agree to disagree. Sure, let's all fucking claim. It's fucking obvious by now anyway.

I'm the doctor. I protected mollie n1 and Desp n2 and n3. Saving desp n2 is why I was so adamantly about believing him when he said he had a PT with nacho.

Awesome. Great. Aren't we all so glad everyone knows that now? Sure feels like a fucking load off my chest.
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Post Post #2545 (isolation #194) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:53 pm

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This is what you wanted, right Desp?
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Post Post #2549 (isolation #195) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:55 pm

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Hush.
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Post Post #2585 (isolation #196) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:26 pm

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In post 2577, camntsuki wrote:Nahdia- despite that...can I ask for your flavor?
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Post Post #2596 (isolation #197) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:45 pm

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I'm a healer, I protect people from psychic assault.
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Post Post #2622 (isolation #198) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:18 am

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I thought about it a bit overnight, and I'm thinking I may actually prefer a Zito lynch today. I'm largely on the same page as camn wrt their notes. The more I think on it though, the more I think if we're going wrong somewhere though that Staeg is likely the town in that 2 person initial scumpool. It doesn't seem like a town role but on the other hand, I'm having a lot of trouble believing there's not more to Zito's role than "has a passive item they can pass on if they like". That along with the Time Manipulator thing; I actually may feel a bit better about lynching Zito first.

Only other slot I had some reservations on was camntsuki, actually, but their recent gamesolving attempts have looked solid to me at least and I'm fairly at ease with the slot atm.

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Post Post #2623 (isolation #199) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:19 am

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to be clear ill still totally flip back to staeg. just advocating that i think this is a better starting point.
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