Open 660 - White Flag (Game Over)

[chilledtea]

Most likely alisae + ssbm from what it seems.

Although something to keep in mind that LQ played the same game on toto on day 1.

[chilledtea]

So were you scum?

nope

This is basically the reaction that was given by alisae upon realizing that he was lynched by creature.

You mean by you because you hammered me.

Well, I didn't hammer you, so it was creature who conveyed that to you.

[keyenpeydee]

@ssbm what do you think of alisae?

[keyenpeydee]

Most likely alisae + ssbm from what it seems.

Although something to keep in mind that LQ played the same game on toto on day 1.

If it's between the two, would consider lynching alisae first.

[chilledtea]

What about the reads Alisae gave during the fake twilight?

It is very difficult to believe that in this situation, either scum or town would get lynched without realizing. I mean, it is just 9 players. On day 1 with all the mess and several posts it can get confusing, but there is a chance this was fake on day 3.

[Alisae]

So were you scum?

nope

This is basically the reaction that was given by alisae upon realizing that he was lynched by creature.

You mean by you because you hammered me.

Well, I didn't hammer you, so it was creature who conveyed that to you.

But if I was actually hammered, you were the person to hammer me.

[Gamma Emerald]

Thinking chilled is the scum from the Ali wagon.

[chilledtea]

What is the first thing that you do when you feel that you have been hammered but there is no VC nearby?

One thing that I did like about alisae is that he checked day 2's VC instead of day 3 and came to the conclusion that 6 votes are needed to lynch him. I mean that does point towards ignorance a lot more.

[Alisae]

Give reads which I did once Creature asked for them.
It was sorta a "welp" moment.

[chilledtea]

How come nobody tried to check whether alisae has been hammered? ssbm seems to point towards it with the "are you joking" line, but doesn't try to make the effort of checking the votes on alis.

[Alisae]

Thats interesting. Chilled what do you think of Toto?

[chilledtea]

1. Who have I scumread for scumreading my SR again?
2. I felt as if he was trying to derail the Toto wagon D1 and that seemed off to me.
3. I voted him because I thought he was scum due to reasoning I explained? What, are you not supposed to vote your scumreads?

Just wanted to address this : You scum read ssbm because he was trying to derail the toto wagon, and you scum read toto because of ssbm, right? Circular logic doesn't work.

Yes I scumread that.
But it wasn't that Kyouko derailed it and because of that I scumread toto.
It's because Toto followed up on a vote on Dave. Like I checked the VC after Kyouko origonally voted Dave. First it went Kyouko then Toto.

Please explain this better.

[chilledtea]

Creature it's 6 to hammer last time I checked.

Sorry for ruining something, but yeah I felt as if scum were trying to push me mostly because I'm quite frankly super easy to lynch at the moment.

What do you mean by ruining something?

Scum reads are Toto and Kyouko.
Kain could be null leaning scum.
Everyone else is probably town.

You give your reads here but you haven't yet realized that you have been lynched since you think it takes 6 to lynch. Which means that you could still be faking your reads?

Creature it's 6 to hammer last time I checked.

It's 5 to hammer, there are 9 players alive.

oh, misread day 2's final VC for day 3s. Mybad.

Why did you not proceed with counting the votes on if you could go back and check the VC for the no of the votes required to lynch you?

So were you scum?

nope

[chilledtea]

Thats interesting. Chilled what do you think of Toto?

I feel he is town, but not putting any effort whatsoever. But whenever he has put effort, it has seemed sincere to some extent.

[Alisae]

First Question: I felt as if he was trying to fakehammer me at the time cuz I read day 2's final VC instead of Day 3s. To then find out that a fakehammer seemed real.
Second Question: He asked so I might as well give them at the time.
Third Question: Because Creature counted them and I decided to believe him instead of looking for myself.

[chilledtea]

How did you not realize that toto was not voting you when creature pointed it out?

[Alisae]

I didn't.

[chilledtea]

1. Who have I scumread for scumreading my SR again?
2. I felt as if he was trying to derail the Toto wagon D1 and that seemed off to me.
3. I voted him because I thought he was scum due to reasoning I explained? What, are you not supposed to vote your scumreads?

Just wanted to address this : You scum read ssbm because he was trying to derail the toto wagon, and you scum read toto because of ssbm, right? Circular logic doesn't work.

Yes I scumread that.
But it wasn't that Kyouko derailed it and because of that I scumread toto.
It's because Toto followed up on a vote on Dave. Like I checked the VC after Kyouko origonally voted Dave. First it went Kyouko then Toto.

Please explain this better.

[Creature]

VOTE: chilledtea

I haven't seen much from this slot yet, would like to see more. And before anyone gives me crap about voting someone based on inactivity this early in the game:

Eric is prob town, dave probably town too. Both seem like lynchbaity players. Self-voting is done by extremely good scum players as scum tactic though, so if dave is very experienced at this. Otherwise very common among newb town players.

This is the most substantial thing this slot has done yet.

VOTE: Transcend

Reason: First one to post

Why did you thought you needed to give a reason?

Alright guys, Instead of dragging this out why don't we all come to an agreement on who should we lynch? Getting 7 votes is hard with a 13 player game.

I think there is a lot of time to do it. Why are you hasty?

Well, it is D1 ... Lets just say that every move I make is based on gut ... I really wont have anything to go on unless someone gets lynched

Stealing Trans' words, eh? Good.


Eric is really a mislynch. Cant talk about 'why' or 'how' as it will be discussing about on-going games but know this he's extremely un-helpful town but seems like he is actually trying to do something here.


Dave 's self-vote seemed a bit of 'Reverse-Psych' mixed in it like town will think a scum wont self-vote. He is either a scum who is trying to do mind games or a town who was just frustrated and annoyed with the wagon on him. And i dont think a town will be that frustrated to self-vote.

Not voting him rn . He might be at L-1?

the one post this slot has made and it isn't even a good post. when I see a player that doesn't post very often, I hold them to a higher standard of quality posts and this one is not doing it for me.

I also feel better about chilledtea.

VOTE: Deer

UNVOTE
VOTE : Lethargy

This slot is 100% scum. Aubrey has moved up in my eyes. Currently looking at scum possibilities of lethargy, gamma and transcend, maybe ssbm and toto and cracker.

Cracker and deer haven't done much from what I gather.

Don't like gamma at all and he is my next best guess for scum.

Transcend is doing very little in comparison to his meta. His vote on toto is also unexplained.

Sorry going to catch up later today I have been busy.

Yup, I can go that way.

VOTE: Cracker

I dare you to find enough votes to lynch me.

Well, alright I guess.

VOTE: alban

VOTE: Cracker

I'm ready to lynch this.

*Transcend

Prolly the most lackluster post of this entire game.

VOTE: Transcend

Reason should be obvious at this point.

I suppose I can go that way.

VOTE: Toto

VOTE: KainTepes

VOTE: Toto

We've still got two days, so I'll try this.
VOTE: Aubrey

I'd like to see where this rabbit hole goes.

VOTE: aubrey

VOTE: SSBM

VOTE: Toto

VOTE: Dave

I don't mind this lynch at all. The argument against lynching this spot is that it gives us no info... guess what? He will STILL be in the game if he is not lynched today.

so KAIN TEPES HAS DISCOVERED THE SCUMMY OF THIS GAME using hmy aggressive player experience....................!!!

it is obviously............... GAMMA EMERALD, LIKETYQUICKTY and TOTO,,

why? let me explain what discovered...........

TOT was obviously the SCUM....... as seen by how he kept AVOIDING my questions,, and pretending to be town,, his town pretence was not like a town protection act but was more like a SCUM DEFENSIVE ACT;; and when he was being fake hammered he suddenly said he was TOWN and its like he was BEING COACHED IN A MAFIA PRIVATE TOPIC by his MAFIA BUDDIES gamma and lick;;

and then even though he was so obviously going to be LYNCHED suddenly GAMMA AND LICK DERAILED THE WAGON with an INTENSITY that is very strong,, even though GAMMA IS LURKING BEFORE............ and LICK FOLLOWED HIM, like a mafia member folloiwng a mafia memebr,

And then AFTERWARD GAMMA accused DEIMOS for using WIKIPEDIA even though there is no evidence that wikipedia is linked to SCUMMY and it sounds too much like the lurker just trying to EXPAND MORE CASES on innocent townies and then also accused KYOUKO of speaking for VEDITH,, it is WRONG and i get a very BAD FEELING OF MAFIA from GAMMA...... and now LICK also came in and said nothing.......

so my suggestion is that TODAY we lynch TOTO and then we lynch GAMMA AND LICK tomorrow............ then we WIN,, BUT IF I DIE TONIGHT DONT FALL FOR GAMMAS LIES TOMORROW;;

VOTE: TOTO!!!!!!!!!!VOTE:

I think this is horrible.

VOTE: Tepes

I just read from last VC. This game is insane.

My vote on Tapes isn't going anywhere.

Yeah looking at Transcend's play compared to past examples of his townplay (Mini 1841, Open 658), this is not town!Transcend.

meta sucks

QFT.

VOTE: Transcend

VOTE: Toto

[Gamma Emerald]

?

[Creature]

Out of the living players:
Transcend - Voted thrice
KainTepes - Voted four times
Creature
Alisae - Voted once
Toto - Voted four times
ssbm_Kyouko - Voted once
keyenpeydee
chilledtea - Voted once
Gamma Emerald

[Creature]

We identify where the bussing is.

[Creature]

ssbm looks more likely. He was like voted once and the others who were voted once at least seemed justified.

[Alisae]

VOTE: SSBM_Kyouko

[Creature]

VOTE: ssbm