Pick Your Power: Double Deck (GAME OVER)

[Lil Uzi Vert]

You're also forgetting the stranglehold the town leaders such as herself and rb had on the game. It was either their way or the highway and Maria was definitely not happening Day 1 and Day 2.

Uhh this is bad. At the very least present a case during that or something

I didn't really have much of a case. The thoughts I had about Maria at the time were all I had and I think her ISO spoke for itself. In hindsight, I probably should've voted for her but I don't think with the reasoning you just quoted it would have done any good.

[MathBlade]

That's actually a good idea.
Get the innocent child confirmation and then discard the card.

The other card revive should do that.

+plus it would give another scum kill disabler

You get a townread. Have some popcorn to celebrate.

Still reading.

isn't that a little bit too generous of a townread

like he +1'd basically conftown's suggestion, not that that's scummy but it's not super town indicative either

VOTE: McMenno

This can die today.

Note to kraska: Sorry for redirecting your shot.

No.

[Fishythefish]

I've been scum reading Maria since Day 1. I don't recall anyone really sharing the same sentiment at the time. Check 1137.

Yes. You've been scum reading Maria since day 1, but never at any point did much to make her lynch more likely - you never voted her until she was already a serious wagon on D3.

Yeah I didn't for two reasons. She wasn't my strongest scum read at the time and I was more interested in what Titus may have been hinting at with the information she was gathering. You're also forgetting the stranglehold the town leaders such as herself and rb had on the game. It was either their way or the highway and Maria was definitely not happening Day 1 and Day 2. I also was defending myself from why I casted a vote for Vifam earlier.

What I was trying to argue by showing how long I was scum reading her was that my reasons for voting for her Day 3 didn't come from nowhere or were sheeping like you seem to be implying.

This makes sense for d1 - though then I'd expect to see you try to persuade those leaders. But Maria definitely wasn't happening day 2? Codswallop. There we leaders were dead, and the Maria wagon was definitely a real possibility. You're vote for jackal - who you never mentioned d1 - over Maria was absolutely not forced by the game state.

[McMenno]

10 of diamonds

as trump

enables Cop, PGO, RB, Alpha Vig, and all diamonds powers (if it's a DAY trump including

double lynch

if someone owns a K).
Why would you think that's a scummy move?

...and...

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: mcmenno

[Maxous]

I'm not voting menno.

Angel or dreal.

[SpyreX]

Fish i see what you did there

Codswallop

Rimshot

So whats the parse between d2 maria and d3 maria murder parties. Who had a mysterious hardon d3 versus d2 apathy

[SpyreX]

Cause that wagon d3 was so easy i got paranoid over it which means it should be crawlin with scums

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I've been scum reading Maria since Day 1. I don't recall anyone really sharing the same sentiment at the time. Check 1137.

Yes. You've been scum reading Maria since day 1, but never at any point did much to make her lynch more likely - you never voted her until she was already a serious wagon on D3.

Yeah I didn't for two reasons. She wasn't my strongest scum read at the time and I was more interested in what Titus may have been hinting at with the information she was gathering. You're also forgetting the stranglehold the town leaders such as herself and rb had on the game. It was either their way or the highway and Maria was definitely not happening Day 1 and Day 2. I also was defending myself from why I casted a vote for Vifam earlier.

What I was trying to argue by showing how long I was scum reading her was that my reasons for voting for her Day 3 didn't come from nowhere or were sheeping like you seem to be implying.

This makes sense for d1 - though then I'd expect to see you try to persuade those leaders. But Maria definitely wasn't happening day 2? Codswallop. There we leaders were dead, and the Maria wagon was definitely a real possibility. You're vote for jackal - who you never mentioned d1 - over Maria was absolutely not forced by the game state.

You're forgetting that one of those leaders was still alive in Titus and she was scum reading me from the start because she believed I tried to rolefish. I tried to explain to her that I wasn't various times but she still insisted that I was by constantly announcing she was willing to lynch me. I don't think she was trying to hear anything I was saying. I was also convinced to vote Jackal because while I was opposed to it at first due to his vengeful being active, it seemed like or at least everyone at the time had convinced him to shoot Maria so I felt it was worth the trade-off.

[Vecna]

my posting the coming 6 or so days is still gonna be a bit more limited. Quite sure it wont come to prods but just letting you guys know.

[Fishythefish]

You're forgetting that one of those leaders was still alive in Titus and she was scum reading me from the start because she believed I tried to rolefish. I tried to explain to her that I wasn't various times but she still insisted that I was by constantly announcing she was willing to lynch me. I don't think she was trying to hear anything I was saying. I was also convinced to vote Jackal because while I was opposed to it at first due to his vengeful being active, it seemed like or at least everyone at the time had convinced him to shoot Maria so I felt it was worth the trade-off.

Hmmm. Titus was not someone who dominated the discourse (like, say, rb). She kept up mild to moderate pressure on you, but never actually voted. Your wagon never got off the ground. There was already a Maria wagon - after the Transcend wagon dispersed, it was the #2 wagon for whole of day 2. If you had a scumread on Maria as you professed, I'd really expect you to have been interested in that wagon. It's not just that you didn't vote for it - you also never asked questions about Maria, or really did anything.

I find your day 2 play pretty unlikely from a townie with a day 1 SR on Maria, and completely likely from scum.

What do other people think of Uzi's play around Maria?

[Dunnstral]

You make a pretty compelling argument, though I know uzi is pretty lynch baity

[Dunnstral]

Why is arcangel lurking out?

[Fishythefish]

I'm going to tell you guys a secret: There was no protective role of any kind active last night. if -grey-/kraska were scum they'd have shot giga and wouldn't have claimed it, so they're either town or going for the super wifom when nobody really scumread them anyway

Eh. It's plausible that Titus was the most townish player scum thought they could shoot and get away with by playing the "ignorant replacement" card. Though I think it's more likely the slot is town.

So whats the parse between d2 maria and d3 maria murder parties. Who had a mysterious hardon d3 versus d2 apathy

Actually... almost noone. Colouring green for hardened maria-haters, blue for town so who cares, red for too late to matter much:

Lynch mob: MariaR (10) -

Dunnstral, kraska77, Kison

, Lil Uzi Vert,

gigabyteTroubadour

,

Vecna

, drealmerz7, Fishythefish,

SpyreX

,

Transcend

Of those uncolored:
- Lil I've talked about.
- drealmer is interesting. Through quite a bit of day 2, his position can be summed up by "Jackal is scummy, Maria is scummier. Jackal has more votes, so let's just do that". I don't really see this as scum. He hadn't committed to a hard Maria scumread before taking this position. Why put yourself in this weird place as scum?
- I'm not analysing myself. Noone else should either, because I have a sneaking suspicion my play on Maria doesn't exactly scream town.

[MathBlade]

I'm not voting menno.

Angel or dreal.

Interesting. Why do you say this?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Fish, I also would like to point we were sheeping rb at the time since he was killed during the day.

I'm a bit confused by your colors, purple is who you have town or confirmed town? Green strong town reads?

[gerryoat]

Dunn and grey are confirmed scum lol

[Fishythefish]

@LUV: why does following rb's reads matter here? Pretty sure that put Maria on the list.

The colours are just answering spyrexs question (because it was a good one) - who was suddenly gunning for Maria day 3? The various colours are all categories who I don't think are that interesting to look at in this context. Doesn't mean their town (except for the blue/purple one, which is the flipped-town-or-practically-confirmed category)

@gerry: why?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Dunn and grey are confirmed scum lol

i can go for a policy lynch on this slot

what did you have to smoke to scumread kraska btw

No.

ok when i asked that question i was hoping for either a "good point" or a "no, this is why"

so could i please have the latter?

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i legitimately do not understand the townreads on mcmenno and why people are so adamant about not lynching him

like literally all he has done this game is claim scum. in the neighborhood, "Watch out for moles in the hood. i know the scumteam has them because i'm one of them ", in-thread we have gems like:

yes it worked good job guys

to my buds

my scumbuddies. also hmpf.

and

I don't think I can support a mariar lynch here

one I feel like this is kinda her v kraska on who jackel shot and I am scumreading kraska more

two she is my scumbuddy and I don't really want to bus right now

^ not to mention he called maria the responsible lynch the day before here

like this is someone deliberately playing like scum, I get that "too scummy to be scum" is a thing but mcmenno has literally been riding on that idea to coast and be useless. none of it feels genuine either tbh

and don't forget his involvement with claims

Giga is in one of my hoods might as well claim that now

this literally did not need to be outted and it was done without my permission. i mean the info's out there now so i'm going to milk the fuck out of it but still

also in the hood he started speculating on what roles each hood member has completely unprompted. i suppose it's a shitty rolefish if it really is a rolefish but WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU DO IT AS TOWN ANYWAY??

not to mention how fsdfhjsakldhiuign CLAIMING FRUIT VENDOR IN THE DIAMONDS HOOD I WANT TO ACTUALLY SHOOT MYSELF

his iso totally reads like a maria partner btw just like LOOK AT IT

mcmenno's play feels super fake here and i legitimately do not understand why this wagon has NEVER had traction all game............. if mcmenno were actually shittown playing like this i would expect scum to actually WANT this lynch

[gigabyteTroubadour]

I don't think I can support a mariar lynch here

one I feel like this is kinda her v kraska on who jackel shot and I am scumreading kraska more

two she is my scumbuddy and I don't really want to bus right now

as I said yesterday I am in two hoods and only have two cards so unless you think this is some elaborate scum gambit I was not bulletproof yesterday

Giga is in one of my hoods might as well claim that now

more thoughts when I get back to a computer

i'm really terrible with cases but hopefully my incoherent screeching moves some votes over to an actually decent wagon (read: not drealmerz aND NOT FUCKING DUNN)

[gigabyteTroubadour]

(them quotes are accidental <3)

[MathBlade]

McMenno did the same thing in Shadowrun. He is using it to reaction test.

Maybe later. You look to be lynch shopping. I don't like that.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

You look to be lynch shopping. I don't like that.

lmfao bye

[MathBlade]

Dunn and grey are confirmed scum lol

Explain. I don't see this

[gigabyteTroubadour]

also math, how do you know mcmenno is reaction testing? i don't see what reads he's getting out of this, he's barely commented on my slot (especially pre-IC claim) and i've been the one most vocally reacting to him all game