Mini Normal 1862 - Town win.

[-Grey-]

That's a guilty conscience for you.

[Alisae]

Well if ya live ya might as well invest me if you really think I'm scum.
Or AA for that lolhammer.

[XnadrojX]

that feel when I go thru so many pages trying to VC and I realised someone hammered.

Krylea has been Hammered! Their role was.....

Spoiler: Role...

1-Shot BP SK

Night 2! Actions in. If everyone PMs me I may end Night early.
(expired on 2016-12-29 05:13:03)

[XnadrojX]

Grey has been found dead! His role was

Spoiler: Role

2-Shot Cop

[XnadrojX]

Day 3 Commence! (expired on 2017-01-12 05:27:14)

[All Alone]

Again, if I am scum, why did noone on my scumteam join the case against Gin

I still think TwoFace is the most likely partner for RBD. For someone who seems as keen on considering all possibilities as TwoFace is, I find it really, really fishy that he didn't consider the possibility of Dash being scum here:

I don't even knothink what's going on but neither of you should've lynched. Cop/miller makes sense. Cop/miller/ascetic has happened before.

If you're legit, she's legit.

If you're fake, you're push on her makes sense.

I'm sure TwoFace has seen a miller fakeclaim before, I doubt he just forgot to consider that possibility. Most likely he just knew in advance that lynching RBD wouldn't advance his wincon and wanted to keep that lynch out of play.

VOTE: TwoFace

[Alisae]

@MOD Can we have a final D2 VC??{/b]

And why are the only people I really don't want to lynch at the moment are Gamma and HS?
Like seriously, I feel like I hate everyone else this game.

[Alisae]

@MOD Can we have a final D2 VC??

And why are the only people I really don't want to lynch at the moment are Gamma and HS?
Like seriously, I feel like I hate everyone else this game.

Fixed formatting.

[Alisae]

Actually, why didn't Krylea claim?
And who did she try to kill N1? Grey?

It might be worth awhile to go back to her ISO or something to see if she crumbed or something or if she somehow softed or some shit to scum. It could have been very likely that she SK told to one of the scum and that's why there was a push on her.

[Alisae]

While we're at it.
VOTE: All Alone

[Alisae]

Actually, ya know what. I really don't like you.

Challenge: All Alone

[All Alone]

krylea didn't claim because I didn't give her the chance to. Her last wallpost came off to me as incredibly survivalist. When a townie's on the ropes and expects to get lynched, there's usually a last-ditch effort to direct the town. "When I die, lynch BLANK next". Scum don't care as much since nobody's going to listen to dead scum. Her wallpost was full of analysis but had almost no direction to it. I saw it as a last ditch effort to try to lamist the wagon off her and threw the hammer accordingly.

and like, why the fuck would an SK crumb?

[Human Sequencer]

Actually, why didn't Krylea claim?
And who did she try to kill N1? Grey?

I assume there's two possibilities for what happened night 1.
1. Both SK and Mafia nightkilled Ircher.
2. SK nightkilled Ircher, Mafia was blocked trying to nightkill Grey by Ircher.

I'm 120% fine sheeping All Alone for now, considering how obvtown he is. With that in mind, I'll park my vote on TwoFace while I try and get around to sifting through this game.
Please don't fuggin hammer while I'm away again lmao.
VOTE: TwoFace
I'm kinda surprised Grey flipped 2-shot, I was truly expecting him to be a VT drawing the nk. I suppose that wouldn't explain his conviction vs. Dash, though.

Alisae, could you elaborate on your AA read?

[Human Sequencer]

AA's hammer is towny as fuck unless he as scum figured out that Krylea is SK, which isn't unlikely but requires a whole lot of assumptions I don't want to make. AA is town until some of those assumptions become reality.

[TwoFace]

Again, if I am scum, why did noone on my scumteam join the case against Gin

I still think TwoFace is the most likely partner for RBD. For someone who seems as keen on considering all possibilities as TwoFace is, I find it really, really fishy that he didn't consider the possibility of Dash being scum here:

I don't even knothink what's going on but neither of you should've lynched. Cop/miller makes sense. Cop/miller/ascetic has happened before.

If you're legit, she's legit.

If you're fake, you're push on her makes sense.

I'm sure TwoFace has seen a miller fakeclaim before, I doubt he just forgot to consider that possibility. Most likely he just knew in advance that lynching RBD wouldn't advance his wincon and wanted to keep that lynch out of play.

VOTE: TwoFace

I have seen a bunch of things before but I've never seen scum fake claim miller before actually. You want to lynch me for that, go ahead.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Again, if I am scum, why did noone on my scumteam join the case against Gin

I still think TwoFace is the most likely partner for RBD. For someone who seems as keen on considering all possibilities as TwoFace is, I find it really, really fishy that he didn't consider the possibility of Dash being scum here:

I don't even knothink what's going on but neither of you should've lynched. Cop/miller makes sense. Cop/miller/ascetic has happened before.

If you're legit, she's legit.

If you're fake, you're push on her makes sense.

I'm sure TwoFace has seen a miller fakeclaim before, I doubt he just forgot to consider that possibility. Most likely he just knew in advance that lynching RBD wouldn't advance his wincon and wanted to keep that lynch out of play.

VOTE: TwoFace

I have seen a bunch of things before but I've never seen scum fake claim miller before actually. You want to lynch me for that, go ahead.

If you're going to lynch Twoface for that then you need to vote me as well. Please realize I was also fooled by it. The only reason you should vote a player due to the fake miller claim is if the player decided to vote Grey afterwards.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

You're a scumfuck

VOTE: Krylea

ALSO HA!

Called that shit D1, funnily enough I still wouldn't have caused a mislynch on D1

[Human Sequencer]

Grey, what do you think of Naomi and All Alone?

Really wish I got the answer to this to be honest.

[TwoFace]

AA's hammer is towny as fuck unless he as scum figured out that Krylea is SK, which isn't unlikely but requires a whole lot of assumptions I don't want to make. AA is town until some of those assumptions become reality.

His hammer was lucky as fuck.

[TwoFace]

VOTE: Naomi

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Guys, once we get the VC 2.Lynch, look for the early-middle voters. SK wasn't outed, so there was no reason for maf to hunt the SK in the thread.

This means, essentially, that scum perceived this as a mislynch. I'll be at work but I think the best course of action is to compare the players from the D1 lynch to the D2 lynch and how quickly they voted/reason why they voted.

Hopefully it's revealing and if no one else does this, at least I'll have an analysis to give.

[Human Sequencer]

AA's hammer is towny as fuck unless he as scum figured out that Krylea is SK, which isn't unlikely but requires a whole lot of assumptions I don't want to make. AA is town until some of those assumptions become reality.

His hammer was lucky as fuck.

What do you mean to imply by this?
1. If he's town, he logically deduced that Krylea was probably an anti-town role (scum) and lynched her.
2. If he's scum, he either
A. logically deduced that Krylea was sk and lynched her.
B. lolhammered what he thought was town for the mislynch and luckily happened upon serial killer

Do you mean to imply that 2B is the only possible outcome? I think that's incredibly unlikely.

[TwoFace]

I didn't see Krylea as that scummy. There's no way anyone could have known he was sk or even maf. Just being wrong on somebody doesn't make them scum and from what I can remember that's basically why people suspected him.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

You didn't see Krylea as scummy?

D1 did you think Dash was scummy?

[Human Sequencer]

So you're saying that Alisae, Grey, AA, Gin, Flubbernugget and I are all either mafia or incorrect town, even though we were demonstrably correct post-flip?