Micro 667 - Chosen Mafia (Game Over)

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Post Post #600  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:42 am

The fact that creature wasn't the nightkill makes him pretty likely to be chosen in my eyes.
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Post Post #601  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:43 am

My paranoia reads dying always make me happy.
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Post Post #602  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:47 am

In post 600, Human Sequencer wrote:The fact that creature wasn't the nightkill makes him pretty likely to be chosen in my eyes.

That could be said about literally everyone still alive...

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Post Post #603  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:48 am

There's a reason I think creature is more likely to be chosen than the other players alive.

Can you try and figure out what it is?
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Post Post #604  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:49 am

I'm feeling tempted to do Tenshii.
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Post Post #605  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:35 am

In post 603, Human Sequencer wrote:There's a reason I think creature is more likely to be chosen than the other players alive.

Can you try and figure out what it is?

Because you're scum and already know who Chosen Townies are?

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Post Post #606  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:37 am

In post 603, Human Sequencer wrote:There's a reason I think creature is more likely to be chosen than the other players alive.

Can you try and figure out what it is?

No, what is it? And ironically this is setting up to be the same situation that happened with Creature when he talked about chosen townies.

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Post Post #607  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:38 am

@creature I doubt scum would townread chosen to the extent Tenshii is. I'm doing a more thorough analysis right now.
What were you trying to get to in ?

@dave :roll:
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Post Post #608  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:40 am

So what was that nn30 wagon about? I still don't get why it happened.

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Post Post #609  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:40 am

Thought you could possible be scum sliding under the radar.
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Post Post #610  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:41 am

In post 608, Tenshii wrote:So what was that nn30 wagon about? I still don't get why it happened.

Scum were less passionate for it, they probably were planning to pocket nn30.
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Post Post #611  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:42 am

That checks out, but why did you ask nn and tenshii at the time? If you townread Tenshii enough to trust his reads at that point, what has caused you to change or question your perspective?
I know you townread nn.
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Post Post #612  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:43 am

In post 607, Human Sequencer wrote:@creature I doubt scum would townread chosen to the extent Tenshii is. I'm doing a more thorough analysis right now.
What were you trying to get to in ?

@dave :roll:

You're not denying it...

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Post Post #613  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:48 am

They were active at the time and they weren't Vedith (who would just say scum).
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Post Post #614  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:49 am

Creature, Human, TTTT: Why did you all vote for nn30?

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Post Post #615  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:51 am

Again, I wasn't feeling this was his town!game. At the end of the day I kind of thought more about it, but even if I decided to not lynch him, I might end lynching him later.
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Post Post #616  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:53 am

In post 610, Creature wrote:
In post 608, Tenshii wrote:So what was that nn30 wagon about? I still don't get why it happened.

Scum were less passionate for it, they probably were planning to pocket nn30.

Oh lol I get it. So you're implying scum weren't attacking nn30 as hard? Then who were scum in this scenario?

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Post Post #617  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:53 am

Creature was playing town leader briefly, and a lot of the playerlist townreads him. For reference:
Grendel townreads creature.
Hiraki implies he won't be voting creature.
and Shadow townreads creature.
Tenshii townreads creature.
and TTTT implies a townread on Creature.
I townread creature.

Universally townread town are prime candidates for the nightkill, especially if they're capable of co-ordinating town like he did recently near deadline. He's probably their strongest nk at the moment, so the fact that he isn't dead is telling.
The only other way to explain this is if he's scum, in which case I invite you to convince me of that, or that I've missed something about Grendel. Considering town (me) was hardpushing his slot lately, it'd be an easy mislynch to manufacture later on in the game, so I'm not so sure it's such a valid nightkill.

@dave Yeah, I'm scum. Sup.
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Post Post #618  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:54 am

In post 617, Human Sequencer wrote:@dave Yeah, I'm scum. Sup.

GG

VOTE: Human

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Post Post #619  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:54 am

This is effectively L-2 because there's no way in hell Dave isn't gonna vote here.

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Post Post #620  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:56 am

You've never played a game where scum was universally townread?
It happens.
It's called being good scum.

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Post Post #621  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:56 am

In post 613, Creature wrote:They were active at the time and they weren't Vedith (who would just say scum).

This also checks out.
In post 614, Tenshii wrote:Creature, Human, TTTT: Why did you all vote for nn30?

His posts read fake as fuck, I discussed this with TTTT briefly before taking a closer look and posting my findings here.

@Dave. Again, I invite you to tell me otherwise.
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Post Post #622  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:58 am

In post 620, PsychoticDave wrote:You've never played a game where scum was universally townread?
It happens.
It's called being good scum.

Depends if the player is known for being good at scum.
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Post Post #623  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:59 am

In post 621, Human Sequencer wrote:His posts read fake as fuck, I discussed this with TTTT briefly before taking a closer look and posting my findings here. 495

You voted nn30 when you came to the conclusion of townreading him?

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Post Post #624  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:00 pm

VOTE: Dave
Considering how bad his town play was in our micro not too long ago, it's not a stretch to think that his play as scum is truly as transparent and bad as it is here.

@Tenshii That post was my unvote. I was not on the NN lynch wagon.
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