Pick Your Power: Double Deck (GAME OVER)

[Kison]

One point on the other side - Dunn wanting to lynch Titus is plausible; relevant posts are post 3725 and post 3595. The latter being particularly notable as containing the phrase "kill titus".

This in particular gives me pause. It's definitely a bizarre choice of words if he is town and I would be voting right now had you not pointed out post 3595. Seeing him use the same wording in the game thread, it's plausible that he meant "kill" to signify lynch in the neighborhood thread.

Dunn was also on Maria quite a bit during day two during the buildup of Jackel's wagon.

It seems unlikely to be about the Grey shot. It would be bold scum indeed to go through with that after slipping it to the hood. More likely it was just about the kill the next day. Is that likely? Not sure. Scum could reasonably shoot at Titus for holding the King of Diamonds. Much more likely if the scum held the other one, I'd say.

If Titus hadn't been killed & was still in the game, would you be reading this any differently?

[SpyreX]

@fish

OK i missed that and I'm intrigued.

What was the timing involved? Are we talking minutes like it was part of a natural conversation or deadline loomong check in with scum partners

[ArcAngel9]

Mod, I am on V/LA until 2nd January, sorry for the delayed notice.

[MathBlade]

....lovely. This may be the slowest game of mafia ever. Dunn scumslipped and Grey likely shot Titus so is scum with Dunn and ArcAngel9 goes lurkfest mode. GG no re .

[-Grey-]

....lovely. This may be the slowest game of mafia ever. Dunn scumslipped and Grey likely shot Titus so is scum with Dunn and ArcAngel9 goes lurkfest mode. GG no re .

I didn't likely shoot her, I claimed the vig straight out.

[MathBlade]

....lovely. This may be the slowest game of mafia ever. Dunn scumslipped and Grey likely shot Titus so is scum with Dunn and ArcAngel9 goes lurkfest mode. GG no re .

I didn't likely shoot her, I claimed the vig straight out.

Stop calling it a vig. Vig implies town. You likely shot meant that you with Dunn decided to kill Titus.

[-Grey-]

....lovely. This may be the slowest game of mafia ever. Dunn scumslipped and Grey likely shot Titus so is scum with Dunn and ArcAngel9 goes lurkfest mode. GG no re .

I didn't likely shoot her, I claimed the vig straight out.

Stop calling it a vig. Vig implies town. You likely shot meant that you with Dunn decided to kill Titus.

The scum kill was disabled, from what I heard.

I used my alpha vig shot, so yes I vigged her.

Cry me a river.

[Maxous]

At the very least, the incident would actually suggest Gerry!town and menno!town

[MathBlade]

Lol a vig is only a vig if you are town. Otherwise it is a scumkill of a different name. You didn't vig her.

[MathBlade]

At the very least, the incident would actually suggest Gerry!town and menno!town

A freaking men.

[Maxous]

let's lynch mcmenno and vig gerry

Like how does any of this make them legit scum???
I'm gonna need actual reasons.
Jumping all over a "scum slip" is a towny thing to do.

Where's the whole "this will show how scum they are"?

[davesaz]

I thought we had agreed that Dunn revived a protown card to a town player. Would scum take that chance?

[MathBlade]

...I have claimed Jailkeeper on D1 before no provocation. Dunn doing something townie doesn't negate a scumslip.

[MathBlade]

You be scums with Dunn and Grey. Not ArcAngel. Nah lurking sucks.

[MathBlade]

Bah *

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Jumping all over a "scum slip" is a towny thing to do.

no

absolutely not

Jumping on "scumslips" is an incredibly scummy thing to do unless there is VERY (and I mean VERY) hard evidence that it's not an awkward phrasing of language (and thus an actual, for real, slip).

The reason why being that jumping onto something that seems "objectively true" (i.e., accidentally revealing oneself as scum) allows scum to absolve themselves from actually developing fake reads from gameplay, tone, gut, etc., and can instead latch onto something that can easily be proven and isn't "wrong". Then, when Dunn (most likely) flips town, the onus is suddenly on him instead of Mcmenno or Gerry (not that gerry should be lynched or vigged btw). Everything about encouraging it is intellectually lazy and pro-scum.

What about Dunn's role

in the thread

is scummy? Even more important,

WHAT ABOUT KRASKA WAS EVEN SCUMMY

? kraska was stupidly obvious town and that read absolutely carries onto -Grey- too, even if he made an extremely sub-optimal vig (which btw screams more of town than scum)

fuck man, in the words of kraska.......

MURDER

CHARLOUX

MCMENNO

[gigabyteTroubadour]

mathblade do your reads always feel so disconnected from reality

like i want to townread you for it (especially when you accused me of "lynch shopping") but i have to wonder to what extent you would pull this off as scum

[gigabyteTroubadour]

we need our boy zach in here i think

[Fishythefish]

One point on the other side - Dunn wanting to lynch Titus is plausible; relevant posts are post 3725 and post 3595. The latter being particularly notable as containing the phrase "kill titus".

This in particular gives me pause. It's definitely a bizarre choice of words if he is town and I would be voting right now had you not pointed out post 3595. Seeing him use the same wording in the game thread, it's plausible that he meant "kill" to signify lynch in the neighborhood thread.

Dunn was also on Maria quite a bit during day two during the buildup of Jackel's wagon.

It seems unlikely to be about the Grey shot. It would be bold scum indeed to go through with that after slipping it to the hood. More likely it was just about the kill the next day. Is that likely? Not sure. Scum could reasonably shoot at Titus for holding the King of Diamonds. Much more likely if the scum held the other one, I'd say.

If Titus hadn't been killed & was still in the game, would you be reading this any differently?

Yeah, spotting 3595 has weakened my resolve a bit.

If Titus hadn't been killed, I'd be reading this much the same - if this was a scumslip, I doubt it was related to Titus's actual death.

@fish

OK i missed that and I'm intrigued.

What was the timing involved? Are we talking minutes like it was part of a natural conversation or deadline loomong check in with scum partners

This all happened ~2 days before deadline. There were a few hours between the post before the possible slip and the slip. All the follow-up posts are spread out, with hours between each.

Jumping all over a "scum slip" is a towny thing to do.

no

absolutely not

Jumping on "scumslips" is an incredibly scummy thing to do unless there is VERY (and I mean VERY) hard evidence that it's not an awkward phrasing of language (and thus an actual, for real, slip).

The reason why being that jumping onto something that seems "objectively true" (i.e., accidentally revealing oneself as scum) allows scum to absolve themselves from actually developing fake reads from gameplay, tone, gut, etc., and can instead latch onto something that can easily be proven and isn't "wrong". Then, when Dunn (most likely) flips town, the onus is suddenly on him instead of Mcmenno or Gerry (not that gerry should be lynched or vigged btw). Everything about encouraging it is intellectually lazy and pro-scum.

What about Dunn's role

in the thread

is scummy? Even more important,

WHAT ABOUT KRASKA WAS EVEN SCUMMY

? kraska was stupidly obvious town and that read absolutely carries onto -Grey- too, even if he made an extremely sub-optimal vig (which btw screams more of town than scum)

fuck man, in the words of kraska.......

MURDER

CHARLOUX

MCMENNO

Let's be clear. You don't have to think Grey is scum here to think Dunn slipped.

What do you think of the actual post itself? That is, posting "Let's kill Titus" in a neighbourhood, apropos of nothing? This is not some accidental typo we're jumping all over. It's a post with a clear explanation if Dunn is scum who fucked up his browser tabs, and none if he is town.

In the thread - Dunn's play since then has rung alarm bells for me. I want him to answer my last post.

[MathBlade]

Your entire rant is don't lynch him because he picked a card. Dunn slipped. McMenno claims scum all the time it is literally NAI.

Dunn and Grey are partners.

I only get scumread heavily as Town. When I am scum I plan things. Here I has no plan. I lynch de scums.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

mathblade do your reads always feel so disconnected from reality

like i want to townread you for it (especially when you accused me of "lynch shopping") but i have to wonder to what extent you would pull this off as scum

this came out a lot ruder than i wanted it to, sorry

but i absolutely cannot see scum motivation in kraska and even if i flubbed up really badly once i think i can read kraska well

Let's be clear. You don't have to think Grey is scum here to think Dunn slipped.

What do you think of the actual post itself? That is, posting "Let's kill Titus" in a neighbourhood, apropos of nothing? This is not some accidental typo we're jumping all over. It's a post with a clear explanation if Dunn is scum who fucked up his browser tabs, and none if he is town.

In the thread - Dunn's play since then has rung alarm bells for me. I want him to answer my last post.

It seems like something town!Dunn would say normally, yes. I was going to go through Open 649 (my game with Dunn) because I recall him saying something similar out of nowhere in that game.

I don't think his reaction is that particularly awful though.

@Mathblade, thanks for the misrep but I'm not townreading -Grey- just because Kraska picked the King of Diamonds

[-Grey-]

scum!Blade just wants me lynched to take the king of diamonds out of play.

[Fishythefish]

Doctors should strongly consider protecting Grey tonight. As the last holder of the King of Diamonds, he's serious business.

[MathBlade]

@Giga I am saying you are townreading Dunn for it.

@Fishy -- That is a waste. Grey is scum.

A card is not alignment indicative. As scum I would have picked that card because then no powers go off at night either. All it is is a rank and a suit people.

[Maxous]

Jumping all over a "scum slip" is a towny thing to do.

no

absolutely not

Jumping on "scumslips" is an incredibly scummy thing to do unless there is VERY (and I mean VERY) hard evidence that it's not an awkward phrasing of language (and thus an actual, for real, slip).

Meh, not in my experience.