Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

[PeregrineV]

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PeregrineV

: #8869 seems to imply that you think some dead players got culted. That makes very little sense, as far as I can tell; Skullduggery's a competent enough mod to ensure that cultedness would show in a flip (given that we apparently have no other way to determine it or even that a cult exists), and a cult wouldn't target a player who'd already died for recruitment. Can you explain what's going on there?

I'm arguing against the fact that people seem to think a cult was created.

Do you think a cult was created when Maxous died?

[PeregrineV]

So if you have joined the "new Maxous faction" but used to be scum, you get all of your old scumbuddies lynched while your cultbuddies cult the rest of town. That makes your cult win.

(If this is obvious to a numbskull like me, how do you miss this?)

Right. Because we're certain to immediately trust someone saying "Hey I used to be mafia now I'm cult. Follow me!" And not just, you know, lynch them.

Right. Because mafia and cult win together, and cult can grow, so killing the mafia members seems dumb for cult.

Missed this exchange earlier, but it gives me a really strong "inside knowledge" tell on PeregrineV. I've never seen a game where Mafia and cult win together before, and it's not the sort of thing I would think of. It definitely makes very little sense as an

assumption

.

So I get the feeling that PeregrineV knows something that I don't, and am interested to know how.

I didn't include the sarcasm tags, but read it in a matter that indicates disbelief while reading it.

[PeregrineV]

Counting the votes myself: just you and MathBlade it seems.
I'll be very uncomfortable if the wagon grows too large in PV's absence (there's no point in pressuring someone who isn't reading the thread, and I don't want a repeat of what happened yesterday), but I definitely believe PV is the best lynch at the moment, so:

VOTE: PeregrineV

If you're one of the players who can read PV and think he's town, please speak up.

Yo.

Here.

He's town.

[MathBlade]

Lol. Bullshit claim.

[MathBlade]

Bullshit. Claim. *

[PeregrineV]

Fine. ONE MORE.
You avoided voting before to stop people from sheeping you at all via votes. Yes?
What's different here? The potential for people to sheep is still the same as before.

Because PV has to be an SK FMPOV.

Can you link to all the games where you were right? Since this won't be one of them, but I would like to see your pedigree listed once again.

[PeregrineV]

Lol. Bullshit claim.

Sorry, bulletproof investigative, that's what I am. Take it up with Skull if you don't like it.

[JaeReed]

UNVOTE:

I really don't think Pere is scum here, sorry Math :/ Is there anyone you would compromise on?

[PeregrineV]

And, I'll be here for a few hours, live.

Also, not hammering myself, so there it that too.

[MathBlade]

Fine. ONE MORE.
You avoided voting before to stop people from sheeping you at all via votes. Yes?
What's different here? The potential for people to sheep is still the same as before.

Because PV has to be an SK FMPOV.

Can you link to all the games where you were right? Since this won't be one of them, but I would like to see your pedigree listed once again.

Gistou. Named almost all the other scumteam in multiball for one. Look at scum chat.

I do. I think PV is scum and is the SK. If he was truly a BP investigative he would have cleared me up a long as time ago. Hell when creature claimed BP he would check then. The claim is shit.

Sometimes I am right and some times I am wrong. However gambler's fallacy gets you nowhere. What matters is if I am right here.

[JaeReed]

The bulletproof investigative thing was sarcasm from him.

[MathBlade]

And if it is that he is an investigative and is BP he should have no problem sharing his results. I don't see Skull putting two BOs in the setup and both are town.

So if he is a BP investigative then he would have checked me a long time ago and outed that I am Town not thrown shade my way.

If he is an investigative who is BP then I call bullshit again. I don't have an alternate wincon and have to eliminate all non Town.

PV is just making an excuse as to why he wouldn't be shot.

[MathBlade]

The bulletproof investigative thing was sarcasm from him.

Then he needs to claim.

[JaeReed]

Unfortunately I don't have a compelling argument for him being town that I feel you'd listen to because it's essentially "tone". He's not trying to appease or anything here that I can see.

Peregrine V claimed dog census I think? He can check how many dogs were on a wagon? I'm not sure what the use of that even is, to be honest.

[PeregrineV]

Fine. ONE MORE.
You avoided voting before to stop people from sheeping you at all via votes. Yes?
What's different here? The potential for people to sheep is still the same as before.

Because PV has to be an SK FMPOV.

Can you link to all the games where you were right? Since this won't be one of them, but I would like to see your pedigree listed once again.

Gistou. Named almost all the other scumteam in multiball for one. Look at scum chat.

I do. I think PV is scum and is the SK. If he was truly a BP investigative he would have cleared me up a long as time ago. Hell when creature claimed BP he would check then. The claim is shit.

Sometimes I am right and some times I am wrong. However gambler's fallacy gets you nowhere. What matters is if I am right here.

http://comma.guide/vocative-comma/

[PeregrineV]

The bulletproof investigative thing was sarcasm from him.

Then he needs to claim.

9722

I'm Lesser Dog

A happy looking collie thing with a sword and shield

[MathBlade]

Yes. Those are things. Things I tend not to use in mafia.

Now then back on point claim. And if you did claim clearer.

[MathBlade]

Pedit looking at the link.

[PeregrineV]

Unfortunately I don't have a compelling argument for him being town that I feel you'd listen to because it's essentially "tone". He's not trying to appease or anything here that I can see.

Peregrine V claimed dog census I think? He can check how many dogs were on a wagon? I'm not sure what the use of that even is, to be honest.

Yeah. It allowed me to determine Not Chara was also a dog by day6, so usefulness is somewhere between zero and little.

[MathBlade]

Do you think Almost50 is scum PV?

[JaeReed]

Considering he's voting him I'd say so.

[JaeReed]

Unfortunately I don't have a compelling argument for him being town that I feel you'd listen to because it's essentially "tone". He's not trying to appease or anything here that I can see.

Peregrine V claimed dog census I think? He can check how many dogs were on a wagon? I'm not sure what the use of that even is, to be honest.

Yeah. It allowed me to determine Not Chara was also a dog by day6, so usefulness is somewhere between zero and little.

If you're town the usefulness comes in at checking for fakeclaims in flavour or if there's scum in the dogs. The question is whether it's either of those or just a red herring.

[MathBlade]

I don't think this is the case. I am skeptical of PV's claim. I would have expected him to post something more dog esque at the start of the game. Will reread his ISO.

[MathBlade]

Actually found something just a sec.

[MathBlade]

MagnaofIllusion -- zakk, Nahdia, Not Chara, Narna, Firebringer, Maxous, Creature, Gamma Emerald, Nosferatu, SirCakez, Leonshade, Shiro

This is supposedly two dog wagon.

Why is Not Chara the only dog on it?