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inspectorscout · Post Post #2 (isolation #0) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:04 am

Hello, thank you all for reviewing!

Just a heads up: I'm currently modding a micro, and since I didn't mod 2 games already, I don't think I'm allowed to mod them concurrently.

In post 1, Firebringer wrote:Hi!
First look.
This is townsided

My last one started out horribly scumsided, so I'd say it's at least a bit of an improvement!
I'm looking forward to your suggestions.

inspectorscout · Post Post #4 (isolation #1) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:15 am

The miller is intended as a confirmable IC to the rolecop, rather than for the cop. I'm comfortable getting rid of the cop, even.

I don't mind making it a 2 player masonry, I'm fine with that.

If I get rid of the cop, would losing one of tracker-watcher still be required?

inspectorscout · Post Post #6 (isolation #2) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:26 am

Okay, thanks.

What would you guys say about changing the JOAT in a PT-cop? It basically finds out if anyone is in a PT, which is a masonry, neighborhood and mafia PT. It doesn't have that much use, but it can still function as a cop of some sort. X-shot if its too strong.

inspectorscout · Post Post #15 (isolation #3) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:55 pm

So probably the best thing I can do is completely removing the rolecop - miller interaction and going on the more social side of neighborhoods and PT cop. Should some players have a pre-made neighborhood (since fire mentioned that white mafia has a disadvantage in that they don't have a neighborizer)

@aeronaut: why would you change the BP? Because of vig and NK?

inspectorscout · Post Post #16 (isolation #4) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:51 am

bump? If that isn't too rude

inspectorscout · Post Post #19 (isolation #5) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:22 pm

A premade neighborhood with 2 white mafs and a vanilla? Most people think neighborhoods have 1 scum and I want to break that

inspectorscout · Post Post #21 (isolation #6) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:52 am

I'm not really in a rush yet, no worries. finals come before anything else.

on a side note; where is mastina?

inspectorscout · Post Post #24 (isolation #7) » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:07 am

2x White Mafia Goon
1x White Mafia Neapolitan

1x Black Mafia Goon
1x Black Mafia Neighborizer
1x Black Mafia 1-shot Bulletproof

3x Town Mason (1 masonry)
1x Town Doctor
1x Town 2-shot Vigilante
1x Town PT-Cop
6x Vanilla Townies

Premade neighborhood with white goon, white Neapolitan and vanilla townie

This is currently on the table.

inspectorscout · Post Post #25 (isolation #8) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:11 pm

If multiball is really not favorable, I could also work with removing the white team and adding 2 vanilla townies, or working with a serial killer.

If I don't do that, would a black/white balance theme work/be appropriate?

inspectorscout · Post Post #28 (isolation #9) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:51 pm

I'd love to keep the multiball, but I don't really know if it's looked down on in normals. If so, I can do without, obviously.

But if it's fine, even better

inspectorscout · Post Post #30 (isolation #10) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:10 am

In post 29, mastin2 wrote:It's not looked down on to my knowledge.
It's just uncommon.

Then it's fine.
What do you think of the currently proposed setup?

inspectorscout · Post Post #37 (isolation #11) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:28 pm

Then what do you suggest doing instead?

inspectorscout · Post Post #39 (isolation #12) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:30 am

Then let's do that!

Why exactly rolestopper and not roleblocker?

inspectorscout · Post Post #41 (isolation #13) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:38 am

Yeah...

Rolestopper is fine... but wouldn't be rolestopper - neighborizer vs bulletproof-neapolitan be more balanced, as I believe neapoltan is stronger than neighborizer, even with thr PT.

Also, wpuld balance black-white flavor work?

inspectorscout · Post Post #42 (isolation #14) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:07 pm

Shameless (slightly shameful) bump!

I'll try writing the new role PM's tomorrow.

inspectorscout · Post Post #44 (isolation #15) » Sun Dec 25, 2016 8:22 am

These are the new role PM's.
I'll give them colours to indicate alignment later on.

Spoiler: Town PT cop

Spoiler: White Mafia 1-shot Rolestopper

Spoiler: White Mafia Goon

Spoiler: White Mafia Neapolitan

inspectorscout · Post Post #45 (isolation #16) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:57 pm

In post 24, inspectorscout wrote:1x White Mafia Goon
1x White Mafia Neapolitan
1x White Mafia Rolestopper

1x Black Mafia Goon
1x Black Mafia Neighborizer
1x Black Mafia 1-shot Bulletproof

3x Town Mason (1 masonry)
1x Town Doctor
1x Town 2-shot Vigilante
1x Town PT-Cop
6x Vanilla Townies

urgh. bump.

inspectorscout · Post Post #47 (isolation #17) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:20 am

Rolestopper should've been 1-shot, my bad.

What about changing combinations and having white with neapolitan and 1shot Bp, black with neighb and 1shot rolestopper?

inspectorscout · Post Post #51 (isolation #18) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:31 am

Thanks!
I'll update the role PM's and post them in a minute!

inspectorscout · Post Post #52 (isolation #19) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:50 am

Spoiler: Vanilla Townie

Spoiler: Town PT cop

Spoiler: Town Mason

Spoiler: Town Doctor

Spoiler: Town 2-shot Vigilante

Spoiler: Black Mafia Goon

Spoiler: Black Mafia Neighborizer

Spoiler: Black Mafia 1-shot Rolestopper

Spoiler: White Mafia 1-shot Bulletproof

Spoiler: White Mafia Goon

Spoiler: White Mafia Neapolitan

inspectorscout · Post Post #53 (isolation #20) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:52 am

Setup wrote:1x White Mafia Goon
1x White Mafia Neapolitan
1x White Mafia 1-shot Bulletproof

1x Black Mafia Goon
1x Black Mafia Neighborizer
1x Black Mafia 1-shot Rolestopper

3x Town Mason (1 masonry)
1x Town Doctor
1x Town 2-shot Vigilante
1x Town PT-Cop
6x Vanilla Townies

inspectorscout · Post Post #55 (isolation #21) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:28 pm

As rolestopper stops all other actions targeting their target, the nightkill is blocked by that. The bulletproof will not lose it's vest.

A doctor is additional protection. As such, it stops the kill before the vest is needed.

I'll post an action resolution in a few minutes.

inspectorscout · Post Post #56 (isolation #22) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:44 pm

NAR (from top to bottom and left to right):

Rolestopper
Doctor, bulletproof
Neighborize
Nightkill + vig (although resolved after everything else)
Pt cop, neapolitan

inspectorscout · Post Post #57 (isolation #23) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:50 am

Final bump (?)

inspectorscout · Post Post #59 (isolation #24) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:24 am

I don t know. Is there a general consensus for that?

inspectorscout · Post Post #63 (isolation #25) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:37 pm

Yes and yes.

inspectorscout · Post Post #65 (isolation #26) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:56 am

Masons are indeed strong, but with 2 kills and only 1 protective, they'll die as soon as they claim, I think.
I could change the rolestopper into a roleblocker (1-shot, of course) but I think it's alightly too weak. Also, 9/10 it will be used as 1-shot bulletproof anyway.

inspectorscout · Post Post #67 (isolation #27) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:51 am

Thank you!

I'll poke mastina.

inspectorscout · Post Post #70 (isolation #28) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:47 am

and can I actually mod this concurrently with a micro with just 1 game experience?

inspectorscout · Post Post #75 (isolation #29) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:49 pm

Does flavor I use have to be approved?

inspectorscout · Post Post #78 (isolation #30) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:49 pm

Okay, thanks!

I will be using black/white/balance flavor, with some weird rant about balance and abstract black-white images.
Game will be called "House of Harmony Mafia"

inspectorscout · Post Post #79 (isolation #31) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:51 pm

A massive thanks to all of you!