Just as confident as I can be five pages into the game.In post 124, Pepchoninga wrote:Actually you seem inconsistent in what you do. You seem pretty confident in your scumread after about five pages of nonsense. Good job.In post 121, -Grey- wrote:Your question is as irrelevant as theirs was because I was going back and forth between two scumreads trying to figure out which one I wanted more.
Congratulations, you win.
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Has calling me a noob become a meme or something? At least don't use it in your arguments cuz it's getting on my nerves >.<In post 128, Anotora wrote:So, Garmr was active in this thread for an hour and literally all he did was (jokingly or not) buddy up to Firebringer and comment on Pepchoninga's newbieness.
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Letting people know it annoys you is the worst thing you can do.In post 130, Pepchoninga wrote:
Has calling me a noob become a meme or something? At least don't use it in your arguments cuz it's getting on my nerves >.<In post 128, Anotora wrote:So, Garmr was active in this thread for an hour and literally all he did was (jokingly or not) buddy up to Firebringer and comment on Pepchoninga's newbieness.
That's... not a great contribution on his part.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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I belive in sportsmanship and this includes counting everybody as your equal in a game like that. Since the other things are disrespectful ^^In post 131, -Grey- wrote:
Letting people know it annoys you is the worst thing you can do.In post 130, Pepchoninga wrote:
Has calling me a noob become a meme or something? At least don't use it in your arguments cuz it's getting on my nerves >.<In post 128, Anotora wrote:So, Garmr was active in this thread for an hour and literally all he did was (jokingly or not) buddy up to Firebringer and comment on Pepchoninga's newbieness.
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I believe in sportsmanship too. Part of that is nutting up and not letting inconsequential remarks affect your mindset.In post 132, Pepchoninga wrote:
I belive in sportsmanship and this includes counting everybody as your equal in a game like that. Since the other things are disrespectful ^^In post 131, -Grey- wrote:
Letting people know it annoys you is the worst thing you can do.In post 130, Pepchoninga wrote:
Has calling me a noob become a meme or something? At least don't use it in your arguments cuz it's getting on my nerves >.<In post 128, Anotora wrote:So, Garmr was active in this thread for an hour and literally all he did was (jokingly or not) buddy up to Firebringer and comment on Pepchoninga's newbieness.
That's... not a great contribution on his part.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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I will agree with you on that. Tho I would still like to play without those remarks. Think whatever you wish tho.In post 133, -Grey- wrote:
I believe in sportsmanship too. Part of that is nutting up and not letting inconsequential remarks affect your mindset.In post 132, Pepchoninga wrote:
I belive in sportsmanship and this includes counting everybody as your equal in a game like that. Since the other things are disrespectful ^^In post 131, -Grey- wrote:
Letting people know it annoys you is the worst thing you can do.In post 130, Pepchoninga wrote:
Has calling me a noob become a meme or something? At least don't use it in your arguments cuz it's getting on my nerves >.<In post 128, Anotora wrote:So, Garmr was active in this thread for an hour and literally all he did was (jokingly or not) buddy up to Firebringer and comment on Pepchoninga's newbieness.
That's... not a great contribution on his part.-
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So you expect ground breaking work in rvs and I will work at my own pace. Honestly you haven't really done that much noteworthy either. Also dislike the way you framed my view pepchininga I was pointing to light behavior I didn't understand and tried to find a reasoning to it. I was hoping to see others reaction butIn post 128, Anotora wrote:So, Garmr was active in this thread for an hour and literally all he did was (jokingly or not) buddy up to Firebringer and comment on Pepchoninga's newbieness.
That's... not a great contribution on his part.
So far I have a town read on
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grey is back to null with his recent behavior. His constant attacking seems kinda forced.
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Bullshit.In post 9, Anotora wrote:Hi everyone! Really excited to start playing forum mafia again!
VOTE: Obvious Alt for what she said in the Queue.
Everyone here owes it to the town to participate fully in discussion and scumhunting, and a great deal of that happens with back-and-forth argument and working off of each other's ideas. Trying to fly solo, though it may not be scummy in this one particular case, is anti-town IMO. So let's put her through some extra scrutiny by votes.In post 448, Obvious Alt wrote:/in mini
Saying this here, before role PMs go out, so saying it later is NAI. This account is experimenting with a new strategy to test its validity. I will be leaning HEAVILY on initial gut reads, and will be unlikely to respond to alternate views coming from others.
I fully intend to take it seriously, it has merely been my experience of late that the more people allow themselves to be influenced, the more they tend to be manipulated. I'm going back to basics, and trusting my own gut - not yours.In post 17, Pepchoninga wrote:
First, hello to everybody and second I hope that Alt takes a serious approach to the game and is gonna participate to the fullest, else he might actually ruin the experience. But this is also not something you should use as a clear argument before everyone got to even say hello.In post 9, Anotora wrote:Hi everyone! Really excited to start playing forum mafia again!
VOTE: Obvious Alt for what she said in the Queue.
Everyone here owes it to the town to participate fully in discussion and scumhunting, and a great deal of that happens with back-and-forth argument and working off of each other's ideas. Trying to fly solo, though it may not be scummy in this one particular case, is anti-town IMO. So let's put her through some extra scrutiny by votes.In post 448, Obvious Alt wrote:/in mini
Saying this here, before role PMs go out, so saying it later is NAI. This account is experimenting with a new strategy to test its validity. I will be leaning HEAVILY on initial gut reads, and will be unlikely to respond to alternate views coming from others.
I'll listen to and engage with discussion, but I'm going to be listening to myself most of all.
Acknowledged. Thank you for following protocol.In post 21, Firebringer wrote:I am a miller.
Is this for real?In post 34, RadiantCowbells wrote:It's time for us to gloriously VOTE: Draw.
All aboard choo choo choo.
Also I cc miller so powerlynch Firebringer.
Super unlikely.In post 36, Firebringer wrote:
What if we are both miller? O_oIn post 34, RadiantCowbells wrote:It's time for us to gloriously VOTE: Draw.
All aboard choo choo choo.
Also I cc miller so powerlynch Firebringer.
I concur.In post 85, Firebringer wrote:Town read on antora
I was thinking the same, actually.In post 95, Firebringer wrote:Grey you sound like a house alt
Pending a confirmation from RC, my guy says Grey should go.
VOTE: Grey
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I'm sorry was your 3rd sentence directed to me, since I didn't really understand it.In post 135, Garmr wrote:
So you expect ground breaking work in rvs and I will work at my own pace. Honestly you haven't really done that much noteworthy either. Also dislike the way you framed my view pepchininga I was pointing to light behavior I didn't understand and tried to find a reasoning to it. I was hoping to see others reaction butIn post 128, Anotora wrote:So, Garmr was active in this thread for an hour and literally all he did was (jokingly or not) buddy up to Firebringer and comment on Pepchoninga's newbieness.
That's... not a great contribution on his part.
So far I have a town read on
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grey is back to null with his recent behavior. His constant attacking seems kinda forced.
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Hello captain obviousIn post 15, Anotora wrote:
Yet you voted for it.In post 14, -Grey- wrote:No Lynch is never an option on d1.
Answered this yet you never bothered inquiring further into why not?In post 27, Anotora wrote:Garmr, why are your posts so fixated on Firebringer?
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It's much, much likelier that one of you two is scum.In post 36, Firebringer wrote:
What if we are both miller? O_oIn post 34, RadiantCowbells wrote: Also I cc miller so powerlynch Firebringer.
I feel like your just posting this shit to make it seem like your involved. Anyone who's not new can see rc is bull shitting at this point with the lack of vote.In post 50, Anotora wrote:RC, you serious about your miller claim? Because if you are then we have at least a 50/50 chance of lynching scum Day 1 and that's a great place to start.
engage in wifom then right off your own post as wifomy what's the motivation as town to do this. It seems counter productive and just looks like something someone would post to make it look like their doing something.In post 84, Anotora wrote:
I think it's more likely for a scum to claim miller early than for scum to counterclaim miller. This is in part because of how unlikely two millers are.In post 67, Frozen Angel wrote: a scum should be idiot to claim miller. (I'm sure Fire and RC are not idiots - ) [I'm joking! I love you both] cause there is a meta to never let a miller reach mylo lylo.
If Firebringer is scum, then claiming miller was a big risk for him that could also have paid off. On the other hand, if RadiantCowbells is scum, claiming miller would be a terrible move, since at best he'd get a mislynch on Firebringer and then be confirmed scum, and at worst he'd be lynched straight off Day 1.
It almost seems to me like we should put such a bad scum move past RC and vote Firebringer, but that's WIFOMy.
I'm not doing anything either way until RC confirms that his claim was serious.
Compliments grey on his scum hunting and calls him pro town doesn't list anypoints seems like a generic make believe read.In post 89, Anotora wrote:
You're asking what my read on Grey is? My very early read on him is somewhat pro-town based on hisIn post 81, Frozen Angel wrote:ahh let me make the case then:
@Anotora , You stated your not a fan of Grey no lynch vote, but thats a topic to discus later in day. Grey beleives you're scum for pretending/suggesting No lynch is a viable discussable option in day 1.In post 14, -Grey- wrote:No. No Lynch is never an option on d1. That you are feigning objection to it for now and keeping it open as a possibility for later if town is amenable to it gives me scum vibes.
what that makes you think about Grey and his rvs no lynch vote and then his next vote on you?actual scumhunting effort, with clear posts with clear points to them.
Contradicts the last post by calling him out for vote hopping. If grey makes good points why are you asking him about his vote hopping and instead not try and argue against his case against you. Instead of trying to figure out why he scum reads you. You scarecrow him in a different direction.In post 96, Anotora wrote:
Could you rephrase that? I don't understand.In post 92, Frozen Angel wrote:no I asked what that particular thing I said means to you.
Why are you votehopping?-Grey- wrote:
I'm protown for scumreading you with clear posts with actual points to them?In post 89, Anotora wrote:You're asking what my read on Grey is? My very early read on him is somewhat pro-town based on his actual scumhunting effort, with clear posts with clear points to them.
Sounds like a confession if I ever heard one.
VOTE: Anotora
So it's ok early game to not say much ok.In post 112, Anotora wrote:
I mean, it was a reasonable thing for him to criticize, especially considering that was only page 1 and we didn't have a lot to go off of.In post 101, Frozen Angel wrote:and I mean I like to know what is your opinion about the fact that "he scum reads you for believing Not voting is a topic to be discussed later in day"
But grey has such good town read right you think his points on pepchoninga were good from his perspective. You don't seem fussed with his actual reasoning to vote you in the first place. Seems like your just attacking here for a possible vote.In post 115, Anotora wrote:It almost seems like you're rewarding me for townreading you, by taking your vote off of me and putting it back on Pepchoninga. That's the scummiest thing you've done so far.
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Post 74 I comment How your post early game seem a little superficial not to deep with analysis. Two reasoning I give why it might be that way is that your newish (I didn't call you a noob) and it's early game.In post 138, Pepchoninga wrote:
I'm sorry was your 3rd sentence directed to me, since I didn't really understand it.In post 135, Garmr wrote:
So you expect ground breaking work in rvs and I will work at my own pace. Honestly you haven't really done that much noteworthy either. Also dislike the way you framed my view pepchininga I was pointing to light behavior I didn't understand and tried to find a reasoning to it. I was hoping to see others reaction butIn post 128, Anotora wrote:So, Garmr was active in this thread for an hour and literally all he did was (jokingly or not) buddy up to Firebringer and comment on Pepchoninga's newbieness.
That's... not a great contribution on his part.
So far I have a town read on
firebringer
rc
grey is back to null with his recent behavior. His constant attacking seems kinda forced.
and to be honest My gut is not feeling frozen angel as well at the moment.-
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Thanks for getting us back on track. The fact that RadiantCowbells has ignored calls to double down on his miller counterclaim, is cause for action. Since ObviousAlt is here to play and doesn't seem anti-information as I worried she might, I'm going to move my vote to pressure RC.In post 137, Obvious Alt wrote:
Is this for real?In post 34, RadiantCowbells wrote:It's time for us to gloriously VOTE: Draw.
All aboard choo choo choo.
Also I cc miller so powerlynch Firebringer.
Super unlikely.In post 36, Firebringer wrote:
What if we are both miller? O_oIn post 34, RadiantCowbells wrote:It's time for us to gloriously VOTE: Draw.
All aboard choo choo choo.
Also I cc miller so powerlynch Firebringer.
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-Grey- and Garmr both use the same talking point(!) about RC's miller counterclaim. That is, "it can't be serious; if it was, then RC would have voted Firebringer."
But that's nonsense because RC did, in fact, vote Firebringer! Only four real-life minutes after posting the counterclaim! And RC's vote is still now on Firebringer!-
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I actually completely missed your post, so sorry about that. I am admittedly newer to the more competitive ,shaw I say, forum mafia, but me not going deep into anything at the time of you making that post and even now is due to the fact I'm still forming opinions and also I am waiting on everybody to come in and catch up to the couple pages of hit and miss arguments. This is still pretty early game and we do have 2 weeks so I see no reason to rush into any non well though wagons and fire accusations with no real evidence to back it up.In post 140, Garmr wrote:
Post 74 I comment How your post early game seem a little superficial not to deep with analysis. Two reasoning I give why it might be that way is that your newish (I didn't call you a noob) and it's early game.In post 138, Pepchoninga wrote:
I'm sorry was your 3rd sentence directed to me, since I didn't really understand it.In post 135, Garmr wrote:
So you expect ground breaking work in rvs and I will work at my own pace. Honestly you haven't really done that much noteworthy either. Also dislike the way you framed my view pepchininga I was pointing to light behavior I didn't understand and tried to find a reasoning to it. I was hoping to see others reaction butIn post 128, Anotora wrote:So, Garmr was active in this thread for an hour and literally all he did was (jokingly or not) buddy up to Firebringer and comment on Pepchoninga's newbieness.
That's... not a great contribution on his part.
So far I have a town read on
firebringer
rc
grey is back to null with his recent behavior. His constant attacking seems kinda forced.
and to be honest My gut is not feeling frozen angel as well at the moment.-
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Honestly, RCs vote seemed more RVSish then a serious one. But still we should wait for a resoonce from him.In post 142, Anotora wrote:-Grey- and Garmr both use the same talking point(!) about RC's miller counterclaim. That is, "it can't be serious; if it was, then RC would have voted Firebringer."
But that's nonsense because RC did, in fact, vote Firebringer! Only four real-life minutes after posting the counterclaim! And RC's vote is still now on Firebringer!-
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I like this answer I'm generally saying what's in my head at this time. Still through I do have a slight paranoia about you but I can't find anything to justify it.In post 143, Pepchoninga wrote:
I actually completely missed your post, so sorry about that. I am admittedly newer to the more competitive ,shaw I say, forum mafia, but me not going deep into anything at the time of you making that post and even now is due to the fact I'm still forming opinions and also I am waiting on everybody to come in and catch up to the couple pages of hit and miss arguments. This is still pretty early game and we do have 2 weeks so I see no reason to rush into any non well though wagons and fire accusations with no real evidence to back it up.In post 140, Garmr wrote:
Post 74 I comment How your post early game seem a little superficial not to deep with analysis. Two reasoning I give why it might be that way is that your newish (I didn't call you a noob) and it's early game.In post 138, Pepchoninga wrote:
I'm sorry was your 3rd sentence directed to me, since I didn't really understand it.In post 135, Garmr wrote:
So you expect ground breaking work in rvs and I will work at my own pace. Honestly you haven't really done that much noteworthy either. Also dislike the way you framed my view pepchininga I was pointing to light behavior I didn't understand and tried to find a reasoning to it. I was hoping to see others reaction butIn post 128, Anotora wrote:So, Garmr was active in this thread for an hour and literally all he did was (jokingly or not) buddy up to Firebringer and comment on Pepchoninga's newbieness.
That's... not a great contribution on his part.
So far I have a town read on
firebringer
rc
grey is back to null with his recent behavior. His constant attacking seems kinda forced.
and to be honest My gut is not feeling frozen angel as well at the moment.-
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Honestly I belive its normal to have a slight paranoia. This actually gives me a good slight town-read. We are early game and very little things may seem scummy. That's why I love having long days since it really helps you get beyond that paranoia and follow people's though process to get good reads and form strong arguments.In post 146, Garmr wrote:
I like this answer I'm generally saying what's in my head at this time. Still through I do have a slight paranoia about you but I can't find anything to justify it.In post 143, Pepchoninga wrote:
I actually completely missed your post, so sorry about that. I am admittedly newer to the more competitive ,shaw I say, forum mafia, but me not going deep into anything at the time of you making that post and even now is due to the fact I'm still forming opinions and also I am waiting on everybody to come in and catch up to the couple pages of hit and miss arguments. This is still pretty early game and we do have 2 weeks so I see no reason to rush into any non well though wagons and fire accusations with no real evidence to back it up.In post 140, Garmr wrote:
Post 74 I comment How your post early game seem a little superficial not to deep with analysis. Two reasoning I give why it might be that way is that your newish (I didn't call you a noob) and it's early game.In post 138, Pepchoninga wrote:
I'm sorry was your 3rd sentence directed to me, since I didn't really understand it.In post 135, Garmr wrote:
So you expect ground breaking work in rvs and I will work at my own pace. Honestly you haven't really done that much noteworthy either. Also dislike the way you framed my view pepchininga I was pointing to light behavior I didn't understand and tried to find a reasoning to it. I was hoping to see others reaction butIn post 128, Anotora wrote:So, Garmr was active in this thread for an hour and literally all he did was (jokingly or not) buddy up to Firebringer and comment on Pepchoninga's newbieness.
That's... not a great contribution on his part.
So far I have a town read on
firebringer
rc
grey is back to null with his recent behavior. His constant attacking seems kinda forced.
and to be honest My gut is not feeling frozen angel as well at the moment.-
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Of all the strawmen. How can you even come close to interpreting that, as if I said it was okay not to contribute in the early game?In post 139, Garmr wrote:
So it's ok early game to not say much ok.In post 112, Anotora wrote:
I mean, it was a reasonable thing for him to criticize, especially considering that was only page 1 and we didn't have a lot to go off of.In post 101, Frozen Angel wrote:and I mean I like to know what is your opinion about the fact that "he scum reads you for believing Not voting is a topic to be discussed later in day"
His actual reasoning to vote for me? I argued with it and won, which is why he took the vote off of me in the first place. As for my read on him, don't be disingenuous. I've made no bones about writing posts that sometimes criticize -Grey- and sometimes praise -Grey-.In post 139, Garmr wrote:
But grey has such good town read right you think his points on pepchoninga were good from his perspective. You don't seem fussed with his actual reasoning to vote you in the first place. Seems like your just attacking here for a possible vote.In post 115, Anotora wrote:It almost seems like you're rewarding me for townreading you, by taking your vote off of me and putting it back on Pepchoninga. That's the scummiest thing you've done so far.
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