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Post Post #450  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:19 am

Honestly I didn't understand much from the argument betweet Garmr and Angel. So if I don't completely understand something or say something that wasn't interpretated right, please correct me.

Really what I will say is Garmr has made some good posts. I've had experience with players asking too many questions but not doing anything with the information. It is (as I think was stated by somebody) the best way for scum to look productive and fit in with town. But honestly this is the only good point I find in her, that I fully understood from her posts and the conversation with Garmr.

One thing I agree with on Angel is that it is too early for us to be pushing for a real lynch. Applying pressure and pushing buttons to get reactions and from the get answer to create reads and opinions - yes. Going for a full on hammer is definitely something we should not.

Really tho, after reading there argument I cannot stop myself thinking it looks like a TvT scenario. Angel can't really explain her case on Garmr, but her reaction and posts just don't really seem scummy. (Maybe because she is a female and this is actually not helping me get her character) ((I mean is she a female?) Garmr has a good read in my mind and his activeness and overall wanting to scumhunt and go after his targets and create good cases is signs of good town. Tho I don't think his case was completely well polished or at least understandable.

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Post Post #451  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:19 am

In post 447, mlmooney89 wrote:I'm

You are not alone.
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Post Post #452  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:21 am

What happened with the quote :o

@Pep, yes she's a girl.
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Post Post #453  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:24 am

In post 449, keyenpeydee wrote:Okay so I've read the whole pages and skim read the 17th page because it's TL;DR and what I just know is that Anotora is so scummy af and he needs to be lynched. Idk why but when I started to read everything and FB claiming miller with RC counterclaiming I think is just a joke nor I don't think FB is a real miller. Anatora comes in and starts to type words words words which is boring to read since I disagree with that FB and RC case being serious. Gamer or whatever's case on Anotora is convincing enough to make me vote for him. I also am supportive of the Pep and Ano scum team but hesitant cauz the two looks like newbies.

This is what I understand all throughout the miserable adventure of forcing myself to read and procrastinating my homeworks. I also hate the games I cannot catch up. I'm also on the verge of being replaced but I don't want to be replaced.

I want a VC first before voting Anotora.

Awwww, stop with the newbie shit! Say I'm bad, but don't call me a newbie...Newbies are people with knowledge of the game. Not people who are learning the metas and overall ins and outs of the game...make a difference.

Sorry, got triggered :lol:

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Post Post #454  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:26 am

In post 452, keyenpeydee wrote:What happened with the quote :o

@Pep, yes she's a girl.

Honestly, I know this isn't professional, but sometimes the distinctive wau girls usually type (not counting everybody off course), just makes it harder for me to actually read them as anything bad or anything that is doing something wrong. Bummer tbh.

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Post Post #455  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:57 am

Oh yeah btw forgot to introduce myself.

Call me Keyen for short. KN is unacceptable. Key is okay if you want it shorter.
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Post Post #456  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:22 pm

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With 13 votes available, it takes 7 to lynch.

Anotora (L-2) - Garmr, Srceenplay, RadiantCowbells, -Grey-, Frozen Angel
Srceenplay (L-4) - Pepchoninga, Alisae, Firebringer
-Grey- (L-6) - Obvious Alt
Pepchoninga (L-6) - Anotora


Not Voting (3): mlmooney89, kentofan, keyenpeydee

Deadline: (expired on 2017-01-16 14:00:00)
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Post Post #457  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:25 pm

In post 379, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 368, Anotora wrote:Oh! Pepcho! You're right, I completely missed your chiming in on Srceenplay in #289.

Screenplay hasn't stayed for an actual disscussion so you can actually say "Yes, he is here, but he isn't contributing". Also this isn't exactly the Screenplay I know, but he might just not have anything to go for still.


You are completely unjustified in defending Srceenplay like this, and a post like this gives ground to suspect a Pepcho/Srceenplay scumteam.

Good theory but I'm just pointing out the obvious. Just as many players here know each other and how they play, I also know Srceenplay a bit, since I'm curently playing in another game with him. He either is a very bad scum or has other good explanation for his bad contribution to the game and sometime cocky responses.

Again, let's be VERY careful with our choice of words. Please don't refer to an ongoing game(s) for any reason besides activity (which also must be taken with extreme caution).

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Post Post #458  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:29 pm

In post 457, BigYoshiFan wrote:
In post 379, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 368, Anotora wrote:Oh! Pepcho! You're right, I completely missed your chiming in on Srceenplay in #289.

Screenplay hasn't stayed for an actual disscussion so you can actually say "Yes, he is here, but he isn't contributing". Also this isn't exactly the Screenplay I know, but he might just not have anything to go for still.


You are completely unjustified in defending Srceenplay like this, and a post like this gives ground to suspect a Pepcho/Srceenplay scumteam.

Good theory but I'm just pointing out the obvious. Just as many players here know each other and how they play, I also know Srceenplay a bit, since I'm curently playing in another game with him. He either is a very bad scum or has other good explanation for his bad contribution to the game and sometime cocky responses.

Again, let's be VERY careful with our choice of words. Please don't refer to an ongoing game(s) for any reason besides activity (which also must be taken with extreme caution).

Well I just said I'm playing a game with him. The other part was related to this game. Still, I will make sure to not reference any other game in the future ^^

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Post Post #459  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:31 pm

In post 353, Anotora wrote:- Contribution is limited beyond "I like you", "I don't like you".
"I like you" and "I don't like you" means "I think you're town." or "I like this post" and of course the other means "I hate this post" and "I don't like you."
Just FYI for someone who didn't understand cause that's what it seems like.
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Post Post #460  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:37 pm

In post 363, Pepchoninga wrote:Good post, with actual opinion. That's a first. I am active but I'm not really going ham for reasons already explained. I would like to wait for everybody to post there first posts, so I can get my reads up. You can't start a disscussion when there are people who haven't even gotten into the game. We have 2 weeks to form opinion and to execute our game plans. Why should I rush something like that? You know if I was scum I would I want long days? I might be newish, but I'm not stupid. I want to prevent fast and unnecessary wagons until we have everybody up and running. I am getting into discussions and provoking reactions. Please reread the situation of Grey, since if you take anything in those posts seriously I think you need a doctor. As I said, if I was serious for a second about the Grey slip I would've started making a case on him and ultimately going for a lynch. In the light of that I don't see how this argument is valid. Why is post #268 so bad? And no, I won't vote you for something so little. What you did is gave you a slight scum read but this doesn't mean I would lynch you. When I see a target I am sure about you will see me attacking with full strength. I belive that lynching people is not always a good thing. It is a way of pressuring and a way of starting/continuing/finishing the action of killing. But it's also a tool that if placed wrong could get you lynched without doing anything. I belive we should deduce what people do and have discussions about it and then starting to throw pressure lynches and straight up wagon lynches. My vote on Screenplay was a RVS vote and I also have commented on the Screenplay situation.
A. Why don't you just get your reads up now with what you currently have?
B. You can start a discussion with those currently in the game.
C. Shadethrow.
D. Attack someone will full strength. It's better then what you're currently doing.
E. In this case a lynch is better then a no lynch.
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Post Post #461  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:41 pm

In post 365, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 356, Anotora wrote:
In post 355, -Grey- wrote:
In post 353, Anotora wrote:Frozen Angel

+ Asks the right questions to move discussion forward


So?

What has she done with the answers to those questions?


Not much, which is why I have a null-ish read on her.

Why didn't you do straight up reads? Cuz this seems like a thing to blow the waters away.
And where are your reads again?
Not to mention people do reads differently.
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Post Post #462  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:43 pm

In post 379, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 368, Anotora wrote:Oh! Pepcho! You're right, I completely missed your chiming in on Srceenplay in #289.

Screenplay hasn't stayed for an actual disscussion so you can actually say "Yes, he is here, but he isn't contributing". Also this isn't exactly the Screenplay I know, but he might just not have anything to go for still.


You are completely unjustified in defending Srceenplay like this, and a post like this gives ground to suspect a Pepcho/Srceenplay scumteam.

Good theory but I'm just pointing out the obvious. Just as many players here know each other and how they play, I also know Srceenplay a bit, since I'm curently playing in another game with him. He either is a very bad scum or has other good explanation for his bad contribution to the game and sometime cocky responses.
Do you wanna know what would make your defence on him genuine? An unvote.
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Post Post #463  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:43 pm

In post 460, Alisae wrote:
In post 363, Pepchoninga wrote:Good post, with actual opinion. That's a first. I am active but I'm not really going ham for reasons already explained. I would like to wait for everybody to post there first posts, so I can get my reads up. You can't start a disscussion when there are people who haven't even gotten into the game. We have 2 weeks to form opinion and to execute our game plans. Why should I rush something like that? You know if I was scum I would I want long days? I might be newish, but I'm not stupid. I want to prevent fast and unnecessary wagons until we have everybody up and running. I am getting into discussions and provoking reactions. Please reread the situation of Grey, since if you take anything in those posts seriously I think you need a doctor. As I said, if I was serious for a second about the Grey slip I would've started making a case on him and ultimately going for a lynch. In the light of that I don't see how this argument is valid. Why is post #268 so bad? And no, I won't vote you for something so little. What you did is gave you a slight scum read but this doesn't mean I would lynch you. When I see a target I am sure about you will see me attacking with full strength. I belive that lynching people is not always a good thing. It is a way of pressuring and a way of starting/continuing/finishing the action of killing. But it's also a tool that if placed wrong could get you lynched without doing anything. I belive we should deduce what people do and have discussions about it and then starting to throw pressure lynches and straight up wagon lynches. My vote on Screenplay was a RVS vote and I also have commented on the Screenplay situation.
A. Why don't you just get your reads up now with what you currently have?
B. You can start a discussion with those currently in the game.
C. Shadethrow.
D. Attack someone will full strength. It's better then what you're currently doing.
E. In this case a lynch is better then a no lynch.

A: I will put up my reads shortly. I belive everybody has either catched up to the game is curently doing that.
B: I have done and if not I'm most certainly trying.
C: Don't see what is shaddy here. Care to elaborate?
D: I think you do know I'm more then capable and willing to attack with full strength. But I curently don't have suspects that are good enough for that, except maybe Ano. But still, I'm IN NO rush. 13 days is more then enough tho.
E: People tend to make arguments from lynches. Many times lynches that aren't thought out with good reasoning can get you a false lynch. I want to be certain in what I do.

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Post Post #464  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:45 pm

In post 384, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 382, Anotora wrote:Let me be perfectly clear, then, if you don't think I'm clear enough. I think Pepcho/Srceenplay are a scum team, and the third scum is either one of the inactives or a relatively skillful player we can't root out yet with the given information.

Great, we have a game solver...tbh, your recent posts seem to be very aggressive. Is it of frustration or because you are angry that your game plan didn't work? This isn't provocative or anything I'm just trying to see a reaction and an answer.
Um...You know gamesolving is a good thing. Right?
I'm starting to think all the other shit I saw earlier was fake.
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Post Post #465  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:46 pm

In post 463, Pepchoninga wrote:D: I think you do know I'm more then capable and willing to attack with full strength. But I curently don't have suspects that are good enough for that, except maybe Ano. But still, I'm IN NO rush. 13 days is more then enough tho.
E: People tend to make arguments from lynches. Many times lynches that aren't thought out with good reasoning can get you a false lynch. I want to be certain in what I do.


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Post Post #466  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:46 pm

In post 461, Alisae wrote:
In post 365, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 356, Anotora wrote:
In post 355, -Grey- wrote:
In post 353, Anotora wrote:Frozen Angel

+ Asks the right questions to move discussion forward


So?

What has she done with the answers to those questions?


Not much, which is why I have a null-ish read on her.

Why didn't you do straight up reads? Cuz this seems like a thing to blow the waters away.
And where are your reads again?
Not to mention people do reads differently.

Explained in last post. Reads will be given, when everybody has catched up.

And yes, this might be true, but he hasn't done reads. He is giving pluses and minuses but not explaining them, nor connecting them with his opinion of the players as a whole. Also we have found many inconsistencies with his "read" (if we can call them that as you suggest) and his previous posts.

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Post Post #467  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:47 pm

In post 416, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 311, Alisae wrote:
In post 308, RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't see any reason to scumread him. You are voting so you obviously do. Why is he scum?

Have my case
In post 188, Alisae wrote:I think I established that I really don't like Screenplay. All of their posts are mostly votes. None of them really have reasoning behind them.
I think it's moreso oppertunistic play coming from them.
Also they've done nothing to progress the game.
And they're basicly sheep.
VOTE: Screenplay

Don't all votes have reasoning and help progress the day?
Are all sheep scum?
Your votes don't.
Not all sheep are scum. But implying that I meant that all sheep are scum is a fallacy.
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Post Post #468  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:48 pm

In post 466, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 461, Alisae wrote:
In post 365, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 356, Anotora wrote:
In post 355, -Grey- wrote:
In post 353, Anotora wrote:Frozen Angel

+ Asks the right questions to move discussion forward


So?

What has she done with the answers to those questions?


Not much, which is why I have a null-ish read on her.

Why didn't you do straight up reads? Cuz this seems like a thing to blow the waters away.
And where are your reads again?
Not to mention people do reads differently.

Explained in last post. Reads will be given, when everybody has catched up.

And yes, this might be true, but he hasn't done reads. He is giving pluses and minuses but not explaining them, nor connecting them with his opinion of the players as a whole. Also we have found many inconsistencies with his "read" (if we can call them that as you suggest) and his previous posts.
No, fuck you. Do them now.
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Post Post #469  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:48 pm

In post 462, Alisae wrote:
In post 379, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 368, Anotora wrote:Oh! Pepcho! You're right, I completely missed your chiming in on Srceenplay in #289.

Screenplay hasn't stayed for an actual disscussion so you can actually say "Yes, he is here, but he isn't contributing". Also this isn't exactly the Screenplay I know, but he might just not have anything to go for still.


You are completely unjustified in defending Srceenplay like this, and a post like this gives ground to suspect a Pepcho/Srceenplay scumteam.

Good theory but I'm just pointing out the obvious. Just as many players here know each other and how they play, I also know Srceenplay a bit, since I'm curently playing in another game with him. He either is a very bad scum or has other good explanation for his bad contribution to the game and sometime cocky responses.
Do you wanna know what would make your defence on him genuine? An unvote.

I don Remember saying I defend him.

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Post Post #470  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:49 pm

In post 468, Alisae wrote:
In post 466, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 461, Alisae wrote:
In post 365, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 356, Anotora wrote:
In post 355, -Grey- wrote:
In post 353, Anotora wrote:Frozen Angel

+ Asks the right questions to move discussion forward


So?

What has she done with the answers to those questions?


Not much, which is why I have a null-ish read on her.

Why didn't you do straight up reads? Cuz this seems like a thing to blow the waters away.
And where are your reads again?
Not to mention people do reads differently.

Explained in last post. Reads will be given, when everybody has catched up.

And yes, this might be true, but he hasn't done reads. He is giving pluses and minuses but not explaining them, nor connecting them with his opinion of the players as a whole. Also we have found many inconsistencies with his "read" (if we can call them that as you suggest) and his previous posts.
No, fuck you. Do them now.

Ok, if you so wish - check my next post, since I want it to be clear.

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Post Post #471  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:50 pm

btw Frozen reads as if she's just getting into a TvT.
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Post Post #472  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:50 pm

A lot of TvTs.
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Post Post #473  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:55 pm

In post 463, Pepchoninga wrote:C: Don't see what is shaddy here. Care to elaborate?
D: I think you do know I'm more then capable and willing to attack with full strength. But I curently don't have suspects that are good enough for that, except maybe Ano. But still, I'm IN NO rush. 13 days is more then enough tho.
E: People tend to make arguments from lynches. Many times lynches that aren't thought out with good reasoning can get you a false lynch. I want to be certain in what I do.
C. No you are throwing shade at people. By telling someone to go see a doctor. You also threw shade at me with the "alidick" thing.
D. No I'm not lmao. Stop saying you'll fucking do it and actually do it. Unless your scum. If Ano is a suspect do it for Ano.
Let's also add if Ano is your only suspect you can make a case for, why isn't your vote on them?
If you're delaying yourself on purpose, and not voting someone who you think is your strongest scum case, then at this point you're just delaying the day.
E. IIoA. I'm pretty sure this whole stuff you've been saying is super fucking fake anyways because you said it a bit too much. You saying it once gave me a TR read. You saying it multiple times made that TR read go away.
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Post Post #474  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:55 pm

Possible Scum:
Anotora

Slight Scum lean:
Srceenplay

Null:
Obvious Alt, -Grey-, Frozen Angel, Radiant Cowbell, keyenpeydee

Null leaning Town:
Alisae, Firebringer

Town:
Garmr

If I have missed any active player, please tell me.

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