Mafia 73: NEGWLTWWWTKY - Abandoned!

[Sikario8]

Your opposition to this investigation, or mockery thereof, can be taken two ways. You can be genuinely upset that we're stuck on Quag and not hunting or you can be trying to preserve a scumbuddy. What if Quag's already looked at his role PM and what if you're his scumbuddy? Does this not imply that Quag won't change his playstyle and that, if we overlook him and you're his advocate, we'll consequently overlook you until you two NK everyone?

Why in the world

, if he was my scumbuddy,

would he be so obvious about it?

Your vote reeks of opportunism,

especially after you had just "cooled off."

•

What you believe to be obvious might not be obvious for everyone. Even still, obvious or not, whether he plays supergood or superbad, it's still scummy. I understand why you may want to fight my vote - I wouldn't want to be lynched either; however, he's wrong.

•

Cooled off? Surely if anyone had any worthwhile reason to vote for me, they'd

still be voting for me

. Do

you

have a case against me?

[Mastermind of Sin]

Sikario, why attack Has and not myself? I agree with Has's stance about Quagmire. Pursuing him today is NOT useful to the town in any way. This setup has

NO

incentive for Quagmire to pull a stunt like this as scum, so we'd only be getting lucky if he died and came up scum. Given that he has a much higher probability of being town than scum, we're taking a crapshoot in the dark here just because we don't like that he didn't read his role pm. It's a bullshit justification for people trying to push a bad wagon on Day 1. And you trying to set up a 1-2 lynch on Quag and Has doesn't make it any better.

[hasdgfas]

I say we lynch Quag and, once/if he turns up scum, we lynch has next; however, it's only a suggestion to the town.

Wow, setting up lynches now sikario? And then saying that it's only a suggestion. That is quite suspicious.

FoS: sikario

[Albert B. Rampage]

I say we lynch Quag and, once/if he turns up scum, we lynch has next; however, it's only a suggestion to the town.

Wow, setting up lynches now sikario? And then saying that it's only a suggestion. That is quite suspicious.

FoS: sikario

FoS: hasdgfas for OMGUS

[hasdgfas]

I think setting up lynches is more of a scumtell than OMGUS.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think setting up lynches is more of a scumtell than OMGUS.

Unvote, vote hasdgfas

Found your scum.

[hasdgfas]

I didn't even vote for sikario.

[Albert B. Rampage]

When Quag almost got lynched you tried to stop it because you knew he was town. Then you try to frame Sikario for 'trying to set up a lynch', which is BULLSHIT that you've constructed.

Sikario said we lynch whoever, because that person is scum. Whenever that person is proven scum and dead, we move on to lynch his scum-partner. Unless Sikario is bussing his partner Quagmire, the only person trying to set someone up is you.

Now die.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Sikario said we lynch Quagmire iirc, because that person is scum. Whenever Quagmire is proven scum and dead, we move on to lynch his hasdgfas (iirc). Unless Sikario is bussing his partner Quagmire, the only person trying to set someone up is you.

[Yosarian2]

Even if he read his role pm its not like he can backtrack and go after someone else now.

He wasted his day1 and our time

, now we lynch him.

•

Did anyone come up with a rebuttal for this?

...so, because we don't have any information on him based on his early game play, we should speedlynch him rather then, say, get him to contribute on other issues and gain information based on what he says NOW?

I'm thinking the best wagon for the moment is Toaster Strudel. She looks like over-eager scum to me.

unvote:MOS

vote:Toaster Strudel

[hasdgfas]

When Quag almost got lynched you tried to stop it because you knew he was town. Then you try to frame Sikario for 'trying to set up a lynch', which is BULLSHIT that you've constructed.

Sikario said we lynch Quagmire iirc, because that person is scum. Whenever Quagmire is proven scum and dead, we move on to lynch his hasdgfas (iirc). Unless Sikario is bussing his partner Quagmire, the only person trying to set someone up is you.

Now die.

No, I tried to stop it because it was a completely idiotic reason for lynching someone. And, in case you didn't notice, sikario

is

trying to set up a lynch. He said that we should lynch Quag and then me next if Quag comes up scum. That is 100% setting up a lynch. I'm not trying to "set someone up", I'm trying to scumhunt, which is hard when we're still stuck on quagmire and his role PM. Especially when people such as you and sikario will not give it up.

I'm not voting for sikario right now, because the only thing I have on him is trying to set up a chain-lynch and the fact that he won't get off of the Quagmire thing. I'm still on Peers because I still think he's scum based on what was said about 15 pages ago. If I see more suspicious stuff from sikario, I'll vote him, but right now, I don't want him lynched.

[Peers]

God help me, ABR is making perfect sense to me.

unvote

Vote: hasdgfas

[hasdgfas]

... damn this game. I... I agree with ABR... I have to go clean my brain out with bleach now...

God help me, ABR is making perfect sense to me.

unvote

Vote: hasdgfas

You seem to agree with ABR a lot when it keeps suspicion off of you.

[Sikario8]

So much BS, so little time..

Sikario, why attack Has and not myself? I agree with Has's stance about Quagmire.

Pursuing him today is NOT useful to the town in any way. This setup has

NO

incentive for Quagmire to pull a stunt like this as scum, so we'd only be getting lucky if he died and came up scum

. Given that he has a much higher probability of being town than scum, we're taking a crapshoot in the dark here just because we don't like that he didn't read his role pm. It's a bullshit justification for people trying to push a bad wagon on Day 1. And you trying to set up a 1-2 lynch on Quag and Has doesn't make it any better.

•

If this makes sense to you, then that's good and I appreciate your input, but it doesn't make sense to me; however, I don't think I'm still voting Quag cuz I stood down...I think. If I haven't, I'll go back and check.

I say we lynch Quag and, once/if he turns up scum, we lynch has next; however, it's only a suggestion to the town.

Wow, setting up lynches now sikario?

And then saying that it's only a suggestion.

That is quite suspicious.

FoS: sikario

•

I was going to comment on this, but ABR and Peers got to you first. How was I setting up lynches by making suggestions? No sarcasm here, but I'd appreciate if you'd help me out.

I think setting up lynches is more of a scumtell than OMGUS

.

•

Who told you that? Also: Setting up lynches...?

Even if he read his role pm its not like he can backtrack and go after someone else now.

He wasted his day1 and our time

, now we lynch him.

•

Did anyone come up with a rebuttal for this?

...so, because we don't have any information on him based on his early game play, we should speedlynch him rather then, say, get him to contribute on other issues and gain information based on what he says

NOW?

I'm thinking the best wagon for the moment is Toaster Strudel. She looks like over-eager scum to me.

unvote:MOS

vote:Toaster Strudel

•

That wasn't what I was trying to imply. I was asking if anyone capable of logic had a rebuttal because I was a bit rushed with reality and all.

When Quag almost got lynched you tried to stop it because you knew he was town. Then you try to frame Sikario for 'trying to set up a lynch', which is BULLSHIT that you've constructed.

Sikario said we lynch Quagmire iirc, because that person is scum. Whenever Quagmire is proven scum and dead, we move on to lynch his hasdgfas (iirc). Unless Sikario is bussing his partner Quagmire, the only person trying to set someone up is you.

Now die.

No, I tried to stop it because it was a completely idiotic reason for lynching someone. And, in case you didn't notice, sikario

is

trying to set up a lynch. He said that we should lynch Quag and then me next if Quag comes up scum. That is 100% setting up a lynch.

I'm not trying to "set someone up", I'm trying to scumhunt

, which is hard when we're still stuck on quagmire and his role PM.

Especially when people such as you and sikario will not give it up

.

I'm not voting for sikario right now, because

the only thing I have on him is trying to set up a chain-lynch

and the fact that he won't get off of the Quagmire thing. I'm still on Peers because I still think he's scum based on what was said about 15 pages ago. If I see more suspicious stuff from sikario, I'll vote him, but right now,

I don't want him lynched

.

•

What's the difference?

•

Won't give it up? I interacted with Quagmire concerning this and we came to a conclusion. Short, sweet, and to the point.

•

Yay!

... damn this game. I... I agree with ABR... I have to go clean my brain out with bleach now...

God help me, ABR is making perfect sense to me.

unvote

Vote: hasdgfas

You seem to agree with ABR a lot when it keeps suspicion off of you.

•

You seem to be lashing out left and right.

I

don't want to provoke you, I'm just saying that this is how you come off.

More later, I have to go to class...

[Peers]

You seem to agree with ABR a lot when it keeps suspicion off of you.

I know. This worries me greatly. Perhaps I can use it as an inverse scumdar -- if I agree with ABR, I'm playing wrong...

[Mastermind of Sin]

God help me, ABR is making perfect sense to me.

unvote

Vote: hasdgfas

FoS: Peers

ABR is making less sense than usual in this game.

Sikario, why attack Has and not myself? I agree with Has's stance about Quagmire.

Pursuing him today is NOT useful to the town in any way. This setup has

NO

incentive for Quagmire to pull a stunt like this as scum, so we'd only be getting lucky if he died and came up scum

. Given that he has a much higher probability of being town than scum, we're taking a crapshoot in the dark here just because we don't like that he didn't read his role pm. It's a bullshit justification for people trying to push a bad wagon on Day 1. And you trying to set up a 1-2 lynch on Quag and Has doesn't make it any better.

•

If this makes sense to you, then that's good and I appreciate your input, but it doesn't make sense to me; however, I don't think I'm still voting Quag cuz I stood down...I think. If I haven't, I'll go back and check.

If that statement doesn't make sense to you, clearly you believe that Quagmire has something to gain by doing this as scum. What do you believe Quagmire, if he's scum, is trying to accomplish by claiming not to have read his role pm on Day 1?

[hasdgfas]

I say we lynch Quag and, once/if he turns up scum, we lynch has next; however, it's only a suggestion to the town.

Wow, setting up lynches now sikario?

And then saying that it's only a suggestion.

That is quite suspicious.

FoS: sikario

•

I was going to comment on this, but ABR and Peers got to you first. How was I setting up lynches by making suggestions? No sarcasm here, but I'd appreciate if you'd help me out.

When you say that we should lynch someone based on how something else turns out, that is called setting up a chain-lynch, and it's not a good thing. It's something scum often do to try to get the town to follow their logic and lynch more townies. They usually happen based on bad logic as in, "if one person is scum, this other person must be as well." Can you see now what I was seeing? If not, I'm sure someone with more experience can explain to you better what I'm talking about.

I think setting up lynches is more of a scumtell than OMGUS

.

•

Who told you that? Also: Setting up lynches...?

That didn't come out right. It was supposed to be that setting up a chain-lynch is a scumtell, and so is OMGUS. But both of them have problems with using them.

When Quag almost got lynched you tried to stop it because you knew he was town. Then you try to frame Sikario for 'trying to set up a lynch', which is BULLSHIT that you've constructed.

Sikario said we lynch Quagmire iirc, because that person is scum. Whenever Quagmire is proven scum and dead, we move on to lynch his hasdgfas (iirc). Unless Sikario is bussing his partner Quagmire, the only person trying to set someone up is you.

Now die.

No, I tried to stop it because it was a completely idiotic reason for lynching someone. And, in case you didn't notice, sikario

is

trying to set up a lynch. He said that we should lynch Quag and then me next if Quag comes up scum. That is 100% setting up a lynch.

I'm not trying to "set someone up", I'm trying to scumhunt

, which is hard when we're still stuck on quagmire and his role PM.

Especially when people such as you and sikario will not give it up

.

I'm not voting for sikario right now, because

the only thing I have on him is trying to set up a chain-lynch

and the fact that he won't get off of the Quagmire thing. I'm still on Peers because I still think he's scum based on what was said about 15 pages ago. If I see more suspicious stuff from sikario, I'll vote him, but right now,

I don't want him lynched

.

•

What's the difference?

•

Won't give it up? I interacted with Quagmire concerning this and we came to a conclusion. Short, sweet, and to the point.

•

Yay!

Scumhunting is completely different than "setting someone up" or suggesting a chain lynch. Scumhunting is using evidence found from what someone has said to prove them as scum. Setting up a chain lynch is using evidence from someone else to prove them as scum, it's completely different.

... damn this game. I... I agree with ABR... I have to go clean my brain out with bleach now...

God help me, ABR is making perfect sense to me.

unvote

Vote: hasdgfas

You seem to agree with ABR a lot when it keeps suspicion off of you.

•

You seem to be lashing out left and right.

I

don't want to provoke you, I'm just saying that this is how you come off.

More later, I have to go to class...

Um, lashing out? I was making a comment about how Peers seems to follow ABR whenever he changes wagons to someone other than him, possibly so that he can prevent the suspicion from coming back onto him. I'm still voting for Peers because I still find him most suspicious. Right now, I'm looking for ways to show that, and that comment was one of them.

[Sikario8]

God help me, ABR is making perfect sense to me.

unvote

Vote: hasdgfas

FoS: Peers

ABR is making less sense than usual in this game.

Sikario, why attack Has and not myself? I agree with Has's stance about Quagmire.

Pursuing him today is NOT useful to the town in any way. This setup has

NO

incentive for Quagmire to pull a stunt like this as scum, so we'd only be getting lucky if he died and came up scum

. Given that he has a much higher probability of being town than scum, we're taking a crapshoot in the dark here just because we don't like that he didn't read his role pm. It's a bullshit justification for people trying to push a bad wagon on Day 1. And you trying to set up a 1-2 lynch on Quag and Has doesn't make it any better.

•

If this makes sense to you, then that's good and I appreciate your input, but it doesn't make sense to me; however, I don't think I'm still voting Quag cuz I stood down...I think. If I haven't, I'll go back and check.

If that statement doesn't make sense to you, clearly you believe that Quagmire has something to gain by doing this as scum

. What do you believe Quagmire, if he's scum, is trying to accomplish by claiming not to have read his role pm on Day 1?

•

Not necessarily true; however, this may be so because of my wording. I don't know anything about Quag or his thought processes, so it's harder for me to try and discern his methods; therefore, I'll admit my mental defeat and relinquish my hold on it in order to allow someone more competent to input their opinion, i.e. you.

I say we lynch Quag and, once/if he turns up scum, we lynch has next; however, it's only a suggestion to the town.

Wow, setting up lynches now sikario?

And then saying that it's only a suggestion.

That is quite suspicious.

FoS: sikario

•

I was going to comment on this, but ABR and Peers got to you first. How was I setting up lynches by making suggestions? No sarcasm here, but I'd appreciate if you'd help me out.

When you say that we should lynch someone based on how something else turns out, that is called setting up a chain-lynch, and it's not a good thing. It's something scum often do to try to get the town to follow their logic and lynch more townies. They usually happen based on bad logic as in, "if one person is scum, this other person must be as well." Can you see now what I was seeing? If not, I'm sure someone with more experience can explain to you better what I'm talking about.

I think setting up lynches is more of a scumtell than OMGUS

.

•

Who told you that? Also: Setting up lynches...?

That didn't come out right. It was supposed to be that setting up a chain-lynch is a scumtell, and so is OMGUS. But both of them have problems with using them.

When Quag almost got lynched you tried to stop it because you knew he was town. Then you try to frame Sikario for 'trying to set up a lynch', which is BULLSHIT that you've constructed.

Sikario said we lynch Quagmire iirc, because that person is scum. Whenever Quagmire is proven scum and dead, we move on to lynch his hasdgfas (iirc). Unless Sikario is bussing his partner Quagmire, the only person trying to set someone up is you.

Now die.

No, I tried to stop it because it was a completely idiotic reason for lynching someone. And, in case you didn't notice, sikario

is

trying to set up a lynch. He said that we should lynch Quag and then me next if Quag comes up scum. That is 100% setting up a lynch.

I'm not trying to "set someone up", I'm trying to scumhunt

, which is hard when we're still stuck on quagmire and his role PM.

Especially when people such as you and sikario will not give it up

.

I'm not voting for sikario right now, because

the only thing I have on him is trying to set up a chain-lynch

and the fact that he won't get off of the Quagmire thing. I'm still on Peers because I still think he's scum based on what was said about 15 pages ago. If I see more suspicious stuff from sikario, I'll vote him, but right now,

I don't want him lynched

.

•

What's the difference?

•

Won't give it up? I interacted with Quagmire concerning this and we came to a conclusion. Short, sweet, and to the point.

•

Yay!

Scumhunting is completely different than "setting someone up" or suggesting a chain lynch. Scumhunting is using evidence found from what someone has said to prove them as scum. Setting up a chain lynch is using evidence from someone else to prove them as scum, it's completely different.

... damn this game. I... I agree with ABR... I have to go clean my brain out with bleach now...

God help me, ABR is making perfect sense to me.

unvote

Vote: hasdgfas

You seem to agree with ABR a lot when it keeps suspicion off of you.

•

You seem to be lashing out left and right.

I

don't want to provoke you, I'm just saying that this is how you come off.

More later, I have to go to class...

Um, lashing out? I was making a comment about how Peers seems to follow ABR

whenever he changes wagons to someone other than him, possibly so that he can prevent the suspicion from coming back onto him. I'm still voting for Peers because I still find him most suspicious. Right now, I'm looking for ways to show that, and that comment was one of them.

•

Sorry - once again, a bit rushed. What I meant was that there's been alot of attacks and comments in regards to you and by "lashing out" I meant that you're having to defend yourself frequently. That's all.

I'm trying to get to some analysis, but I wanted to respond to your questions and comments first, so I'll get to it as soon as possible. Sry.

[Peers]

.... all the color-coded quotes are hurting my brain, people. Simplify, simplify, simplify...

[Battle Mage]

Mod- Votecount much?

[PJ.]

.... all the color-coded quotes are hurting my brain, people. Simplify, simplify, simplify...

[Sikario8]

pssst!

.... all the color-coded quotes are hurting my brain, people. Simplify, simplify, simplify...

pass it on!

[Albert B. Rampage]

.... all the color-coded quotes are hurting my brain, people. Simplify, simplify, simplify...

[Albert B. Rampage]

Nobody's going to read all that crap, so tell us when you find the scum, k ?

[Battle Mage]

^QFT. Where am i here?